A letter to Delta pilots from Tampa reservations agent

Tue, 04/11/2006 - 4:18pm
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I am a reservations agent in Tampa, Fla., and I thought that it might be beneficial to express to you what many of us on the front lines feel about the pilots’ position regarding a strike.

I don’t write this to attack you in any way, and in fact, I am probably more sympathetic than most of my fellow agents.

I recognize that nobody wants to have their pay cut, and while many of us that make less than $30,000 a year find it difficult to be sympathetic to a work group that averages over $150,000 a year, I recognize that people tend to live up to their means and a cut in pay for anyone is a real and sincere sacrifice.

That being said, I believe that your threat to strike is myopic and self-serving. I have read some of the material on the ALPA Web site and in a number of places the claim is made that Delta is “Our Airline.”

I beg to differ. It is not only “your” airline. There are about 6,000 pilots out of over 47,000 employees. It is as much my airline as it is yours and yet you hold the power to take action that will not only affect you, but 41,000 other people.

I am certain we could have a healthy debate about contracts and fairness, what you have and have not given, what the company has done or not done ad nauseam. I don’t doubt that there is some validity to your position. No side can be completely right in such a matter.

But the bottom line is that this is not the same industry that it was 10 years ago. 9-11, the advent of low-cost carriers, changes in the dynamics of business travel and rising fuel prices, among other things, have altered the dynamics of the industry forever and an airline simply cannot sustain itself with the cost structure it was once able to.

I find it difficult to believe that if you shut down our airline, the people you represent are going to be able to walk out on the street and find jobs making what they would make even if you accept Delta’s concession in toto.

One line in your letter caught my attention: “It is a sad footnote in Delta’s history that in a business where people matter...”

To be blunt, people are not just pilots and as you chart a course forward, I hope you will take into consideration that there are 41,000 of us out here that your decisions will impact; 41,000 of us that have mortgages, kids to feed, cars to pay for and backs to put clothes on.

We have made our own sacrifices, absorbed pay cuts and benefit reductions and we have hung in there because we believe that if we all pull together, we can turn Delta around and bring her back to the great airline she once was.

Quite frankly, we are angry that 7.8 percent of the workforce has power over the rest of us, that 7.8 percent of the workforce has the capacity to send the other 92.2 percent of us to the unemployment line. Since it is OUR airline, perhaps all 47,000 of us should vote as to whether you strike or not.

I think I am pretty typical of most of the front-line Delta employees. I made less than $30,000 last year. I have taken pay and benefit cuts to stay with Delta.

Why? Because I enjoy my job, I enjoy the ability to travel and I have found Delta to be a good company to work for. But, at what I make, I don’t have a cushion. I live pretty much paycheck to paycheck and I am basically up the proverbial creek if that paycheck stops, even for a short time.

I would guess that most of your pilots have the means to handle a temporary period of unemployment, but most of us on the customer service side do not have that luxury. Is your union going to help me pay my rent and child support if you choose to strike and run this airline out of business?

You have complained that you believe that the company views the threat of a strike as “saber rattling” or empty threats, but I get the impression that you believe the claim that a strike would force a liquidation of the company as an idle threat as well.

I have a background in business and a degree in accounting and let me assure you, these are not empty words. Delta Air Lines does not have the resources to survive even a short strike.

If one looks at the situation objectively, one has to conclude that the pilots’ position is based either on ignorance to reality or that you simply do not care what happens to YOUR airline. Either way, it seems pretty foolish from this vantage point.

Finally, I should add that I work in special member services and spend my day talking almost exclusively to medallion level frequent fliers. I talk to between 60 and 100 people a day and I am asked multiple times each day what I think about the possibility of a strike.

In all of the months that this has been going on, I have yet to ever have one passenger state that they support your position. Most are sympathetic, but state the obvious: the industry has changed and you would be foolish to strike.

I don’t expect this to change your mind, or alter your position, but I felt that it was important, as you move forward, to be reminded of the responsibility you have taken upon yourself.

You are not only playing with the lives of the men and women you represent, you are playing with the lives of 41,000 other people, not to mention our passengers, who have entrusted their money and plans to us in the faith that we will get them where they need to go.

