PTC party murder suspect remains jailed; party host arrested

Wed, 06/21/2006 - 5:38pm
By: John Munford

A Sharpsburg teen accused of murdering his friend at an early morning party Tuesday in Peachtree City will remain in jail without bond, and the Peachtree City teen who hosted the party has been charged with several misdemeanors, police said.

Kevin Johnston, 17, of HiLo Park Drive faces a felony murder charge and four misdemeanors relating to the death of Dallas Crenshaw, 18, of Pinegate Road in Peachtree City. Crenshaw was shot and fatally wounded at the party with a gun that Johnston brought to the house in the Centennial subdivision, police said.

The teen who apparently hosted the party, Christopher Canderozzi, 18, of 415 Constitution Circle, Peachtree City, was charged Tuesday with reckless conduct and possession of marijuana (less than one ounce), police said. There were "multiple minors" at the party and evidence was found of marijuana being smoked "throughout the home" and also alcohol being consumed at the party, police said.

Canderozzi's parents were not at home at the time of the party, police said.

Although the investigation has led so far to substantiating the murder charges against Johnston, Assistant District Attorney Al Dixon said that could change in the future if other information comes forward.

A Superior Court judge will determine whether to set bond for Johnston at a later hearing, but Magistrate Bob Ruppenthal declined to set bond for Johnston's misdemeanor counts, which also moves that decision to Superior Court.

Crenshaw died of a gunshot wound to the abdomen while doctors performed emergency surgery on him in an attempt to save his life, said Police Chief James Murray.

The shooting occurred around 3:20 a.m. at a party with up to 12 or more teens present with "a lot of alcohol," Murray said.

Johnston had driven Crenshaw to the party, and Johnston brought along the 9mm handgun. The pistol was found hidden under a tree behind the home following the shooting, Murray said.

The shooting occurred at 415 Constitution Circle, an area of newer homes in the $300,000-plus value range.

It is not clear exactly what happened in the seconds before the shooting, as several witnesses told police that earlier in the party, Johnston and others were seen “playing” with the gun, Murray said.

Johnston may not be the only one in trouble, Murray indicated. Several teens at the party initially told police that someone entered the home, shot Crenshaw and left.

“We were misled when we got there,” Murray said.

Detectives were able to speak with Crenshaw while he was being treated initially by Peachtree City medics, dispelling the initial account, Murray said.

Police are also looking into whether the shooting was reported to 911 immediately.

“We’re looking to see if there is any lag time between the shooting and calling 911,” Murray said.

Murray said the case was troubling because of what led to the shooting. Police found “a lot” of alcohol and some suspected drugs at the home, though Murray declined to identify the drugs found pending forensic tests.

“Any time that you have teens, alcohol and drugs together at the same time, it’s a recipe for disaster,” Murray said. “And that’s what we have here: a disaster.”

Murray said the number of teens at the party ranged between eight and 12, and many other details about what happened at the scene were still unfolding Tuesday afternoon. Detectives were interviewing several teens who were at the party and working to identify and contact several others who were at the party and left immediately after the shooting.

“Witnesses told us they heard the bang,” from the shot, Murray said.

It is not clear how Johnston got the weapon, but police will check the gun’s history through federal records, Murray said. Police will be able to determine where it was purchased and who has owned the gun since then, Murray added.

Meanwhile, the investigation will continue for some time, with several detectives working the case, Murray said.

“We want to make sure whoever did this is brought to justice,” Murray said.

The other charges filed against Johnston are misdemeanors: possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime, possession of a firearm by a person under 18 years old, carrying a concealed weapon and possession of marijuana (less than one ounce).

The Canderozzi home is in the Centennial subdivision, one of Peachtree City’s newest, and new homes are being built in the area.

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Submitted by sugajaer on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 9:35am.

Although, the young man that left the last blog has a valid point about who he is as a person. I am 35 years old and I have been in PTC since 1977. And nothing has changed. We waited on parents to go out of town then to party, just like they do now. The "rocks" was a wonderful party place because the police cruisers couldn't get down there. I pay much attention to my son's (14 & 11)and daughter (6) and what he does because I know what this town offers it kids and it terrifies me because we as people are no match for drugs and alcohol, especially once it has been introduced. I know their friends and I have a great relationship with them and I warn them about life in Peachtree City as a kid and what can happen if you fall into the temptations (i discuss that with the older kids). I don't believe a kid deserves a mercedes or a porche when they turn 16, that if freaking stupid. I think they need to work for what they get. Alot of my generation have had to seek help for the addictions they have because of the party mentality here in peachtree city. We used to party with the grown ups too. I mean, it happens anywhere and everywhere. The football team used to snort big ole lines of cocaine before the games. I grew up here so I partied with the freaks, jocks, rednecks, every social group there was and the main goal in each group was to get as waisted as possible.and we did..and we drove. and we drove golf carts and took the ones with keys left in them. And that my friend was the highlight of our teenage years because the only reason you should really move to peachtree city is to retire. Love my home town NOW! Because I am not that young anymore and I don't mind chilling everyday after work but these kids get bored for some reason maybe because they are exposed to so much these days. Like all the fun stuff that costs an arm and a leg to do. Gymnastics in this town is $200 and up, Cheerleading in this town is $200, Football in this town $ way over 200..same as baseball. If you want your kids to be involved in some positive things and you aren't part of the jones revolution then you will have to take out a second mortgage on your home, have a yard sale and sell all of your belongings or wait for tax time to get your kids into any positive activities. I am glad the young guy is so accomplished in what he is doing but the reality is that not all teenagers are that motivated or strong minded. The reality is that, it is the parents responsibility to get in their kids face everyday and ask them how they feel, are they ok, has anyone approached them trying to give them some dope or alcohol, and not live with their heads in the ground thinking "my child would NEVER do thaaaat". Reality...yes they would and will if you just let them raise themselves. I probably drive my kids nuts but they respect me because I don't lie to them about reality. They are well informed what lies ahead of them if they chose to get high or drunk. Heck, drive your kids to Atlanta, Ponce De Leon, Peachtree Street, make them volunteer in a homeless shelter..feed the homeless because those folks did not start off homeless or drunks. Love my hometown but being a teenager was quite difficult at times.

