Awesome, let those property values fall. Maybe all the uptight people will leave and we can actually have a community.

And while were at it, maybe we can export some of the ignorant lazy white people around here and replace them with some hardworking immigrants.

Maybe if people actually saved for retirement they wouldn't be so uptight about their precious property value.

Lets just all agree to hate lazy people and criminals. It does not matter what race you are. I categorically hate lazy people and criminals. I am a criminalist if you will. Lets all get together and declare a war on crime and drugs! Deal? Property value can be a part if your retirement if you only let the right people in (ie the people who are not lazy or criminals) Lets hate them and ban them from our county

I can't agree to hate anyone.

The war on drugs is a joke. Don't get me started on that one.

Really.

I see that some of my own more relevant posts are in this very thread.

I infer from your posts that you and I agree on one thing: people
are people regardless of race.

So where do we go from here? There will certainly be no progess so long as you and I are posturing and looking for a way to outdo each other.

I honestly do not care about racial differences. I believe in one God who has created us all. I think it is up to me to determine how best to act on that belief.

If you trust me at all in this, then join me in thinking through such issues.

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"Every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
--Duane Allman

I agree with you.

I have a very complex perspective on race not that it even matters.

We have what we have and we need to deal with it sooner rather than later. I think the solution will have to be radical and it will be very difficult for both sides.

OK. Good. Let's agree to think through such issues in mutual trust. We may not agree in detail, but that's OK.

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"Every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
--Duane Allman

Can you imagine what this county would be like if we had a national emergency such as a fuel crisis? I am afraid race relations might breakdown somewhat.

This is why I think we need to start building bridges now.

Have you been seen the 5 year energy outlook? Needless to say I am worried.

i checked the welfair line was full of blacks. so who's lazy now?

Fess up DWP33, you haven't ever laid eyes on a "welfare line."

Take your hating and your plantation mentality somewhere else my boy. It ain't welcome here.

It is in most cases with comments like DWP33, that I see a self hate in people like this person. He doesn't care enough to know whether or not a "welfare line" actually exists. And it could be that his own family members or maybe he or she himself has worn out shoes standing one of those lines. Hmmmmmm??????

and yes i have seen one, a while back when i was a kid. We passed by one in downtown jonesboro on the way to look at a job my dad had. Yes it was full of blacks. Has times changed? No. Stop trying to make your self look good by calling me out. Your just like the rest underneath. I dont see you saying anything to other guy, that was metntioning "whites" are lazy.

So how many years are we talking? 10? 20? More?

I think this makes you the lazy one for misrepresenting your initial observation. Your question was "who's lazy now?" and that can't be answered by something you saw a decade ago or more.

GOOD FOR YOU JOHN!!!!! Thank you.

GOOD FOR YOU JOHN!!!!! Thank you.

What DO you think about the comment made stating that "whites are lazy"?

I don't think anyone said "white's" (as in all white people) are lazy. I certainly didn't mean to imply that.

Although many "white" people around here might work hard, it seems that a decent percentage are intellectually lazy. They are happy to live in their own little over simplified world divorce from reality.

The amount of TV people watch makes me sick. I guess I am a little disappointed as I thought PTC would be more close knit / community oriented. Seems that people spend most of their spare time driving or watching TV. This place seems to be seriously lacking in community involvement.

Again I ask... why not a community garden? Is anyone else interested in this?

I feel like my business and my wallet are already a community garden. I work the ground, plant the seed, harvest the crop, and they eat it for me without being grateful.

No thanks. I get tired of doing all the work. Even when it's a volunteer project 80% of the people stand around while the other 20% bust their butts to make it happen. The other 80% are too busy trying to get recognized for their so called "good works". I say screw the community projects and go out on your own and make a difference.

No silly, A community garden is for fun. It isn't a volunteer program. It is a piece of land set aside by the town for people to work together and have fun doing it. It is an activity that the entire family can enjoy. It builds bonds in the community. It isn't at all the way you describe it.