There is only one word that can be used for a course of action that would negatively impact so many people in such a profound way: selfish.

I urge you to endeavor to find some solution to this issue short of shutting down the airline. It is simply not the right thing to do.

Mike Maharrey
Tampa, Fla.

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Submitted by did not know on Fri, 04/14/2006 - 3:11pm.

are suppose to have reached some sort of deal today, the details are not out yet, but I am so happy for myself and everyone else.

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Submitted by Get Real on Thu, 04/13/2006 - 9:16pm.

I'm glad I don't work with the likes of all you Delta whiners. If you clowns would spend half the time you waste trashing each other and the management you would stand a great chance of reviving your careers. Your attitudes have reflected in your job performances for years now and your arrogance has driven loyal customers away. Management is not the only one to blame for Delta's condition. Every one of you Delta employees is to blame. Whining about what someone in management makes is {{{Deleted}}}. All you guys do is blame and whine while not a single one of you is making the extra effort to get Delta on it's feet.

Go ahead Delta pilots. Strike. Go ahead and show em how bad and powerful you are. Be like the Eastern employees and put em out of business. Go ahead and show those mean old management guys how tough you are. Show em how you can take em down like the Eastern pilots and mechanics did to that mean ole Lorenzo. Yeah, Yeah, That's it. That's all Fayette County needs is a bunch of former airline employees and pilots trying to make it as a landscaper. Second thought...maybe that's what we need. You Delta employees replacing our illegal day laborers. Without jobs perhaps they would head South of the border.

Yeah, that's it.

Delta goes under. The pilots go from being a glorified bus driver to landscape hands. The Mexicans lose their jobs and go home. Then another viable business comes in and fills the void where Delta used to be and whammy....problem solved.

Geeez...no wonder our corporations are sending their jobs overseas. They find people who are appreciative of what they have and are willing to produce. Does anyone else get the feeling we're sunk as a nation? Good thing we weren't around in the 1700's. We would still be paying taxes on tea.

Don't pee on my foot and try to tell me it's raining.


Submitted by did not know on Sat, 04/15/2006 - 1:32pm.

the Delta people ARE NOT whiners! In my opion, they have been victomized by bad management, starting with running off Hollis Harris,who was a great leader, Then Leo and Michelle hired off the street. When managment is bad, there is noting an employee can do to save the company, or themselves. They can only watch as someone trashes everything they worked for and their future as well. The current employees have seen their pensions and pay, taken away. You have no right to judge what you know nothing about. But, it does seem to hit a sore spot with you about 'bad managment'. Could you be part of the problem somewhere else? I still favor people pushing laws to close loopholes giving top dogs, a licence to steal. Look at Tyco, World Com, Continental, Eastern, etc...thousands of lives ruined.
I am haunted by a statement made by a well known psychiatrist during the Scott Peterson trial. He stated Peterson seemed a psychopath, he went on to say quite a few company Ceos are.

In case you don't know what a psychopath is, I will tell you. They have no sense of guilt and a profound lack of empathy. They use people callously and remorselessly for their own ends. They are charming liars, con artists, and heartless manipulators. They crave stimulation, and take pleasure from their power over other people. Todays business world has become a haven for them. Downsizing, restructuring, mergers, are the sort of turmoil they feed on. Psychopaths have no difficulty dealing with change. Chaos provides stimulation and thrill as well as cover for psychopathic manipulation and abusive behavior. They jump from company to company, never intending to stay long.

Psychopaths succeed because most of us assume we all share the same values. This makes us easy prey. When we realize we were conned, we don't want to believe it.
A psychopath is parasitic.

Submitted by too bad on Mon, 04/17/2006 - 12:26pm.

