County to spend more on marshals for N. Fayette park

Tue, 05/16/2006 - 3:37pm
By: John Munford

The Fayette County Marshal’s Department will have a presence at the new Kenwood Park recreation complex that will be built in north Fayette County off Ga. Highway 279.

The marshal’s department, which is in charge of security at all county facilities, will share a building at the park’s main entrance with recreation department staff, the Fayette County Commission was told Thursday night.

The building was initially planned to be built during the second phase of the park’s development, but it has been moved up to the first phase at a cost of $370,000. It will be located on the main entrance road to the property.

Commission Chairman Greg Dunn said it would be important for the county to be “tough” on security from the moment the 175-acre park opens for public use. The commission earlier voted to add two new deputy marshal positions in large part because of the need to patrol Kenwood Park once it opens.

The big-ticket items in the first phase include four tennis courts, four basketball courts, two volleyball courts, a multi-purpose field and a playground. The first phase also will include a running track, walking paths, a community pavilion, three picnic shelters, a maintenance building and a restroom building.

Construction has already begun on the park with the county’s public works department grading the site, said county consulting engineer David Jaeger. Once that is complete — likely by the beginning of September — it will take a year to construct the first phase of the park, Jaeger said.

The commission also voted to eliminate a few of the smaller facilities planned for the final park layout, including a bocce ball court, a racquetball court and a horseshoe pit. Dunn said where he previously lived in New York, racquetball courts would become covered with graffiti.

The projected construction cost recently sprang from $2.5 million to $10 million overall. The first phase will cost $3.7 million, and that required the County Commission to cut back $1 million in improvements earmarked for Starr’s Mill and McCurry Park so they could be transferred to the Kenwood project.

Included in the future plan for Kenwood Park are four baseball fields, four softball fields and two soccer fields.

County Recreation Director Anita Godbee said the county’s public works department has been doing much of the initial grading on the site, which has saved money which would have been needed for a subcontractor.

Earlier this year, the commission voted to spend a total of $447,500 with Mallet Consulting Inc. for design and project management services for all three phases of the park. Dunn said the project will bring a park to an area of the county “where people don’t have access to any park.”

Malcolm Hughes, who ran for the commission seat now held by Commissioner Robert Horgan, said he wanted to address the commission on the Kenwood Park issue. But Dunn informed him that the county’s public comment regulations do not allow comments to the commission on items that were on the agenda.

Dunn told Hughes that he and county staff would be glad to assist Hughes after the meeting.

“But it won’t be on the minutes then,” Hughes said.

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Buckwheat Rules's picture
Submitted by Buckwheat Rules on Wed, 05/17/2006 - 2:40pm.

Here's what I don't understand, everyone in Fayette County realizes that anything and everything in North Fayette is turning into an extension of the Riverdale ghetto anyhow, so why on earth would you invest taxpayer money there knowing it's going to be trashed and taken over by the very thugs that live around that area?

Personally, I would love to see what $10 million, or even $5 million would do for Lake Horton Park.


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Submitted by muddle on Thu, 05/18/2006 - 5:34am.

OK. All this talk about N. Fayette County is freakin' me out.

I'm apparently at the *epicenter* of what people predict is sliding into a slum. I chose the location to ease my commute.

We moved here from another state nine years ago. I've spent that time perfecting my home, personally nailing down, sanding and finishing good old-fashioned hardwoods on every floor up and down, putting in a self-contained basement apartment, landscaping, etc., etc. Though the builder was crappy (his full name rhymes with "Bad Lumber"--which he used), the place is now very comfortable--even charming. Heck, I even have a pond full of large bass and my own private "beach"! I don't really want to move.

When we chose this neighborhood, we knew that it was racially mixed--perhaps 50/50. Indeed, as we toured this house, our neighbor was in his yard, and the realtor nodded over and asked me, "Does that bother you?" (((GET THIS: We knew this realtor from another connection, so I guess she thought she could confide in us. She said she can't "steer" customers towards or away from areas, but she would intentionally fall in behind a school bus as she drove clients around so that they could see "who" (racially, of course) was getting off.))) Anyway, "that" turned out to be Larry, my black neighbor whom I have come to know and appreciate for nine years.

This neighborhood has remained relatively stable. Two homes on my street have changed hands two or three times--each involving foreclosures. (The man across the street walked away from his mortgage and his dog that he left chained out in the yard. Unbelievable.) With those exceptions, I really *like* the neighborhood. Most of the homes and yards are well maintained. Several on my street are absolutely immaculate showcases, all owned by black families who were in here before me.

