Gay marriage finally gives GOP an issue

Tue, 05/23/2006 - 4:54pm
By: Letters to the ...

The governor and other state Republicans must be very happy indeed about their recent loss. Yes, they’ve got to be beaming at the recent ruling from that “activist” judge (not just a woman, but a black woman to boot) concerning the Georgia version of the “Defense of Marriage Act.” She threw it out on a technicality. They say they’ll appeal, but really? Why not re-word it to comply with the judge’s ruling and put it on the ballot this November? After all, President Bush has said he’d like to see the “Defense of Marriage Act” added to the U.S. Constitution.

The Defense of Marriage Act: What a windfall for the GOP. And coming so soon after the last election. Be still my GOP heart. I guess those fat baby ads will be replaced by “issue” ads about gay marriage, activist judges, etc.

The memory of the Rebel stars and bars, the slimy gambling connection, our 38th-place ranking in education, our failed Department of Family and Children’s services, ah, the list goes on, but it will all be forgotten once the new and improved gay marriage” referendum for 2006 is inked to the ballots.

Man, that was a close one for the GOP. (Now shush about a referendum on inter-racial marriage, we have 2008 to think about.)

They really think you’re that stupid, that you’ll fall for it again. They think you will forget their inaction and lack of results if only you will re-hate everything gay. It worked once, it’ll work again.

I wasn’t surprised that the gay marriage referendum passed here, but I was curious about why. We’ve been told that marriage is “under attack” in the United States. That “activist judges” and a far left liberal gay anti-family anti-Christian radical movement are going to overthrow our values. We need to further codify (the fact that it is already codified in state law isn’t good enough, it must be elevated to the state constitution) the prohibition on gay marriage.

Now, just so you know, I’m not gay (not that there’s anything wrong with it). I’m a heterosexual married white male. I have children, a job (or two), house, cars, bills, etc. My wife works. Lo and behold, she and I sometimes argue about stuff: The kids, the car, house, bills, money, TV, food, etc.

But in all our arguing we’ve never fought about gay rights or gay marriage. Nope, that issue just isn’t a “stressor” to our marriage. I guess we’re not informed enough about the attack our marriage is under to get riled about it.

Do you and your spouse argue about it? Is it stressful to your marriage? Is putting it in the state Constitution going to improve your marriage?

However, there are some things we’re riled about. There are some things that are stressful to our marriage and maybe your marriage as well.

Would your marriage be less stressful; could our representatives better “defend” your marriage, if you, your spouse and children had better, less expensive medical insurance, a more secure retirement, some job security and protection, better schools, less crime, less violence on the tube, an alternative energy plan, cleaner water?

Do you work for Delta or GM? Could our representatives better “defend” your marriage if they did something about outsourcing?

How about corporate America’s abuse of bankruptcy laws? Now remember, seven out of 10 CEOs still have a defined benefit retirement plan. Do you?

Would they be “defending” your marriage if they would do more to help you afford college for your kids? I’m sure you can add some of your own concerns to the list.

Why isn’t the governor using his bully pulpit to address our dismal Department of Family and Children’s Services’ performance? That sounds like a great cause for a “compassionate conservative.”

What about our 38th-place ranking in education? Can you believe that the number one state in education is that liberal, gay-marriage-allowing Massachusetts? Home of Teddy Kennedy. And Massachusetts has the lowest divorce rate too (Georgia is 34th)? It can’t be so; the liberal mainstream media must be slanting the results.

So, why aren’t Republican politicians all over addressing these issues? They own Congress. They own the state assembly. Yes, yes, we do have Lynn Westmoreland fighting for a flag burning amendment. At least we have that going for us and our families.

And even though we already have a Border Patrol agency, under the Department of Fatherlan ... um, I mean, Homeland Security, I guess we’re going to have the National Guard on the Mexican border, after they all get back from Iraq, and get all their stuff back from Iraq too.

So, not to worry. Remain calm, all is well. Our marriages will be much better once we get this thing into the Constitution.

I just wish they wouldn’t call it “The Defense of Marriage Act.” Be honest with it; call it what it is. How about “The Hate Gays and Ignore Our Record Act”?

Thomas Finnegan
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Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 8:19am.

It will never be found Constitutional, no matter how many times we vote on it.