It is true, what is being said about psychopaths in todays corporate world. So much so that there are tests, such as Hare's PCL-R, cropping up. It is a tool to weed out vips with psychopathic personalites. I agree the Union could make a difference if they pushed for loopholes to be closed for corporate raiders. They could also push for this type of test to be given new upper managment hired off the street. I think anyone could agree that it is not normal behavior for some new group of management at an airline after 911, when the whole country was in shock, to be eyeballing the survivor pension trust for widows and orphans, for their own good. A large amount of money for the 'bankrupsy proof' pension for that new managment came strait out of that fund. It is one of the most sicking things I have ever heard of. Holis Harris, one of our old good guys, is responsible for saving the reg pension fund for us. We would see him getting on a plane about every 2 weeks going to DC to lobby for the loophole to be fixed so our pension fund couldn't be gutted. Guess he never thought anyone would have the stomach to touch the other one. The Union could follow in Holis Harris's footsteps and finish the job on the preditory corporate psychopaths! Go Delta!

Submitted by did not know on Mon, 04/17/2006 - 5:18pm.

Having any new vip hired off the street take the Hare's PCL-R test for psychopathic behavior would be a good place to start. It would be a good faith effort by present management to show Delta employees that they were working WITH them to make sure this sort of thing never happened again.

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Submitted by Get Real on Sat, 04/15/2006 - 2:09pm.

It's amazing that when things were going well at Delta whiners like you complained out of jealousy about the money these same people made. Now that Delta has been slammed by mediocre management, a mediocre work force, 911, tremendous financial pressures due to fuel prices, bloated employee benefits, union pressures, agressive competition from viable competitors you get your panties in a wad and pull out the victim card. I know more about the corporate culture than you think. The bigger the company is the more it acts like the government. No accountability from the top to the bottom. When times get tough these people don't know how to knuckle down and make something happen because you all have the dependent mentality.

Don't give me that {{{Deleted}}} garbage about not knowing where you come from. In the mid 80's I worked for the third largest employer in Louisiana and lost all of my pension and when the doors shut I didn't get my last months pay. Didn't even know about severance. I did what most intellegent hard working Americans used to do and got another job and never looked back. The pension scheme was designed to fail from the start. Anyone that put the solvency of their retirement future in their companies pension plans is about as bright as the person who places the trust of their retirement in the Social Security system. Go 401K plans!

For every corrupt CEO you mention I can come up with a hundred who are leading their companies in an honorable manner. If the former Delta management bunch you mentioned were that corrupt then they would have been nailed long ago. When times are good for a large company then a monkey could run it. Even you could with massive amounts of money available to waste on bloated pay and benefits.

Quit whining and get on with your future. Stop with all the psychopath babble and do a little self examination. Prepare for the future, face reality, and be thankful for all the opportunities you have in this country. And it might be nice to hear some say how thankful they are for the good times and pay that Delta provide to them while they could. I could go and am prepared to if you choose.


Submitted by did not know on Mon, 04/17/2006 - 6:29am.

If I had read your recent blogg first, 'Democrats will rule Fayette soon', I wouldn't have responded to your comments about Delta people. You just spew venom on every subject and just keep changing your tactic, sort of trowling for a fight. You are sick. I will not respond to you further.

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Submitted by Get Real on Mon, 04/17/2006 - 11:06am.

Yes...if you compare my comments under Democrats will rule Fayette soon to this conversation they are two different subjects. my previous comments were made under the name of Aggressive Progressive. The first was a parody making fun of the Rhino's in this county. But since your a union minded Democrat that blames everyone else for your problems then I can clearly see why you would be offended. Venom...no not really. I'm laughing my tail off exposing your {{{Deleted}}}, blaming and whining. Being serious though I stand by my comments in this blog. Now go to work and make something of yourself.


Submitted by too bad on Mon, 04/17/2006 - 11:56am.

and have to agree with aint that ashame...
you do spew garbage. You have no real thoughts, just hate. Those Delta people have been done badly by past management and the board. They stayed around trying to FIX the problem. As far as calling someone a Democrat.... you profess to be the Democrat in your blog about district voting and that being the only way to go. That you guys are the true leaders, let me ask you, have you checked dosage on the medicine bottles? I think your either taking too much or too little.

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Submitted by Get Real on Mon, 04/17/2006 - 12:37pm.

If you would have read all the post thouroughly you would have conclude that they each evolved into a tounge into cheek parody. If you truly read them all then you would also know that my satirical "spewings" as you call them never touched on district voting. Get informed and Get Real.