How about you organize a Fayette County Litter Project. Once a month we can get together, socialize, and pick up the garbage that our trash neighbors choose to decorate our roadways with. I would play in that arena and it would make a bigger difference for our community than planting a few squash plants. Then we can pull up all the illegal campaign and real estate signs that are spammed out across the right-of-ways at the same time.

Kohesion, I believe there is some type of community garden near the Fayetteville library. I suppose the library could give you more information. I don't know if you have children, but the Scout programs (boys and girls) are run entirely by parent volunteers (at the county level). In fact I would like to give a "shout-out" (write-out?) to Julie Saul, Janine Cleary, Debbi Roth and all the other mothers (too many to list) that spent all week (not including prep time) making last week's day camp so wonderful. Meals on Wheels is another wonderful way to get involved in your community.

What do I contribute to the community ?

I work hard; I generate considerable wealth and pay extraordinary taxes.

This allows me to fund all of your social programs and to give such worthy recipients as "Congressman" Lynn Westmoreland a well-deserved raise.

Oh, I am not saying you don't help. Keep buying those lottery tickets. It's helping with Pre-K.

P.S. For Kohesian and those Georgia high school grads, please note the above correct usage of an apostrophe. It's not simply "when you feel like it."

It is hard to take your correction serious when you can't even spell my handle correctly.

It is the English word Cohesion spelled the Dutch way. Just switch the C for a K. It isn't that hard, I promise.

That makes two that have recognized my typo while creating their own typo. Oh this is just too funny. This board affords much entertainment.

You go too far. The desire of some to have constant conversation and intermingling is a part of their heritage, in many cases. The desire to "show off" verbally is ingrained. (Other heritages do it with wealth). They must express themselves often and loud which is totally acceptable to a like kind, but not to "closer to the vest" people. This is something we need to learn to understand better. Growing a garden isn't what is important: being there and socializing is important. If nothing grows due to lack of effort, so what.

Yes. Someone said whites are lazy. That someone was you. Your exact words were "maybe we can export some of the ignorant lazy white people around here". That statement says that whites are lazy. How smart does someone have to be to understand that? If you were half as intellectual as you vainly attempt to sound you would also know that an apostrophe in front of the letter "s" on the end of a word shows possession. You would also know that things that are owned are EXported & people are DEported.
Nice try, but I've read enough from you to be convinced that you are running BS Central from your computer.

Actually, I recently finished reading "Eats, shoots and leaves" an excellent book on grammer.

Sorry, I don't exactly proof read for grammer, especially when I am responding to silly posts or silly people. This is an internet forum, a rapid exchange of ideas. This is not formal writing.

If you are going to correct my grammer you might want to get your tenses right before you try to find my typos. Your posts are consistently poorly written. They are choppy and don't flow well. Even if you had perfect grammer your writing would still lack refinement. You see writing is more than just following grammatical rules, writing is art which requires some creative abilities.

Normally, I wouldn't say anything as an internet forum is considered non-formal; however, as you obviously have a higher standard for me, perhaps you should pluck the proverbial log from your own eye before picking at the speck in mine. In case you were not aware, this double grammatical standard is a classic example of what is commonly known as hypocracy.

While I occasionally may make a typo as you have discovered, I think that you will find my grammer as a whole to be above average. I do not claim for myself exemplary grammer as my forte is computer engineering and I devote relatively little time to grammatical persuits. I can not be an expert in every field so you will kindly accept my apologies for merely possessing above average grammatical abilities.

It appears you are confused. I actually meant "export", not "deport". I do know the difference and the word I chose to use was export. Export is more demeaning than deport but apparently this nuance is over your head.

The post was intended to be rather tounge-in-cheek. I see that any higher humor is wasted on you entirely.

Nice try

Your post above confirms everything my post stated about you. Don't forget the point of that post. You said whites are lazy.

"Grammer" is actually supposed to be spelled "grammar".
Sorry, I just couldn't resist after reading the above.

Okay, you got me. There were 4 words spelled wrong in my post. Grammar, tongue, pursuits, and hypocrisy. Pretty good for an engineer not using spell check at 2:00am. As I said, my grammar (and spelling) are not exemplary, just above average.

