Mr. Wakeup,

What is the question here? I love dogs. I would love a great doggie daycare. But is that the question? Is this not more about setting some kind of precident? The Godas got the land knowing what the restrictions would be. Is this not a case of "caveat emptor" (only latin I know)?

Read on ye faithful follower of the Sixth Commissioner and you will find the truth and understanding that Mr. Wakeup has on this issue. At least we all agree on this one.

Who is the 6th commissioner? There are only 5 right?

"Justaskin" was just asking who the Sixth Commissioner was......

The Fayette Commission consists of 5 commissioners. The reference to a 6th Commissioner is hyberbole. It is a reference by Cal Beverly, in his Editorial this week, to the unbridled power and influence exercised by County Attorney on affairs in Fayette County. Beverly suggested that the Commission was disingenious in hiding behind the County Attorney’s refusal to turn over the audit since Commissioner Wells “leaked” portions of the audit in a speech. Here are the excerpts from Beverly’s Opinion:

“No, Mr. Chairman, but that seems to be your latest stance, because it seems to suit your purposes at the moment.Again, Dunn: “You are trying to convince the public that the commissioners have some hidden motives. You are trying to make the public distrust us. If we did something wrong, or even want to, what is it?”Well, how about hiding a publicly funded audit? But, wait — Vice-Chair Linda Wells discussed “missing” or “unaccounted for” items during a talk last week to a meeting of Republican women.I guess you and other commissioners can selectively “leak” from the hidden audit whatever serves your purposes as long as you want to. At least, so long as you can blame your decision on the unelected sixth commissioner, the law firm of McNally, Fox and Grant.”

Lion says follow the land use plan and adhere to the current zoning. If there is an area that needs special consideration then revisit the land use plan and change the ordinance if it makes sense. Forget the variance. If you grant them a variance for that without pursuing other options then how about me starting Sonny P's Junk Yard and Lion Breeding Center off Goza Road next to the fairgrounds. Other than that everyone of us should be careful when we buy land with a plan in mind and make sure that piece of property along with the zoning requirements will allow the desires of the prospective property owner. If the owner has had the property for many years then perhaps it can rezoned if appropritate. Appropriate is the what will be debated.

Mangy dogs anyway. They'll probably chase me around and doody in my yard.

WakeUp asked you a question about dogs. Stop licking you butt, wipe off your stinky paws and start typing.

Hamster. Just cause you can't lick yourself like I can doesn't mean you have to get all huffy about it. Hope Wake Up doesn't get mad at me but I kind of like the land use plan idea. Don't much like the theory of the developers and such that buy property and start building without checking the ordinances. If you don't like the ordinances or the zoning then get it changed if it makes sense. Variances granted left and right will soon become political. Then to get something done all you would have to do is kiss the Sixth Commissioners ring, he would sprinkle you and then he would grant you permission to break the law.

Mr. Get Real makes some important points about variances. If we are not consistent then later developers will claim the same entitlements. He is right— we need to have a plan and stick to it. It is of great concern when we are not consistent. We end up with spot zoning like the Big Boxes in PTC. At the county level I worry about the unplanned extension of sewer. Specifically, consider the applications for property owners in the county who want to tap on to sewer that originates outside the county lines (the county has no sewer). The Commission allowed one church in North Fayette to obtain sewer from Fulton County but refused a church in South Fayette to obtain sewer from PTC? This is alarming. And when you consider that there will be more applications with the new on-site septic shared systems we need commissioners “on the ball”. Have we ever had anyone in recent years with real business experience ? Maybe that’s what we need.

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GR,
How can I get angry with you my furry (fuzzy) friend? But I did get mad at myself. Your common sense answer was the correct response. Maybe change the zoning or grant an exception if the property was acquired before the land use plans went into effect, other wise, the owners should not buy a piece of property and hope to get a variance.

Now the 6th commissioner; don't we all wish we had a puppet to hide behind?

Let's do whatever we can for dogs and their owners. The people on the cart paths who are walking with dogs are friendly and seem to be good citizens.
The family people are not friendly and further more try to run you off the path. Let's do whatever we can to make dogs feel welcome in our city. When parents and their birth-control failures start to behave better maybe we can welcome them also

Whatcha doin tonight kitty? Those eyes baby just do something for a lion.

You are asking the Wells, Dunn, Pfiefer cabal to be creative and work with the landowner to accomplish something that would be good for the county. That's funny. Don't know how Horgan will respond, but Frady will be for it and the big 3 will vote no (watch Pfiefer look to Dunn for clues on how to vote). And sometime during the meeting the memorable line "We have to follow the land use plan, no exceptions or variances or it will open the floodgates of future requests" will be uttered by one of the big 3.

Free advice - table your request and hope Sam Chapman wins. That will change the power on the commission right there. Maxwell winning will help your request as well, but that's very unlikely.

I respectfully ask Hampster, Get Real, Mr. PTC Guy etc. a question. You want to see change in the County? You want to get rid of Mr. Dunn, Ms. Wells and, I guess when you can, Mr. Pfiefer? Why don't you go ahead and run for their seats? I just found out that qualifying does not end until tomorrow at noon. You still have an opportunity to do all the things that you see that need to be done, all you need to do is step out there and do it. I really would enjoy your comments. I am new to this sight, but I am interested in your feedback

I think the Hampster should run for the commission. As for me I couldn't afford the pay cut at the moment and I am unable to give the proper time and dedication the position deserves. One day when I am financially independent and have fulfilled my parenting responsibilties I will seriously consider doing that. You know though.... I have got wind of one candidate that I might support. Gotta investigate some more. As far as Maxwell and Chapman go they wouldn't improve the scenario any. So one might as well vote for Donald Duck. There...now you've got my feedback. Take a shot. I'm ready.

Well, let's start with the easy stuff - How could a shaved cat be concerned about a pay cut? What do they do - give you a dollar per hour or just some dead fish to eat? As commissioner, you could eat at (dead) Famous Fish every day - call Mike Faulkner.

Parenting responsibilities?? Please tell me the kids or kittens don't look like you.

But seriously, about running for public office - I have been there and done that. I may have won or lost ( no identity clues beyond that) and I don't care to do it again at my age.

Nevertheless, you all have a wonderful point. Want to just complain or do you want to get involved and change things? I have the upmost respect for people who get involved and go through the horsecrap that's involved with running for elected office. I have done that and hate every part of that process. God bless those that do. They are patriots and I love them all.

Even when I disagree with some of them, I still respect them because they had the cojones to step foward and run for office. In a town that has a bunch of lazy, do nothing, pilots and tennis queens who produce a less than impressive 9% voter turnout, those who offer themselves up for public office are truly special.