Cops debated before arresting city manager for DUI

Thu, 06/08/2006 - 3:06pm
By: John Munford

Two top-ranking police officials questioned whether it would be wise to arrest the Peachtree City manager for DUI while driving his golf cart Saturday night after a concert, according to several police reports obtained Thursday morning under the Georgia Open Records Act.

Click here to view the police reports used in this article: Report 1, Report 2, Report 3, Report 4, Report 5, Report 6, Report 7.

In their reports, Major Mike Dupree and Capt. Stan Pye noted how uncomfortable they were with the situation. DuPree and Pye stopped Bernie McMullen after he began to drive his golf cart toward them in the parking lot, with a glass of what appeared to be wine in his hand, according to Pye’s report.

At one point, Dupree and Pye had called a cab to take McMullen home, one of the reports indicated. They also contacted Chief of Police James Murray, but any direction he may have given them is unclear in the reports.

DuPree and Pye’s reports also state several times that they were afraid either investigating or not investigating the incident could lead to retribution against them.

McMullen was ultimately arrested for DUI after a police sergeant conducted a field sobriety test, police reports indicate. Williams indicated in his report that McMullen had difficulty following several of the physical requirements of the test. A reading from a portable alcohol sensor showed that McMullen had an alcohol content of .104. McMullen later declined to take a test on the department’s desktop breath alcohol testing device, the results of which could possibly have been used in court.

When the sergeant, Brad Williams, informed McMullen he was being arrested for DUI, McMullen “asked to call the Chief of Police in to speak with him,” Williams said in his report.

“I advised him that I did not think that the chief of police would come in at this time of night but the captain and the major were standing nearby. The subject then asked me if I knew who he was and I advised, ‘no.’ He then told me that he was the city manager for Peachtree City,” Williams wrote in his report of the incident.

The decision to investigate McMullen for a suspected DUI case made both Pye and DuPree uncomfortable according to their reports.

“As we stood there talking, it was clear to me that he should not be operating the vehicle any longer due to the fact that I felt he was an unsafe driver and a hazard,” Pye wrote in his report.

A short time later, Pye had continued talking to McMullen and noted that “the more I spoke with him and watched his movements, the more it was clear that he was very intoxicated and should be held accountable for driving under the influence and possessing an open container in one of the city’s recreational areas.”

Soon after, McMullen told Pye that he felt “targeted and harassed,” according to Pye’s report. McMullen also said at least two times that he was not resisting the officers, one report stated.

Both DuPree and Pye indicated in their reports that they were uncomfortable doing anything but treating McMullen like an average citizen, and after they had a discussion to that affect, Sgt. Williams was summoned to the scene to conduct the sobriety test on McMullen.

Earlier in the evening, DuPree and Pye had noticed that McMullen appeared intoxicated as they said good-bye to him at the amphitheater’s exit, their reports stated. One of the accounts stated that McMullen and a female friend he was with appeared to be leaning on each other as they exited the amphitheater.

Both Dupree and Pye’s reports indicated that they assumed McMullen was going to be given a ride home; there was no indication that McMullen left the amphitheater with an open container of alcohol.

Minutes after saying good-bye to McMullen, the officers encountered him driving toward them on the nearby cart path, and they decided to stop him.

“While walking toward him to stop him, Capt. Pye stated we could not let him drive. I agreed, as he obviously appeared intoxicated upon leaving the concert,” DuPree’s report stated.

The officers first inquired whether anyone could take home McMullen and two passengers in his golf cart, DuPree’s report stated.

“After trying to make a phone call, someone suggested calling a cab. After a very brief discussion with Capt. Pye, we reluctantly considered doing this,” DuPree’s report stated.

Then DuPree pulled McMullen aside for a chat.

“During our conversation, based on my vast experience, I believed that Mr. McMullen’s demeanor was very indicative of that of a person who was intoxicated to the point of impairment. ... He explained that he had drank about two glasses of wine and thought that he could drive. I told him that in my opinion he was impaired and that I would not allow him to drive,” DuPree’s report stated.

McMullen also told DuPree that “it had been a rough week and that he had planned to drink a couple of glasses of wine at the concert, that is why he drove his golf cart rather than his car,” the report stated.

Dupree and Pye’s reports also indicated that as McMullen approached them on the golf cart, he appeared to be attempting to conceal the wine glass.

Before asking McMullen to step out of the cart, they asked him several times to pour out his wine, DuPree and Pye’s reports stated. Pye’s report indicated that McMullen once said, “it’s just wine” before ultimately pouring it out. The wine spilled on Pye’s shoe, according to his report.