Submitted by too bad on Mon, 04/17/2006 - 1:09pm.

are you saying you didn't right this?
"Democrats WILL Rule Fayette Soon
I haven't lived in Fayette County long. But I see the writing on the wall. The Left is about to rise. District voting is coming and all of you good ole boy republicans will be stewing in your own hate. Come back home Emory. Our door is always open."

and
Okay. Racism will not stop until we respect everyone equally. Re-distribution of the wealth as you guys call it would be a good start. This would level the playing field and give hope to the millions of repressed people in the country who come from all races. Regarding Gay rights. If legalized and accepted many of you homophobes would probably take advantage of it. But, on a serious note...the love between two people no matter what the color, gender, or religion should be on equal footing regarding law, benefits,education, housing and financially. We are a country of equal rights and liberty and happiness for all. Diversity in the classroom should not only be taught but lived. Look at the pent up frustrations of your children. You force them and mold them into your image and then you force religion on them, teach them materialism, you pollute the environment and their minds, give them unrealistic expectations and then wonder why they turn to sex and drugs. Which in moderation is alright with me.

Look at New York City and see the diversity and richness of the culture there. The peace and coming together of everyone in difficult times. Now look at Fayette County and selfishness, greed and rage you see as drive the roads in your massive pollute mobiles. Are you guys blind and nuts?????

A plan of compassion, truth, fairness, and acceptance for all is the agenda.

Real Men Vote Democrat

I could go on with more, but the point is made, crawl back in your hole

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Submitted by Get Real on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 9:01am.

If you read everything I wrote you would have come to understand it was a parody that my point was to ulitimately expose the lack of differences between the left and the RINO's you mindlessly elect. Obviously my effort failed. Hamster and Wake Up got it. I'll make you a deal. I'll crawl back into my hole if you'll raise your head out of yours.


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Submitted by ptctaxpayer on Fri, 04/14/2006 - 7:23am.

Seeing big dollar pilots striking reminds me of the comments of Shaquille O'Neal during the NBA strike. Shaq had the audacity to say: "This about us being able to put groceries on the table."

Let's look at the corporate greed issues (Worldcom, Martha Stewart, etc) and ask ourselves---- when all of this high compensation executive stuff was going on --- WHERE THE HELL WERE THE SHAREHOLDERS!!!! They should have voted in new people to run the company.


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Submitted by Janetoutofthebox on Thu, 04/13/2006 - 10:31pm.

Delta can use illegal aliens to replace the Delta Pilots. They seem to be taking all the other jobs us Gringos don't want to do anymore. Well put Get Real. People act like it will be the end of the world if Delta goes down. No doubt there are some savy entrepreneurs waiting for the pilots to finish off Delta.


Submitted by jmatute on Thu, 04/13/2006 - 7:11pm.

I'm retired now. Worked over 38 years with Western and Delta. Lots of experiences, and lots of inside details of workers and company squabbles and labor union strife. My familiarity with grievences by pilots, maintenance, flight attendants, and ground personnel are nothing new. My retirement, medical, and flight benefits are all tied into this thing called Delta. Kind of gives a hollow feeling that one work group can trash everything I have worked for. About the only thing I have to add to the abundance of talking point arguments is that I have never heard any pilot complain that maybe airline management (at any company) may have been irresponsible or derelict for allowing any pilot negotiations to grant such huge and cushy pay and work rules to get so out of hand over the years. Something to think about when one benchmarks what sacrifice and givebacks are necessary to keep the company afloat. With oil creeping up to $70 a barrel, it kind of makes the business plan based on $60 look sick. I just ask all pilots to think deeper than what they outwardly avow. You do what you need to do, but all of those greedy managers that you are railing against are all gone now, and good people are bailing out because of uncertainty. Okay, you have everyone's attention. Be kind and humane in your outlook. If this puppy dies, the gold braid and stripes that you once wore will offer no salvation of respect that you once had.

Submitted by did not know on Thu, 04/13/2006 - 9:33am.

