180 Fayette students lose licenses

Tue, 04/25/2006 - 3:59pm
By: John Thompson

Many Fayette County students are realizing just how serious the state of Georgia was about making sure that students attend school and behave when they’re on school property.

Since the beginning of this school year, the state has revoked 180 students’ driver’s licenses here in Fayette because of too many unexcused absences or disciplinary problems, according to Fayette County School System Director of Safety C.W. Campbell.

Campbell explained the General Assembly passed the Teen and Adult Drivers’ Responsibility Act in 1997 to encourage safer driving and to keep kids in school. Each year, the legislators have tightened the restrictions on teens keeping their licenses.

“This year, you’re allowed 10 unexcused absences during the year, and then we have to report the absences to the Department of Motor Safety,” he said.

Last year, the state allowed 10 unexcused absences per semester. The tightening of the law has increased by a large margin the number of students who are grounded.

“We have had 119 licenses revoked due to poor attendance and 61 due to disciplinary situations,” he said.

The disciplinary categories that cause a license to be revoked include possession or selling of alcohol or drugs on school property, carrying a weapon on property or to a school-sponsored event and committing an act of physical or bodily harm to a student or a school system employee.

When the school system notices a student has seven unexcused absences, a letter is sent home to inform the parents of the impending consequences for additional absences.

“Sometimes, an excuse doesn’t quite make it to school and we want parents to know what could happen,” he added.

The law applies to students ages 14-18 and also has a provision that prevents students from getting a learner’s permit or license if they have the maximum number of absences in the year prior to applying for the license.

Campbell said the law is definitely having an impact.

“Students are now beginning to realize just how serious the state and we are about keeping them in school.”

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Submitted by nrgizrabit on Tue, 05/02/2006 - 9:51am.

If you are a parent who has a child who has had their license revoked.. and is interested in talking to media, please call

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Submitted by WakeUp on Tue, 05/02/2006 - 10:01am.

Please be aware this user was only active 8 minutes before this posting. Are you sure they represent the media or could they have some other agenda?

Submitted by Who Me on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 8:02pm.

As the saying goes; "Those who live in glass houses should not cast stones"

You're so focused on "who done it", that you've lost sight of the real issue. Parents aren't parenting, and kids are doing what they want. This time, they got caught and are suffering the consequenses.

Oh, but for heaven's sake, don't let the almighty Fayette County school system get a blemish!! They might never recover...

I know several parents of "n'er-do-well" kids in Fayette County schools, & yes, they're "legal students".
So, remember that glass house before you throw...

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Submitted by H. Hamster on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 6:19pm.

Did you think to look at the addresses on the 180 envelopes when you sent them out? Those that were going to Clayton or Coweta County maybe should have been turned over to the individual in charge of the illegal student problem. Who is that, dude? You? Government schools at work.

Submitted by Mia on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 11:03am.

This just represents the typical attitude of Fayette County residents. You all think Fayette County is without problems and your kids can do no wrong. An article is written about drivers licenses being revoked and you have to somehow bring Coweta and Clayton County into it. Can you not take criticism and maybe learn from it or actually hold your child responsible for their actions without immediatly pointing the finger at some other issue that has nothing do with the problem? If the perfect residents of Fayette County would take time away from patting themselves on the back and actually open their eyes, they may realize that yes, in fact, Fayette County does have major problems, and they are not caused by Coweta or Clayton County.

Hey, I bet Coweta and Clayton Counties are responsible for the rise in gas prices also!!!

Submitted by Dalmation195 on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 1:36pm.

How sophomoric can you be in your comments? We are proud of the fact that we have some of the best performing schools in a state that ranks among the worst in the nation. We spend our tax dollars (based on our property value) to fund our schools, and we do not want students coming in from other counties attending these schools for FREE!!! I wonder how many of those addresses were to out of county addresses? Some to be sure.

If these parents want their kids to go to
Fayette County schools, they should move into the county. It is just that simple. There are affordable houses in Fayette County. If the problem lies from a considerable amount from River's Edge, I know that hose homeowners can afford to move into Fayette. Those houses are not slums! Let them move!

In closing, Mia, glad you are gone.

Submitted by Carolina76Girl on Tue, 05/02/2006 - 2:51pm.

River's Edge is Fayetteville, but Clayton County.....

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Submitted by fancypants on Thu, 04/27/2006 - 12:33pm.

Mia was trying to make the point that those 180 students who lost their license are not necessarily from Clayton or Coweta County, but may in fact be children of Fayette County residents.

