Tragedy in Peachtree City

My Deepest sympathy goes out to the family of the young man that died over a senseless murder. people need to put up their guns and lock them up.guns need to be wiped off the face of the earth. and for the person that sent in a comment about not having sympathy for every one involved. I think you are a senseless, heartless and uncaring nut. What if it had been some of your relatives that was killed. The only thing you are worrying about is what barrier its has on Peachtree City and how it look to the community.Smells like prejudice to me. Have a heart because what you reap is what you sow.

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fancypants's picture
Submitted by fancypants on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 8:22am.

as people are!

Dangerous people owning/operating/driving/shooting/holding dangerous things is only asking for trouble.


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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 11:04am.

They were intentionally made that way. They were made to create large holes in human and animal flesh. This can be dangerous to yourself or an animal if one gets in the way of a piece of metal flying through the air at zillion miles an hour. Guns as you call them (I call them weapons)are "tools" used to create massive damage to the flesh for reasons of killing your target. Weapons are not used to wound somebody in the foot so you can overtake them and put them in jail and make them behave from that point on. Very few are that good of a shot. They are tools designed to kill their intended target.

If you possess a weapon it is highly advised that you know what you are doing with it and you understand the proper operation of such. You MUST know and understand the dangers of said tool and know how to safely handle and use your weapon. It must be fully understood that a weapon is not a toy. It is not designed to stick down your pants to give yourself whatever gratification you are seeking. Do not play with weapons. If you want to play with something then reach in your pants and play with the gun you are equipped with. Your personal gun that you were issued at birth shouldn't hurt anyone unless you point it at or use it on someone else. The only person you should use your gun on is yourself or your spouse who often times doesn't like it when you pull your gun out.

Ok...Now back to the weapons. Law abiding citizens should own a weapon and be willing to use it if trained properly. If you are a pansy man or woman and quiver at the mention of a weapon it is advised that you not own a weapon and you need to trust the rest of society for your protection. Perhaps playing with your gun would better suit you. The rest of us need to be trained on how our weapon operates and how to use it. It is a tool that we each should pray we never have to be put in a situation that we feel we have to use it. For you see...a properly trained weapons owner will not use it to threaten anyone with nor will they use it as a sex object to pose for provocative pictures. Nor will we pull our weapons out to show what a badass we are. When we pull our weapons out they are used to perform a task. Remember, our weapon is a tool and we use it to complete a job. That job you ask??? Let's just say you try entering my house to assault my family. I will pull my weapon and without hesitation I am going to blow as many holes in your flesh as I can to keep you from raping and killing my family. Rest assured we will not discuss make or model and we will not compare weapons nor will we debate whether I should be using it against you in the first place. My dangerous tool will be used to complete its proper and intended use. To protect myself, my family, my friends, and my community from pieces of S*&T that get doped up and steal, rape and murder with no respect for anyone elses well being other than to satisy themselves.

So....fancypants....you can safely call me a dangerous person. That I am if one were to attempt to harm me or anyone else I have a responsibility to look out for. And no...you would never know that I have a carry permit not would you know where my weapons are safely kept. I do not take them out for show nor do I advertise that I am a weapons owner. This helps to protect someone like you who chooses not to defend yourself in an emergency situation. For you see...the bad guys are scared because they can't tell the difference between you or I.

By the way Fancypants. You have the coolest golf cart around. Is it as bad as it looks? You ought to mount a gun rack in the back and put a toy gun in it. Tim the Toolman would be proud. Come to think of it...he is a perfect example of someone who should not possess a weapon.


Submitted by Vernon on Fri, 06/23/2006 - 2:08pm.

AMEN

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 11:39am.

Suggestion:

I had a Maryland State Trooper tell me this a long time ago.

One idea you may want to consider is to have a small, 5-10 lbs., dry-chem fire extinguisher near your bedside rather than a gun.

If the noise you here in the middle of the night is little Johnny going to do his business and you spray him with it, the only thing you have to do is pick him up, dust him off and vacuum. If it’s NOT little Johnny and you spray him with it several things will happen vary fast.

1. He/she wont be able to breath. (no air in, no screams out)
2. He/she wont be able to see. (don’t have problem so far)
3. Now it's piñata time.

One problem with discharging a gun in a house, as i'm sure you know, is that the bullet often will not be happy staying inside to play if you miss. Secondly, there’s no take-backs.


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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 1:39pm.

So what your saying Bad_PTC is that after the act of self defense takes place and the tool has done its' job then we spray them down with a dry-chem fire extinguisher followed by a severe beating with a ball bat while pretending he is really a pinata. I like it. Good thinking.

Actually thanks for the suggestion. My bride is not trained to use a firearm so I will teach this one to her and my daughters. As far as shooting my kids. That risk will be minimal as I am not trigger happy. The biggest concern is first stopping the predator.


