Are we carrying the old Sheriff's bagage?

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I was at a cookout this weekend and was told the following story; That when Johnson became Sheriff he had a secretary named Linda. That through the years she eventually gave herself rank like the officers had so she could be paid more money although she had no police training at all. Supposedly she eventually began making all the deputies call her colonel even though she had no training. Her salary which she set, went up to over 100 k a year AND STILL IS TODAY. It was said that part of the deal for Johnson to support the new sheriff was that he had to let her keep her job and her high pay. IS THIS TRUE? WHY WOULD THE COUNTY ALLOW THIS? Why would a new sheriff allow it if he owed her nothing? Again I was told she had no police training at all. CANT THE COUNTY BE SUED BY THE DEPUTIES FOR THAT since they had to go through the training?

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Submitted by potluck on Tue, 09/29/2009 - 1:55pm.

Don't ask a deputy, they'd be too afraid of her to talk. Ask any Officer from the Peachtree City Police Department. We were obviously not afraid of her.

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Submitted by Buck on Mon, 09/28/2009 - 4:57pm.

You are entirely too intense about this not to be somehow personally involved. I heard talk. I asked. That's what blogs are about. Don't try to intimidate me into not asking questions about public officials. I've moved on to other thoughts, you should too. But I leave this subject with the same opinion I came here with. The woman obviously does not have any police training so trainied officers shouldn't be calling her by rank, ecspecially if she started as a secretary and rose through the ranks other than by profesional training. I respect anyone who works at one place that long but I don't believe anyone should be "grandfathered" in to an officer's position. And I still have problems with that pay, which apparantly is true, for an administrative position. And if you are representing her, which obviously you are, I resent the anyone from the sheriff's department thinking they are above being questioned. I intend to ask the next deputy I see on the street how she or he feels about this.

Submitted by Atilla the Hunny on Tue, 09/29/2009 - 12:48pm.

I am kind of new here but I didn't get anything about fangs here. You asked a question and it appears that someone took the time to answer. Dark seems to have genuinely gotten interested in your topic and looked up the answers. Am I wrong? Was you question just rhetorical? If I knew my way around town better I think that this is just the sort of thing that I would have been interested enough in to go look up. Like I said, I am kind of new here and don't know the rules of blogging.

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Submitted by DarkMadam on Tue, 09/29/2009 - 6:57am.

I research anything that gets my interest. The person in the story had less to do with it than the story itself. However, I am glad to hear that you didn't question the facts. I just became interested enough to find the answers you were asking for. I would not think that would be a problem. Now I can let this sleeping dog (this particular story) lay. Thanks again for the challange. I really enjoyed the research!

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Submitted by Buck on Tue, 09/29/2009 - 5:12pm.

You couldn't let it go. I raised an issue of what I was told of a high paid secretary making the deputies call her colonel when she had no police training. I definately hit a sore spot so there must be some truth to it. You guys who said you did research didn't tell me anything that made be feel any better about. As far as Attila, please honey your as transparent as saran rap. I'm not the ripest watermelon in the pile but I'm not believing you moved into town three days ago, got a screen name and found these post and jumped right in. Darky, all I decifer out of what you said is the government came in and did a study and anointed public emloyees high salaries and you claim that the fact that somebody was called colonel didn't affect her pay. That's hard to swallow. Everybody knows those kinds of studies can be manipulated. I didn't do any sophisticated research, I just called my friend about what your saying. (He thinks this is all hilarious by the way) His point is still the same. No ones answering the question. IS THE SHERIFF'S FORMER SECRETARY STILL WORKING THERE AT A HIGH SALARY WITH NO POLICE TRAINING AND MAKING THE DEPUTIES CALL HER BY WHAT I'M TOLD IS THE HIGHEST RANK A DEPUTY CAN EVERY GET. I never thought one blog would cause such a fuss but the hit cat is definately holering. Research this darky. Does she have police training, a police academy or anything to warrant the highest rank you can get? I mean its great that she's work there so long she must'v been a kid when you went there. But if she's not had training, to me she's still just an overpaid secretary. That's just my opinion (and some others I know too,) and having everybody she knows blog about it won't change it, but its just an opinion anyway. Do deputies who have had that police academy training have to answer to her and call her colonel? That has always been my question and that's not been answered so I know it must be true. The only reason I keep resonding is because I'm interested now watching all the squirm'in. It's obviously true. There's obviously nothing I or anybody can do about it so fine whatever. Don't go wastin any more gas darky. At least the public knows about it now.