DuPree noted that when he and Pye made contact with McMullen on the golf cart, they both had a bag of popcorn leftover from the concert.

“Due to the situation, I felt awkward dealing with our city manager regarding a law enforcement violation with both Capt. Pye and I having a bag of popcorn in our hands. I took Capt. Pye’s popcorn and proceeded to my vehicle...” DuPree wrote in his report.

Officers who work security at the amphitheater typically are stationed at the exit to remind patrons to dump any alcoholic beverage they may have ... or drink it there on the spot, DuPree said in an interview Wednesday. It is a violation of city ordinance to possess alcohol in a city park, and the amphitheater is surrounded by the McIntosh Trail recreation complex, which includes a nearby skating ramp and picnic shelter.

The amphitheater erects signs before each concert reminding patrons not to bring their drinks into the parking lot, police said.

Although police have said they notice intoxicated persons leaving the amphitheater, it is generally assumed they all have designated drivers to take them home, police said.

The security officers don’t usually reach the parking lot until after most amphitheater patrons have left the parking lot, DuPree said. Occasionally officers have to go to some people in the adjacent pavilion area and ask them to leave, he added.

“Our job is to make sure everybody has a good time and that they stay safe,” DuPree said.

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Submitted by AverageJoe on Sun, 06/11/2006 - 4:27pm.

A lot of responses here whine about the PTC PD doing their job well, apparently because they are doing it well without showing any favoritism. Sounds like the whiners have an axe to grind for their own personal issues.

So what if PTC PD targets drunk drivers? Isn't that what we pay them to do, to make PTC a safer and better place?

My outrage is that Bernie, fully aware of the law, chose to get drunk, have alcohol in a prohibited place, and knowingly get on his cart and drive while intoxicated, creating a danger to himself and others. Please get a grip everyone, why should anyone defend such behavior?

Are you defending a drunk driver because you support driving while drunk or is it that you or someone in your family might have gotten a ticket for speeding or doing something else that you shouldn't have been doing, and now you just want to take a slap at the best PD in the state?

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Submitted by ManofGreatLogic on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 5:13pm.

Call me ignorant, but I think it should be perfectly legal to drink and drive a golf cart. It maxes at 19.5 mph. Give me a break. There are people who can RUN faster than that.

Even if it remains illegal (and it will), we have become a society that is so uptight that we make THIS silly little incident into a huge big deal. He'll probably be asked to quit (or be fired), be ridiculed for months online and in the Free Speech section, and have to sell his house and move.

But, such is our modern PC society in which every little thing we do is everyone's business. But, hey, have no fear. In a few more years the government will know ALL our little secrets, and then you will be saying the same thing I'm saying: LIGHTEN UP. Just because you agree with our president when he says he needs to tap your phone does not mean you are exempt. You will be under a microscope, whether liberal, conservative, or other. The only people who don't have to worry about government intrusion are illegal aliens and terrorists.

Don't forget: The president and vice president you all so dearly love are both CONVICTED drunk drivers. How does that make you feel?

But, hey, that's a private matter, right? Yeah, only when we agree wtih their politics.

Most people are flaming hypocrits.

I see people with beers in their hands quite often in the golf carts. I do the same thing to them that I do to people in boats with beers in hand.

I wave.

We are not little kids.


Submitted by Ed Medlin on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 8:37am.

I'm a former police chief, a former defense attorney, and a former magistrate. I don't drink, but I used to, and I certainly don't have a problem with people long as they behave lawfully. And, I don't live in Peachtree City. In other words, I have no horse in this race.

I would, however, like to offer a few general comments.

First, enforcing laws is one of the means by which police officers contribute to the quality of life in a community. Enforcment should not be an end in itself, nor, under most circumstances, should it be the only approach to solving problems. If someone were to suggest that an open beer in the hand of a golf cart passenger is not not same as an open container in car in the left lane of I-85, I would not argue the point.

Second, selective enforcement, whether by targetting a particular individual or group, or giving certain people a "pass" is not fair, and tends to breed cynicism and/or minor (at least) corruption. In other words, it is wrong to scrutinize on the basis of skin color, it is wrong to look the other way when a public official does something that would get another citizen into trouble, and, for that matter, it is wrong for a police officer to give a break to off-duty cops he or she stops for speeding or DUI (officers refer to this a "professional courtesy," but it's never seemed very professional).

