Birthers, Truthers and other Left Progressive agendas

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Every wonder how some things get started..? Take the “Birthers” (please)for an example..Cool

Everyone points to the Right as the “Birth of the Birthers” They could not be more wrong.

The Hilary for President Crowd started this ball rolling and fueled the claims that Obama is not a US Citizen.

They even formed websites dedicated to this agenda and still active today.

Many of the “so-called” Right winged “Birthers” are in fact Liberals in the Democrat party.

So how that is the Right got tagged with this? Oh don’t get me wrong many Right wingnuts have attached themselves like leeches to the cause, but it is still a hard left belief.

The Truthers hold that our Government read Bush knew and allowed the attacks to happen on 9/11/2001.

I won’t even go into these wingnuts.. suffice it to say they definitely belong in the “Birther” category.

Progressives gave us, The Income Tax, Prohibition and “The Great Society”. A system which enslaves more than it frees and Planned Parenthood.

Many on the left just blindly fall into line on the Abortion issue.

Margaret Sanger the founder of Planned Parenthood believed blacks “were just human weeds” that need to be pulled.

If you had birth defects forced sterilization for you.. Eugenics was one of her best sources.

Progressives showed the Nazi Party how to effectively use Propaganda and the future Jewish Genocide was modeled after the Progressive agenda in Eugenics.

Liberals like to point out that Universal Healthcare i.e.. Single payer was blocked by the Republicans.. you know the party of “NO” without ever acknowledging that EVERY SINGLE AGENDA ITEM could be passed WITHOUT a single Republican.

The Democrat party is at a cross roads. They will either completely be absorbed by the Progressive movement in their party or they must stand up for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as written.

Failure to do so will marginalize, I think for generations to come, the Democrat Party and push them to the Fringe of the far left.

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Submitted by G35 Dude on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 11:25am.

Do you believe that JFK was killed by a lone gunman?


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Submitted by JeffC on Mon, 02/08/2010 - 5:55pm.

The Democrats have never been an organized political party; the Republicans have and now they're the ones fracturing.

You think that Palin is a TEAnista, but what's going to happen when she goes against Romney who actually understands economics? She's going to again be shown to be ignorant and clueless and unable to think on her feet because she's to lazy to learn the issues. Romney's going to take the TEA people, at least the ones concerned about economic issues. Palin is going to have to go after that segment of the Party that votes on abortion, traditional marriage, think Christmas has been stolen whenever someone says "Happy Holidays", the birthers and other issues which don't matter that that segment of the Party votes for. That's her base. She can't actually be competitive in a Presidential race without doing interviews and facing the bad ole media. As soon as she does she's sunk with the majority.

Palin wing vs the Romney wing. That's where the fracture action in political parties is going to come from.


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Submitted by S. Lindsey on Mon, 02/08/2010 - 8:31pm.

that Palin is in fact seeking the Presidency in 2012. I doubt that she will.

You guys have to first survive November of this year.. before you can hope for the supposed magical split/rift to occur.

You guys have a little rift going right now as well.. Which side are you on?

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"


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Submitted by JeffC on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 1:02am.

I don't think Palin is actually going to run. What's in it for her? She can't win, why not take the millions?

My side? I would like to see Pelosi lose because I don't like her politics and Reid lose because he's ineffective and a lousy leader. The buy offs over the health care bill in Louisiana and Nebraska were disgraceful. Ben Nelson should be ashamed and I understand there's a fairly sizable backlash there against him. Good riddance. With the Rs abdicating responsibility for legislation, the Ds were forced to make whatever deal they could and it gave too much power to each individual Senator to demand whatever they wanted.

If the Dems lose their majority then the Reps have to get back in the game instead of obstructing every piece of legislation. Not likely that they will but it's possible. Let's see what a Republican passed budget looks like if they take the House. I'd prefer a marginal majority for the Ds but small enough that they have to compromise with the Rs.

Here's the upside. If the legislative Party is different than the Prez, it usually results in a successful Presidential term. If the Rs take the House, Obama will almost certainly win reelection.

Your Party is a danger to the Constitution and my civil rights, mine is (slightly) more dangerous to my wallet. I'm sticking with mine even though it's going to cost me. But I'm holding my nose 'cause the fact is that they both stink.


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Submitted by S. Lindsey on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 8:18pm.

the realities is that the republicans amounted to a dead possum in the middle of I-75.. as far as road blocks went..

They could not block anything.. That's happens when democrats own all three branches of Government..

"Your Party is a danger to the Constitution and my civil rights, mine is (slightly) more dangerous to my wallet. I'm sticking with mine even though it's going to cost me. But I'm holding my nose 'cause the fact is that they both stink."

I would like to challenge this one.. Please explain..

We are not pushing Net Neutrality.. We are not pushing forced purchasing of Insurance.. We are not pushing the tattle on your neighbor program.. We are not pushing the largest power grab in America.. We are not pushing the Deficit to record heights..We are not pushing to recend the 2nd admendment.. WE are not Nationalising the Automotive, Banking and Insurance businesses.. We are not looking to "stimulate" Journalism by bailing out the "Print" media.. We are not pushing the largest attack on industry in Cap and Trade..on and on..

What Civil Rights exactly is "my" party threatening to take from you?

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"


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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 6:01am.

I mean you sound so reasonable - even moderate. I agree both parties stink and i doubt that will change anytime soon. My gripe with Republicans is this stupid obsession with abortion. Any fool can see that it is morally wrong, but not illegal and that this is one (of many) area that government should stay out of.

A Republican budget will look exactly like a Democrat budget - swollen beyond all reason.

And I agree with the founders that opposition is not a bad thing but a well-designed system of checks and balance.


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Submitted by G35 Dude on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 11:24am.

Maybe it's time for a viable third party?


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Submitted by NUK_1 on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 11:36am.

The Libertarian Party is ready for you to join Smiling The problem is that the other two parties have a very entrenched system of keeping any 3rd party candidates off the ballot, whether that's on a national or state or local level. No 3rd party is going to be able to gain any traction until the shackles of simply being able to get on the ballot are lifted and the system isn't gamed any more by Repubs and Dems.

One big warning about the LP....it's not very pragmatic and most people who espouse liberty to their friends are far too scared to live in a society where morals are determined by individuals and society instead of the government on a basis of "it's legal so it's good, it's illegal so it's bad." It's OK to get a 400K mortgage on your 20K income but totally wrong to smoke pot or gamble. Most people prefer the govt to make those decisions for them.


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Submitted by G35 Dude on Tue, 02/09/2010 - 12:42pm.

I hear you Nuk. A lot of people not only want the government to decide whats right or wrong for them but want the government to force their morals on us too. I'm very aware of the Libertarian party and agree with their premise. Still the word I think you overlooked in my post was viable. The Libs will have to find a viable candidate to be a viable party. Ross Perot almost made the Independent party viable until he revealed himself to be a nut. I also understand that the R's and D's currently have a strangle hold on politics. It'll be that way until America wakes up and forces change.


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