Perhaps you should pack your happy little fingers up and move back to your precious Washington DC. If you do not like this community, leave. By your comments, you are not welcome here anyway.

I am an agent of change and I have already started infiltrating your community. Think of me as a missionary.

I'll consider this.

But until further notice, I am beginning to think of you as an idiot.

Please provide reason for my thinking otherwise.

"Every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
--Duane Allman

Not going to happen, muddle.

You have obviously noted all he says is agenda driven. Facts do not matter.

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Keeping it real and to the core of the issue, not the peripherals.

You can think of me any way you like.

I do pick fights from time to time. I like to make people think. It is entertaining to argue with people who can't think in a straight line or are intellectually dishonest. (not saying you are one of those people)

I will admit to being a nuisance.

A missionary for what? Tearing down a community that has been here for several years? We have been fine without your type for a long time now. I guess you are familiar with White Flight. Look at Union City. That place used to be a booming retail center. Now look at it. Infiltrating my community?? I guess we need to hire more police officers then.

This is hilarious. Already I am tearing down the "community" (if you can call a bunch of McMansions whose occupants participate minimally a community) I wonder if I am on the blacklist yet. Oh and apparently I am a criminal to.

That's right, if you disagree with PTC old guard, you MUST be a criminal. This is the arrogance / ignorance I speak of.

A booming retail center. This is my personal Utopia. I want to live in a booming retail center (read strip mall)

Actually, I would like to start the community garden back up. How's that for tearing apart the community. Who was it who discontinued the garden anyway?

That's okay, the religious people didn't like Jesus either.

Jesus was the son of God, you sir are not!

Just what do you contribute to our community? Are you a volunteer? Who have you helped?

How stupid are you to move to a place that you obviously dislike. Should have picked Little Five Points or Virgina Highlands to be around like minded progressives.

Sorry, you landed in Ossie and Harriet turf. Quiet, peaceful, uneventful, until today's shooting. which is an exception.

Have fun banging your head against the wall trying to make the other Est. population in July 2004: 33,810 change to your liking.

Here's some diversity stats for you junior.

Median resident age: 37.5 years
Median household income: $76,458 (year 2000)
Median house value: $190,900 (year 2000)

Races in Peachtree City:

White Non-Hispanic (85.1%)
Black (6.1%)
Hispanic (3.7%)
Japanese (1.5%)
Two or more races (1.4%)
Other race (0.9%)
Asian Indian (0.7%)
Chinese (0.6%)
American Indian (0.6%)

Ancestries: German (17.0%), Irish (14.7%), English (14.6%), United States (9.1%), Italian (5.9%), French (4.8%).

For population 25 years and over in Peachtree City

High school or higher: 96.2%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 46.2%
Graduate or professional degree: 15.1%
Unemployed: 2.3%
Mean travel time to work: 30.0 minutes
For population 15 years and over in Peachtree City city

Never married: 18.9%
Now married: 69.7%
Separated: 1.2%
Widowed: 3.9%
Divorced: 6.4%
7.9% Foreign born (2.9% Asia, 2.3% Europe, 1.5% Latin America).

Population change in the 1990s: +12,329 (+64.0%).

Thanks but I pulled the stats before I came here. I chose PTC over several other communities. Maybe you were trying to impress me with the stats. Sorry, not impressed.

Yes, I am a volunteer... many times over. My wife also. Who have I helped? Oh come now, you don't expect me to blow my idenity that easily do you? I gave you plenty of clues as to who I am, figure it out yourself.

Oh yeah, like 100% of PTC is on the same page as you. You really think that?

I don't dislike PTC. I love the trails. Especially handy since I gave up driving. (mostly) There are plenty of intelligent like minded people here. I just like to pick on the outragously silly ones.

Uh.. that Jesus bit was what we call an analogy.