Third, and last, the very second a person tries to use his or her official position/authority/connections as a way to avoid the normal consequences for his or her behvior is the moment at which the person ceases to deserve the benefit of the doubt, and is the moment at which private behavior becomes job-related and a matter of public concern.

Several years ago, two young police officers in our department got got into some trouble in a bar in Atlanta. One was having marital problems, and was drinking, the other was acting as a friend and designated driver. They got into an altercation with some regulars at the bar, fled when the police were called, and, in their haste to depart the parking lot, did some slight damage. They were detained by the Atlanta Police.

If that had been the end of the story, I would have referred one of them to Employee Assistance for counseling. I might have reprimanded one or both, depending on the facts surrounding the altercation. I certainly would have been inclined to give a break to the designated driver/supportive friend.

Unfortunately, the first thing the two did when they were confronted by the Atlanta Police was to show their badges and identify themselves as off-duty police officers. This led to Atlanta PD phoning one our captains at home, and telling him the miscreants would be not be jailed, if one of us would come and pick them up. The captain quite properly declined, telling Atlanta that we did not see any reason why off duty police officers should be treated differently than anyone else. The officers (and, I am told, the Atlanta officers, as well) were incredulous and indignant.

Soon thereafter, I fired both officer. I took the position that their attempt to use their badges avoid consequences made their conduct job-related, that their inability or unwillingness to accept that they should be held to at LEAST as high a standard of personal conduct as other citizens reflected confusion regarding the distinctions between power, authority, and responsibility.

Can we all agree that any public official who asks, "Do you know who I am?," in order to gain favor, suffers from the same confusion?

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Sat, 06/10/2006 - 7:11pm.

Big deal. He had a couple of glasses of wine. .104 from the reports. Easy to get there with a just 2 drinks. If he flaunted the law, that's why he was arrested. I just want the PTC Police to use common sense, that all I ask. Driving 100 MPH in a 40 MPH zone is a more serious crime than driving 60 in a 55.

I've been going to the shows for over 3 years, and have NEVER had a problem. It's not your average Baptist Church Service, but I enjoy the concerts myself.

Submitted by Question on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 10:37pm.

I did not attend the concert last weekend but I will speak to your comment as to role models... Bernie is a wonderful man, an outstanding city manager, a devoted husband, a loving father and great role model. He and his wife have raised two of the best children in the world, one of which is in Iraq right now while you sit at your stupid computers arguing about his Dad and the choices he made last Friday. Role models? "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone." I am certain that Bernie will pay for his actions (isn't he already) but can we show some respect for the man that he IS?

Submitted by bladderq on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 10:56pm.

I have met and interacted w/ Bernie but did not know all this personal info. I think it is just as unfair that this incident has received so much attention (the mug shot, the reports, etc); as if he had been given special treatment. I hope his job performance is based on the 9 to 5.

Submitted by Firedup on Sat, 06/10/2006 - 9:58am.

I attend concerts at the Frederick Brown Junior Amphitheater and have for several years. I have to ask, what’s going on? Love the acts and I’ve enjoyed the venue’s new look, but who let the drunks out? Maybe that is why so many seats are vacant. I have no problem having a good time, but enough is enough. Some of the obnoxious season ticket holders, especially those who think everyone wants to listen to their drunken rhetoric, need to go. That also applies to some of our local politicians and association members as well (drink up dudes and get the message, you booze you loose!). For you booze hounds that live for the Amphitheater’s Friday and Saturday night drunk fests, you are creating a dangerous environment for everyone concerned (yes, some of us use our golf carts at night). If you drink and drive (golf cart or whatever), this taxpayer expects the cops to put you in jail, period!, regardless of who you think you are. Maybe you just don’t get it! As for the City Manager, he holds a position of respect (can you say higher standard) so he doesn’t need to take that for granted. As for our illustrious Mayor Logsdon and one or more of the city council members, shame on you for not openly expressing support for the law enforcement of this city. Maybe the answer does lie at the Y-Knot Sports Bar (you don’t see many police officers there, do you Mayor). Bottom line, our police officers were placed in a terrible situation, the city manager was violating the law, the city manager was drinking and driving, the city manager went to jail, and the officers did their jobs. Sounds pretty simple to me. By the way, it’s the law! Don’t like it, crawl back under your rock.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Sat, 06/10/2006 - 10:06am.

Obnoxious, drunk and very noisy audiences, especially from the season tickets holders, has been a long standing complaint and problem at the Brown.

Many say they have not been dealt with because of who they are.

It needs cleaned up. And is a good example of why government should not run such facilities. Meaning the politics of who you are versus providing a good nights entertainment to all.