Whereever the children are from, the parents are the ones who should be ashamed letting it gt this far. If the government has to step in and discipline our children because we aren't able to, what's next?

Sometimes I truly don't want to imagine what this country is going to be like in another 10-20 years.

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Submitted by WakeUp on Thu, 04/27/2006 - 12:40pm.

I think everyone got the message MIA made. No, I don't think the government should disciple our children. But we are a country of laws, and that is the law. Why should someone who drives off without paying for gas loose their license, but someone who steals other items gets off with probation. Doesn't make sense, but it is the law.

The point raised was simple. We have out of county kids attending our schools. How many of the kids from our of county were the ones that lost their license? Simple question. Did it pertain to the orignal posting 100%; no. But it was a logical question based on the topics posted here in the past.

Mia does not live here and has made it clear she does not like Fayette County or Georgia. So why take up for her?

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Submitted by fancypants on Thu, 04/27/2006 - 2:25pm.

Because sometimes people on ths board have a tendency to jump to conclusions without reading other people's post completely.

I agree that illegal students shouldn't be ignored, but I also don't think it is nearly as big a problem as everybody makes it out to be. Yes, over near the River's Edge subdivision it is a big issue, but it is not for the rest of the county.

This subject is being artificially pushed into the forefront in light of the upcoming BoE election, nothing less, nothing more.

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Submitted by secret squirrel on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 11:24am.

I believe his comments were more about those in Fayette's neighboring counties who send their children to our schools. A logical reading of Hamster's post would reveal that he's not passing any judgement on whose children have problems and whose do not. In fact, he merely suggests: hose that were going to Clayton or Coweta County maybe should have been turned over to the individual in charge of the illegal student problem.

Seems rather straightforward. Instead of getting worked into what is apparently a rather emotional state of lamenting those nasty Fayette County residents, you might want to first read what you're responding to.

Submitted by Mia on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 12:09pm.

I said "Can you not take criticism and maybe learn from it or actually hold your child responsible for their actions without immediatly pointing the finger at some other issue that has nothing do with the problem?". Let me clarify, since it seems needed. Coweta and Clayton County have NOTHING to do with the Fayette County kids who lost their licenses...but, because something was written bad about Fayette County, Hamster had to throw focus to Coweta and Clayton County instead of take the criticism and expect Fayette County teens to take responsibility for their actions.

Submitted by grendlemom on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 12:27pm.

You obviously live and/or were schooled in one of these other counties, because you have no reading comprehension skills! Sit down, relax, take a chill pill, and let me spell it out for you and draw you a picture - - the comments about neighboring counties was referring to illegal students in Fayette County, period. The comments were NOT about our lack of being responsible for our students actions. Helllloooo!

Submitted by Mia on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 1:05pm.

My county was located in a state that has a 82% graduation rate....what is Georgia, like 54%?

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Submitted by WakeUp on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 1:35pm.

Great that you came from such a good district! But did they "learn ya" the correct sentence should have been "an 82% graduation...."? Also, we don't "school" here; we educate. If Georgia does not meet your expectations, vote to make changes or get the [[[[[[SELF EDITED]]]]]] out of here.

Also, this thread is on Fayette County - NOT GEORGIA! Fayette County had a graduation rate of 91.33%. Roll that up and smoke it.

Submitted by Mia on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 1:01pm.

Yes, the comments were about illegal students (or should we just call them "undocumented students"?)entering Fayette County Schools..And yes, I have read the articles and know it is a hot topic now...BUT THE ARTICLE WAS ABOUT FAYETTE COUNTY STUDENTS WHO LOST THEIR LICENSE BECAUSE OF BEHAVIOR/ACADEMIC PROBLEMS. My point was the comment had absolutly NOTHING to do with the article except to put the spotlight on an issue that had nothing do to with the article. Helllloooo to you too!

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Submitted by Get Real on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 12:23pm.

If your so glad you don't live in Fayette County then go play in your own yard and get out of ours. Don't come on our turf trash talkin. If the Coweta / Clayton folks want their kids to attend school here then they can buy property and move here. Until then WE who are paying for their illegal behavior have every right to take issue with the deadbeat line crossers. As for my children you can rest assured they WILL be held accountable for skipping school because it won't be the guvment they have to worry about.

And leave the rodent alone. Just cause he can't tell the difference between a cat and lion doesn't make him ignorant.

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Submitted by WakeUp on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 12:37pm.