Submitted by concerned teen ptc on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 7:31pm.

So today I hear from my mom that a kid in our area had died recently. I get on my computer to check it out on the news, and I find out that there is this society of "bloggers" that for some reason hate peachtree city, its kids, and pretty much everything about it. [Of those family members some are "TEENAGERS" Key word: TEENAGERS (or could also be known as “SPOILED BRATS”).]-veryveryconcerned...what is THAT supposed to mean? I get online to find out about a tragedy for which i show concern and I find out that I am a spoiled brat. I did a little more reading and found that any time something bad happens in peachtree city, some {{{{{{EDITED}}}}}} has to get on a blog and start a whole bunch of crap about how the parents have too much money and they dont spend time with their kids. and who are the "jones's"? and what is this about parents not wearing pants veryveryconcerned? maybe its you who should re-evaluate your family if there are members that dont wear pants. Maybe someone should knock some sense into YOUR head. everyone in my household wears pants thank you very much.

Peachtree city kids are all the time being honored for their achievements in school and sports. McIntosh soccer makes it to the finals almost every year. Booth science Olympiad wins national championships on a regular basis(an accomplishment I am personally proud of). we have one of the best school systems in the state. so why is it that when ONE thing happens involving a FEW kids, the entire generation is steriotyped? yes, it is a tragedy, but turn on the news any night of the week and there is a shooting in decalb or fulton, EVERY NIGHT. This happens when a golfcart is stolen too.
A. there are bad kids wherever you go.
B. if the worst crime you have to worry about in a town is a couple of kids stealing a vehicle that goes maybe 18 MPH every once in a while, and a drug related crime every once in a while, that's not that bad. Stop whining.
C. its not like these things happen that often, I'm not saying that it isnt a tragedy or that it shouldnt be prevented, but the cases are rare.

Where are all these parents that sit at home and read their kids' MYSPACE pages? what does that accomplish? so you read the little surveys that ask kids questions like if they have done drugs? just because they put it doesnt mean its true. you have no proof. they could very well be lying to be funny. honestly, if you committed a crime, would you post it on the internet at one of the most visited sites in the country, one that the police look on frequently? NO. so stop reading myspace and go spend time with your kids.

I do agree with there being nothing to do here. Unless you know some kids that have a pool or something, you're pretty much screwed until you get a car so you can drive 30 minutes to go so something fun. I mean come on, there is no theater, no entertainment places. what? go to the avenue? OK, so i get some coffee and shop for clothes. I'll have to give props to Xplayground though for trying, but that's ONE place, and it gets old after a while.

"PTC kids have nothing to do?!? OH PLEASE! I'll give them something to do. I'd make them turn the TV off and start a garden in the backyard. That'll keep them busy all summer."-WHAT? how old are you? since when is a garden fun to do? and i thought we were being accused of doing drugs and lying to our parents...i didnt know we were lazy couch potatoes too.

So apparently I am a lazy, lying, spoiled brat and my parents are trying to keep up with the jones's by working overtime to buy me brand name clothes, and somehow this makes me do drugs. even though I am a straight A student, involved with the youth group, and am currently working on my eagle scout project, all while taking as much time as I can to learn all I can about this new game lacrosse that I just joined.

I don't have a MYSPACE, I have never used drugs, and have never had alcohol (with the exception of the occasional sip of my parent's champagne at new the new year's party that we always go to ( which includes my parents along with my freinds). And I am trained in gun safety/awareness through the Boy Scouts of America.

So stop whining about us. Not is it insulting to myself, my family, and my freinds, but it just isnt true. maybe you would know that if you LIVED here, or SPENT TIME with your kids.

Submitted by skyspy on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 7:35am.

You have it all here; thats the problem you kids have too many choices of things to do.

golf, tennis, swimming(you don't have to wait for a friend to invite you, Kedron pool is nice and open all the time) work out at the gym; take an online class and learn something new(oooppps sooorry I lost my head again) cycling rollerblading, walking, running, take the dog to the dog park and meet new people, reading(oooppps I am out of touch) get a summer job so you can save money for college, help your parents with chores around the house(ok I know I should be jailed for that one sooorrry)
I am sure some of your friends have a car they can take you to the movies. Take a class at the Kedron Field house they have many different classes in fun things art,music,photography,etc. Volunteer for a cause you believe in ie: homeless pets, people the elderly,meals on wheels.
You say you have had a gun safety class why not join the 4-H gun club they win almost every competition they enter.

We do have many good kids here. Maybe Cal could start to set a page or two aside to highlight the good kids, I would love to hear the good stories and the good kids need to be recognized.( with more than just a paragraph or two)

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Submitted by John Munford on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 8:44am.

There's no word limit on our blogs that I know of and you can have multiple postings. And there's plenty of recognition of outstanding kids already in our print edition. A photo of an Eagle Scout just ran across my desk, and I don't usually handle that stuff.

See our "Names and Faces" section in the Wednesday papers.


Submitted by skyspy on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 1:25pm.

I would like you to interview them like celebrities. The bad kids from Tuesday morning are getting too much attention(and that is what they wanted; that was the whole reason for the stunt they pulled) I want you to give the good kids recognition ten times what those criminals are getting. Interview them and their parents, make the feel important. The good kids ONLY are our future. Lets give them a small reward for being good.(I guess the bad kids are our furture too, but sadly they are my future tax dollar being wasted in federal prison).

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Submitted by fancypants on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 7:49am.

"Maybe Cal could start to set a page or two aside to highlight the good kids, I would love to hear the good stories and the good kids need to be recognized.( with more than just a paragraph or two)"

That is the best idea yet in all these posts!


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Submitted by kohesion on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 12:02am.

Dang, your posting was so long I just resorted to skimming.

Whatever punk, gardening is crazy fun. You have been living in PTC too long. Alot of people are getting into urban gardening (maybe not around here). It is still a pretty small movement but seems poised to grow.

Nope, I'm not that old buddy, still in my 20's. Maybe you should try organic gardening before you knock it.


Submitted by concerned teen ptc on Fri, 06/23/2006 - 12:02am.

sounds exciting.

Submitted by supergrover1687 on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 11:09pm.