I have heard many say they want to go but will not go as long as things are this way.

Keeping it real and to the core of the issue, not the peripherals.

Submitted by Sailon on Sat, 06/10/2006 - 10:26am.

I used to have a season ticket, had one for several years. I dropped it and haven't returned for two reasons. The talent went downhill fast and the preliminary yap-yap from sponsors and stupid door prizes got irritating to me. The second reason was the one that definately made up my mind: it no longer was enjoyable to me since some patrons insisted on trying to eat and drink in a space not big enough to sit in,(made for teenagers) then when drunk, trying to dance in front of their seat and bumping you incessently. Yelling to people across the theater that I suppose they knew. When alcohol and food were allowed into this place it became the same as a NASCAR event, only worse. They have more room at a car race to act like drunken rednecks. Why is it such a secret that if people drink for 2-3 hours they can't drive. What are they supposed to do with the leftovers if they can't take them home? It is all so false. There is no such thing as a designated driver for 90% of the people.(do you want to go home with a drunken spouse?) Also, if the cops arrest everyone they should, they will be silenced, if they don't arrest anyone, it is a wink-wink situation. Grow up, please.

Submitted by lifelongfayette... on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 5:22pm.

I WILL call you an idiot! You obviously are by the subject of your posting. To suggest it should be legal to operate ANY motorized vehicle while impaired is unbelievably stupid. It doesn't take a high amount of speed or even a heavy vehicle to seriously injure someone....I just hope and pray your family and loved ones never have to encounter an idiot like you on the roadway.
I can only imagine how hard it was for Capt. Pye and Major DuPree to arrest Mr. McMullen. Everyone can make a mistake, but it was obvious this man thought he was entitled to break the law and rules because of his position within the city. GOOD JOB CAPT AND MAJOR!!! Thanks for not showing favortism, especially when it was dealing with the safety of the citizens!!

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Submitted by ManofGreatLogic on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 10:57pm.

Just because I disagree with a law does not mean I disobey it.

I simply don't think it should be the same offense (drinking and carting) as drinking and driving. Until it proves to be a problem, I think it should legal.

That said: I don't drink and drive. Never did. And that does it for me on this subject.

Submitted by Lawdawg on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 5:57pm.

but how is it obvious that he thought he was entitled to break the law? the only comment I saw in the reports that supports that accusation is the "Do you know who I am" comment, which was ill advised. Except for that, the reports show that he cooperated with the officers. I didn't get the feeling that he was throwing his weight around at all. Now, i am not suscribing to the above comment that everybody should drink and drive on carts. i'm merely suggesting that giving someone a DUI, which I think carries up to a year in jail (I don't have the statute in front of me) is an excessive charge for driving 25 feet. Why shouldn't we expect that our officers use their judgment and solve the problem without charging him with a DUI?

Submitted by lifelongfayette... on Wed, 06/14/2006 - 8:01pm.

Also, the only reason the driver only reached 25 feet is because the cops were doing their job and stopped him. Had they let him go, he would have traveled much more than 25 feet with who knows what kind of consequences. I am glad they chose to do the correct thing, THEIR JOB, and stop someone from driving while under the influence of alcohol. The manner in which Mr. McMullen carries himself throughout the court process should reveal just how much favortism he was expecting...he is already off to a good start by refusing the breath test.

Submitted by lifelongfayette... on Wed, 06/14/2006 - 7:58pm.

From what I read in the report, Mr. McMullen did not fully cooperate with the officer because he refused to submit to the breath test. How is that fully cooperating? And, to ask someone if they know who he is CLEARLY shows he was asking for favortism because of "who he is". If he merely wanted to know if the officer knew his name he could have introduced himself. Bottom line-PTC cops saw drunk driver, made an arrest...the court will have the final say.

Submitted by Lawdawg on Sat, 06/10/2006 - 8:05am.

First, i'm pretty sure I understand the law better than you do slick. Second, i look forward to you getting a ticket everytime you are going 46 in a 45 and everytime you make a turn without using your blinker. Even more hilarious will be the ticket your kids get when they pick up empty beer bottles of the side of the road. Don't believe me? Check the PC open container ordinance. It is so broad that a boy scout troop picking up old beer bottles and putting them in a truck or a cart is in violation of the ordinance. But you won't mind will you, after all it is the law right? Enjoy paying those higher insurance rates and fines and cry me a river if it is something more serious.

Submitted by Lawdawg on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 5:08pm.