Fernalite, I filled in the blanks with Rats and it worked out perfectly. I assumed that is what you were referring to since the blog was about Tinseltown and their failure to meet sanitary standards. I find it so amazing that when a serious blog gets started, somehow we end up with some supercilious person delivering a furtive harangue of their "sectarian" beliefs. While we are at it let's get __________ to admit to the Kennedy Assassination and blame _______ for global warming, and rising gas prices. Talk about digressing….. I really would like to see a “problem” in Fayette county been viewed without the myopic, bigoted, and dissident views of “some” members of this website. God forbid if I stereotype……..

You must have encountered an entirely different group of __________ than those who live in my neighborhood. My _______________ neighbors are polite, courteous, and interesting to talk to.

As for plummeting property values, that may well be a self-fulfilled prophecy. After all, the value of a home (or anything) is what someone out there is willing to pay for it. If enough people *say* that an area is less valuable because of demographic changes, then, by God, so be it. There is no metaphysical principle, inscribed somewhere in the universe, that sets the value of a home.

As for me, I have __________ neighbors right next door. They moved here when my --------- neighbors moved out. I've met them; I like them. So I plan to stick around....at least, as long as my ________ neighbors will tolerate me.

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"Every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
--Duane Allman

Well since your not from here I'll fill you in. Drive through Forest Park, Lake City, Riverdale, and any where in that area and what you would of found 20 years ago was Fayette County. We don't want to give your community up because a bunch or _______ children want to run around stealing and being rude. Yes, property value is in the eye of the beholder. Here's a good for instance for you. We had some more of your ________ move in our neighborhood and the first thing they did was sell 2 cars out of there front yard. There goes $10-20k. I would never sterotype. But for the love of god how many times does the sterotype have to happen before it becomes more of a routine and less of just a sterotype.

Many on here would likely suspect you of racism for your remarks. I don't know you. For all I know, you are as racist as the day is long.

But I do not take your comments by themselves to be sufficient to indict. After all, suppose that it is just *true* (for whatever reason and explanation) that some generalizations hold of a culture or race. Simply noticing it and, perhaps, commenting on it, does not make one a racist. It would take more for me to charge you.

My place of work is in a community on the S. side of Atlanta that has undergone profound change over the past 20 years or so. It is now almost exclusively __________. Over the years, my co-workers, who once lived close to work, moved south--mostly into Fayette County. The immediate area is not particularly desirable. There are bars on the doors and windows of homes and businesses. Crime in the area is much, *much* higher than it was. There is gang activity. One evening, a shot was fired through the window of one of our buildings where people were working.... People at work observe that it was never like this in, say, the 70s. So I understand much of what you are saying.

Also, you observe that I'm "not from here." I take it that you have gleaned that from some of my other posts. However, I grew up in Florida in the 60s, and I could tell you some stories about racial interraction that might give yours a run for the money.

But, still, I come back to my experience with my neighbors. I've been here for nine years. When I moved in, there were three _____ families at the end of the cul de sac. All are still there. They are hard-working, friendly neighbors. I've noticed some **very** healthy vital signs. One example: a few weeks ago, the two teens in one of the _________ families were seen "sneaking" around, acting **very** suspiciously. Were they stealing hubcaps? Nope. It was their mom and dad's anniversary. They had gone out for balloons, flowers, etc., and were running back and forth from the car trying to set things up for a nice surprise.

I think that people like my neighbors are on target with their values. The families are intact, with dads who are there for their kids. I see them take their families to church. ______ kids in their teens, whom I've now known since they were in grade school, wave as they walk by from the bus--or even stop to talk.

Further, I find that as I interact with the increasing number of_________ in local businesses, my friendly overtures are reciprocated. In short, I've given people the benefit of the doubt, and they have proven to be striking exceptions to the stereotypes. Have you tried showing genuine respect and friendliness?

Is it **possible** that the farther we get away from past injustices and American apartheid, the more natural and healthy integration will be and the less anti-social behaviors will be perpetuated? Could it be that the fate of Clayton and S. Fulton counties is a lingering consequence of the pre-civil rights days? Might many of the families who are fleeing from Clayton or S. Fulton counties simply want to be good citizens and neighbors? And is it possible that our resistance and resentment only encourages the very behaviors that you and I have both observed?