Listen I understand you. I just graduated from McIntosh, so what goes on there is still fresh on my mind.
I too like you have never drunk, done drugs, had sex or participated in any other illegal activity. And I applaud you for your choices, but you are among a VERY SMALL MINORITY of kids.
Like I've said before the kids here aren't all that they seem.
You can't base how good people are on what grades they get or how well they play games. Here's the thing I garuntee that a good majority of the top precent of my class either got drunk or did drugs at one point.
I mean I had a kid sitting in class talking about how smashed they get that they wake up somewhere completely different. And this was a top athlete.
I don't know, I just seemed to get a vibe from you that you might be younger, not in highschool. And if that's so, you are about to enter a whole new world. And if you are in Highschool, you are just niaeve.

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Submitted by fancypants on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 7:44am.

I'm sorry for concerned teen ptc taking all this comments personally and feeling they were directed at him (assuming he is a boy, since he talked about BSoA). I commend him on his good choices and hope he will continue to make the right choices. It also certainly sounds like his parents are involved in his life and guide him along to becoming a responsible adult. Thanks for your comments, concerned teen ptc!

I have to agree with supergrover though, I feel the same way. The good kids are in the minority and yes, it is getting worse. It's is because we are becoming increasingly numb to the bad things in this world, that a kid who does/did drugs, drings underage and occasionally gets in trouble with the law is now considered a "good kid"!

An no, this is not something happening only in PTC, or Fayette County, it is happening all through this country and even to some degree throughout the world. It comes down to strong family values, or the lack thereof.

Yes, I was a teenager only a short while ago and yes I did some pretty stupid things, but my parents held me responsible and made sure I made every wrong right.

Having small children of my own now, I know they will do stupid things, but I promise you, I will follow the tradition of my parents and hold them responsible, even when it's uncomfortable and painful.

I believe that's what is lacking all throughout our society: Holding people responsible for their own personal actions and making sure they make up anything they did wrong.

This is a great city in a great county, located in a great country. We owe it to our children and the generations to come to hold them responsible for their actions, as well as ourselves for ours, and to give our kids some expectations to live up to (and not just good grades and excellence in sports).


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Submitted by Basmati on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 12:11pm.

The good kids are in the minority and yes, it is getting worse.

Quite a broad brush you are painting with there, fancypants.

In the minority? I sincerely doubt it.

By any measurable and quantifiable statistic, Peachtree City teens are some of the best, if not THE best around. Take a look at school scores, achievements, sports accolades, college admissions rates. Peachtree City teens blow their competition out of the water.

Are there bad apples? Of course. Take a look at the police blotters printed in the paper... you'll see a teen arrested here and there. But the numbers of teens arrested are miniscule compared to the number of 20-somethings, 30-somethings and 40-somethings.

We tend to focus on the bad things, when stuff goes wrong. That's human nature. We had the first murder in ten years in our town this week. Any loss of human life is lamentable, yet I think a great number of cities would love to have a murder rate that low. Our crimes against property rate is very low as well, which is astounding when you consider the relative wealth of this community.

You say that the number of good kids is getting worse. By what criteria of yours? Anectdotal stuff you read in the Citizen? "Gut feelings"? Got some crime data you're privy too? I'd really like to know just how you came to that particularly overbroad generalization.


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Submitted by fancypants on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 2:56pm.

Skimming over a blog entry and not actually READING it.

I made a general statement about teenagers in this *country* (not county or city). You can look at any statistic and you will see that teen pregnancy, drug abuse, crime rate etc are all on the rise.

Yes, I do agree that the teenagers in PTC and Fayette County are certainly better than the national average, but we need to be vigilant to keep it that way and help them become responsible citizens.

That is only accomplished by admitting the problems and becoming part of the solution, plain and simple.


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Submitted by Basmati on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 3:58pm.

You want to look at statistics?
Challenge made...challenge accepted.

Let's look at teen pregnancy, since you brought it up.

Adolescent Pregnancy and Childbearing in the United States

It appears that your specious, unsourced claim that "teen pregancy is on the rise" is absolutely without merit.

Highlights of the above link:

  1. Among all teens ages 15 to 19, the U.S. birth rate declined by 30 percent between 1991 and 2002, from 62 per 1,000 women in 1991 to a record low of 43 in 2002. (most recent data available...2004 results will not be published until 2007)
  2. Among youth under age 15, the U.S. birth rate declined by 50 percent
  3. , from 1.4 per 1,000 women in 1991 to 0.7 in 2002

  4. Among teens ages 15 to 17, the U.S. birth rate declined 40 percent from 39 per 1,000 in 1991 to 23 in 2002
  5. Among teens ages 18 to 19, the U.S. birth rate declined 23 percent from 94 per 1,000 in 1991 to 73 in 2002

All of the above figures are backed by government statistics in the link cited above.

Now then, let's see what kind of "moral values" YOUR parents instilled in you.

I've just shown that you made an error of fact. Assuming that you are unable to find verifiable facts to bolster your own argument, what will you do now?

Will you own up to your error and apologize?

Will you ignore this post and hope people won't read it?

Will you deny the veracity of the facts I have presented above?

Truthfully, I don't know what you'll do....I haven't gotten a sense of how often you misstate your personal opinion as "facts" in your postings, whether this was a singular occurence or part of a broader pattern of delusion.

Should you opt not to respond to this post, however, I will assume that you are no better than those kids who ran away from the murder scene the other night.


Submitted by MSC on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 4:25pm.

Kids are having sex still. The trend now is anal sex so they can't and don't have to worry about pregnancy

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Submitted by Basmati on Sat, 06/24/2006 - 11:34am.

I don't deny kids are having sex. They always have, and always will. Exactly how many kids are having sex and if that has increased of late is another topic of discussion.

I was focusing on fancypant's factual errors regarding teen pregnancy rates in my above post.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 4:38pm.

When my daughter was going to SMH it was oral sex, on the bus no less.

I can’t tell you how happy that my neighbors and I were when our daughters, five in total, asked if we could drive them to school. Three of my neighbors and I readily agreed to.

P.S. By the way, two were cheerleaders, two were part time models and all of them were smart enough to tell us.


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Submitted by muddle on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 4:05pm.

