Didn't you know the Science was settled.

""The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." " Thomas Jefferson

The earth's climate is getting warmer, that is a fact.

Human activity, a.k.a. pollution, may or may not be contributing to the warming, that is what is debatable, I suppose.

Pollution is bad, that is a fact.

Control pollution and perhaps slow down the rate of warming, or perhaps just have a less polluted world. WTF is the problem here?

It's not easy being the carbonunit

I'm shocked carbon!!

Anyways, it wouldn't be so bad but some of these cap and trade ideas also provides money to countries like China and India to reduce CO² levels. They want us to pay for it.
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what else would you expect from Cyclist??

me? I appreciate that but I think "Git" and "hutch" have a better handle on being clever.

BTW, since it's a slow day, below is a blog that will give you a full blown belly laugh!!! It's kind of scattered so pay attention to the time stamps. It's a classic!!

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What is so clever about the phonetic alphabet? India Mike Hotel Oscar

How many readers do you think got your title? My guess, it's a low number.

I'm hoping it is a small number. I sure don't want to be in trouble.
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All he left out was "Over!"

How 'bout this senario?
A fella in, oh, let's say Oklahoma, has land that has wind blowing over it on a sustained regular basis. He also has more coyotes than is considered desirable, but that is another story. This fella puts up wind mills and starts to produce electricity with hardly any pollution, just some Oklahoma type grease slinging around. Wouldn't it be nice if this fella could sell his carbon credits to an inefficient coal burner in China, or India, thereby making him some money on the side, gravy for his biscuits as it were, and at the same time making it economically advantageous for the coal burners to pollute less? Remember the first law of carbonunit dynamics: less pollution is a good thing.

It's not easy being the carbonunit

The purpose of cap and trade is not really to lower carbon dioxide emissions. If that were the case, then we would have full faith and confidence that the world outside of North America and Europe would comply. But they will not. China, India, Indonesia certainly will not and their emissions growth greatly dwarf that of the "developed" world. Look up a graph on GHG emissions and growth by country. No, if it passes here, it will not make a difference. what will happen is that the government will act as a broker, making money on each transaction. It is all about money.

And let's be realistic, there is so much crap coming out about the fix--Hadley CRU hacking and release, Briffa tree data being forged, a large percentage of temperature stations being located in urban heat sinks-behind air conditioner exhaust, on asphalt parking lots, etc. They have tried as they might, but they cannot realistically eliminate the medieval warm period. The Polynesians survived when there was a thriving Norse colony on Greenland, complete with farms. The Briffa data was all about eliminating it. So, if the climate is warmer, as it has been in the past, wouldn't it mean longer growing seasons and a shift in cultivatable land? The US is big enough to do okay by it.

Go ahead stick your head in the sand.. It won’t burn ya.. It’s a lot cooler than it used to be.
ALGORE’s movie, which is still being taught in Schools as gospel, has been proven to be a sham.
It is filled with factual inaccuracies, innuendoes and computer generated ice calving and just down right lies. But yet you still believe.. Ok here is some more data for ya..

Antarctic Ice Increasing Link

Climate Catastrophe NOT Link

Climate Change Really… Link

Global Cooling Link

Note none of these sources are from "Conservative" research. They are all very Liberal in fact, but they do try to get the facts correct.

NOAA is a federally funded organization. Ask any Research Scientist.. what happens when you don’t agree with the consensus.. Funding is reduced or cut off.. Their data has been shown to be a “little” inaccurate lately.. Their “Scientist” were found to be recycling old data or simply dismissing the data they were receiving.. I would not trust any Governmental Agency when it comes to this subject.. They are too in the tank for this.

"A Government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson

Last year they had to restate temps two months later due to faulty data and figuring. The gulf stream migrated very close to the US Atlantic coast this year. There was a weak El Nino (that is already almost gone) that NOAA predicted to be super strong this year. The PDO cycle is trending cooler. Polar sea ice has rebounded from historical (as in the last 40 years) lows in 2007.
How low has polar ice been in the past, though? The 1920's and 30's discussed unusual lack of ice at high latitudes. Of course those Norsemen had farms in Greenland about 1000 years ago. But no, this warming is unprecedented.

trends here Wedge, since 1880. Conservative reasoning is funny to me, where extensive extrapolation is performed from narrow data ranges and isolated examples, and regardless of whether they are accurate or not.

It's not easy being the carbonunit

The data that general people use is the famous Mann hockey stick that was so thoroughly discredited that the IPCC pulled it's graph in 2004. There is also the often used chart that shows historical CO2 levels trending up before temperature does. That graph has also been discredited as the real data has CO2 as a trailing, not leading indicator of temp.
I also wonder about the push saying thsat warming is bad. Historically, higher temperatures were a time of agricultural fluorishing. Longer growing seasons, etc. Times of cooling (Maunder, little ice age) were a time of poor crop yields and increased mortality.
If data can show that the Roman and Medieval periods were warmer than today, and there was no rise in ocean levels, what would make it that way today? There is alot of politics and income redistribution and national weath redistribution in many motivations of the IPCC. Only about 10% of them are climatologists or space weather people. Most are marketing, politicos, etc.

Global Warming is alive and well? I love the propagandists. Any data that disagrees with a warming CO2 driven premise is local weather, but anything looking like a confirmation is treated as confirming data. Those Nazis did it all the time, there Indocumentado. That war in the East was always going swimmingly for them Germans, huh?
Sort of like the original drum beater of global warming, Mann getting his proverbial pants pulled down last week. Yamal tree ring data cherry-picked 12 trees over a population of 2000 trees' data. Look it up if you have no clue

to the Global Alarmist.. Global Warming has never occurred. This is a completely unique MAN-MADE DISASTER.. You can point out all you want that Greenland used to be Green and Iceland had Farms.. That the Sahara Desert used to be the bottom of the Ocean that fossilized Amphibians has been found on Mountain tops. But will they even allow those trivial facts to enter the equation... Oh no. Al Gore said we all are gonna burn.. That's all they realize.. That’s all they can think about.

I mean there used to be a glacier sitting on New York for God's sake that was over a mile high. So Global Warming, Cooling, Warming and Cooling are a cyclic trend that has been happening for eons.

I really do not understand the thought processes of the MMGW crowd.. If it has happened before why in heck can it not be happening again? If it has occurred in the past why is it now that we are on the scene our fault?
I mean I can understand the Governments involvement.. Power, Control, Money are all the ingredients needed to brew up this mess. But the regular Joes.. The ones who you would think would have a little common sense.
Well I guess someone had to buy the Brooklyn Bridge after all. Wasn’t it P.T. Barnum that said a SUCKER is born every day?

Hey I got some prime “BOTTOM” land in Florida I would love to sale ya… Cheap.

"A Government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson