Town Hall meeting on Healthcare and Cap & Trade coming Oct. 15

Mon, 10/12/2009 - 6:53am
By: Ben Nelms

The Southern Crescent Tea Party Patriots will hold a Town Hall meeting Oct. 15 on Cap & Trade and Healthcare Town Hall meeting Oct. 15 at 7 p.m. at Christ Church at Whitewater. Organizers said the emphasis will be on healthcare.

Speakers at the meeting will include Dr. Brian Hill, Ron Bachman, Damon Green from the Herman Cain radio show and Rep. Matt Ramsey.

Dr. Hill is a urologist has been interviewed by Sean Hannity, Larry King, Fox News, CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC Nightly News after his recent healthcare-related comments to U.S. Congressman David Scott at one of Scott’s town hall meetings.

Bachman, who spoke on healthcare at a recent Southern Crescent forum, is a Senior Fellow with Health Care Transformation.

Green’s comments will focus on the Cap & Trade initiative.

Rep. Matt Ramsey will provide information on the ways to impact the political process.

Christ Church at Whitewater is located at 1577 Ga. Highway 85 South Fayetteville.

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Submitted by The Truth Will ... on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 8:15am.

Received this message by email from a military family. PASS THIS TO ALL MILITARY RETIREES

This is true. It is on pages 77, 172, 218, and 434. You have to dig tosee the charges. We (retirees) would lose the Medicare for life benefit and would have to pay. We would lose TRICARE as a total care package. We would not be allowed to keep TRICARE so when Obama stands and says if you like what you have you can keep it, he lies.

This is a "Heads Up" on a battle we are facing now and down the road
with the new Administration. The Congressional=2 0Budget Office (CBO)
has already drafted proposed legislation that would basically reduce our TRICARE for Life benefits to a system whereby we pay deductibles and co-pays up to $6,301 the first year for you and your spouse, with future years being indexed to increase with inflation.

What can we do? The article below, obtained from an Air Force
Association and written by BG Bob Clements, best describes what we can do. Please read it and check the links for CBO language and do what Bob says-Send this email to every Military Retiree you know and write and email your Congressman often. For those of you that might have voted for "Change", you should do it more than often!

TRICARE FOR LIFE'S FUTURE.... TRICARE For Life was instituted to correct the broken promise that military retirees would receive free healthcare coverage for life and it covers the Medicare co-pay. Now a heavy assault has begun on Veterans'/Retirees' benefits to pay for other programs our President promised during the campaign. An it is a high priority of his administration. Th e one item of most interest to Retired Military is in Article 189. If approved by Congress the first assault wave would hit in 2011 and would hit hard. It would initiate cost sharing to require retirees to pay the first $525 of medical cost and 50% of the next $4,725 for a first year cost of $2,888 per person. It would be indexed to increase with inflation. A reason given for this action (for PR effect) is "overuse" by Retiree s. For those of you who are covered by TFL you will want to pay attention (Below) to what BG Bob Clements has surfaced about the future of TFL. In any case, on page 189 of the Congressional Budget Office report, see the note below on how to get to that spot, there is a strong recommendation to eventually eliminate the program as it is too expensive. Just another move to slight those of us who dedicated much of our adult lives to the defense of our country.

Strongly recommend that you contact your elected officials and register your strong opposition to the elimination of the TFL program.

Heads-up from BG Bob Clements,USAF Ret(P38 Bob) The following has been added to the Congressional Budget Office Web Site www.cbo.gov/ a. Budget, Options, Volume 1: Health Care (www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=9925)

For those who have never opened one of these web sites from OMB :

1. double click on the above URL

2. click on PDF

3. click on the binoculars

4. do a search for TFL

Now here it is folks and I will guarantee if you sit around on
your behind and do nothing about it as they bring these options forward this coming year, you will lose one of the best healthcare benefits that the Medicare eligible retired military have.It is short of the promises made that we fought so hard for back in the late 90s and early 2000s but it is still the best healthcare program that anyone in the United States Has, bar none.