I'm not sure that I want to wade into this one, but I wonder if the stats that you cite are capable of providing the entire picture.

Where does the ready availability of contraceptives (combined with a hands-on seminar in the form of middle and high school sex ed) factor in? The youth in question could be engaged in Rockdale-County-Like orgies on a daily basis and we could still have these stats if they've simply become more savvy.

Would this satisfy what is the real concern? I mean, are we only concerned if a young girl becomes pregnant? Or is it the promiscuity that could yield that result?

Further, does abortion play any role? I have no idea what the trends are here.


Submitted by skyspy on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 1:52pm.

I have suffered some property damage and theft by teens and so have my neighbors. Only one incident was in the police blotter. I don't know if they intentionally leave out some arrests to help this look like a safe place? If this does not look like a safe community then of course home sales and prices will go down if the truth is out. They did make an arrest in all but one case. What gives? Where can we find a record of arrests online? I have talked to Deputies in other counties who say that half of what is going on here is not being reported. At least not in the paper.

I have great respect for our police force I think they do a tremdous job with their limited resources; but the question still remains: How safe are we......really????

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Submitted by John Munford on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 2:59pm.

More than likely the age of the suspect is the main problem here. 16 and younger, they go to juvenile court where everything is a secret, unless you kill, rape, assault, etc. somebody else.

Same with traffic tickets. If anything, the traffic citations should be public for sure along with the violent stuff.


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Submitted by kohesion on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 2:40pm.

There is lots of garbage going on in Gables Court (off of stephens entry)

Mostly theft / vandalism / graffiti ...

I have called the police twice this month already. I bet it didn't show up in the paper.


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 2:43pm.

There are a tremendous amount of good kids at that school. My Son just finished the 8th grade, and I met lots of good kids. Are they perfect? No way, but they are as good of a group as you will find in most places.

Submitted by supergrover1687 on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 5:02pm.

Booth really isn't the problem. It's more Highschool. I mean I know that there is some stuff that goes on at that age, but not to the magnitude of what happens at the high school.
The kids in Highschool have more access to things. They can drive and most people give them more freedom because of their age. I mean once they are 18 they can buy stuff like Red Dawn or Hypnotic at the adult stores like Starship. And for those who don't know Red Dawn and other crap like that is kinda like ecstacy, but legal. Most kids are turning to these "legal" substances to get their highs instead of drugs.
Im glad that you are involved in your sons life. Keep it up, especially when he gets to high school.Stay in your kids life and he won't end up the topic of a descussion like this.
God Bless

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Submitted by Basmati on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 7:59pm.

Excellent commentary, concerned teen ptc!

I do agree that most of the posts in this thread have shown an appalling lack of civility and sensitivity today as they scramble to out-shout each other in their efforts to lecture teens on the "way things ought to be".

The "old hen" contingent here was in its grotesque full-throated glory today.

That sort of smugness is the exception, not the rule.


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 7:02pm.

The way I see it. My Son knows about guns, he knows the damage they can do. Plenty of blame to go around, the the one in the County jail is the biggest problem.

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Submitted by veryveryconcerned on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 3:20pm.

Peachtree City….Beautiful…comfortable… but living here I must say I’ve learned it’s like "if you have money, then you fit right in...if you don't then you need to work your butt off to “FIT RIGHT IN” and keep up with the "IN CROWD or THE JONES’S" for that matter. First of all, your kids don’t need every name brand in sight. They have no business getting their own car either (heaven knows they are only driving it while under the influence!) Yes some kids work, but for what? To support their little habits really. And the older “KIDS” they use their age to buy the alcohol for the younger ones too. Ok…Well…I have family members that live here. Of those family members some are "TEENAGERS" Key word: TEENAGERS (or could also be known as “SPOILED BRATS”). I believe that one of those “TEENAGERS’ (that I know) happened to be in that circle of "FRIENDS" who were around on that awful, unforgettable Tuesday. Anyhow, so what should we view this sad act as? Do we call what happened on that night when the kids were “JUST HANGING OUT” as I’m sure most of them told their parents, a TRAGEDY? Should we call it a “LESSON” for them to learn from? A SENSELESS MISTAKE? What? I’m a little confused!! Does it take someone to lose their life, for PARENTS to FINALLY OPEN THEIR EYES? Although I feel tremendous sorrow for the families of all the victims or for anyone who would have to go through something as horrible as this I have to say that it is all the PARENTS FAULT! (PARENTS Of the kids involved/or around that night). I know we shouldn’t be pointing fingers at a time like this BUT WE NEED TO SO THAT IT DOESN’T HAPPEN AGAIN! Are you all REALLY that STUPID? Well YES I believe so. (I know not all parents are like this). Rich or poor some still believe in values and rules and try their hardest to teach their children that. Of course I know there are bad things and temptations all around to lure our children astray. Don’t we all know that? Isn’t that one of the reasons we are supposed to wear the pants in the family? I guess not being that most kids are the ones wearing the pants nowadays! PARENTS Wear your pants tighter!! Don’t let the kids yank them off of you with their sweet talk. PARENTS step up to your plate. You are a PARENT for a reason. Stop letting the “kids” pull the wool over your eyes. Stop believing every single word that comes out of their mouth. Especially the “I don’t drink” or the “I don’t smoke” lines. WAKE UP!!!! How embarrassing that the joke’s on you! Take RESPONSIBILITY for your and your children’s actions NOW! Some parents buy the alcohol for their children and their friends. They think its ok because they are drinking it at their house. I mean… getting “CRUNK” at their house. The famous Lake that your kids go to…Well NEWS FLASH PARENTS…they love to get CRUNK there and from what I hear they also use the “LAKE” to have sex. They also go fishing but for the wrong things. One of these days take a ride down there and see for yourself. Their “MYSPACE” pages? My goodness you can have a field day on their pages. Most of the high and mighty of Peachtree have there teenagers on there flaunting their drinking ways and getting high moments posted on there. Don’t believe me? Even one of our own Superintendent’s daughters has a picture of herself posted kissing a bottle of LIQUOR. There are so many messages posted of our Peachtree City TEENS about constantly getting CRUNK. Pictures and pictures of them showing “HOW FUN” they looked while getting CRUNK. And from what I heard about some Peachtree TEENS going on their “Sr. Trip cruise”…Did anyone happen to check their Luggage? Some were so tricky they went to great lengths to fill their shampoo bottles and other things with liquor. really smart! Some of your kids used their fried up brains to come up with a sneaky idea. So how do PARENTS not know any of this? Do you all just pretend to be blind? Ok Here’s another one….I’ve heard it time and again, “well my kid hangs out with this kid because he comes from such a great family” and “he/she is a good kid. His parents have such a great job”. REALLY? That’s why your Kids lie to you in your face about what they are really up to at night? PARENTS be smarter. Know what your kids are really up to. These kids are the future. What happened to good, clean fun? Most of you PARENTS are bringing up MEAN SPIRITED, SPOILED BRATS. I THINK ALL THE PARENTS OF THOSE TEENAGERS SHOULD FACE UP TO THE LAW, INCLUDING THE TEENAGERS AROUND THAT NIGHT. EVERYONE IS BLAMING EACHOTHER AND ACTING LIKE THEY DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT NIGHT. TYPICAL. PEACHTREE CITY SHOULD COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY AND TRY TO KNOCK SOME SENSE INTO ALL THESE KID’S HEADS....SO NOW ALL YOU KIDS WHO TRY AND ACT LIKE BAD-ASSES WHY AREN’T YOU ALL ACTING SO COOL NOW? I WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS ESPECIALLY THE TEENS THAT ARE GOING TO DEFEND THEIR WAYS. IT'S OK CAUSE I KNOW ALMOST ALL THE THINGS I SAID HERE ARE TRUE! SORRY PARENT’S BUT THE AWFUL JOKE’S ON YOU!