Get on with more important things, like reducing taxes, etc.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 10:13am.

Unfortunately, there are too many liberals and it will not pass.

But, it is important. Gay agendas need to be stopped, permanently.

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Submitted by my2cents on Wed, 06/07/2006 - 1:39am.

Very well said!!

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Wed, 06/07/2006 - 7:27pm.

There are many issues that indeed need addressing.

One of those is the amoral and crumbling foundation of our country. The push of allowing gay marriages is one symptom of that disease sweeping our country.

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Submitted by my2cents on Wed, 06/07/2006 - 11:28pm.

What I keep hearing from you is that you think being gay is wrong and immoral. I don't have a problem with you feeling that way, I respect that. So guess what, don't marry another man. How does it affect you if two committed men want the same rights as a male and female? You've got to be kidding me if you think that allowing gay marriage is going to be the downfall of our society...I can't help but laugh. Have you checked the divorce rate lately?? Over 50% of 1st marriages fail, over 60% of 2nd marriages fail, and over 70% of 3rd marriages fail...guess you're going to blame that on the gays too right??

Submitted by my2cents on Wed, 06/07/2006 - 11:21pm.

You really need to get a life PTC Guy. Maybe step out of the peach-pit and into the real world for half a second.

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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 8:07am.

Mankind and nature have looked down on queer culture and sex since the beginning of mankind. That happens when something doesn't quite fit into the circle of life properly. It's only in the last few years that the queer community has somehow fabricated a mindset that being gay is normal and that we should look up to the the queer community as being enlightened and that they are the true pillars of our communities. If you choose to live the queer lifestyle then you have the freedom and choice to do so. But keep it out of our faces if you will. The rest of us are "trying" to raise proper families with young men and women that will fight for and uphold the culture and freedoms that have made this country great so even people like you can exist and be protected.


Submitted by my2cents on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 11:38am.

"Mankind and nature have looked down on queer culture and sex since the beginning of mankind"...afraid not my dear. You need to know what you're talking about before you open your mouth sweetie.

"Bisexuality is the norm among male chimps (check out Jane Goodall's books). Effectively a male chimp forms a long-term partnership with another male (which includes sex at times). National Geographic special, "The New Chimpanzees" which aired September 6, 1995 - Diverse and frequent hetero- and homosexual contact occurs among the animals. . . . Not only does homosexual behavior exist in nearly every species of every order of animal known to science (a fact demonstrated repeatedly by uncounted studies beginning with Konrad Lorenz, the father of modern zoology) but as one ascends the evolutionary ladder from less sophisticated creatures to hominids, homosexual activity increases in frequency. Bruce Bagemihl, who wrote the book "Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity," says homosexual behavior has been documented in at least 450 species."

Sorry, I hate to tell you this...but you're so ignorant. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time and energy debating with someone who's not informed or intelligent.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 8:22am.

Yep, Git Real.

Even at its worst, homosexuality was never afforded the status of marriage in history. It was always looked on as sexual activity other than the proper man/woman relationship.

The arguments about divorce point to other problems and issues of a society in decay. All are signs seen over and over in history of societies and cultures in collapse.

But they do nothing to lessn the status and place of marriage and true family. Truth remains the truth no matter how often people violate the truth.

I have a life. What a tired and worn out argument for those who have no other base to put an argument upon.

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Submitted by my2cents on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 11:25am.

My arguement is that gay people who chose to be in a monogomous committed relationship deserve the same rights as straight people. You may not agree with being gay because it's against your religion or for a number of other reasons...fine, you don't have to agree with it. But you and people like Git Real can't force your ideas of right and wrong on other people. If you think it's wrong, don't do it...it's not that hard of a concept. Equal treatment isn't too much to ask, but then again I'm probably talking to someone who wouldn't have wanted females or black people to be able to vote either. You keep referring to "history"...guess what, it's 2006, not 1906 which is where you seem to be stuck.

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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 2:31pm.

So it's ok if you force your ideas on me but not for me to force mine upon you. I don't think you get it. The issue is here is that your forcing me to change and adapt to an unnatural lifestyle that has been shunned for thousands of years and has ultimately resulted in the demise of former great societies.