I understand your frustration, but to strike,...you are just striking out blindly at other victims of the same cause. A much more honorable thing your Union could do, would be to force congress to pass laws so no one could gut companies. We are the only country that lets this happen, the only one that pays Vips HUNDREDS of times more than they are worth, while they line their pockets depriving the the workers. Look at Lay and Skillng, one is a preacher's son, now worth over 100 million and is accused of defrauding workers and little old ladies of it. The only defence his lawyer can muster is he didn't know, [too dumb?] what was going on, he was just little innocent 'Bo Pee'! Your Union is strong and you could put and end to this kind of thing. You could strike terror in the heart's of the Leo's, Michelle's, and Lays. They would have to do an honest days work to be paid! You have the power, turn it in the right direction. You are good, strong people, who in your pain and humiliation, have lost your way.

Submitted by did not know on Thu, 04/13/2006 - 8:44pm.

Along the vein of redirecting your anger were it counts, past bad management [thieves?] and the gov standing by and letting them rape companies. I still feel it is best to push congress to change the last great frontier of crooks. The crooks seem to know where there bread is buttered and have spent large amounts of money to get their way....read this...and then rethink what your Union could do as a group to stop this. http://www.tpj.org/pioneers/kenneth_lay.html

Submitted by did not know on Wed, 04/12/2006 - 10:44pm.

I retired after 34 years...I don't hold out much hope for us...I live off my retirement...I am like so many others, too old for another job. After this, I will have no health insurance , and pennies on the dollar pension. The pilots are pissed and so is everyone else. But the real blame is ...THE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS when they oked the greedy pension for ... Leo Mullin and Michelle Burns and their 'others'. You are fighting each other...you should turn your anger to the gov that lets these thieves come in and rape a co and walk away with millions. Our laws make it possible...help change the laws so being a co Vip isn't a legal way to steal!

Submitted by tommytom on Wed, 04/12/2006 - 12:12pm.

Bringing wages of the different job skills is not pertinent to this discussion. I say if you want pilots pay then apply for that job.

I believe a captain with 10 -30 years experience, with such a huge responsibility can't be paid enough. Lives are in his/her hands.

You fail to mention in your letter that Delta wants to terminate their contract and eventually their pensions.

This is what they are fighting for. It's not just their monthly pay check. I'm not with Delta but I won't let them do this to me and you should'nt either.

Submitted by 1bighammer on Thu, 04/13/2006 - 2:17pm.

Yes...management was bad. No...stirking won't help. If you strike...then Delta will close, point blank. But look on the bright side, you won't be working for those managers anymore. Oh and that pesky wife...she'll leave you because you can't keep her in the lifestyle she's become accustom to.

No more managers, no more wife, no job...Wow what a great life!

Submitted by did not know on Thu, 04/13/2006 - 7:31am.

Right now I wouldn't be considering if it was fair or not, I would be looking at my options. I met a man the other day that my heart went out to. He had spent many years in the Airforce. Went to work for Delta as a mechanic, then ASA as a pilot. [ASA is making money hand over fist, always has]. I don't remember how many years at each place, but he broke my heart. He told me he was working 2 jobs to make ends meet, ASA, as a pilot and the 2nd job was construction. He said ASA had just asked for another pay cut and that even though he loved flying, he may have to quit ASA and go full time in construction to support his family. This isn't fair, but it is what is going on. The blame is with bad managment and thieves, but this isn't a Disney movie, and fair doesn't have anything todo with it. If it did, we would see Leo, Michelle Burns, etc in leg irons in the town square and we would all get to throw rotten eggs at them, or on trial with Lay and Skilling with Enron. Don't strike, stay and look for another job in your spare time. If you stike, the wrong people will be hurt. The ones who deserve the blame have taken their millions and run, all with the government's blessing, do what will help you the most.

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Submitted by WakeUp on Wed, 04/12/2006 - 12:23pm.

If a pay rate is directly proportional to how many lives are in your hands, then firemen and policemen are grossly under paid. Let's also think about nurses, soldiers, EMT's, the mechanics keepping the planes in the air, etc.

You get my point. I will agree with a lot of arguments, but the thought high pay is warranted just because someone thinks "I've the lives of all these passengers in my hands" is selfish.