Submitted by WoogieBoogie on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 4:11pm.

I'm just amazed at all of you. You actually take the time to look up the kids myspace pages. That is just lame. Obviously some of you have too much free time on your hands. Use it wisely on your kids so maybe this won't happen again. The fact that some of you say such things about these kids is just horrible. To some of you that don't know what your kids are doing, just ride around on the golf cart and smell the air. All there is for kids to do in Peachtree City is ride around on their golf carts with their parents money and buy drugs.

Submitted by ms on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 8:35pm.

Holy Crap! I thought I had heard it all until I read this. A group of misquided teenagers make a terrible decision that ultimately costs someone their life, and we find a way to work in "blame the FCC and the Democrats". You're right man! Let's not have any of that personal responsiblity junk on this blog. This is squarely the Democrats fault. We should hold a hearing in DC.

And as for the two servicemembers in Iraq (and I am a servicemember), the story was on EVERY news network. Maybe you only watch FOX, but most of us like to watch a mixture of channels before we blindly follow one news organization.

Keep at it yaught! Go to the polls on Nov 7th and reelect the guy that knows 3 of the 10 Commandments (kind of knows them anyway). Guys like you and he will get this place cleaned up in no time! Oh yeah, if the gist of your blog is to complain about others pointing fingers, maybe you shouldn't point fingers. Kind of like if your gonna sponsor a bill referencing the 10 Commandments, you kind-a, ought-a know what the 10 Commandments are.

But what do I know.

Submitted by WoogieBoogie on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 5:25pm.

Ok yaught, you obviously don't know what goes on very well. The age factor must have you in the dark. Blame the FCC? That is one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while. The FCC isn't the problem, it's the parents that do a bad job of raising their kids. For the record, drugs are a very big problem among teens in Peachtree City. All they have to do is buy from the local dealers in Harmony Village or go over to Clayton County. I know numerous parents that have drug problems in their family (teens). A very large number of them do in fact ride around on their golf carts using drugs (smoking marijuana, eating mushrooms, buying crack cocaine) those types of things. Just ride around on your golf cart for a while and you while notice these things. The drugs are what bring a lot of the problems. The low income people selling drugs to help make a little more income (Harmony Village, Wynnmeade).

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Submitted by kohesion on Thu, 06/22/2006 - 12:22am.

I like that.. I am glad you've got my back on that one. Maybe we should have some sort of breeding eligibility test.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for welfare. We need to passify the masses so they don't riot. On the otherhand, I think welfare should come with mandatory sterilization. If you want to party all the time, great, go for it.

Once you are ready to become a productive citizen we'll take the norplant out of your arms.


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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 3:42pm.

Thanks Veryveryconcerned. You are very very right. We gotta get in the middle of our kids lives and be the parents we need to be. I know how I was as a teenager. By the grace of God I am still alive. What has changed that makes us think that our kids are above all this. My God people....stop hanging at the Fred and start hanging with your kids. I get made fun of at work because I chose to give up golf so I could spend my free time with my kids. It has paid off...but I worry that this is not enough. You know...when I come home I have a couple of people that actually like me because I put them first. And sometimes my wife even likes me. Looking at Myspace tells me that young people are screaming for attention and direction. And it's not being bought off with comfort and material possessions that they seek. Thanks again.

Please define "crunk" for me. Guess I'm getting to be an old guy.

Sorry Baswipe...I mentioned a higher being again.


Submitted by Xcheerleader on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 4:21pm.

I believe Crunk means: a combination of getting crazy/drunk. The only reason I know this, is that occasionally I listen to some rap/R&B type music. That term has been around for a long time. You must be getting old. Don't feel so bad though. Smiling

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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 8:12pm.

Thanks Xcheer. Been there done that and didn't know what it was called. Only thing is I wish I never went there. Neat thing about getting a little older and wiser is that I've learned that I don't need to drink to to act crazy. Crazy thing is that I've never seen any good come out of getting trashed. But I have sure seen alot of death and ruined lives. You hit one thing on the head....old I guess I'm gettin.


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Submitted by fancypants on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 3:36pm.

sounds like you are very, very crunk!

Btw, here is a "Shampoo" pic:
http://tinyurl.com/h8yda


Submitted by netbrad on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 1:57pm.

This situation and those affected should not be coddled. If anything, PTC residents should say we don't want irresponsible parents or children in our city, especially those that bring destruction and mayhem. These parents failed in teaching their children a basic set of values and responsibilities and have suffered the consequences. Giving "support" only excuses the behavior.

