Healthcare bill in every day terms

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A bit lengthy presentation from a senate candidate from PA. Appears to be fair and balanced.

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S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Sat, 12/05/2009 - 5:14pm.

Cy is right the Madness has got to stop. However I don't think it will. If they don't get what they want here then next on the agenda will be Cap and Trade.. and Global Warming. These guys are not going to give up trying to takeover and grow Government into a massive all encompassing entity.

"A little matter will move a party

but it must be something great that moves a nation.

~Thomas Paine"


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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 12/05/2009 - 3:11pm.

I watched all four parts. I hope the Senate has the courage to stop this madness.
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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Tue, 12/08/2009 - 5:27pm.

They are the only one I found reporting this. Not CNN, MSNBC, ABC.com....well, you get my drift.

"The Congressional Budget Office estimates that up to 10 million people could lose their employer-based insurance coverage under the Senate's health care reform bill.

In new figures out Monday, the nonpartisan office said the net loss would add up to about 5 million -- the anticipated loss of employer coverage on one end would be offset in part by the expectation that a new mandate would drive other employers to cover millions more workers who are not currently covered.

But the estimate assumes many employers, particularly small businesses with low-wage workers, would opt to pay the fine and drop their insurance plans. The CBO estimated this would affect between 9 million and 10 million workers.

The estimate was provided after Republicans pressed the CBO for details on employer coverage, and it added fuel to the GOP argument that President Obama's claim that nobody will be forced to give up their private coverage is bunk. It comes in the middle of a heated debate in the Senate over whether and how the government should enter the market with its own insurance plan.

"If you like what you have you can't keep it," the Senate Republican office said in an e-mail highlighting the CBO report and keying off the president's refrain.

Though some of those who lose their coverage would be eligible for government subsidies to buy insurance, some would not, according to the CBO.

For instance, a family of four making more than $88,000 would not qualify for subsidies and could face even higher premiums in the private market."

I thought the presidential mantra was something along the lines of...well, let's just quote him exactly:

"No matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people," President Obama told the American Medical Association on June 15. "If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what."

Change and "reform" we can believe in for sure.....


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Submitted by Joe Kawfi on Wed, 12/09/2009 - 8:58am.

Now that the libs have rejected tougher restrictions that would have prevented all taxpayers to fund abortions against their will, we can only hope that the libs will, over time, abort themselves out of existence. After all, abortion is an elective procedure and Americans should not be forced to pay for it.

Within 3 days of taking office, Obama signed an executive order to provide taxpayer money to international groups that perfom abortions.

Hopefully, The Roe Effect will reduce the number of libs in the world. Heck, if conservatives are forced to pay for something that we are against, then we might as well get something out of it.
That would be the type od change that I can believe in.

LIBERALISM: The triumph of mindless, wishful thinking over logic, reason, and experience.


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Submitted by mudcat on Wed, 12/09/2009 - 6:52am.

Or at least they watered it down enough to get everyone on board - late last night. These clowns are determined to pass something - and they will.
Next up is a plan to lower the Medicare (and by extension Medicade) age to 55. That actually makes some sense, wouldn't kill off the insurance companies and means that the country won't be completely bankrupt until I'm 70 years old. What's not to like?


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Submitted by suggarfoot on Wed, 12/09/2009 - 8:25am.

the insurance companies honest. With that out the window, the whole thing is screwed. The whistleblower from Cigna said it as well as the insurance companies themselves. Now the rates will not go down and you will still have CEOs of insurance companies with $111 million dollars bonus each year.

I'm voting against everyone in office next election. Dems and Reps, they are all paid off crooks!


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Submitted by mudcat on Wed, 12/09/2009 - 9:17am.

The public option would have put them out of business. Then we would be left with one choice - government health care. Bad choice.

Now, the insurance companies will prosper and be wildly profitable - especially if everyone over 55 is on Medicare.
Unless you are a wealth-envy troll, this is good news because you can buy stock in the health insurance companies if you want. Then you are a part-owner of a profitable business. Something even a liberal can understand.


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Submitted by Joe Kawfi on Wed, 12/09/2009 - 6:44pm.

I'm surprised that they weren't shaped in the form of a hammer and sickle....

White House's Acorn Cookies Surprises Republican Lawmaker

LIBERALISM: The triumph of mindless, wishful thinking over logic, reason, and experience.


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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Wed, 12/09/2009 - 7:09pm.

The Republican lawmaker should be comforted by the fact that the cookies appear to be modeled after the acorns of the white oak tree.

It's not easy being the carbonunit


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