I don't want my daughters to have your agenda forced on them. In regards to equal treatment you have the same protections as all Americans do. In regards to the marriage issue...well hell no we're not going to agree. For me to agree with you on the marriage issue would be like you agreeing that a man can marry his dog and expect Poochie to have the same benefits as everyone else. And just because it's 2006 doesn't make something right that was wrong in 1906. That's silly. And don't give me that crap about females or blacks voting. I will fight for my daughters right to vote and yours too. Keep your perversion to yourself and stop excusing it by labeling me with hate.


Submitted by my2cents on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 3:32pm.

Git Real, I think you're really over-rating your importance with me. "The issue is here is that your forcing me to change"...I'm not forcing, or even asking you to change anything. I feel sorry for you. It must be absolutely terrible to be filled with so much hate. Oh, and thanks for the laugh with the dog analogy. I knew it was just a matter of time until someone would resort to that ignorant comment. Have a nice night Smiling

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Submitted by Git Real on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 8:29am.

Why would I think that I'm important to you? Filled with so much hate? Because I stand for what has been the moral norm for thousands of years? Once again...stuff the hate stuff. If I hated you I'd take you out. I disagreee with you and think your sick and you call that hate? And what is so sick about the dog analogy. I know that one bothers you because it proves the direction our society is heading if we don't maintain certain standards. I love you man...and have a good day.


Submitted by sue22 on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 12:22pm.

Wow...I must not have received the memo on the "Gay Agenda" that people seem to be so uptight about. Wonder who I should call about that? Hang in there mytwocents...it's not easy to have a "normal" discussion with people on the issue of gay rights. First, y'all should know that I am indeed a gay female who has a rather well-paying job, owns a home, pays taxes, volunteers as a mentor in an elementary school, coaches Upward Bound Basketball, and yes much to the shock of many of you on this board, I am a Christian. I have no problem at all with people who disagree with my sexual preference. God Bless America - it is certainly your right to disagree. As a matter of fact, I enjoy good discourse with varying opinions and beliefs, and I'm not beyond being enlightened by someone who has a differing opinion. Unfortunately, as is inevitable, too many people who disagree with what is being referred to as "The Gay Agenda" don't want to participate in a discourse. They want to name-call and tell all of us how perverted and un-normal we are. I truly hope that none of you have children or other relatives who are stuggling with their sexual identities or who will one day struggle with that issue, because if those children hear some of the hatred and ignorance that has been professed on this board, then how in the world will that make them feel about themselves? For those of you who actually care about real statistics, the suicide rate among gay teenagers is extremely high. In my opinion, that high suicide rate is partly attributable to the hate and vile that many spew about homosexuality. Disagree with homosexuality, think it's wrong, and vote for candidates who don't support "The Gay Agenda." That is your right. But please, keep the ignorant and hateful comments to yourself. That does nothing but inflame. One last thing, I grew up in a firmly Christian home, as did the majority of my friends. My parents have been together over 50 years, and they have taught me (and I thank God everyday that they did) that God is a God of love and that Jesus implores, no he commands us, to treat one another as we would want to be treated. My parents are wonderful examples of what being Christian is all about. They are proud of me and they support me, and they stand up for what they believe in, just as they taught me. Homosexuality is not and will not be the downfall of society. The downfall of this society, much like the downfalls of powerful empires before us, will be those individuals who think they've cornered the market on God and Christianity and in the name of God, they belittle and berate. Beware of false prophets...it seems I've read that somewhere before.

Submitted by melissafred on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 10:28pm.

I'm a new user but have been a lurker for quite some time. I just couldn't let this topic pass without saying something.

Sue22, hang in there. Git Real, I'm a straight, happily-married mom. However, I agree 100% with Sue22. I used to agree with your perspective until I found out that someone in my family that I love dearly is gay. In fact, I was the first person he came out to. He also lived with me for 2 months as my nanny (after he came out to me) and it was the best thing that could've happened. I was able to ask any question I've ever had but never had the courage to ask. You know what I learned? The only thing that separates him from my husband (or any other straight man) is who he chooses to love. He is one of the most moral, upright, upstanding people I've ever met. He loves, hates, cries and feels all of the same emotions that you and I do. He's also worried about being accepted by family members as well as being the victim of gay-bashing. You and I don't have to worry about being harmed or discriminated against because of who we choose to love. He also didn't choose this way of life. To quote him directly "Do you think anyone would choose this, knowing what we face?" He went on to say that he tried dating girls and doing anything else he could to convince himself that he was straight. However, he finally had to accept the fact that he was gay.