Submitted by allin on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 2:34pm.

netbrad - You can not be for real. Must be lonely and cold at the top of that Throne.

Submitted by netbrad on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 4:37pm.

Not lonely, and no throne. More like a large fort with other responsible people, keeping societal barbarians away. My point is, there seems to be a denial mechanism at work here instead of a public outcry. Once you allow the behavior of those in your community to degrade so that an event like this happens its all downhill. The lack of parental responsibility in this city is appalling.

Submitted by volley819 on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 1:29pm.

If you choose to participate in risky behavior, the dangers increase. Take responsibility! You control your life, so TAKE CONTROL! That applies to everyone. Be smart, make responsible choices. Don't put yourself in bad situations, and you won't have to worry about it. Finding blame with everyone else is just an excuse... IT'S YOUR LIFE!!

Submitted by volley819 on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 12:18pm.

You are right - bad things happen to bad kids in bad places. However, bad things often happen to good kids in familiar places. Accidents happen to good kids and to bad kids. Good parents can have bad kids, and bad parents can have good kids. There are so many inputs in the world today that influence who we are.

What happened to Dallas Crenshaw was a terrible tragedy. Parents, it's okay to be over-protective and to always try to know where your kids are. Yes, kids won't always tell the truth, but if you teach good values and trust your children to make intelligent decisions for themselves, then you've done your job as a parent. It's a big world out there - be smart and be careful. Peachtree City is no different than anywhere else, and still is a wonderful place to live.

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Submitted by fancypants on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 3:31pm.

This is a terrible tragedy, but one caused by an obvious lack of common sense!

Let's recap:

- Party at a house with no "real" adults.
- Middle of the night (3:20am).
- Alcohol and underage drinking.
- A gun in the hands of a minor.
- Kids who might be called "good" by everybody who knows them, but who really want to be bad/badass/A "Hustla" (see Kevin's blog)!

This is not as much of an accident, as a tragedy that was long in the making. I'm sure this "party" started early evening and lasted for several hours, plenty of time for anybody with any common sense to smell the roses (or booze in this case) and take a hike! One could probably even argue that it started even earlier than this, with a minor getting a hold of a gun, drugs and alcohol and not being told in a harsh yet loving way to stay away from those things way before that.

If my still young children ever run into any of these things when they are older, I hope they turn right around and LEAVE!

As many others have said on here before, we feel the parents' and the friends' grief over this tragic event, but please don't claim that all those involved were "innocent" at all.

We are not "judging" these kids or claim we know everything that went on, but some of the things that lead up to this are just so very obvious. I'm sure that in plain daylight Kevin, Dallas and Chris helped old ladies across the street with a big smile on their face, but in the middle of the night, after a couple of shots and a few sniffs/drags of whatever drug... well, you know what happened.

We all have been through this or similar circumstances: young, bold, "smart" and all knowing, fearless and sure to live forever, certain that "the old folks" just don't get it. I just hope that all parties involved learn from this and CHANGE their way of thining! Life is too precious to be wasted in such a worthless manner.

You have to make the right choice ** EVERY TIME ** or somebody will get hurt. Unfortunately Kevin, Chris, Dallas and all their friends made the wrong choice/s that night.


Submitted by jen013 on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 11:14am.

what the heck is everyone deal!! Blaming people, goin through the what ifs or if onlys, how this could happen 2 anyone, & complaining having nothing better to do in PTC...these are excuses and all of it is pointless. God Bless all those who only comment to be supportive and have said a prayer for everyone hurting! I read some of the comments and it tears at my heart that some people could be so heartless, rude, and inconsiderate to the friends and family. I wish everyone got a chance to meet these kids because both were amazing people. So please keep those comments to yourself and lets just offer support, prayer, and love to all those who are hurting and whose lives have been destroyed from this. At times like this the communtiy needs to come together in this and not chose sides. Plz understand and spare us the hurt.

Submitted by ptcity123 on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 9:36am.

before everyone one tries to gossip aND POINT FINGERS CALLING THEM ALL STUPID AND BAD KIDS.. THINK PLEASE. DALLAS WAS A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND KEVIN WAS HIS BEST FRIEND.. CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW MUCH HE WILL PAY FOR THIS... HIS FAMILY IS COMPLETELY CRUSHED AND YOU WAN'T TO SIT HERE AND LIST WHAT HE IS GUILTY OF I THINK ITS APPARENT AND I THINK HE KNOWS BECAUSE HES IN JAIL AND HE'LL BE THERE FOR A WHILE. DALLAS MAY HAVE BEEN INTO SOME THINGS THAT DON'T EXACTLY ABIDE WITH THE LAW BUT HE WAS KIND AND HE CARED...AND HES DEAD.. WHAT IS YA'LLS PROBLEM CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND . ALL YOUU KNOW IS THE STORY IN THE NEWSPAPER... YOU DON'T KNOW THE PAIN BOTH FAMILIES AND THEIR FRIENDS ARE GOING THROUGH. ALL YOU KNOW IS THEIR LIVES KNOW.. AND YOU TRY AND SAY THAT KEVIN IS JUST ANOTHER STUPID KID... WELL THIS WAS WRONG AND NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED BUT I GUARENTEE YOU DON'T KNOW HALF OF IT. AND I JUST FEEL LIKE YA'LL ARE A BUNCH OF OVERPROTECTIVE PARENTS THAT HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TEENAGERS ARE DEALING WITH TODAY.. NO YOUR KIDS DON'T TELL YOU ANYTHING... THATS HOW ITS GOING TO BE. NOW DALLAS IS GONE BECAUSE SOMEONE TRIED TO LOOKLIKE A BADASS,... HE SLIPPED UP NOW HES GOING TO PAY HIS LIFE IN JAIL.. AND WITH IT ON HIS RECORD.. DON'T LET THE COMMENTS ABOVE MINE BE A LESSON.... LET THE GRIEF AND AND THE PAIN OF THE JOHNSTONS AND THE CRENSHAWS THE LOSS OF TWO SONS. RIP DALLAS.