By their own statements, the PCPD gave this guy a DUI for driving 25 feet in a golf cart because they wanted to treat him like everyone else. This after considering letting the guy call a cab. Good Lord, here is an idea, how about letting everyone you see driving 25 feet in a golf cart that might be impaired call a cab. I doubt that will wreck havoc and destruction down on the social order of Peachtree City and will probably reduce the large and growing amount of animosity the citizens feel towards their police force. This is a bad joke and the officers made the wrong decision. I honestly can't believe they didn't just let the guy get a cab and go home. Maybe they shouldn't get off duty security assignments at the Fred anymore.

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Submitted by muddle on Sat, 06/10/2006 - 5:27am.

I've followed all of the comments on this and, though I am not a PTC resident, I do have an opinion.

I sympathize with groups like MADD. My wife, children and grandchildren are on the road, and there is always the potential that they will encounter a drunk driver.

But this case reminds me of one that my wife's sister had to deal with several years ago. She and her husband were camping in the north Georgia woods. They had chosen a remote campsite near an unpaved forest road, set up their tent, built a fire, and relaxed together with a couple of glasses of wine with plans to spend the night. Just before dark, they got "spooked" by a vehicle that pulled off and parked, with the occupant apparently just watching them. They hurriedly broke camp and headed for an area where more people were camping, to set up there. They rounded a corner and there was a police roadblock QUITE LITERALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WOODS! The stop culminated in a DUI for my brother-in-law. He swears that he wasn't impaired in any way, but the officer smelled the wine on his breath. This is a guy who had never been in trouble in his life and had a clean driving record. If ever there was a time when someone should have been given a break, this was it. He could have let them go ahead another 1/2 mile or so where they had planned to set up camp. Discernment. It calls for discernment on the officer's part.

The issue has become highly politicized. The legal limit has been pushed down and down. This is inevitable. When you have a group lobbying for stricter rules against drinking and driving, what politician wants to resist it? In the next election he'll be castigated as the guy who supports drunks.

Further, public sentiment has followed suit, so that there is now a great deal of public censure and shame. Indeed, there is a widespread assumption that anyone charged with DUI has a "drinking problem."

But unless something else is going on, a person at the current limit of .08 is not impaired. This limit was set in order to put a wide *hedge* between safe driving and impaired driving.

Your city manager blew a level right at 1.0 if I recall. And, yes, he was on a golf cart. I fully expect that he was stable, rational, and in complete control--and knew it. The legal definition of "drunk driving" does not necessarily conform to the reality.

I just seriously doubt that his actions posed a threat to anyone anywhere.

Writing him a ticket ($100?) for open container and calling him a cab would have been an appropriate decision for more discerning officers.


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--Duane Allman

Submitted by bladderq on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 7:55pm.

Hey, how about writing the guy a ticket for open container in the park? Because there is no glory in writing anything but big price tickets. Again, go to court on Wed's. & see the cases our PD bring. They trash the Constitution at every turn (as do all PD's). I had one former officer tell me that it is a big joke to the force and the 1 w/ the biggest fine total at the end of the day wins. I know of no other place where you can get a "courtsey" warning for having a day-time driving light out. But this is such a serious crime that in the entire history of PTC there is ONE cart death (non-CWI) . As I recall all the other serious accidents have been kids careening around corners or running down a hill. Hang in there Bernie. This should not be a life changing event. You were smart not to to the stupid human DUI tricks...any of you out there can say the alphabet backwards sober?

Submitted by RubyBegonia on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 1:17pm.

This new development sounds like a meeting of the minds.
Just my opinion.

Submitted by skyspy on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 9:06pm.

I seriously think you guys would arrest your own grandmother and laugh while you are doing it.

All kidding aside you are all doing a great job, and most of us appreciate everything you do. Thank you for keeping our city safe.
You did the right thing for the innocent citizens of this city, you kept us safe. You did not forget who you truely work for..which would be the citizens...not the city council....not the city work for the tax payers. Thank you for not playing favorites. THANK YOU

Submitted by silverlining on Sat, 06/10/2006 - 10:17pm.

It would be interesting to see how many arrests for DUI there have been at the Amphitheater or parking lot over the years. I think the number now stands at 1. Seems amazing that Bernie shold be the one and only arrest for this. I guess no one else has ever left on a golf cart after drinking at a concert. And you guys say PCPD was just doing their job? Give me a break.

Submitted by Southside on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 9:37pm.

When I first followed this story it sounded like a complete set up. After reading the reports of the police, I'm not so sure.