Our next door neighbors, who were here for eight years, moved away last year to another state. They "reflected light" the same as me, (as another poster put it). The house was purchased by a black family. I've met and interacted with them and, darn it, they're just *good people.* Their son, like the other kids, black and white, that I've watched grow up here for nine years, is polite and friendly, and the parents are hard workers. I'm pretty sure they are here from--you guessed it--Clayton county.

Now, if I haven't lost your interest by now, let me try to move to my point.

One more door down is another white family that has lived here for years. (Until our next door neighbors moved last year, there were four honkey houses in a row!) When they saw that the home between us was going to a black family, they expressed some anxiety about the neighborhood. Now, I see that they, too, have taken to our new neighbors and get along well with them. And, like me, when they bought, they knew that there were black families all around and found it perfectly natural to have them as neighbors. So I don't think the nervousness is any sort of blatant racism.

I learned just yesterday that they plan to be out by the end of this year.

Now, I'm not blind. I go through Riverdale or Union City, College Park or East Point, and I see the features of those communities that people here are complaining about. People have bars on their windows in East Point. At the gas stations, not only must you pay before pumping, but there are extra security measures to prevent your using a stolen card. Riverdale is ugly, with litter, too much oil-stained asphalt, and sleezy, run-down businesses. I will not venture any theories on why these communities are as they are. I don't want Fayetteville (and N. Fayette) to look like that.

But please tell me: what is the real worry? If I not only don't mind, but actually LIKE my black neighbors, have I nevertheless some incentive to "keep moving south" as someone here has said?

For a long time, I was hearing from people that they are noticing more and more African Americans at the grocery, etc. I tried to see what they meant, but did not think I detected any significant difference in percentages. I think I see it now at, say, the Banks Crossing Kroger. But what's the big deal? Really?

Why would you not stay here another ten years if you were me?

And one more thing: Where is the Fayette Mason-Dixon line, anyway?

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"Every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
--Duane Allman


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 05/18/2006 - 9:08am.

range go a long way to determining the demographics of buyers. Black or White really doesn't matter, you will see a difference in folks, when you look in different priced areas.

I agree, the quality of folks I've met in Fayette County is second to none compared to Henry County that I moved from over 2 years ago.

Clayton doomed itself to be the bottom run on the ladder in the Metro Atlanta area when it allowed the cheapest housing to be built. You can blame Charley Griswell and Company for this. It's also a good reason to be very careful who we elect to be our Leaders in Fayette County, we need folks who will stick to the Land Use Plan.

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Submitted by H. Hamster on Wed, 05/17/2006 - 6:23pm.

Maybe a wall between Clayton and Fayette would work, Then we could keep out those undesirable people. If we scrapped the park we would have enough money to build the wall.


Submitted by dopplerobserver on Thu, 05/18/2006 - 11:07am.

The Soviets once built one in Germany and King Ronaldo said: "Mr. Krushchev, tear down this wall." And he did. The Chinese once built one and it didn't work. The Romans built one in England, and it didn't work either. This is only for the election and the contractors who will built the stupid thing. (Same people working in Iraq). PUT THE EMPLOYERS WHO HIRE THEM IN JAIL, JAIL, I SAY, AND THEY WON'T COME, AND WHAT ARE HERE WILL GO HOME, IT IS THAT SIMPLE. DON'T GIVE ME THAT STUFF ABOUT FALSE ID PAPERS EITHER, SS NUMBERS ARE EASY TO CHECK.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Wed, 05/17/2006 - 6:34pm.

Eye-wink You just love to stir the pot, don't you, Bro.

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Submitted by christi on Wed, 05/17/2006 - 5:10pm.

A friend of ours saw a black lady in Fayetteville the other day who was wearing a shirt that said, "We took Clayton county. Fayette is next." I swear I am not making that up. Makes me so angry!


Submitted by doc on Wed, 05/17/2006 - 10:47am.

It's arrogant to be adding $370.00 to a project that is already unpopular and over budget.

Has it occured to anyone else that if you feel the need for a Marshal's station at the entrance then it might not be a good place for a park in the first place. None of the other parks have Marshal stations.

Submitted by allend on Tue, 05/16/2006 - 7:48pm.