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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 12:24pm.

cleaned brain, bone and blood particles splattered all over the house because someone blew their head up with a 20 guage because of the effects of drugs, alcohol, and gambling I do know what the families are going through. First of all shut up and stop yelling at us. You just got a lesson in life that might save your ass someday. There are certain behaviours that can jeapordize your life and cause yourself and your loved ones to have to deal with awful consequences like these that result from the kinds of lifestyles and behaviours these punks exhibited.

As far as I'm concerned they can do what they want as long as it does not affect me or my family. The problem is that it usually does. You go on and deny your destructive lifestyles and continue to tell us what wonderful and innocent chilren they were. We're not buying it. These were brats who have no respect for others and have to justify themselves through drugs, sex, and trying to prove to everyone what a badass they are. You know what kid...we can talk about this Criminal Activity and we have every right to. We've been there. And we see you roll your eyes at us when we try to keep you from going through this s*%t. Now blame your buddiesand not us. Now get you own act together.


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Submitted by Basmati on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 1:20pm.

The next time one of your loved ones decides to eat a gun Git Real, I'd recommend calling Bio-Tec (1-888-246-9111) for cleanup instead. It's a lot less traumatizing. They offer competitive rates (I use 'em on my rental properties) and are very prompt and courteous. Tell 'em Basmati sent you.

Now, with that out of the way, would it be too much to ask of you to go do your incessant sermonizing in another thread? Must you always be the center of attention? You come in here, a little more than 24 hours after a murder and hector those that are grieving about this senseless loss and call folks "punks" and "brats".

You, sir, are the Peachtree City equivalent of that "GodHatesFags" guy who pickets deceased soldiers funerals. Anything for a soapbox.


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Submitted by ArmyMAJretired on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 1:24pm.

Well you won't be nominated for Mr. Sensitivity either then, mocking the cleaning up of a dearly departed. I thought you were the center of attention hound here.


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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 12:57pm.

How very sad that your life should hold a memory as tragic as this; you didn't make me laugh this time, quite the opposite. Sad and sorry state of affairs that we are living with. Wish there were a magic answer for all the sorrow and hurt that we read and listen to every day. Thoughts and prayers to all that this has affected, directly and indirectly.


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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 2:03pm.

Thanks. What I debated with myself on before actually posting was whether to predict Cat Eaters response or not. I saw him lurking in the background and told myself....Self...should I invite Bassomatic to now have at me as I close? He was certainly very predictable on this one. But we just consider the source and understand that some folk just ain't right.

Hey Bassomatic....how about a fresh picture. If you go to Drudge there is a pic of Cindy Sheehan protesting in some foreign land calling Bush the worlds #1 terrorist.


Submitted by grendlemom on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 10:17am.

I can see that there are a couple of brand-new bloggers here who are sad, mad, scared and hurting - do you not see and hear this? You might call it whining, call it what you will, and some of their points are invalaid and complaining teenagers. However, I believe some of these young folks have gotten a real wake-up call with this one. Young folks, you've got one old gal who is thinking about you, praying for you, and I can feel that pain and fear that is coming out as anger. Stay strong, learn the lessons life has so bitterly dealt to you.

Submitted by allin on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 11:34am.

Grendlemon

Very nicely stated. I believe we all are feeling the pain, some of us can reflect back on an event in our life that was traumatic and tragic. Or maybe we were the luckily ones that did not feel the peer pressure or left early.

Every generation has experienced drugs, alcohol, sex and kids stating that their parents don't understand the pressure of the new generation.

You can be the most caring, loving and protective parents around but the peer pressure sometimes overrule good judgment and decision making. Early in life and was one of the luckily ones that only had to attend the funeral, then deal with the pain and sorrow of loosing a best friend.

Wish I had the answers or could change the outcome - Grendlemon statement "learn the lesson that life bitterly dealt" is a good start.

My thoughts and prayers to the friends and family

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Submitted by nuk on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 10:11am.

That's quite a WHINE.

"overprotective parents?" Is that some kind of joke? There's far too many "under-protective parents" in PTC and that's how tragedies like this occur. "No idea what teens are dealing with?" Hey, I was a teenager myself once and survived it without a ton of whining somehow and moping about having nothing to do or whatever. Believe it or not, there were TONS of drugs back in my day in Fayette County as well as underage drinking....it's not some new phenomena that just started happening to all the poor teens in PTC. It's the choices you make that decide whether you make it to adulthood or get arrested numerous times by the cops or worse.

NUK


Submitted by ptcity123 on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 10:37am.

overprotective parents wasn't the content of my comment. im not whining or moping but two pooeple very close to me just had thier lives ended.. i suggest you stop trying to actlike you know what happened. does this affect anything in your life like it will mine. its not the drinking and the drugs thats not what anyone is "whining about" did i say nothing to do.. no.. and poor ptc teens?? ive lost three of my close friends this year to jail.. suicide and murder.. i think you should think before you speak. and im not a ptc teen . im not whining ither.. but i am making a cry for dallas' family i don't think they want to read that their sons death was "coming to him' as someone had commented. all he cared about on monday night was the godfather video game and his friends.

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Submitted by ArmyMAJretired on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 1:05pm.

As a parent, I morn the loss of any child in a needless accident. In college my fraternity lost a pledge to a stupid hazing incident. He was my pledge brother. His family lost a great human being. The person responsible was convicted of criminally negligent homicide.

If any lesson can be learned that prevents this type of incident happening again, then open and frank discussions are needed.

My youngest son's Boy Scout Troop recently talked about "six seconds of stupid". All the time it takes to make a bad choice. In this incident there were several:

1. A party with minors and no adult supervision.

2. Alcohol and drugs.

3. Bringing a gun to a party with the above.

4. Improper handling of #3.

Just a comment on your closing remark, I do not know this young man, but I think you do him a diservice saying he only cared about a video game and friends. I'm sure he cared about many important things, his future, his family etc.

Sorry for your loss, you should avoid this site if it is going to upset you and add to your grief.


Submitted by nelly1 on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 8:06am.