Just thinking....

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"Every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
--Duane Allman

Bottom line is, stereotypes and generalizations can be placed upon anyone by everyone. I don't expect us all to join hands and start singing kumbiyah (sp?) but let's at endeavor not to make rude manners and lack of scruples the sole domain of a particular race. And I would never race-bait, I would only debate.

If there isn't a problem then how does anyone know what a ___________ is. Whats really funny is that all I have to do is point out a few facts and you people automatically jump up and know who I'm talking about. Why don't you fill in the blanks with "youths". Who's the racist now.

Please read me again---more carefully this time. I think there is more subtlety to my comments than your reply acknowledges.

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"Every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
--Duane Allman

just really nieve. Theres no doubt in my mind that there are good black citizens out there. My point is, do you ever go into a all white subdivision and see bars on the windows? No!!! Are there apartments that are all white, that you are scraed to go in with a police escort? No!!! Are there black nhoods and apartments that your scared to go in? Plenty. Riverdales has plenty. Is it our fault for noticing? no, but why are we blamed for rasicm, and sterotyping. WAke up people, stop being nieve. We dont want that in Fayette, but its coming more and more every day cause of scared or nieve people

Perhaps you should not post on this topic any further. You simply give credence to the belief that people of your opinion aspire to have jobs where they can have their own names printed on their shirts.

As I replied to the other poster, please actually READ what I've said. I've allowed enough in the direction of your observations to put me at odds with the more politically correct among us.

I grew up in the deep south in the 60s. My dad was a cop in S. Florida, where he patrolled a predominantly black area when there were race riots (I remember his riot helmet that he brought home).
Then, when I went to junior and senior high, I encountered racial hatred from my black classmates. One day in particular I had the misfortune of finding myself alone in an isolated part of the campus where five black students decided that it was time to beat the $hit out of a honky hippy surfer type. Don't tell me that I am naive (wait: "nieve").

My argument is that **people are people**, and that the best explanation for the anti-social behavior that you and I have both observed is social--not racial. Is it ever justified? Of course not. But it is a whole lot easier to be virtuous when you have been blessed with the right kinds of role models and circumstances.

You see, I have no reason to doubt that my neighbors' kids are college bound and that they will go on to be loving and responsible parents and productive citizens. And a part of the reason--perhaps the *main* reason--is that a cycle that was likely put in motion generations ago by **yours and my** ancestors is either broken or is in the process of being broken.

Good God. Think about an overview of "race relations" on this continent over the past, say, 300 years. When one race holds another as slaves, and then only slowly and grudgingly releases its grip, denying basic human rights for as long as possible, is it not reasonable to expect a lingering and smoldering resentment? Suppose I've been slapping you on a daily basis for several years. One day, I see the light and I tell you that you are no longer to be slapped. Is it your fault if you don't immediately behave as though nothing ever happened? And here we are talking about the complexities of entire races and generations of races.

I'm finding that the more I resolve to live in harmony with my black neighbors the more harmony there is. Honest to God, try it. Next time you go out and you interact with the black clerk at the grocery, exchange pleasantries as though you really *mean* it. You might be surprised at the reaction.

Let me try this language. Let's call the hoodlums that you and I have both noticed "old school." I argue that there is vital "new school" thinking--and I see it in my good neighbors--that, among people of good will, is likely to lead to much better relations.

Are you a person of good will?

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"Every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
--Duane Allman

I knew it was only a matter of time before slavery came up, of course you can not expect someone to change overnight but that was 300 yrs ago don't you think it's time to stop playing the slavery card, everytime I turn around someone brings it up. Guess what I assure you that nobody living in Fayetteville today owned slaves guess what my grandparents did not own slaves nor my great grandparents, hey wait a second nobody in my family owned slaves because they were poor as dirt, but just because I am white I have to constanly hear about slavery it's getting kind of old.

Clearly, I am wasting my time here. Why do I continue?

Look, you need to *read* what I wrote before you reply.