Although it does appear that the police paid extremely close attention to the city manager's movements of the night, his conduct seems bizare. Although some of the reports appear somewhat structured, the lower ranking officers who seem to not want to get involved in the outcome, paint a picture of a man who had too much to drink. Worse yet a man who was willing to rub it in the face of the police he thought he outranked.

Moral of the story: If you're in a war with the police over their budget don't drive by them with a glass of wine in your hand and frumpled clothing. You're flaunting your position without good legs to stand on.

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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 7:15pm.

Right you are - Don't piss under the tent unless you are sure the people in the tent are on your side. In this case - no, they weren't

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Submitted by fancypants on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 8:39pm.

Thank you for keeping this town safe and treating everybody with the same courtesy and respect, regardless of their position within this city!

I can only imagine how difficult this must have been for all the cops involved. Obviously Mr McMullen was drunk and in no position to operate a vehicle, whether it be a car or a cart.

Let this incidenct take it's course. I'm sure the sobered up Mr McMulle is wishing this would have never happened to begin with.

Submitted by frogger on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 7:59am.

Give me a break.. Don't the cops have anything better to do?

Next, they'll start arresting people on their lawnmowers.

Submitted by PTC32YEARS on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 2:47pm.

There was a time in this city when people actually knew what was expected of them while operating a cart. When you are on the streets, you are suppose to obey all traffic laws like you were driving a car. The paths are no different. My brother was in a cart accident several years ago. He had to have 23 stitches in his knee. This man was drunk and did not need to be behind the wheel of any vehicle, no matter what his position is in this city.

I have not attended any events at the Fred since they started having the concerts. If this is nothing more than middle aged people getting hammered, what is the point?

Submitted by amomof3 on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 12:30pm.

and I certainly DO NOT want someone drunk on a golf cart on these same paths that my kids are on. Way to go PTC Police! I don't care WHO you are, if your drunk, your drunk and should be delt with like everyone else!

Submitted by SandySue on Sat, 06/10/2006 - 7:13am.

Hey amomof3 Have you seen teenagers (kids)driving carts? I would not even bring kids on the paths into this. Do you drug test your kids? If not shame on you, I would be more concerned about a teenager on the path than an adult who is leaving the Fred on a cart. Middle school is not too early to start drug testing. By the way why are your kids out so late to be on the paths after a concert at the Fred?
Just wondering.

Submitted by amomof3 on Sat, 06/10/2006 - 3:32pm.

Excuse me SandySue but my 13 year old is special needs and does not/can not drive a golf cart. No I do not drug test her, she is under supervised care 24/7. I also use these paths to enjoy walking with my 13 year old while I let my two 8 year olds bike. Don’t matter what time I do it because even before a concert, I have seen some already intoxicated golf cart drivers heading to a concert, which is before my kids bedtime if you must know. Heck, I have seen golfers wiz on by after a day of golfing and beer drinking that almost run us off the paths….A DUI on the paths is perfectly fine with me since children use them.
It’s not all about a debate of concert/late night/time, it’s a debate about DUI on a golf cart as well as who this DUI was given to. As for teens on the paths, I do agree with you there. They will come around a curve full speed and don’t give a flip who’s on the other side.

Submitted by DIXIECRAZY73 on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 11:28am.

You have got to be kidding me! What a rediculous comment. It is the police of our county and city to protect us on the cart paths or on the road. I can guarantee that you can get hurt just as much on a cart path by an intoxicated driver. Your comment is so bizarre. I am thankful that our PTCPD are on top of things. I can only imagine how difficult it was to have to arrest him. But when you are wrong, YOU ARE WRONG. Geez, Do you drink and DRIVE? It must be ok for you, but ask someone that has been hit by a DUI driver on the road and on the cart path. No matter how you look at it it is WRONG! THREE CHEERS FOR PTCPD! I praise them for taking there job seriously.

Submitted by bladderq on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 10:14am.

I actually believe they have made that case before. Unless it's a suburban legend, as I remember a fella was cutting grass (Robinson Rd?), had an accident, EMT's come w/ police & they determine he was drunk. True or not...the PTC PD is a bit out of control. Again I say, go to court on Wed. & see the cases they bring.

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Submitted by nuk on Sun, 06/11/2006 - 8:54am.

I remember the Robinson Rd. deal.

I also remember country-singer and notorious drunk George Jones getting arrested for DUI on a lawnmower.

Submitted by bladderq on Sun, 06/11/2006 - 2:04pm.

That is true but he didn't live in PTC. Does anyone know if the PD Chief came from the Nashville area?

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