Garlock ‘guilt-ridden’ over Vietnam service

Tue, 09/01/2009 - 3:26pm
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Re: Terry Garlock’s column. First, I want to tell you that you are forgiven. You were young, naive, and doing what you thought was patriotic. Your recent column in The Citizen, however, is inexcusable.

Someone has to say it — you are guilt-ridden ... bolstering your own ego by reminding us (the readers) of the sacrifices and suffering you endured during those tumultuous years as a wind-me-up soldier who is guilty of not questioning authoritative figures but being a major part of the problem as well.

Your frequent tirades defending the Vietnam war, which was not only immoral but indefensible as well, are so old ... boring ... and embarrassing.

To use (and insult) the peace-loving generation, some (of literally millions of U.S. citizens) as well as intelligent, compassionate people around the world ... some (a fraction) ... who attended Woodstock ... refusing to be drafted into an unjust war — were so much more patriotic than the blind and willing “soldiers” who participated in the atrocities blanketed under the U.S. flag.

Again, you are forgiven for your naivete at such a tender young age, but it is time to grow up. You were wrong, we were right.

The “Woodstock Generation” were not all spacey, flower-waiving [sic], dope-smoking, tripped-out hippies. Most of us were conscientious, educated and maybe a bit guilty of wanting a peaceful, unified country.

Most of those who opposed the war did not treat the returning military with disrespect. The country was tired ...tired of being lied to ... tired of the death and seemingly endless destruction ... people were moving on and, if anything, were apathetic to the victims (gullible, narrow-minded military personnel) and did not want to be associated with the corruption.

To stereotype all who opposed the war as “baby-killing shouting hippies” is dishonest. Shame on you. To ask for honor is a bit ... psychopathic.

As a veteran, I’m sure mental health services are available to you for a nominal co-pay (get it while you can).

To argue that you would do it all over again (knowing what you say you now know) is sad, to say the least.

Get off your high horse and ask for forgiveness. You may find yourself sleeping better at night ... although it may take a while for the nightmares to settle down.

But you can do it. After all is said and done, you’re still a soldier, albeit misdirected.

I WILL say thank you for your service to your country, but that wouldn’t mean you did the right thing. The next time you find yourself at a Coweta County high school lecturing to a group of bored, yawning students, maybe you’ll think of this letter.

Peace and love be with you.

P.S. Might I suggest a song from that era? ”License to Kill,” B. Dylan.

David Markham

Fayetteville, Ga.

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Submitted by PTC Observer on Wed, 09/09/2009 - 4:21pm.

It is difficult for me to recall the war without it overtaking my senses and sensibilities. I served my country as a Corpsman attached to the Marines. I do not talk about my experiences and do not wish to do so here. Everyone that served has a story, told or untold.

All of those that served during this war, like all wars I suppose, did so imperfectly. Not all served with valor and bravery. Some did so with greater devotion and sacrifice than others. Some were simply killed outright and are now just a name on a cold black stone wall. However they all served. Whether they were drafted or volunteered they did their duty to their country, they did not shirk their responsibility to past generations. They did not run.

This is what makes them quite different than faint hearted souls like Mr. David Markham. Good for Mr. Markham, good that he had good men to serve, so he could be critical of those that did serve. It seems to me if there is one person in the world that is guilt ridden it is Mr. Markham.

Fear accentuates both the best and the worst in men and war if nothing else steels character for a lifetime. We can never go back and right the wrongs in life, war is not elegant, and it is not gilded with fine thinking and detached hyperbole like Mr. Markham’s.

There were cowards on the battlefield and cowards at home but the ones on the battlefield served their country by risking their lives.

I will never forget the fine young men that I knew that served our country, I will remember my fallen comrades every day for the rest of my life, and will never regret being called “doc”.

It is an honor to have served with such men.

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Submitted by grassroots on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 1:54pm.