If you have read many posts on this site, you would know the illegal student issue is a hot topic. The issues brought forth here are multi fold: A) the kids did not meet the minimum requirements to obtain / retain driving priviledges; B) Parents have to take responsibility for their kids, most do, but there are always exceptions and C) because Fayette County has a good school system, many students from neighboring counties are illegally entered into our system. These families do not pay taxes and the administration will not do a thing about it. That is the problem.

Now, leave my friends, the rodent and mini-lion, alone and crawl back under your rock.

Submitted by DWP33 on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 7:26am.

about illegal students comeing in. He came from Lovejoy highschool.We have also tried to work with him, along with the BOE about illegal students. On going battle to say the least. Rivers Edge is your biggest source of illegals.

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Submitted by muddle on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 5:36pm.

This sure would have had me walking. I was the worst high school student ever! Growing up on the Florida beaches, whenever the surf came up I paddled out. I *easily* exceeded this limit within a single 9 week grading period.

Thank God for the GED...and a later drive to go on to college and grad school.

Anyway, I learned my own lesson. I could have used this reinforcement to help my own kids learn theirs when they were in HS.

Submitted by MSC on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 5:04pm.

Good. with few exceptions, no child should miss 10 days of school in a year. Don't think I missed that much school my enitre school days combined.

Submitted by ms on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 5:55pm.

You know, for a "Red" state, folks around here sure do expect the government to be involved in an awful lot of parenting issues. Next thing you know, we'll be teaching the Bible in our public schools. OOPPS!! Another "red" state good-idea already come to fruition.

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Submitted by Get Real on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 6:12pm.

Driving is a privilage not a right. If they can't earn it by being productive and responsible citizens then let'em walk. Sooo..is your kid a deadbeat that lost his driving privilages?

Submitted by ms on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 7:21pm.

Heck, my kids aren't near old enough to drive. And when they are, I will have safely moved them to a state where we don't have to threaten, bribe, or enact a state law to get them attend class. But hey, be proud of the 47% graduation rate! If Georgia enacts a few more more laws, you might catch Arkansas!!!

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Submitted by Get Real on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 7:42am.

Enjoy Arkansas. It has some beautiful areas to live in. If you approve of not holding kids accountable for ditching school and getting a little education your future goals are putting you right where you need to be for your mindset. I too despise excessive laws. They are causing our businesses to close up and move overseas. But the one you have singled out seems mindless to criticize.

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Submitted by fancypants on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 7:37am.

Why don't you do us all a favor and move now?

I have a serious problem with people who move here and then do nothing but gripe about being here. Last time I checked nobody held a gun to anybody's head and forced them to move here.

I'm sure your inability to make the best out of being here and look at things in a positive light is setting a great example for your kids! Typical victim finger poitning mentality: "Oh it's not my fault, it's everybody else's!"

Submitted by ms on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 8:55am.

Victim? That's quite a stretch there Fancy. Perhaps you see yourself as a victim, but I'm not, nor will my children ever be a victim to stupid government regulations. In my home, we hold parents, and kids, accountable. Parenting....what a theory! I don't expect the government to have to pass a law to keep my kids in class and I shouldn't expect them to have to pass one to get your kids to attend either. I'll take responsibility for my own kids actions. Responsibility...another great theory!! Perhaps we can get the state to pass a law that requires uniforms for each school. Then they can pass a law that requires government indoctrination training. Oh wait, they already tried that in the USSR and we know how that turned out.

I wonder if the state with the highest graduation rate (Iowa) has "laws" that take the place of parenting or personal responsibility. Hmmm.... Oh, and I stand corrected. Georgia has a 54% graduation rate.

Just so that we are clear on my position, I am not as opposed to the law so much as I am opposed to the bloggers here that view it as a substitute for personal responsibility and good old fashioned parenting!

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Submitted by Get Real on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 7:44am.

Guess that person must be Jeff Carter or his son.

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Submitted by H. Hamster on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 6:56pm.

All I said was that ole' CW should check for illegal students. If they do one illegal thing they have probably done other illegal things and you could infer from those actions that their parents may think cheating/lying/misrepresenting/etc. about where they live might have happened as well.

You Coweta and Clayton folks need to stop being so defensive. Just because you have a few liars and cheaters living in your county who want their kids to go to our schools, that does not mean your county is bad. It means the liars and cheaters are bad.

Unfortunately, it also reflects on the quality of your schools, since if the liars and cheaters are willing to lie and cheat and teach their kids to lie and cheat - well there may be a problem with your own school system. Maybe use some of that energy to fix your own problems instead of throwing rocks at those of us who want to "defend our borders"

What do you think, shaved cat? Will that upset the liberals?

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