Yes, I mentioned "slavery," but this was in the larger context of oppression. Blacks in the 1940s were not slaves, but they were most certainly second citizens. Those folks are still with us and their children and grandchildren know their stories. Forgiveness is graceful, but it comes hard.

And your comments are utterly **irrelevant** to the more positive claims that I have asserted about my current neighbors and encounters with blacks in the area.

I'm **more** than prepared to argue this point vigorously and extensively.

Let me repeat: I ******see***** the problems that you folks have observed. I ****despise**** the sort of gang culture that may be drifting into my area from other counties. I ****recognize***** that there are problems with crime in Riverdale, etc., that are non-existent in other areas. Yes, yes, yes.

But this stuff does not define African American culture. And,in my own experience, given the benefit of the doubt, newcomers to Fayette just want the best for their kids, and they want to get them away from the negative factors that you and I have observed.

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"Every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
--Duane Allman

Funny the black people that grew up here and worked side by side with my grandparents oh yes my grandparents worked side by side with those people and picked cotton plowed fields for some of the more upperclass people of that time, my grandfather has a third grade education because he had to work to help his father support the other 8 kids in the house now hearing some of my grandfather's stories I would say they were second class citizens. But back to my point the people that worked with my grandfather don't hold a grudge they are some of the nicest people I have ever met, and in all my years I've never heard any of those people bring up slavery or anything to that affect, and be more than glad to introduce you to those people and let you speak to them, it only comes up because people keep bringing it up, to make a long story short I can hold a grudge because my grandparents worked for pennies a day ok so now someone owes me something.

You're simply off on your own trajectory away from anything that I care to discuss.

Look, my own position is consistent with saying to people, "That's in the past. Get over it!" I'm not out to justify any current anti-social behavior (only to offer a possible explanation based upon human nature).

My aim is to suggest that, given a full opportunity in our society, there is a burgeoning black community that is more than ready than to move ahead in a way that does not involve making excuses or blaming others for past mistakes. I think this is the sort of outlook that I perceive in my very neighbors.

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"Every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
--Duane Allman

then come back and talk to me. Go pull the crime statistics in the metro atlanta area and tell me who commits the most crimes? Wanna bet the deed to your house that its blacks. Like said before, there are plenty of good black people. I'd say 15-20% of the race are good people.
Now go read past articles of the paper. Guy tackles robber. What color was the theif? Black!!! Pizza Hut manager robbed on a sunday morning. What color was the suspect? Black!!! North Fayette teacher fired for growing marijuana. What color was she? Black!!! One of my favorites that I dont think made the paper. An incident that happend at Sara Harp Minter. A black sub tacher is caught slamming a students head on a desk repeatetly. Do you need more muddle or do you get the picture.

Yes, and your average serial killer is a middle-aged white male. And I've noticed on the Dateline series, "To Catch a Predator," that the majority of men who show up hoping to teach a thing or two to a 14-year-old "reflect light" about the way I do. Let's see.... a black teacher slams a student's head on the desk. Yes, and a white teacher takes a 12 year old boy into bed with her--and bears his child.

There are indeed crime-ridden areas in and around Atlanta. And I'm not blind to the fact that many of them are predominantly black. In another post, I've considered some possible explanations for why that is so.

But why are you citing such statistics? What in the world does it have to do with my having pointed out that I appreciate my black neighbors and do not plan to pull up stakes any time soon?

Are you suggesting that, overcome by the primal urges of his race, the black man across the street will eventually hold me up at gunpoint in my front yard and abscond with my fertilizer spreader? Are his kids--both in high school or recently graduated--merely luring me in when they wave or stop to chat? Is it just in their blood to stick it to you when your back is turned?

But you are very gracious in your allowance that "15-20% of the race are good people." Good God, man. Until now I was withholding the racist slur.

I'll bet the blacks that you encounter at the shopping centers are all rude to you, and this just goes to reinforce your view. And I'll bet can explain it: they are not blind to your racism, which you wear on your sleeve. I'm finding that, generally speaking, people are people, and, white or black, genuine friendliness and respect is met with the same.