You know what....Everyone has my space pages. It's a typical teenage thing, and it doesnt tell you who a person is by the things they write on their page. Everyone is trying to blame one person. The police need to get the story from everyone before they make their decision on who did it. All the little **** that ran once they heard the shot know what really happened. They just want to protect themselves. Kevin is not a bad guy. He would never do something like this. Dallas was his friend If peachtree city had things for kids to do, their prob. wouldnt be such a drug problem. And another thing. Who cares how much homes are in the Centennial Subdivision. PEachtree city always has to throw the money thing into it. If this family has so much money they should of hired a babysitter for their son. I think every single kid that was at that party, including the boy that lived their needs to be charged.

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Submitted by kohesion on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 8:45am.

PTC kids have nothing to do?!? OH PLEASE!

I'll give them something to do. I'd make them turn the TV off and start a garden in the backyard. That'll keep them busy all summer.


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Submitted by fancypants on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 8:22am.

Hmm, let's see what we know from his own page:

- Drug user
- Alcohol user
- Loves to party

Then we know he was at a party in the early morning hours, with a gun, drugs and alcohol!

Makes him bad in my book. Not bad as in intentionally killing somebody, but still bad and just as bad as all the other kids who were there.

** Bad things happen to bad people in bad places! **

Being at a party on a work day in the whee hours of the morning, where there are drugs, alcohol and guns is just PLAIN stupid! Smart kids would have seen the writing on the wall and gone home!

Yes I feel bad for all parties involved and wish this could be undone, but it really gets me how people will say "oh, he/she is such a good kid/person/father/mother/neighbor" after somebody got themselves into serious trouble like this, due to their OWN stupid actions!

If Kevin, Dallas or Chris would have had a little more common sense, this would not have happened! It is so very unfortunate that all of these kids were not able to learn some valuable lessons about life and their actions in a less harsh way.


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Submitted by Nancy Faulkner on Tue, 06/20/2006 - 10:00pm.

These kids have My Space pages. Just search for their names and narrow it down by zip code. Some of the comments left for these kids from their friends amaze me. After something so tragic...they STILL don't get it. They just want to party on as usual.

On Kevin's page there is a picture of the girl with the gun shoved down her jeans pointed at her ..... well, it makes me wonder how long these kids have been playing with guns and why the parents didn't know.


Submitted by nelly1 on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 8:10am.

I just want to ask you one thing...do you know everything your kids are doing? People are so quick to blame something bad that happens on someone else.

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Submitted by Nancy Faulkner on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 12:03pm.

I don't know everything my kids are up to. I actively monitor my kids' internet usage and talk to them when I see something that concerns me.

I called the police when I read My Space blogs kids were writing that listed reasons another boy's mother deserved to DIE. The Mom thought it was just 'sick' humor and was actually upset that I called attention to it because she didn't want her son to get into trouble.


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Submitted by Basmati on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 6:03am.

Here are all the comments posted on Kevin Johnston's Myspace page from yesterday.

  • Kev...what up homie. Be strong and we love ya. You'll get through this! my prayers are with you! love you!
  • Kevin I am thinking about you right now and You have been in my prayers all day. I know you will get through this. You have such a good heart and that's what everyone loves about you. Love You!
  • You are in my prayers. I LOVE YOU KEVIN. Love Your ..1
  • damn kevin. ima keep you and your family in my thoughts.
  • RIP Dallas,and Good luck kevin. i hope everything goes as well as it can for you.
  • Yo homie... I just wanted to let you know I am thinkin bout you!! I love you K Dawg!

I don't see a single "want to party on as usual" comment there. There WAS a "I want to party with you" comment...from DECEMBER 2005

Your post was nothing more than a gratuitous cheap shot at his friends, Nancy. Shame on you.


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Submitted by Nancy Faulkner on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 8:04am.

You're right the kids DID seem concerned on his page. What bothered me was what I saw when I went to their friend’s links and read what they were writing.

I didn't mean it as a cheap shot and I didn't mean to offend anyone. I just want parents to know what kids are up to and get to know who their friends REALLY are, since they are freely posting everything on Myspace for the world to see.

Last night I saw 3 pictures with GUNS and an old comment: "It's not how many u kill....but who u kill."


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Submitted by fancypants on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 7:29am.

You know, initially I felt bad for this kid having shot his friend. Looking at his myspace page I'm not sure if I still feel bad for him, though.

His nickname is "$Hustla$" and he states about himself "i like ... anything that gets your adrenalin up" and "In the past month have you been on Drugs: ....depends?".

A lot of you are going to say now "oh, he's just a typical teenager", well' I'd like to say "he's the typical teenager who gets himself in this kind of trouble".

I just hope he and his friends, as well as all parents involved learn from this tragedy and never forget it!


Submitted by MSC on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 2:02pm.

Not to mention his answer to 2 questions I saw:

1. number of drugs I have taken ? 4
2. have you ever shoplifted ? yes

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Submitted by muddle on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 7:11am.

Right. I read the comments, too, and all of them that post-date the incident express love, concern and support.

Perhaps she was reacting, though, to the more general features of the site--the music, images, language, etc. God help our teens.


Submitted by supergrover1687 on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 12:06pm.

How about parents?!!?! God allows us to make our own decisions, and with them comes consequences. It is the parents who are supposed to teach us how to make good decisions. What we need here is better parenting. Parents stop trying to be "cool" or your kids friend. Or just stop thinking about yourselves for once and think of your kids. This whole thing could have been avoided if Chris's parents had placed a RESPONSIBLE adult in the house while they were gone.
Now don't get me wrong, Im not blaming parents, but they are a big factor, because where else do kids learn how to act?!?!
God Bless and may those who are hurting find peace in him.

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Submitted by muddle on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 12:22pm.

That was rather a strange reaction to what was intended mainly as a lament.

Saying "God help our teens" is legitimate both metaphorically and literally. I mainly had the metaphorical in mind. But then, of course, good parenting and divine assistance are not mutually exclusive categories. One might in fact pray that a set of parents will grow in their wisdom.

One might as well respond to your (nice) closing of "God bless" by pointing out that whatever "blessings" one receives has to do with more mundane circumstances.


Submitted by supergrover1687 on Wed, 06/21/2006 - 12:42pm.

I really wasn't ragging on you. Your comment just allowed me to portray what I wanted better. I know what you mean. It makes more sense (well to me) to go into an already ongoing conversation by linking in your thoughts with those already present. Hmmm I hope I make sense.
God Bless(hehe)

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