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Submitted by PTC Guy on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 2:22pm.

In communities where decent, law abiding citizens are known to own a lot of guns, crime goes down.

Why? Criminals feel safer moving on to communities with tons of gun control laws and aversions.

Criminals like safe and easy pickings.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 6:00am.

If I were to follow your way of thinking than cars would be the first thing we should get rid of in this country.

The second thing we would get rid of is alcohol.

I would rather have people give up not taking responsibility for their actions.

If you’re one of those that think the tragic events of the other night was a “wake-up call”, don’t bother. You’ve obviously been asleep at the switch way tool long to do anybody any good by being awake and in the way now.

For all of those parents that want to blame other parents for our problems, STOP! The only thing you’re going to be able to do teach your own kids the values they will need to succeed in this world. Bitching about the behavior of someone else’s kids accomplishes nothing.

Maybe some of you parents should go back to school and take some basic business courses. How about instead of playing “Point the finger” and/or “Let’s find someone to blame”, you try to learn form it. In business, as in life, the greatest advantage you can have is to figure out how to get past an obstacle and prevent it from getting in your way again. Be part of the solution, anything else is just in the way.


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Submitted by kohesion on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 6:45am.

I love it when people say that "guns don't kill people, people kill people" Thank God (with your permission PTCGuy) for simplistic truisms that can be easily regurgitated preventing us from actually thinking.

You are right, we should ban cars, in town anyway. Some American cities have already banned cars in the downtown areas (or have plans to). GA would be the last state to do anything as intelligent as that.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 7:17am.

I take it from you lack of spew that you don’t disagree that my comment of “Be part of the solution, anything else is just in the way”, and of course it’s okay with you if we keep the alcohol.

And yes, some cities have taken the step to ban cars from the downtown areas; as a means of cleaning the air not because they wanted to lower the fatality rate from car accidents.

One of the most common misconceptions about firearms in general is that they in and of them selves are dangerous. That’s pure B.S. A car, in and of itself, is not dangerous. Having someone operating it that has not been trained to do so is dangerous/stupid. Why would anyone think a firearm should not be treated the same way?

To really light your fuse: Yes I have several firearms. Yes I have a concealed weapons permit. Yes I do carry one with me most of the time. Yes it’s loaded and yes it’s powerful enough to stop a Chevy Suburban dead in it’s tracks. My nineteen year daughter has one as well. She also knows how to use it vary well too. Finally, oh yes, please try and steal my golfcart, please! (just kidding)

I also have had my children take and complete gun safety courses. The first thing I taught my wife and kids about guns was how to safely determine if the safety’s on and check to see if it’s loaded. Basic gun safety says that ALL guns are loaded until you can prove it isn’t.

As I have often seen in many of the blogs' here and in life in general, it’s the uneducated that are dangerous. They tend to make rash, unwise and not vary well thought-out decisions in most of their daily lives. The rest of us have to watch out for them.


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Submitted by kohesion on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 7:23am.

Uh.. I have a gun to. Your guns aren't going to light my fuse. I don't carry it on my person, that is just silly, especially in PTC. Guns should be used for hunting animals, not people.

So guns aren't dangerous eh? That's funny, the first thing they teach you in a gun safety class (or in drivers ed) is that guns (and cars) are dangerous weapons and should be treated with respect. Sounds like you need to retake both classes.

Sorry, wrong again.. I would be willing to give up alcohol and cars (which I already have BTW) if you would be willing to give up your hand guns.


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Submitted by PTC Guy on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 8:08am.

I have never seen a gun jump off a shelf and shoot someone.

Knives are dangerous. So get rid of them.

Deep water is dangerous. Drain it.

Ladders are dangerous. Ban them.

Liberals accuse people of not thinking when they do not agree with their illogical ramblings. But it is they who lack logic in the examination.

There was death and violence long before guns were invented. Banning guns will do nothing to change the fact some people will find a way to harm others.

Check the complete issues. You will find guns are accredited with saving more lives and stopping more violence than they are used to commit.

Now, launch into your diatribe.

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Submitted by kohesion on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 8:14am.

You have already made my point for me. You have simplified the argument to dangerous or not dangerous rather than levels of danger.

This was my whole point that saying "guns don't kill people" is a simplistic truism that discourages any rational thought on the subject.

I knew you would come through for me. You have a simplistic view on most everything. Thanks for supporting my argument.


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Submitted by PTC Guy on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 8:43am.

All that is proven is your shallow thinking.

I was certified and taught gun safety and use. And coached competitive shooting.

Safety was course one. Use course two.

Many people try to go to course two not having had course one.

The issue is not that guns kill, they do not. They issue is too many people are not qualified to properly use them.

A fool climbs in a car and drives without training. Same applies to gun use.

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