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"Every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
--Duane Allman

Whats all the complaining about? After viewing the concession area First hand, i must say that i have not once seen any rat feces or urine anywhere since insepections months ago!!!! That theater is much cleaner than it was with the old management. Obviously that lady had an employee make her mad or something of that kind, and now shes marking off points for what she THINKS is feces and uring? Please... Point it out to me, because it probably isnt anything more than a burnt popcorn kernel and some yellow buttered topping! Ridiculous. She needs to get a grip. Or better yet, someone else needs to inspect the theater.

Tinseltown is the nastiest movie theater I have ever been to. It should definately be shut down....the "trash" that has been frequenting the theater is to blame, along with the lacksadaisical management and employees.

Here is Carmike's corporate info....

Cinemark USA, Inc.
3900 Dallas Parkway, Suite 500
Plano, TX 75093-7865

Telephone: 1-800-246-3627

http://www.cinemark.com/contactinfo.asp

This theater needs stricter management in keeping the morons and animals (no pun intended) out!

I've sent a complaint on their website email form. You should too. Tell them there is a boycott brewing and that people in the community are fed up.

http://www.cinemark.com/contactinfo.asp

(Best if the entire Pavillion was bulldozed and the area allowed to return to its natural state.)

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"Every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
--Duane Allman

i remember before the pavillion was built old man yancey farmed the area and sold produce, then the folks wanted to build a mall,
but no all the little know it alls said a mall would bring in crime that it should be a shopping center not a mall , what a bunch of idiots, they had signs on new hope and 314 to stop the mall for
the safty of our children. again idiots where are they now
they moved because of the crime???? i dont know
i want to move the county is taxing me out of house and home and i get nothing in return
i bet you think im mad or crazy i just dont understand how they can contnue taxing me and i recieve no service for the tax at least not one worthy of the amount of taxes i pay, give us a higher homestead
reduction. ok im thru for now

i did complain to the corp office over the phone and
the concern was not there i do not believe it went any futher then the phone.

Thanks for the information, but good luck. I contacted them after I discovered their score of 50 and never received any response of any kind.

Apparently lack of concern starts at the top of that corporation and runs downhill along with the deposits by the rodents. You'd better hope you don't eat the popcorn off of the bottom.

Dana Kinser

You must also be the kind of manager who would let people shout out on phones, talk loud, throw chicken bones, try to clean up the place three times and fail, and bother everybody with loud ill manners? Come on, the manager and all employees know what is going on and their boss lets them get away with running it that way. No patron should have to inform the "manager" about such things, he knows already. Apparently they need an armed cop in that place for the rowdies, and to shut it down until typhoid "Mary" (the building) is torn apart and cleaned with fire hoses and acid. What kind of "animals" go to the movies there, and why do parents drop off their kids? Is this more Riverdale overflow? The movies are horrid anyway. It is a baby sitter place for some.

And this is the same manager that has let rats roam at will? I wouldn't expect much out of them. Go to another theater.

Dana Kinser

I can wait on the DVD without any trouble at all.

Does anybody know if the Newnan Theaters have a higher score?

Carmike Theater in Newnan scored a 92 on it's last inspection which was December 1, 2005. It scored a 93 on it's prior inspection.

Coweta County restaraunt inspection scores can be found at this address:

http://www.coweta.ga.us/Resources/restaurantinspections.html

Dana Kinser

I hate to be run off from Fayetteville but the fact is Newnan's theatre's are cleaner and the crowds are less rowdy. So we drive the extra miles.

This is so unethical. I have spent hundered of dollars at Tinseltown! I am outraged. I was just there this Monday....seeing DaVinci Code....and had POPCORN, and a drink! YUCK!!! I thought for sure they had their concession problems under control. I guess not. If they can't get the food situation under control, I seriously doubt they will ever get the other annoyances at that theater under control, such as: people who jump from movie to movie, pay to see 1 movie, and end up seeing 3-4, and the cell phone thing. Those walkie-talkie cell phones are especially ANNOYING. During DaVinci Code, some clown was laughing, talking, and using the WALKIE-TALKIE phone! BEYOND RUDE! I won't be going back for sure. I am taking my kids to Newnan if they want to see a movie. Whatever happened to the nice 1 movie community theaters, or the drive-ins? Does anyone remember that? Why did they go away?