Before I comment, I believe the letter in the printed section of Sept 2's Citizen answering Terry Garlock regarding this topic is more tactful and accurate. Having said that:

"If elected I will bring home the troops." Richard Nixon and Barack Obama. Both elected, both lied.
The country responsible for exporting the majority of the world's heroin during the war: Vietnam and Afghanistan.
This war was not fought to win but preserve democracy. Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan.
If we don't continue and escalate the war the domino theory is the enemy will take over that region of the world. Vietnam, Korea Iraq, Afghanistan.
These were never officially declared wars and denied Vets the proper benefits and treatment upon returning home. Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan.
The combined cost of these undeclared wars is in the trillions.
The WW2 generation is the so called " greatest generation." They got us into Vietnam, Korea, and were behind the scenes in Iraq, and Afghanistan. They also were on the Supreme Court that threw prayer out of schools and voted to legalize abortion. The '60's generation is getting blamed for a lot if misinformation and history revision. There are heroes and idiots in every generation. The problem is the heroes fight the battles while the idiots from the White House and the Pentagon continue the manufacturing of wars and weapons while appeasing the drug lords by guarding the poppy fields of Afghanistan with 30,000 troops. Nothing's changed. The flow of blood, drugs and money. It's Deja Vu all over again and again. If you haven't lived through all this just Google it.

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Submitted by Don Haddix on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 12:35pm.

This is a personal comment.

I know and respect both gentlemen as Vets and friends.

From 1969 to 73 I served in Intelligence. I knew the hows and whys of what was going on in Nam and our dealings with Russia and other hot spots. I dealt with the Nam withdrawal.

It is utter foolishness to blame the guys in uniform for what Washington did and the lies they told the American people. They didn't know why, just the jobs they were given in the name of defending their country, which they served with honor to fulfill.

Vets working directly with Nam, all fields, came away with memories and impacts that will be with them their whole lives. Sadly, the 'welcome' homes from some are part of those memories.

I was called a 'Baby Killer' and even had a car full of those 'peaceful' people drive up on a sidewalk and try to hit me. Not a lot of room to run between a building and a street.

The real question is who had more honor? Those who served when drafted or if they chose to enlist or those who ran when drafted? Reality is for everyone who ran someone else took their place.

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Submitted by Mike King on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 2:09pm.

Being one of the few honest elected officials I know, are you not stretching it a bit when you refer to two former Army Aviators as "gentlemen". Our wives would get quite the chuckle. There are a few members of the Peachtree City Pucker Factor Liar's Club that I know stand ready to give both Terry and I grief, but I digress because those guys need no excuse.

Thank you not only for serving your country, but also for continuing to do so at the community level.

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Submitted by Don Haddix on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 4:22pm.

The gentlemen might be a bit of stretch. I agree on the chuckle from the wives.

But no stretch on the rest.

Don Haddix
Candidate for Mayor

Submitted by MacTheKnife on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 8:41am.

I see the typical liberal projection is still your tool of choice. Indeed, it is you Markham that should ask for forgiveness for enjoying the fruits of OUR labor while avoiding your responsibilities as both a man and an American.

I know that hiding out in college and arguing that the 'war' (any war that YOU would actually have to serve in) is unjust is the only way to have to justify your cowardice; however, it will only satisfy your attempt to suppress your guilt for a short while. Eventually, you will come to the realization (as you clearly have) that the decision was not yours to make and your responsibility was avoided to do your overwhelming fear, selfishness and sheer cowardice.

Sooner or later David, in the still quiet morning, perhaps while shaving, you will look in to the eyes of a coward who avoided his call to duty.

Terry and thousands of other will, on the other hand, look in to the eyes of a man, a real man, who served and who survived. We will recount with great love and affection the men we served with who did not survive. We will wonder how those other 'brothers' who survived dealt with the tremendous loss and pain and the scars that you will NEVER be able to comprehend. We will look at ourselves filled with pride because we know that we rose the occasion and answered the call. We did so because we were called to serve and it was right thing to do. We did it so self aggrandizing and pathetic excuses for men like you can freely criticize those of us who risked all so we could life with pride and honor and our families could have all of the fruits of freedom. Although you ride the coat-tails of that freedom I for one will never say I did what I did so YOU could voice your jealous, guilt laden, twisted diatribe on the wounded heroes of our military that provide you with the freedom to prove yourself an idiot.

The two things you will never get from me are an apology and any semblance of guilt for serving my country honorably. While I do not speak for Terry Garlock, he is my brother and I know him. I know thousands of veterans who like me have dealt with both the long term and short term consequences of fulfilling an obligation to God and country. I can tell you without reservation that the only guilt I have ever felt as a result of my military service was the guilt of surviving while my brothers fell.