People who are professionals always look for the channel of least
resistance when it comes to cutting money out of the Federal and DOD
budget. I can tell you this straight on, military retirees are one of
those channels of least resistance noted for sitting around, doing
nothing, and waiting for ole Joe to do it for them. You had better wake up. Your medical benefits are prime target. If you lose them, you have nobody to blame but yourself. Let me repeat that ... you have nobody to blame but yourself. The way to secure your benefits is to write to your members of Congress and to keep writing and writing and writing. ONCE IS NOT ENOUGH!! Keep repeating=2 0the above statement until you are blue in the face. Now I'm going to make one more statement to all of you younger people out there who are not yet eligible for TRICARE for Life. HEALTH CARE WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME THE DOMINATING FACTOR IN YOUR LIFE. Remember that . . . . it will impact you big time with the utmost in cruelty unless you are fortunate enough to die from a heart attack or get run over by a truck. The service organizations will put20up a fight, but, they will need your help and can't do it by themselves. I hope this makes it clear as to what you can expect if you do nothing. To show you how stupid these professionals can be at times just read the data on the noted sites closely. You will see that in spite of the MTFs (Military Treatment Facility) need to get patients back to keep their doctors busy and the hospitals from going to clinic status, these people from OMB would employ a means to keep retirees from using MTF facilities by charging them a fee for services. How dumb can you get. Even if you are an Obama fan, and believe that changeth cometh, TFL option from OMB will not go away. They need the money they spend on you for other programs for people who produce nothing but votes to keepTheir boss in office. If you know of anyone who is Retired Military,Please forward this on to them. Remember- TFL is an "Earned Benefit" that's been granted by a previous Congress.

Submitted by Davids mom on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 8:40am.

Researched facts and analysis

Another new wrinkle in the RNC’s "Bill of Rights" is a claim that Democrats have proposed raising TRICARE insurance costs for retired military and their families. This one is false. It was actually the Bush administration that most recently proposed changes in TRICARE, which the hospital industry said would cost hospitals $458 million in its first year.

Submitted by The Truth Will ... on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 10:04am.

Republicans and Democrats are all the same with all trying to keep their jobs at taxpayer expense. www.wnd.com has new campaign "Pink Slips." The "pink slips" specifically warn that senders will oppose in the next election any member of Congress who votes for more spending, intrusive legislation that restricts personal freedom and more big government programs. Americans have sent 2.7 million slips over past week.

Submitted by Davids mom on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 10:11am.

The "pink slips" specifically warn that senders will oppose in the next election any member of Congress who votes for more spending, intrusive legislation that restricts personal freedom and more big government programs.

I know that won't include spending to support our military families and our veterans who return injured. We must be involved and knowledgeable about what we are 'for' and what we are 'against'. To maintain a strong, healthy country - we must spend. Spend wisely and efficiently. A strong country 'costs'.

Submitted by Davids mom on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 8:58am.

I would suggest reading the letter from the Congressional Budget Office sent to the Honorable Paul Ryan, Ranking Member of the House Committee on Budget. He answered two concerns: Replace the Income Tax Exclusion or Employment-Based Insurance with a Tax Credit and Convert Medicaid to a Defined-Contribution Program. He points out that both of the proposed options would reduce budget deficits. If you are attending the meeting, you might want to clarify Director Douglas W. Elmendorf's analysis and response.

I did 'look' at the proposed budget. In reality, we all know that cuts have to be made. However, from my understanding, the proposals cost less than the escalating cost of health care. Hopefully, we will learn the TRUTH about the effects of the proposals.

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Submitted by Joe Kawfi on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 9:07am.

Too bad the majority in congress is moving to block we the people from seeing the proposed legislation. Truth is, they don't want us to know the TRUTH, because they know that the majority U.S. Citizens are against their scheme to nationalize medicine.

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.


Submitted by Davids mom on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 9:46am.

Many have been tracking the progress/lack of progress of these bills (House and Senate) on line for some time. It's not difficult.

You can start here

And participate here

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Submitted by Joe Kawfi on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 11:35am.

I want to see the final version DM. These nimrods in congress are changing it by the minute - We the People demand to see the final version posted a minimum of 72 hours before any politican votes on it.

Trouble is, the author of the bill - Baucus - claims that it's too difficult to post it online. The same folks that want to take over healthcare in America have the audicity to claim that it is too difficult to post a document online.

Well, isn't that special. And you trust these folks?

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.


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