I've been to the Starlight Six Drive-In off Moreland Ave. in Atlanta the past two Saturday nights - caught da Vinci Code and Over the Hedge - $6 a person, can stay for the double feature if you want - kids under 10 free - and you can bring whatever snacks and refreshments you want.

It is awesome and with a one year old who is typically asleep by 8 p.m., it is a relatively inexpensive night at the movies.

It takes us about 25 minutes to get there and we live very close to Tinseltown.

Speaking of which, why don't they just get Front Row joe and Popcorn Penny to get rid of the rats? They look like a couple of mousers.

Hey the Starlight place sounds really great, but.....Do you feel safe? I don't know anything about that area.

It's a weird neighborhood once you get off 20 and head the five or six miles (??) to the theater and my wife and i comment on it every time. You have houses being renovated that look nice, next to crappy looking buildings. The best discrepancy is a really nice, modern looking plaza with a Brusters and a nice restaurant and cafe located across from a beat down looking Blimpie. It's the way a lot of Atlanta looks now as people are moving back in and bringing their money. My friends live in Kirkwood, the other direction from the drive in, and they are seeing the same thing.
But you are driving through, no worries and only two or three stoplights. It is definitely not the worst neighborhood in Atlanta.
As for the drive in itself, I feel very safe. The entire crowd appears to be made up of families and you'd have to be a dumb robber willing to pay money to get in to rob someone and then you'd have a heckuva time getting out anything close to quick.
It's nice that it's a well-kept secret but I'd hate to see it go the way of other drive-in's.

Let's quit tippy toeing around this issue! It seems the majority of postings here are pointing to the common thread that Black youth are responsible for the quality decline at T-Town. Am I wrong here? Are we saying that we only notice the obnoxious behavior in those of other races? Movie etiquette and manners in general are just heading down the proverbial toilet. And as far as determining the safety of Starlight Drive the old axiom of life applies - if you act like a victim, chances are you'll be one.

In which posting did you see a reference to "Black youth"?
Please clarify.

"What kind of "animals" go to the movies there, and why do parents drop off their kids? Is this more Riverdale overflow?"

I can pull a couple more if you wish.

OK - So you are saying that "Black youth" are "animals" & "Riverdale overflow". Please feel free to pull anything else you wish. I'm sure the entire county can already feel a swift tug @ their legs.
Further more; You can take your race baiting tripe & eat it backwards. The intelligent people of Fayette County will not buy it.

The intelligent people of Fayette County may not buy it, but let me tell you the intelligent people see what is happening. Recently myself and my wife went to a movie and toward the end of the movie a black family walked in discussing the movie they had just seen so that means they bought tickets for one movie and decided to see another,my parents go to the movies every saturday night and see this practice take place everytime they go, and guess what it is always Black Youth so I guess it starts at a young age, when parents show their kids it is ok to buy one ticket and see two or three movies then you are showing them it is ok to steal, so if you do not like being called animals then do not act like animals, and as far as Riverdale Overflow just drive through the pavilion and see how many car tags you see that say Clayton or Fulton and you tell me it is all but obvious.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

of Fayette county will notice it. Come on, drive down north 85 between apple b's and the pavilion on around 9pm-1am on a fri sat night. You see underage black kids acting like hoodlums up and down the street. Dont dare go to the movies. Its a hoodfest up there. Stop beating around the bush people and open your eyes. Theres was little to no crime here befor Clayton and Fulton discovered this place. Thanks a lot Pavilion

I grew up in that area, and went to the orginal drive in that was there. Starlights site is listed below. 6 Screen! Looks pretty good. The area is not the best, but it's like he said, "who's going to pay to come in and rob you." Noticed on thier web site that they have a flea market on the weekends.

http://www.starlightdrivein.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=main.map