that Palin is in fact seeking the Presidency in 2012. I doubt that she will.

You guys have to first survive November of this year.. before you can hope for the supposed magical split/rift to occur.

You guys have a little rift going right now as well.. Which side are you on?

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

I don't think Palin is actually going to run. What's in it for her? She can't win, why not take the millions?

My side? I would like to see Pelosi lose because I don't like her politics and Reid lose because he's ineffective and a lousy leader. The buy offs over the health care bill in Louisiana and Nebraska were disgraceful. Ben Nelson should be ashamed and I understand there's a fairly sizable backlash there against him. Good riddance. With the Rs abdicating responsibility for legislation, the Ds were forced to make whatever deal they could and it gave too much power to each individual Senator to demand whatever they wanted.

If the Dems lose their majority then the Reps have to get back in the game instead of obstructing every piece of legislation. Not likely that they will but it's possible. Let's see what a Republican passed budget looks like if they take the House. I'd prefer a marginal majority for the Ds but small enough that they have to compromise with the Rs.

Here's the upside. If the legislative Party is different than the Prez, it usually results in a successful Presidential term. If the Rs take the House, Obama will almost certainly win reelection.

Your Party is a danger to the Constitution and my civil rights, mine is (slightly) more dangerous to my wallet. I'm sticking with mine even though it's going to cost me. But I'm holding my nose 'cause the fact is that they both stink.

the realities is that the republicans amounted to a dead possum in the middle of I-75.. as far as road blocks went..

They could not block anything.. That's happens when democrats own all three branches of Government..

"Your Party is a danger to the Constitution and my civil rights, mine is (slightly) more dangerous to my wallet. I'm sticking with mine even though it's going to cost me. But I'm holding my nose 'cause the fact is that they both stink."

I would like to challenge this one.. Please explain..

We are not pushing Net Neutrality.. We are not pushing forced purchasing of Insurance.. We are not pushing the tattle on your neighbor program.. We are not pushing the largest power grab in America.. We are not pushing the Deficit to record heights..We are not pushing to recend the 2nd admendment.. WE are not Nationalising the Automotive, Banking and Insurance businesses.. We are not looking to "stimulate" Journalism by bailing out the "Print" media.. We are not pushing the largest attack on industry in Cap and Trade..on and on..

What Civil Rights exactly is "my" party threatening to take from you?

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

I mean you sound so reasonable - even moderate. I agree both parties stink and i doubt that will change anytime soon. My gripe with Republicans is this stupid obsession with abortion. Any fool can see that it is morally wrong, but not illegal and that this is one (of many) area that government should stay out of.

A Republican budget will look exactly like a Democrat budget - swollen beyond all reason.

And I agree with the founders that opposition is not a bad thing but a well-designed system of checks and balance.

Maybe it's time for a viable third party?

The Libertarian Party is ready for you to join The problem is that the other two parties have a very entrenched system of keeping any 3rd party candidates off the ballot, whether that's on a national or state or local level. No 3rd party is going to be able to gain any traction until the shackles of simply being able to get on the ballot are lifted and the system isn't gamed any more by Repubs and Dems.

One big warning about the LP....it's not very pragmatic and most people who espouse liberty to their friends are far too scared to live in a society where morals are determined by individuals and society instead of the government on a basis of "it's legal so it's good, it's illegal so it's bad." It's OK to get a 400K mortgage on your 20K income but totally wrong to smoke pot or gamble. Most people prefer the govt to make those decisions for them.

I hear you Nuk. A lot of people not only want the government to decide whats right or wrong for them but want the government to force their morals on us too. I'm very aware of the Libertarian party and agree with their premise. Still the word I think you overlooked in my post was viable. The Libs will have to find a viable candidate to be a viable party. Ross Perot almost made the Independent party viable until he revealed himself to be a nut. I also understand that the R's and D's currently have a strangle hold on politics. It'll be that way until America wakes up and forces change.