I am quite happy as a hetero. However, I will be the last person in the world to dictate to others who they can love and marry. I would prefer that my sons and daughter pursue heterosexual relationships because of the discrimination and persecution issues. However, I would much rather have them in a stable, loving homosexual relationship than in an unstable, abusive relationship with a heterosexual loser.

Submitted by sue22 on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 2:30pm.

Melissa, just wanted to say a quick thank you for the support. I definitely identify with the experiences that you have had with your relative, and based on my personal family experiences, I know that he is grateful for your support. I did not come on this board to advance any agenda; I merely wanted people to hear a perspective that is different from their own. That seems to be sorely missing in Fayette County. What has amazed me is that many of the responders for this topic seem to be so knowledgable about how I "became" gay, what my "agenda" is, and and just about everything else that involves being gay. I've even had people imply that I lied about activities that I'm involved in. It doesn't bother me that they disagree with my sexual preference; what bothers me is that they presume to know so much about the gay lifestyle. I've been "out" for many years now, and I challenge any heterosexual to claim that they know anything about what I've been through (or what my family has been through). I have respect for you and your opinions (as angry as they make me), yet you have no room for that same respect in your narrow world. Don't tell me why I love a female and don't tell me what I base my feelings on. You know nothing about me. As for you Melissa, I wish the best for you and your relative. And, I definitely understand your desire for your children to be heterosexual. As this board has demonstrated, for whatever reason, there is much hostility toward homosexuals.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 2:45pm.

My refusal to endorse homosexuality is not a hatred or hostility for homosexuals. But for homosexualtiy.

Homosexuals can cease to be homosexuals. But Homosexuality, the act, cannot.

You and other homosexuals can attempt to justify your homosexuality. You can appeal to personal experience, feelings and such all you want. But it does not change facts.

ALL people have tendancies toward something they should not give into. That is meaning of herent. And what homosexuality is scientifically.

Giving in makes the desires stronger and the ability and desire to do what is right harder and more muted.

Homosexuals who have fought the battle and won it can affirm this fact.

Homosexuality is a practice that cannot be endorsed, legalized or accepted by a society. It is destructive for the reasons laid out.

I do not want to see legal witch hunts. But neither do I want to see homosexualty defended.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 9:43am.

I'm a new user but have been a lurker for quite some time. I just couldn't let this topic pass without saying something.

Welcome. Everyone has a right to their opinion. Be it right or wrong.

Sue22, hang in there. Git Real, I'm a straight, happily-married mom. However, I agree 100% with Sue22. I used to agree with your perspective until I found out that someone in my family that I love dearly is gay.

Exactly how did this suddenly make homosexuality okay? This is not a well reasoned decision. It is one based on personal relationship and emotion.

You know what I learned? The only thing that separates him from my husband (or any other straight man) is who he chooses to love.

That is false. There are many of issues that reach far beyond this simplistic statement. As I laid out in another post.

He is one of the most moral, upright, upstanding people I've ever met.

That is your opinion.

Do not misunderstand. I know gay people. Some are my friends.

But I also know people who are into other immoral acts and activities. While I do not shun them for it, neither do I condone or embrace what they are doing wrong.

I am not saying you should not love him. But loving him does not require you to embrace what he is doing.

Kinda of like the high profile Democratic female consultant. She is dead set against capital punishment. Except for rape.

Why? Because she was raped, thus she sees the tremendousily destructuve aftermath of this just having sex act.

He loves, hates, cries and feels all of the same emotions that you and I do.

And this justifies homosexuality exactly how?

He's also worried about being accepted by family members as well as being the victim of gay-bashing.

Knowing homosexuality is wrong is not gay-bashing. Neither is saying it is wrong. Nor not giving legal protection to it.

You and I don't have to worry about being harmed or discriminated against because of who we choose to love.

Moot argument. Meaningless.

