Council’s comment limit degrades public

Tue, 04/25/2006 - 4:15pm
By: Letters to the ...

I was deeply saddened to read in the newspaper that the City Council of Peachtree City would even consider restricting speech in public government meetings. Knocking public speech down to just two and three minutes is a sign that the council perceives the opinions of the people to be of no consequence.

The First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States declares that “Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech.” The ability of the people to speak openly, especially in the governmental arena, is a vital part of our political, social and cultural growth.

The legal doctrine in this country has always expressed the value of the public’s right to stand toe-to-toe with government in the public forum. If hurried government is the goal of the City Council, gaining more evening TV viewing time on those two Thursday evenings a month, they might consider leaving elected office.

Public “servants” heed to the will of the people, the U.S. Constitution and state Constitution of Georgia, not the other way around. Restricting speech is not being a public servant; instead, you are turning the public into servants.

The new two-minute abbreviated, truncated and meaningless comment segment is permitted for only 20 minutes.

You are forced to register 30 minutes prior to the council meeting just to be able speak for two minutes in the public meeting. Even if you register, you may not be allowed a turn within the 20-minute period; your speech has effectively been eliminated by your local government.

Freedom of speech is at the core of American beliefs. Freedom of speech is the foundation that allows our other freedoms to stand. That is why we get a lump in our throats when we view the Norman Rockwell paintings of ordinary men and women speaking in the public forum, something truly special.

As The Citizen dutifully noted (“2 Minutes,” April 19), I have seen governmental repression of free speech first hand.

In 2000, I had made objections regarding the then-city attorney having business relations with powerful developers and, at the same time, representing the city in litigation against those same developers.

I was not allowed to speak on this matter before the City Council. Much to his credit, Mayor Lenox later adopted a much more open stance on speech in the public forum.

Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, in his famous 1919 opinion on free speech, said: “If you have no doubt of your premises or your power and want a certain result with all your heart you naturally express your wishes in law and sweep away all opposition.”

Our Founding Fathers could have created a much more expeditious form of government but they thought it better to consent to the participation of the people. We need to advocate free speech in our local government meetings.

Steve Brown
Peachtree City, Ga.

Brown is the former mayor of Peachtree City.

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Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Wed, 05/03/2006 - 12:20pm.

after your "two minutes" instead of 4 years.

Submitted by Sailon on Wed, 05/03/2006 - 11:53am.

If this grand plan is typical of the new administration then we are in for a hard time. It will only allow someone to be cut off who they don't like.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Wed, 05/03/2006 - 3:34pm.

Remember back in the election discussion here? Ivory Tower? Tell the peasants after the fact? Could not keep promise to cut or freeze expenses? Would try to assume Tennis Center Debt?

I Warned you guys. But nope, I didn't know what I was talking about.

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Submitted by Reality Bytes on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 5:59pm.

Well, well....look who's back in town? It's our old friend, Mr. Stevie. This time he's decided to aim his pen at the consideration of a "public comment" session of Peachtree City's council meetings.

And once again, Mr. Brown misses the point altogether. The purpose of the proposal was to ALLOW the public to comment on any topic, regardless of whether or not is was on the agenda. It's actually being MORE beneficial, allowing anyone to state anything they want about anything they want. It just does it in a state of decorum, something the former mayor might not clearly recall his tenure was sorely lacking.

If you want to talk about a topic on the agenda, you'll still get your chance during the meeting. Man, read the whole ordinance!

Your ACLU, first-amendment knee-jerk quote-happy opines are of a vein similar to Ms. McKinney. Let's remember that the good citizens of Peachtree City had enough of your babbling....

Go away Steve.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Wed, 05/03/2006 - 3:37pm.

And then sit back and listen only if something comes up in the discussions after?

Agenda item presented, discussion on Council follow, a sudden new thought comes up, they vote and adopt it.

Your 2 minutes within 20 minutes total means squat.

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Submitted by H. Hamster on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 6:30pm.

And it is not "A lump in our throats when we view the Norman Rockwell paintings of ordinary men and women speaking in the public forum, something truly special"

Instead it is a lump in my ((((deleted)))) that I though I eliminated last November.

Your right to free speech is the same as mine. The city is putting us all on equal footing - different perhaps from what you are used to in the "Citizen" and on your "bully pulpit" but nevertheless, fair and equal.

idontknow says you are an ACLU member. Surely that can't be true since you were once (briefly, thank God) a public official. I disagree with the McKinney comparision - she got reelected and you didn't.

Go away Steve, far, far, away.


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Submitted by birdman on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 9:38am.

Wow, just like an old family reunion. The "fun" blogging kind of came to a halt after Brownie was shown the door. Guess the political "flogging" that he received not once, but TWICE (way to go voters) kept him undrground for the last 3 months. Now if we can only convince him to crawl back under his rock forever it'd be nice.

Stevie, you no more believe in "Free Speech" than you do in truth. You did all you could to squelch the free speech of the PTC citizens for 4 long and arduous years. You used the City Council Meetings, State of the City addresses, Ethics Hearings (remember yours and Rapson's?), Comcast Cable, and, of course, the Citizen to publicly attack anyone and everyone who used their right of Free Speech to question you. You were never more than an egomaniacle dictator wannabee. You purged City Hall to a level that would have made Stalin proud. You used every available means to attempt to squelch your opposition. And when you were beaten, you turned to quoting scripture (generally after slandering "your" citizens by name). You have NO integrity, NO ethics, NO credibility. We ARE NOT interested in your rantings. YOU WILL NEVER BE ELECTED AGAIN. So slide back under your rock and let us live in the peace that you tried so hard to destroy.


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Submitted by fancypants on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 9:53am.

"...YOU WILL NEVER BE ELECTED AGAIN...."

That's my favorite part of your comment!


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Submitted by nuk on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 9:40am.

That's an excellent summation of Steve's reign.


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