Submitted by Rebecca on Wed, 04/12/2006 - 9:34am.

Not only have the current team members of the Delta Family been affected, but the retirees have been affected also. My father is a retired Delta mechanic and he has also had to make scrafices for the company since he has retired. If the pilots decided to follow through on striking, it will devaste past as well as present employees. I'm also employeed by an airline who happens to be one of the Delta Connection carriers. It will also affect the Delta Connection Carrier Employees as well. I hope the pilots will start thinking about other people than just themselves. I also beleive that the top management at Delta needs to scrafice more.That also goes for the past and present Delta top management.

Submitted by dkinser on Tue, 04/11/2006 - 10:33pm.

Mike,

I do not work for Delta and can only imagine what you and others like you are going through at this time.

Your letter hits to the heart of the problem. A small but powerful minority can decide whether Delta survives or immediately becomes another Eastern. Eastern's pilots thought it wouldn't happen either.

As you state, the airline industry has changed. Customer loyalty is a rare commodity today, but finding employees that care about their company and are willing to make sacrifices is even rarer. Many of the Delta "family" have done just that, made sacrifices. Nobody likes to take a cut in pay or a reduction in benefits, but then again it typically beats the alternative.

Pilots, when you make the decision to put Delta in the ranks with Eastern, I hope you can look at yourself as you fly your cargo around and wonder "could we have pulled Delta back?"

Dana Kinser

Submitted by Write Wing on Wed, 04/12/2006 - 10:07am.

"A small but powerful minority can decide whether Delta survives or immediately becomes another Eastern."

That small minority would be managment...which has hired the same minions who presided over the murder of Eastern Airlines.

Write Wing

Submitted by dkinser on Wed, 04/12/2006 - 10:29am.

I agree with your comment 100%. From what I have seen and heard over the last several years, managment; excuse me, mis-managment is why Delta is in the position it is.

Operating a tier 1 airline in a competitive market with discount airlines is a tough one. But simply slashing prices to compete, places that tier 1 airline on the same level as the discount airline while still trying to provide a higher level of service. Quite simply, I don't think it can be done.

Delta's management team should have decided which category they wanted to belong in and then changed the business model to fit that mold. I grew up flying off and on my entire life. I remember when the seats had more room and the service was excellent. As an adult I would pay a slightly higher cost for a more comfortable flight than to be crammed into a space that the average American cannot fit into. Provide me the comfort and service and I don't mind paying a few percentage points higher airfare.

Bottom line for me, is management still needs to make changes, but the pilots walking off the job kills any opportunity.

Dana Kinser

Submitted by rmoc on Thu, 04/13/2006 - 8:53pm.

I had been a Delta customer for years and for the last few years can't consider it a tier 1 airline. I get more upgrades and better service with Airtran.

Submitted by iluvthebubble on Tue, 04/11/2006 - 9:57pm.

Bravo! Great letter and puts into words what many are thinking, inside and outside Delta. I hope it makes an impression on a few pilots as they consider a strike.

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Submitted by H. Hamster on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 5:09am.

The tentative agreement calls for average pilot pay to be $157,000 and an ownership stake in Delta sometime in the future. Does anyone believe the "rank and file" (to use a union term) will actually vote for that? The $157,000 isn't bad for the actual hours and work performed, but giving shares of stock in a bankrupt airline structured on a 1950's business plan is pretty much worthless.

I hope I am wrong, but I believe the pilots will vote it down.


Submitted by bowser on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 6:59am.

You are wrong. It will pass. Take it to the bank. The deal includes no further pay cuts and raises starting next year. (Btw, the 157k figure was an '05 avg....with the 14 percent from December it will drop to around 130k...still better than Northwest, US Airways and some others.) The TA compensates for the likely termination of the pension plan, and it includes stock. Some pilots will moan and groan about the modest changes to scope clause and furloughee issues, deletion of night pay etc., but believe me they will not take Delta down over that.

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Submitted by Get Real on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 9:11am.

Hope it does pass and everyone get's behind Delta's recovery attempt. I'll fly ya if you stop grumbling. Go Delta!


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