You on the other hand hope that belittling those who faced a greater cause with courage while you hid in fear will somehow relieve you of your guilt for your obvious failure to step up to your national responsibilities and Davey boy, it will NOT.

In short, on behalf of all of the men who proudly served I would like to say that you are the maggot, the "jody", that our D.I.s loved to refer to. So, in conclusion, in honor of SSGT. Renaldo Gonzales, kiss my olive drab ass you brain damaged liberal homo.

Perhaps the next time you shave in the quiet of the morning you will remember this letter, and look in to the eyes of a coward and come to the realization that you are living a lie, and the well deserved guilt from your cowardice can only be alleviated by apologizing to all of the honorable men and women who proudly served in the United States Military.

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Submitted by Mike King on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 7:41am.

I guess that I have been waiting forty years for the opportunity for an intellectual like yourself to explain how my life went so wrong. Now I'm going to have to give a call to the orphaned daughter who never met her crewchief father and tell her that her loss was in vain, according to you. I'm going to call some fellow veterans who get by minus the use of sight, legs, or arms and let them know that according to you it simply wasn't worth it. The next time I stroll the paths at Arlington or visit that black granite monument, I'll certainly keep your sentiment in mind.

You are correct in that most who opposed the war did not look upon returning military with contempt, these folks were actually in Canada. You know the ones that President Carter pardoned, those intellectually honest souls that didn't hide behind various school deferments or phony sports injuries, or in many cases joined the National Guard to avoid overseas service. To you the shunnning at airports, bus or train stations, colleges or universities during that era was but a myth.

Gentlemen like Terry Garlock would ask that you get your head out of the sand and attempt to understand a part of our nation's history that you may or may not have experienced. For veterans like myself I prefer to tell you to get your head out of your ass for there are people like myself who have yet to forget the humiliation of being spit upon, told not to travel in uniform, and in general being treated as a second class citizen.

Might I suggest a song for you. "Long Haired Country Boy" by C. Daniels.

Submitted by tgarlock on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 8:27am.

For those who don't know him well, I want you to know something about Mike King. In Vietnam Mike flew the Hughes Cayuse OH-6A, in our lingo the "Loach" for LOH (low observation helicopter), a highly maneuverable small bird.

I flew gunship cover for Loach pilots now and then. They were known as "Scout" pilots and I always thought of them as extremely bold. Their high-risk - and therefore volunteer only - job was to fly low and slow to find traces of the hidden enemy and to draw their fire to expose their position. Guys like Mike flew under big trees, parted vegetation with rotor-wash, looking for footprints, campfires, weapons and food caches or any other trace, and while doing so being ready to be shot at any moment at far too close a range for me!

Mike did his duty, and he was shot down 5 times in Vietnam, 6 if we count the time he turned too steep too fast for his gunner to adjust and shot the tips off his own rotor blades.

When Mike came home, still looking very young, instead of disrespect it would have been more appropriate for him to be referred to as "sir." And he is just one of them, the 20-somethings who stood tall, the reason I keep writing about what many think of as the irrelevant distant past.

Terry Garlock

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 8:51am.

As you both know well, a determined few don't get it. They don't want to get it. It's like Obamatron as Commander-In-Chief of the Armed Forces, what a waste.

I was there and will say things didn't always go the way we wanted it to go, hey, that's war.

I'm not sure you should even respond to a piece of trash letter like this one. I don't always agree with Mike's politics, but I'm going to respect him for sticking his neck out for his country and taking the tough assignments when offered.

Vote Republican

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Submitted by NUK_1 on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 5:12am.

That was too much for first thing in the morning, but old, smelly hippies have opinions too, though most are wise enough to keep them silent when it comes to amateur psychoanalysis of others or talking about a history that they know little about beyond "wow..FREE LOVE...I can finally have sex with someone! Thank God for drugs!"

Submitted by tgarlock on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 9:21pm.

You are entitled to your views, but you are so wrong about so many things you said I don’t know where to start. So I’ll tell you just a few things.

First, the war was not immoral, it was a noble cause of stopping the spread of communism in that region. It certainly got to be a screwed up war with a patchwork of limitations and rules that tied our military’s hands and prevented them from using overwhelming force to prevail. But actually, you guys on the left sold your false message so well that America never realized the real problems in the war. Those stupid limitations certainly got lots of Americans killed needlessly, and so did the encouragement your friends gave to our enemy.