He also didn't choose this way of life. To quote him directly "Do you think anyone would choose this, knowing what we face?" He went on to say that he tried dating girls and doing anything else he could to convince himself that he was straight. However, he finally had to accept the fact that he was gay.

Sounds just like arguments from alcohol and drug abusers. And theifs, liars and so on as well.

They also claim then cannot help it. So we should give them a pass as well? Give them legal proctections by law since they were born that way, as they claim as well?

And yes, he chooses to give into the urge, be it herent, acquired or whatever.

There are groups of ex-homosexuals out there. They are hated and bashed by practicing homosexuals as behing liars, were never true homosexuals and so on. Anything to defend their life style or justify their actions.

I never said it is easy to overcome the life style. Or that such urges do not exist in some. But giving into an urge is not the same as being hard wired for that activity. And the more one does it the harder it is to stop.

But that does not make it right to practice homosexuality.

I am quite happy as a hetero. However, I will be the last person in the world to dictate to others who they can love and marry.

As pointed out by others and myself, this is not a harmless life style that only impacts the homosexuality. It impacts just abour every part of society, thus is not a leave it alone issue as regards institutes such as marriage, military, Scouting and so on.

I would prefer that my sons and daughter pursue heterosexual relationships because of the discrimination and persecution issues. However, I would much rather have them in a stable, loving homosexual relationship than in an unstable, abusive relationship with a heterosexual loser.

Dealing with perversion as perversion is not discrimination or persecution unless it crosses the line into abuse and criminal acts.

This is not a impact neutral issue when it is pushed out of the confines of private behavior and into the domain of social institutions.

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Submitted by Git Real on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 9:20am.

I know plenty of gay people too. And gee...why is it that I have never had the desire to harm them???

There you go melissafred. It's all about choice isn't it? You chose to love your hubby. Your family member chose to love someone of the same sex. Indeed it is a choice? I desired to love an 8 year old girl would you argree that that's my choice and would you defend me against being harmed and discriminated against? Heck no.....it would be an awful and disgusting choice to make just as the one your family member made. Thank you for your honesty in admitting that homosexuality is indeed a choice. Continue loving and supporting your family member and encourage him to make better choices. That's what family is all about.


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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 2:45pm.

I see the gays are jumping in here in an attempt to make some of us look like the unnatural ones. Well...welcome to the Citizen Online. It's nice to have you join us in the last couple of hours. From where do you monitor and respond to gays issues from? I also have been involved in Upward Basketball and it's funny that we have not run up against any lesbian coaches. I think we would know that....wouldn't you think. Nice imitation you portray of a conservative lesbian church attending parent. Have I brought up anything regarding God on this issue? I hardly hate you. If you were ever in trouble and needed help I would certainly respond appropriately with out questioning your queerness or not. Even after finding out you were perverted I would still be respectful and kind. Put the hate crap bag in your bag of cliches.....it's oh so old already. I'm convinced your the ones that hate. Just look at your protests around the country that target people who disagree with you and the true nastiness and sickness of your agenda truly does darken your cause revealing your hypocrisies.


Submitted by my2cents on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 4:50pm.

wow, you think that "our protests" are hateful?? LOL, I guess you haven't witnessed an anti-gay protest have you?

Anyway, I'll announce my departure...I do have a rather important "agenda" meeting to attend...or is it a little league game, maybe it's a church function, who knows, maybe I'm your ALTA partner. Beware, the gays are coming, the gays are coming!! Have fun with your hate...later.

Submitted by my2cents on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 3:38pm.

"I also have been involved in Upward Basketball and it's funny that we have not run up against any lesbian coaches. I think we would know that....wouldn't you think"...that's our whole point here. You hate people that you don't even know. Sue22 is an Upward Bound coach, and you're right...you would never know that because she doesn't "force" it on anyone. Oh my, what if she's a coach that you actually like and now you find out she's gay...you must immediately start hating her. You're a piece of work Git Real. What's so sad is that you don't even realize how filled with hate you are. Just look at your posts sweetie. Not one post of mine or anyone that agrees with me is filled with such nastiness as yours. No one is saying you're unnatural. The last thing I want to do is tell SOMEONE ELSE what's natural for them. You wouldn't understand that though. I guess you have nothing else going for you so you chose to spend your time hating people that aren't just like you. So sad...