Submitted by Atilla the Hunny on Tue, 09/29/2009 - 6:20pm.

No I am not that new to the county just new to the paper. Moved to fayette in December of 2008. Was laid off from my job last month and with 2 kids in school, just discovered the blogs here. Never had time for this before. Not sure what I did to you here. I was just reading and commenting. My intent was never to tick anyone off.

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Submitted by DarkMadam on Tue, 09/29/2009 - 6:53am.

Thats what I get for trying to use my cell to answer! :~)

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Submitted by DarkMadam on Mon, 09/28/2009 - 2:48pm.

Buck, I read this thread over and came to my own conclusion. It was time that someone, namely me, looked into this properly. Not just let people drag someone through the mud without having the facts. I did the research. If you doubt what I am about to say, you will need only to go to the county records to see that every word and fact is absolutely true. This person that you speak of has been with the sheriff’s office for 33 years. Her starting date is the exact same one as Sheriff Johnson’s. Her title is Director of Administrative Services. There are four Divisions inside the Sheriff’s department and she is the current head of one of them. It is a matter of public record what the pay range for the position is. Feel free to go and look it up for yourself.

The county hires and outside company to evaluate all county positions, job duties and set pay scales for all positions, which is then approved by the county commissioners. There are no positions that have the ability to set their own pay scales. Not even this one. To put this into terms that you might understand, it is structured like military or government pay scales. Every position has a detailed job description and has a pay range consisting of the absolute lowest and the absolute highest that ANY person can earn in the given position. This is true for the every single position with the county. I was easily able to verify that the position that this person holds has a pay scale based entirely on the position itself. The title of Lt. Colonel has absolutely nothing to do with the pay scale.

Now as to the reason I wrote this. I wanted to know the truth! If my taxpayer dollars are being misspent I wanted to know for sure what was what. It only took me 2 days to unearth this information and truly hope that this will put this issue to rest. I took the time to do the research before putting the info out there. I can only hope that next time you have a question you too will take the time needed to blog the correct information. You were asking if what you heard were true. I think that you now have your answer.

Submitted by Atilla the Hunny on Fri, 09/25/2009 - 7:12pm.

Do you really believe that this woman is JUST a secretary? It sounds as if you are saying that all she does is type memos and answer phones. I see that you were asked a direct question. What are her job duties? I don't see an answer to that. And just one more question. What EXACTLY is YOUR dog in this fight? I can't seem to see an answer to that either. There is an astonishing lack of information in your original blog and a whole lot of rumor and innuendo. I just had to ask...

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Submitted by Buck on Fri, 09/25/2009 - 7:46pm.

I already posted, I don't know the players. I don't even know how much of what was said is true. THAT IS WHY I WAS ASKING. "Its sounds as if you are saying that all she does is type memos and answer phones." ???? Go back and read my post. I never said any of that. I DON'T KNOW. Didn't really get any answers but the people who post for her really seem to be on the defense. My whole question on the matter has never even addressed. If she is called captain or colonel or whatever, did she go through the same process as the other deputies or was she brought up from the position of secretary out of favoritism?

I've noticed with alot of these post, when you ask a question you never really get the answer you just get alot of explanation as to why things are the way they are. I guess that is an answer within itself. If she didn't pay her dues like the other officers she shouldn't have the rank OR the money.

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Submitted by DarkMadam on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 4:10pm.

Who cares about a title? Are you suggesting that this woman does not earn her pay? And I just have to ask... After reading your blog I was left with several questions. What prompted you to write this? Keep in mind I am just asking a question and not trying to start a fight. Do you have an ax to grind here? Has this person personally offended you some how? How did you come to gain the knowledge of her income? Shouldn't that be personal information? Something just feels wrong about this and I don't have quite enough information to know exactly what it is.