I spoke to the high school class last Thursday, and I can report the kids are bright and very interested, not bored and yawning as you said. As always, I started my talk and powerpoint slides with 3 points of introduction:

1. If I could only teach you one lesson from the Vietnam War it would be “Think for yourself” and don’t be led by the nose by TV news lest you misread the history you live through.

2. Why are many Vietnam vets still angry? Because the truth about them and their war was never really told.

3. Even though the Vietnam War is ancient history, why is it most relevant to young people like you? Because when you know how the truth was bent out of shape in the political struggles over the war, you might be better equipped to be an informed citizen, you might be able to guard against the agenda fed to you on TV. And to do that you should develop the habit of reading two good newspapers, one that leans left, and one that leans right.

When the dust cleared from the Vietnam War, it was your friends on the left who prevailed, who became leaders in our mainstream media, who now occupy academic chairs in our universities. If they had objected to the war and avoided or refused to serve, ask yourself through what prism they viewed the war, and the decisions they made, as they took history’s pen in hand to write their version in our children’s schoolbooks. When they distort the war’s history by emphasizing the negative and suppressing the positive, perhaps they are legitimizing the actions they themselves took long ago. Perhaps.

But one thing is certain. The truth about that war remains shrouded in myths, half-truths and political agendas, and so long as I have breath I will tell what I believe to be the truth. I will do that not only to set the record straight, but because if America ever recognized the truth vs the lies at last, maybe the public would be less inclined to turn into a herd of rats following the TV news pied piper.

Meanwhile, my conscience is clear.

Terry Garlock

Submitted by Bonkers on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 6:06am.

Oh, the horror!!! the horror. (!)

As a very young participator in a similar war, and I went because I needed to grow up, I can say that both Garlock and Markham are both wrong to some degree.

I did grow-up and do not need to know any more about it than the fact that I appreciate what the military disciple did for me and for what education I received for being there.
I knew Little to nothing while serving about the "horror" of it in the overall. I had a little job in a little area and was asked for no decisions about strategy and little about tactics.

Those who made the military a career usually completely overlook the bad parts and feel unappreciated for the "sacrifice" they did. There is some truth to that for most of them.
Most of the blame goes to politicians and meek commanders.

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Submitted by SPQR on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 9:56am.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank YOU for your service and especially thank you for not constantly bringing it up

Submitted by MacTheKnife on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 8:44am.

Take your meds.

Submitted by tgarlock on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 6:47am.

Bonkers, you raise a decent point that I would put this way - no matter which side of any argument we are on, it is human nature to believe what we want to believe.

As for me, I was not career military, I served less than my 4-year hitch with an early out and was done with the military in 1972. I would have been a misfit as career military because the structure, spit-and-polish, marching, saluting and laser-like focus on the rank pecking order made my head hurt. But I am proud to have served.

And it certainly is true that I saw only the microcosm of my personal experience with the war, which in my case was mostly between the treetops and 1500 feet just out of small arms range in the middle south of the country, called III Corps.

Not only that, but my attitude about the war evolved as I grew older, matured and learned more through observation, reading, collecting information with a very skeptical view.

One thing that never changed was the permanent admiration I brought home for the young Americans fighting the war. America should have been proud of them, but that didn't happen because the political struggle turned Vietnam into a matter of national shame. That's part of the reason I continue to write about it. Joe Galloway, a legendary war correspondent who spent 4 years in Vietnam, said this about our guys in Vietnam, "They were the best you had, America, and you turned your back on them."

I know all this sounds like thumping my own chest, but it isn't about me. When I was struggling last year to finish writing a book about Vietnam vets, my 12 year old daughter Melanie sat across the desk as I typed and asked, "Dad, what picture will be on the front of your book?"I had already decided and showed her the photo of Tony Armstrong, formerly of PTC, beside his Cobra helicopter in Vietnam. Melanie asked who that was and when I told her she exclaimed, "Why would you put someone else's picture on the cover of YOUR book?"

I told her, "Because it isn't about me, Melanie, it's about all of them." Them. The finest people I ever knew. That's why I keep writing about them.

Terry Garlock

Submitted by Bonkers on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 8:55am.

I knew Tony pretty well also. I don't know about his wounds, didn't ask, but he was a gentleman.