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Submitted by WakeUp on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 3:53pm.

You stated you don't post nastiness. Review your post where you called me "2% of a brain" after I referred to you as "2% of a dollar", which is clearly a play on your alias.

I guess your view is subjective, but yours was directed at a person. Say what you wish, just be consistent.

About Upward, the coaches have to agree to certain standards based on principles of the sponsor Church and the Upward organization. I know of no Fayette county sponsor church that would knowingly allow a gay person to coach. So, by being a gay coach, you (or Sue22) is lying twice a week to the players, parents and organizers. Typical....


Submitted by sue22 on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 5:20pm.

Well I thought that I would join this discussion, state my opinion, and then leave the rest of this riveting topic to others to carry on with. But I just have to address one more thing. A few of you have mentioned that you would know if a lesbian was coaching in Upward Bound. My question is this: how would you know? Do you think that we all look alike? Do you think that since I am part of the homosexual agenda that I would be walking around espousing the virtues of being gay in this society. Contrary to what many of you seem to believe, being gay is not my one defining characteristic. And shame on all of you for implying that a gay person would not be welcomed in a Fayette County church. How contrary to the teachings of Christianity. WakeUp, I'm not lying to anyone that is involved with Upward Bound. I fully believe in the teachings of Christianity, and during the practices when we set aside time to do Bible study, there will be no one as passionate about those teachings than me. I've also taught Vacation Bible School, I've been on Mission Trips, and I contribute to Casas Por Cristos (Houses for Christ) on a regular basis. You can disagree with my sexual preference, and as I have said before, I really have no problem with that. That's your right. But please do not profess to know what lesbians look like, what we believe in, or what our agenda is. I live a discreet life as well as a very family oriented one. The majority of my friends live the same way. We see no reason to proclaim our sexuality on a daily basis. Will I join a message board so that I can state my opinions on topics that are important to me? Yes I will. Will I continue to fight for the right to be treated with respect and to be treated equally? Yes I will. You can insult me all you want WakeUp...that is typical of people like you. I believe that you have shown your ignorance by saying you would know if someone was a lesbian. Once again typical of people like you. As for upholding standards of Upward, I have no doubts that I do indeed uphold those standards. Too bad that you don't uphold the standards of Christianity yourself.

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Submitted by WakeUp on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 5:38pm.

which is why I post here.

Before I violate a promise to myself and get involved in another mindless debate, tell me where - in any of my posts - where, as your above posts states "I believe that you have shown your ignorance by saying you would know if someone was a lesbian.", that I said I could spot or recognize a lesbian.

Let me know, and then we can have a discussion. Until then, I will spend the rest of the evening with my family.


Submitted by Harvey on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 6:02pm.

New topic. New posters consuming the web site. Kinda makes you wonder.

Submitted by sue22 on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 5:15pm.

Well I thought that I would join this discussion, state my opinion, and then leave the rest of this riveting topic to others to carry on with. But I just have to address one more thing. A few of you have mentioned that you would know if a lesbian was coaching in Upward Bound. My question is this: how would you know? Do you think that we all look alike? Do you think that since I am part of the homosexual agenda that I would be walking around espousing the virtues of being gay in this society. Contrary to what many of you seem to believe, being gay is not my one defining characteristic. And shame on all of you for implying that a gay person would not be welcomed in a Fayette County church. How contrary to the teachings of Christianity. WakeUp, I'm not lying to anyone that is involved with Upward Bound. I fully believe in the teachings of Christianity, and during the practices when we set aside time to do Bible study, there will be no one as passionate about those teachings than me. I've also taught Vacation Bible School, I've been on Mission Trips, and I contribute to Casas Por Cristos (Houses for Christ) on a regular basis. You can disagree with my sexual preference, and as I have said before, I really have no problem with that. That's your right. But please do not profess to know what lesbians look like, what we believe in, or what our agenda is. I live a discreet life as well as a very family oriented one. The majority of my friends live the same way. We see no reason to proclaim our sexuality on a daily basis. Will I join a message board so that I can state my opinions on topics that are important to me? Yes I will. Will I continue to fight for the right to be treated with respect and to be treated equally? Yes I will. You can insult me all you want WakeUp...that is typical of people like you. I believe that you have shown your ignorance by saying you would know if someone was a lesbian. Once again typical of people like you. As for upholding standards of Upward, I have no doubts that I do indeed uphold those standards. Too bad that you don't uphold the standards of Christianity yourself.