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Submitted by Buck on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 4:18pm.

I said in my post why I wrote it. I have posted that I had no ax to grind. Noone has personally offended me but you. I did not question her gender I questioned her lack of training. EVERY government employees salary is fair game for discussion and is absolutely not personal information. The only thing that feels wrong is that you were able to read my post without actually reading my post.

Submitted by Ellie Mae on Fri, 09/25/2009 - 2:11pm.

Is the reason that you wrote it because "you heard the story?" It wasn't that clear to me either.

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Submitted by DarkMadam on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 6:14pm.

Apparently you missed the part where I was not looking for a fight. I just had some questions. It was not until I posted that, That I saw the other post. It was not there when I began typing out my questions. I apologize for offending your delicate sensibility by voicing my questions. I said nothing about you questioning her gender. Maybe to be P.C. I should have said... Are you questioning this "persons" ability to do their job? What is the exact position that this person holds and are they qualified for that exact position, titles aside? You are very quick to go on the offensive. I read where you heard it as a "story". I was just curious as to what would get your ire up so as to blog. No harm, no foul. ((Still not looking for a fight)) Gez!

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Submitted by ilockemup on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 3:12pm.

You got it right, Buck. Linda's pay increases and artificial rank were the same deal as when Bruce Jordan was given the bizarre rank of Lt. Colonel. Always who you know rather than what you know.

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Submitted by Buck on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 3:35pm.

Are you saying Jordan didn't have that training either?

Submitted by lifeinptc on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 3:31pm.

Once elected we have to let him run his office and wait for the results.

P.S. The rank of Lt. Col. is not bizzare. It is the rank Sheriff Hannah held before taking office. Many Sheriff's Offices in Georgia carry that rank. It is the rank above Major. Some Sheriff's even have full bird Colonels.

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Submitted by ilockemup on Thu, 09/24/2009 - 2:39pm.

The point is that you don't pay a secretary a hundred grand. And the reason why this small department had Lt. Col. to begin with was to justify the paygrade. If you are denying that there are some big pay grade issues you don't know the SO.

Submitted by Ellie Mae on Fri, 09/25/2009 - 2:08pm.

Since you seem to know all.... What are this persons official job duties? Is there a place that I can go to see a list of job duties? I can't make a judgment call on this without all the info. And there is so little real info located here. I am not willing to say anyone is not worth what they are paid not knowing in full the job description and the persons performance in that position. I am staying out of the rank portion of the conversation. But I am curious about the rest. (And to everyone else here... why do you all have to be so sarcastic to each other? Every one is entitled to their opinion with out being verbally abused... even you)

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Submitted by ilockemup on Fri, 09/25/2009 - 2:30pm.

Cops don't make a hundred grand. Secretaries in law enforcement should not either. This was a sweetheart deal and everyone knows it.

Submitted by AtHomeGym on Thu, 09/24/2009 - 6:22pm.

I concur that no admin person should be paid 100K annually. Also, I can't imagine any justification for any admin person to hold a "rank" of any sort. I can't imagine the professional officers of all ranks allowing this to happen without official complaints. It is clear that Sheriff Hannah has no problem making controversial personnel decisions. I can't see him allowing this issue (if it really is one) to disrupt morale in the entire office.

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Submitted by Gene61 on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 2:58pm.

Personally, I miss Randal Johnson, In essence the story is saying that his support for the current sheriff was bought and paid for, a
quid pro quo . the whole situation sounds like someone who has an ax to grind, or someone who never like Johnon anyway.

As for myself, I little use for the current sheriff. I just hope he doesn't screw up things. Maybe he'll grow on ne, who knows. If he wants to impress of us here in Fayette County, go atfer those who operate on our roads without Driver Licenses or proper insurance ..

Submitted by normal on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 3:31pm.

Dropping a net over the illegals and shipping them back over the border.

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Submitted by Buck on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 3:15pm.

Don't know the players

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