Frankly, I never knew about very much mis-treatment of the Viet-Nam dog faces. Many of the senior officers caught some deserved flack for capitulating to orders from generals who wouldn't resign when they should have.

If you can't occupy fully and destroy all enemy leaders then don't go!

Jungle, mountain and desert fighting in a civil war (of perpetuating length) (7000 years), is a bad choice of a war.

Draw a line at a good fortification and blow up all reinforcements as they approach. (Don't use agent orange).

Submitted by editmom on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 9:05pm.

How dare you presume to "forgive" Terry Garlock? He has more honor in his little finger than ... well, you know the phrase. You pronounce him guilty, call him gullible and narrow-minded and then have the audacity to call him psychopathic. I think you may need some of those mental health services yourself.

You said it yourself. People were moving on. If people move on and forget, then nothing at all was accomplished. Terry is trying to alleviate that. George Santayana said, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." In his efforts to educate those who have only heard the "peace-loving hippy" version of the Vietnam-era events, he has performed yet another service to this country. What have you done?

BTW, peace and love be with you? Every bit of your letter was insulting and designed to provoke an argument.

Lisa Treon
Peachtree City

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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 8:54pm.

What more could be said?
Caution - The Surgeon General has determined that constant blogging is an addiction that can cause a sedentary life style.

Submitted by Insayn on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 8:47pm.

Mr. Markham,

You, sir, are a Moron. Go live in North Korea. You wont be missed.

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Submitted by Buck on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 10:58pm.

I just heard their military was looking for a few good idiots. Meet with Kim Jong personally for us and tell him we forgive him for the little bombs he is naively building (and his hairdo as well.) Tell him we won't dare attack him because we learned our lesson in Nam. Scout out a spot for Woodstock II while you're there. I wouldn't spread my blanket near Jong though. I have a feeling there's a fine Navy man sitting somewhere with his finger on the button waiting to send the best fireworks show Kimmies ever seen.

supid is is supid dos

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Submitted by hutch866 on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 8:17pm.

Well, here is someone who really appears to have a problem with the military. Ask forgiveness for answering your country's call? You don't blame the politicians, you blame the soldiers, I can well see you spitting at returning service men, your phrase "gullible, narrow-minded military personnel" says it all. The only reason you get to spew your hatred is the fact that people like Terry have fought and died to give you the right. it sounds like you are the one harboring guilt, feeling a little cowardly are we? Getting forgiveness from someone like you would mean less then the residue you find on your shoe after a misstep in a field of male cattle. To ask for honor from someone like you, who doesn't know the meaning of the word, is a waste of time.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 8:20pm.

Preach on brother!

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Submitted by hutch866 on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 8:23pm.

Now it's Dawn's turn, this will for sure light her fuse.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

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Submitted by dawn69 on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 11:55pm.

Well, Mr. David Markham, you didn't by any chance get your education from Kent State did you? Say around 1970? You know, when Governor Rhodes of Ohio had to send in the National Guard because some "peace loving" students were attempting to set fire to the ROTC building. You know, that "peaceful" riot in which one of the four dead students was an innocent ROTC cadet.

While those "naive" students were demonstrating their right to assembly, their right to speak out against their government...good men like Terry, my dad, and countless others were sacrificing life and limb to fight communism. You know, that social ideology that does not allow for a citizen's right to "peaceful assembly".

I have an article that my mother cut out of the AJC back when my dad was in Vietnam. The article stays in a little box I have with his dog tags, a ration card from WWII, censored correspondence from my grandmother during WWII, and few other sentimental items. The article reads: Bombing of mess hall.... the first 13 soldiers in line at the mess hall were killed when the stack of trays that had been wired by the VC (that's Viet Cong for those who never met one) blew up. Thankfully for my mother and myself, dad was at the back of the line. When I found that article as a teenage girl (who liked to snoop) I asked him about the incident. He replied: "Yeah, I was lucky....lucky enough to be assigned clean up duty." Do you know what that is Mr. David Markham?

"....although it may take a while for the nightmares to settle down." What would you know about nightmares? Flash backs, maybe...but nightmares - I don't think so. But I'll make sure to tell my dad when I see him this weekend that YOU FORGIVE HIM. I'll make sure to tell him that people like you who hid behind "peace" to cover up their yellow bellies forgives him!

