for those they are supposed to represent is a broad statement. if land is zoned commercial and someone owns that land they have every right to develope that land, period. i fail to see why many citizen's fail to grasp this concept.

my only arguement is that we (city council) takes so much time making a decision that hundreds of thousands of dollars in tax revenue become lost forever.

as for looking out for the average peachtree city citizen, without commercial growth comes higher taxes...i have always argued this fact. citizens don't want to pay the extra $2.00 or $3.00 a month for higher taxes (quality of life) but they don't want any developement(that will compliment the tax digest) either. you can't have it both ways.

Use your head, not your behind, Dar. People can't develop land any way they want too. That's why we have zoning laws.

I'm so thankful you keep losing badly in the city council races!!! You would give all the developers free rein to run all over us.

Why don't you just stick to aerobics classes, dumb bells and bleaching your hair? Leave the heavy lifting to people who actually care about the city over turning a fast buck.

Vote Republican

my whole point in my previous position (people not posting their real name on this blog) was in direct reference to people like you. you have nothing constructive to say, you offer no solutions, and you obviously have no understanding of anything.

i did not say that people can develope land any way they want too...you are trying to mislead people. i said if someone owns property that is zoned commercial they have the absolute right to develope a commercial building. yes, they do have to abide by pre-determined city ordinances.

you are one of those who will step over a dollar to pick up a nickle...how's that working for you?

Roadrunner said:
These three have certainly left a legacy of their efforts on behalf of a select few (developers) in their tenure 'serving' Peachtree City. Dar mentions that it's not easy to lead and I would agree, but a major component of this leadership for elected officials has to include protecting the best interests of those they are supposed to represent.

Then Dar Responded:
for those they are supposed to represent is a broad statement. if land is zoned commercial and someone owns that land they have every right to develope that land, period. i fail to see why many citizen's fail to grasp this concept.

as for looking out for the average peachtree city citizen, without commercial growth comes higher taxes...i have always argued this fact.

Now I'm saying:
Dar, you just don't get it!!! Roadrunner was clearly talking about all the breaks Logsdon, Plunkett and Boone were giving developers. They couldn't build the stuff that big without those three giving the developers a break on the ordinances. Are you denying that, Dar???

Your flip comment about how we the poor taxpayers not getting it and wanting it both ways shows just how big your fragile ego can get. We poor taxpayers wanted it only one way by FOLLOWING THE ORDINANCES!!!

Selling the city streets to the big retail developer is no better than being a whore for cash. That's what I meant about a fast buck. I guess you feel the developer had a right to city property too.

Go plug in your Jane Fonda tape and work the stress off, Dar. You're not helping yourself on these blogs.

Vote Republican

I'm curious as to where you shop...the mind wanders....say hey to Steve for me......he's probably in the mirror.

your mixing words yet again...i never said anything about poor taxpayers. my position would actually help the poor taxpayer unlike your position which offers no solutions.

as you state "my fragile ego?" no ego here, i use my real name...thus my ego is in check. i don't have to hide behind a fictional name such as Spear Road Guy. step out in the light and be seen.

Now Dar, when you say, " i fail to see why many citizen's fail to grasp this concept." Those "many citizens" would be the poor taxpayers I was refering to. Do you want me to draw you a diagram?

Stick to aerobics.

Vote Republican

The citizens of PTC were never given a chance to vote on the tennis center-huge FAILURE! We had one corrupt set of elected officials that agreed to an illegal loan, and then we had another set of corrupt elected officials who committed the tax payers to pay off the whole mess.
I never thought I would say this, but you are seeing things very clearly bonker$! The tax payers have taken a big hit.

I don't think the original loan was made by "elected" officials!
The Tennis Pro who left rich wasn't it?
The bank was asleep just as they all were in those "heady" days. Directors and owners pushed bank management above good business practices for personal income!

Where are the investigative reporters these days? Not the Citizen---at the state and national level-- where ads mean nothing to them. Even the AJC is out of that business mostly.

TV stations are only interested in water leaks, pot holes, shortage of cops and firemen, and weather.

why don't the people on these blogs use their real name? most here (not all) couldn't run a popsicle stand but somehow think they could do a better job than any elected official...if only the truth were known. why, because if those here posted their real name(s)it would soon become evident to all, that most are simply out of touch and have no true understanding of most anything.

There are a few of us trolling around on "these blogs" that run corporations with market caps north of $3 billion...$4.7B as of this afternoon. So yes, we do know how to run a popsicle stand and as taxpayers in this city we can complain, bitch and backseat-drive all we want. How does your P&L look these days?

you run a corporation with a 4.7 billion market cap? would love to have lunch, i'm always interested in learning something new.

thanks for your concern regarding my p&l's...2009 has been our best year ever...go figure.