Submitted by my2cents on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 4:16pm.

You're right. That was so nasty of me and I apologize lol. That's just it, you don't KNOW about it. They don't say "Hey I'm gay, let me coach". Their sexual orientation doesn't have anything to do with their coaching ability. So guess what, they don't announce it to everyone. Just know, they're EVERYWHERE. It's gonna take a LOT of energy to try and figure out who and where...better get started now.

Submitted by my2cents on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 3:35pm.

"I also have been involved in Upward Basketball and it's funny that we have not run up against any lesbian coaches. I think we would know that....wouldn't you think"...that's our whole point here. You hate people that you don't even know. Sue22 is an Upward Bound coach, and you're right...you would never know that because she doesn't "force" it on anyone. Oh my, what if she's a coach that you actually like and now you find out she's gay...you must immediately start hating her. You're a piece of work Git Real.

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Submitted by Git Real on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 8:34am.

Oh yeah...I thought that was the case. All queer folk cross dressing as and imitating straight folk. Thanks for enlightening me on that. That's funny. There you go with your hate crap again. I disagress and think homosexuality is sick and perverted and that makes me a hate monger. One thing you are right about though...I am a piece of work.


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Submitted by WakeUp on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 3:16pm.

I noticed that too. It seems like most of the pro-gay life styles users are new.

You know, gays were called "queers" when I was growing up. A lot of people thought that was a "bad word". But it fits better than any other title. Queer is something that does not fit or is out of the ordinary; that is, it is different. The title fits.

Homosexuality is not natural. Granted, it has been around for thousands of years, but this behavior is still "not normal".

Let's wait and see what is up their sleeves. They will try to monopolize this board or something else to propagate their lifestyle in this community.

See ya around.....


Submitted by my2cents on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 3:42pm.

LOL I'm so flattered that you guys give the gay community so much power and prestige. Please don't be afraid that we'll one day takeover...as far as I know, that hasn't been added to the "agenda", but I'll let you know when they send out the memo so you can be prepared. Get ready, they're all coming to this board...run, run for your lives!!

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Submitted by fatdaddy721 on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 3:22pm.

No they will not try to monopolize this board they will only stay here while this is the HOT TOPIC of conversation then they will be gone only to move on to the next hot bed of gay topics.They obviously only joined to chime in on this topic.


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Submitted by Basmati on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 4:18pm.

The irony of being lectured on the posting habits of new users by a guy who's only been registered two weeks!

I got a feeling you'll stick around though. You've found some kindred souls who share your disdain for people not like you. You, GitReal, PTC Guy and WakeUp are the Four Hoarse Men of the Esophagus.


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Submitted by fatdaddy721 on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 4:23pm.

Well lets see i have posted on more than one topic so I guess I will stick around considering I grew up here and just moved back here two weeks ago after serving my country.


Submitted by loveptc on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 7:03pm.

Hey fatdaddy721
I do not agree with the war... but welcome home! You were there fighting for us (no matter what your views are) and you made it home safe. I am so glad you got to hug your loved ones & see their faces! May many more of our people come home to post on this page! God Bless!

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Submitted by fatdaddy721 on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 7:11pm.

Thank you so very much for your words, and even though you do not agree with the war you took time out of your day to say thanks to me someone you do not even know, so thank you again it means so much to me hear someone say thanks.


Submitted by loveptc on Thu, 06/08/2006 - 7:24pm.

I don't agree with this war, but I cannot belive I'am the first person to say Thank You to You! Come on people... we have young men and ladies coming back from overseas touring diffrent parts of the World. Some come back in body bags! Lets stop talking about gay rights, and maybe about these person's rights!
I hate War... but young man lead a good life!

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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Fri, 06/09/2006 - 6:32am.

I have a friend who lost her son to this war, can't say that I'm 100% for the war either; however, so many of us do thank you all for protecting our freedom. We would not have the opportunity to openly state these opinions if it weren't for you and so many others protecting our freedoms. While we rant and rave on these blogs, keep in mind this is a freedom that many do not have. THANK YOU!


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