Here's another song from that era: Peace Train by Cat Stevens - Wait a minute, he's a terrorist now isn't he?

Shannon Dawn Duzan

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Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 10:12am.

Thank you Mr. Garlock for your sacrifice and service! Smiling

Mr. Markman I can think of a few "nice" words for you but can't post them here.


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Submitted by dawn69 on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 12:32am.

Furthermore, Mr. Markham, in case you did not have a chance to read the blogs regarding Terry Garlock's article, I'll leave you with this:

"Furthermore, governments, political parties, or groups which seek to perpetuate human misery in order to profit therefrom politically or otherwise will encounter the opposition of the United States." Harry Truman - 1947 - The Marshall Plan


Our government knew, after having fought the Germans and their kind TWICE, what communism and tyrannical dictators could do to human kind. This would set the stage for our involvement in Korea and Vietnam. Were we "immoral" to have fought the Germans and Italians during WWII? After all, it wasn't "our fight" was it? We were attacked by the Japanese, not the Germans. What did we care if innocent people all over Europe were being tortured and murdered? We should have just minded our own business, right?


Submitted by Bonkers on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 6:21am.

It is not necessary to protect those responsible for wars in order to honor those who had to fight it.
Everyone knows, most anyway, that young (18-19) year old soldiers and sailors aren't responsible for carnage being ordered!

Most Nazis said they were following orders but we went down the line as far as we could with trials, but never into youth participants.

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Submitted by dawn69 on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 9:48am.

Maybe I am a little naive and ideological myself. Most of you gentlemen that are blogging on this thread are at least 15-40 years older than myself - maybe I have much to learn yet about life. But I can't help but feel that even when government does the right thing for the wrong reason - it's still the right thing. Right?

In the 80's, I befriended a young Cambodian refugee named Run. She and I were both 13 years old. While I had been fretting over saving enough allowance to buy a pair of designer jeans or solving my rubiks cube - she had seen her whole family murdered under the direction of Pol Pots. I think that was the first time that I became aware of a world beyond myself and that that world is sometimes vicious.

So, I still don't see the immorality of lending aid to those suffering under the macabre workings of their government. Even if our government has a hidden agenda, we were nevertheless there for an honorable purpose.

Submitted by Bonkers on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 11:53am.

Well, one must consider the opposite in such cases as you describe about interfering in other sovereign countries.

If suddenly, the USA had a hidden uprising of terrorists in our country who were here to "free" the minorities and downtrodden that we have and in so doing were killing off many of us who were not minorities and downtrodden, what would you do?

It would be their definition of who was a minority and downtrodden, not ours.

Of course they would be talking about the uninsured citizens, the welfare citizens, the wounded veterans (40,000 from current war alone), the jobless, the unjailed wall st greet crooks, the crooked bankers, the 60,000 drunken auto deaths every year, the 50,000 who die from flu, our crowded emergency rooms, our millions of home foreclosures, and on and on.......
Do you understand how such stuff can be misinterpreted?

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Submitted by dawn69 on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 1:11pm.

I get your drift.

I suppose it comes down to inalienable rights, wanting to liberate others so that they may enjoy the fruits of LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.

However, I do understand that these rights are unique to American philosophy and are not the basic premise of many sovereign nations in this world. But, these nations have a population that is largely illiterate, unarmed, and hungry. In many cases, a revolt against tyranny is futile.

Wanting to save a girl that faces clitoral mutilation, starvation, acid baths, or a myriad of other atrocities is not the same as wanting that girls parents to be able to afford an IPod AND healthcare.

What you're saying is that it is a matter of perception. Ones own perception of right vs. wrong. I just happen to think that my perception is right and that anyone wishing to brutalize others is wrong.

If I've never told you before, let me tell you now...sometimes (only sometimes) I enjoy our banter.

Submitted by tgarlock on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 10:04am.

Assuming this does not break protocol, there are 2 chapters from the book I finished months ago about Vietnam vets that I'd like to share with you for yourself and your Dad. If you contact me at I'll email to you.

Terry Garlock

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Submitted by mudcat on Wed, 09/02/2009 - 6:16am.

Calling Markham an idiot was my original plan, but you did it it with so much class, I will simply not respond to him. People like him are always part of the problem - never part of the solution.

And thank you Terry Garlock both for your service to our country and the informative and moving articles and letters you contribute. You sir are a class act.

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