You should study history and you will understand more fully why people don't use their real name on boards like this.

Oh, one more thing that is annoying about these boards, people don’t punctuate correctly.

Don’t you agree?

people should punctuate correctly but something so small doesn't annoy me... i could care less. it's always those stepping over a dollar to pick up a nickle that worry so. concerned with punctuation but refuse to sign a your name...kind of proves my point.

what history do i need to study?

Hmm, well for starters try early American history.

Punctuation simply indicates a level of detail, education and precision. I assume that these aren't part of your skill set or you would simply use them as part of your nature.

Are you the same Dar Thompson that wanted to run for public office?

I am I confusing you with someone else?

If not, what's eating you pal? You do realize that when you run for public office you open yourself to public scrutiny and mockery?

You also know that not all people choose to follow this path. I admire you for wanting to serve but....

"If you can’t take the heat then get out of the kitchen". Oops, but that’s history isn’t it?

Not one of your strong points I gather?

Just a little footnote, if you intend to lecture someone on spelling and grammatical errors, you might want to check your own along with it:

I am I confusing you with someone else?

Dana Kinser

You are correct of course but at least I try. My point was that Mr. Thompson doesn't. I believe my point was lost on you.

Unfortunately I am the product of a public school. It's my misfortune that my parents couldn't afford better.

Waiting for your profound thoughts, I remain,

PTC Obsever

you didn't answer my question...what history do i need to study to justify someone or you not using your real name? did they even blog then?

nothing eating at me...i spend about one hour a year here on the blog. i haven't used my quota for 2009, so i'm trying to get my time in.

your right, my strong points lie elsewhere.

The use of pen names to hide one’s identity goes back a least a millennium, but specific to the American Revolutionary period I would suggest you read these books in the order presented. In these pages you will see that there were men of means and influence that chose not to reveal their identities so they might be more vocal and pointed on issues that had emotional import. Here are but a few of the men that chose not to reveal their identities: Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, John Jay, James Madison, and Alexander Hamilton.

You have a very public business attached to your name and I commend your willingness to expose it to a public backlash, there are others that choose not to do so. There are too many people that rely on the name of the business for their living including investors, employees, and employee families. The issue is simply bigger than one man and his opinions.

Further, it is not necessary or important to disclose names if the logic of the argument is valid. I choose to expose my name in other forums but not this one. You choose the oppose. Bravo!

Here’s your suggested reading list:

PATIROTS the Men Who started the American Revolution by A. J. Langguth (a good overview of this period helps set the stage for the other two books)
The Ideological Origins of the American Revolution by Bernard Bailyn
The Origins of American Politics by Bernard Bailyn

If you would like more reading material past these volumes I have several hundred more to suggest.

Merry Christmas and enjoy

thank you for taking the time to educate and forward information.

hope you and your family have a merry christmas and happy new year!

Dar, an easy example is to look at the history of those who have written political essays. Silence Dogood is an easy example as this name was used by Benjamin Franklin to hide his identity. Why would people want to remain anonymous? Very easy. Let's say I want to critize the Fayette County Board of Education. If I used my real name, wouldn't it be easy for the school system to punish my children or make it harder for them? If I criticize you, would I feel that my property would be sacrosanct when I am working out there? If I become a critic of the PTC police Department, wouldn't that set me up for any issues regarding things such as traffic enforcement, or code violations?
There have also been people who have been stalked and their workplace contacted and harassed based upon using their real name in these blogs.
You should really think through these types of issues before you pass judgement.

Most "gyms" owe more than they are worth! How about yours---now remember no one will finance or buy a gym right now!

Also, "gyms" have taken in more suckers than any other enterprise in history unless it would be Bernie Madoff!
Do you still use "shills" to get people to buy memberships or sign contracts? Still have fake fitness trainers?

I would suspect that there may be several business people on here who are more knowledgeable and straightforward than your crowd.

yet again you speak of things you know nothing of. my gym(s) in ptc have no debt. always looking to build more and pre-approved to do so.

however, i will agree with you, many gyms only care about signing new members. successful gyms are more concerned with keeping the members they have than finding new ones. that has been our key to success...we rank in the top 2% of health clubs in the country in "retention."

i must say it is not me but an exceptional staff and a wonderful group of employees.

i have been fortunate and blessed enough to not to have to lay-off one single employee in these tuff economic times.

More Zumba please!

So sorry that your pocket mouse didn't get elected so that the city could foot the bill on a new business for you dar.
If you were half of the businessman you think you are, you would get those leaky pipes fixed above the hair salon. You have no idea how that has given you negative advertising .

Merry Christmas and let's hope that we all have a Happy New Year.