If the county can't even keep the bathrooms nice enough to keep them open at Kiwanis Field why are they building more? If they have to rent port-a-poties because they have let the facilities get so run down at Kiwanis, they have no buisness building a new 10 million dollar park. Spending 2 or 3 million on your current parks makes more sense and you would still have something to be proud of. If I can drive from Brooks to Kiwanis Field, so can someone from the Hwy 279 area.

It is outrageous to spend millions more on another park to maintain when the county has proven they will not maintainin the ones you've got. These Commissioners do not take care of the parks they've already built.

Look at the bathrooms at the football field at McCurry Park, where they just cut money from for this northern park. You can't look at the bathrooms at Kiwanis Field because they got so bad they had to close them. What did they cut from the Starr's Mill park?

Build nicer facilities at the parks you already have and forget about your crown jewels. Put a plaque on it with your name on it when you upgrade it if you have to, but upgrading what you have in operation would be much much cheaper than starting over and cutting from the parks already in use.

Submitted by Harvey on Tue, 05/16/2006 - 6:53pm.

Once the true price tag of the North Park came out the public seemed to be more against it than for it,in fact I can't remember reading many if any favorable comments when the true price was revealed. The Commissioners are adding $370.00 to phase one speeding up a building for Marshals that wasn't intended until the second phase. Instead of scaling back this park they scaled back improvements at Starr's Mill and McCurry Park, two very busy parks, while adding to this north end disaster. Most voters had pretty much made up their minds that there shouldn't be a phase two after learning the cost, some don't even want phase one. This smacks of a commission that believes that they may soon be lame ducks and are forcing their pork in before that happens.

As I recall one of the commission candidates was in favor of scaling back the Marshal's Department, instead this Commission gave the Marshals two more patromen. The true test will be after the summer primaries. If Dunn and Wells are defeated and begin construction of this building it would be highly irresponsible. If after July it is obvious that the three amigos are no longer going to be in power the citizens may have to take action to stop them from forcing their pet projects down our throat at the end.

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Submitted by muddle on Tue, 05/16/2006 - 6:58pm.

Sure doesn't sound consensual to me.

Kill the park.

(And I am within walking distance of the location.)


Submitted by FCHSalumni on Fri, 05/19/2006 - 6:11pm.

Muddle, I enjoyed reading your post about moving into North Fayette and your neighbors. When I come down to visit family (which is at least twice a month), I drive down Fayetteville Road and think of all the changes the area has gone through. Except for the bars on some of the doors and windows, I can't see a huge difference. But I have to wonder what prompted people to put them there. Riverdale is just plain sad. I won't drive through it any more.

Having read the article on this incredible jump in expense for this proposed Kenwood Park, I am amazed. It's not even built yet and already they've been determined that it will have "security problems" so we've got to hire marshalls to protect it? Marshalls???

Can the folks planning this park not see the forrest for the trees? Why build a park when it already seems doomed to failure? Are we going to have to read about the next four-year-old child who dies in gang crossfire, watch the child's grandmother cry as the arrogant thugs who did it stare blankly in court?

Or is it a matter of "Let's throw as much money at this so nobody can yell at us that North Fayette never got a park"?

It just looks bad no matter how they try to sell it.

Submitted by Honestly on Fri, 05/19/2006 - 7:50pm.

Where are the reasonable heads? If we let them do this it will be $10 million which Peachtree City residents will mostly pay for and never get any benefit from it.

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Submitted by WakeUp on Fri, 05/19/2006 - 9:55pm.

Your arrogance and elitism is under-whelming. PTC residents will pay for most of it and not get any benefit? Yeah, I want hard numbers on contributions from the cities' residents and the county residents. I will have to do some research on that, as until now I have not given it much thought. I don't care if me and my neighbors pay more or less than you and your neighbors. But I am curious none the less.

Even if it is built, and I hope it is not, everyone in PTC could benefit from it by getting in their cars and visiting it. Not deriving any benefit is a choice. Your argument lost steam when you indicated PTC residents are the ones paying for it.


Submitted by Honestly on Sat, 05/20/2006 - 3:39am.

Do you reasonably beleive PTC residents will drive to gang bang city to enjoy sitting at the picnic tables with the fam watching drive-by shootings? Survival is not elitism. I hope you do the research on who pays for it. I admit I'm not sure if PTC will pay the brunt of it, but even if we only pay half of it, it is money poorly spent. I don't know of a park in PTC where 10 mil was spent but if it was, you wouldn't need a guard shack at the front gate!

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