ICE not divulging reason for dangerous chase Sat. thru PTC, Fayette county

Mon, 08/31/2009 - 7:25pm
By: John Munford

Gun drawn, deputy nearly run over during chase through PTC, Fayette

One car run off road, another struck during pursuit

Citing "an ongoing criminal investigation," a spokesperson for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has declined to provide details of a police chase that happened more than two days ago through Peachtree City and unincorporated Fayette County.

The spokesperson said ICE anticipates releasing details later this week but did confirm the pursuit was part of an ICE investigation.

According to an eyewitness, the driver of a Ford Expedition was chased by marked and unmarked police vehicles going south on Peachtree Parkway near Lake Kedron. The SUV driver tried to run over a sheriff’s deputy who was standing in Peachtree Parkway with his gun drawn, the eyewitness said.

The deputy had to dive out of the way to avoid being struck, the eyewitness said.

Law enforcement apparently apprehended the driver on Ga. Highway 54 west of Piedmont Fayette Hospital.

The assailant, who was driving a Ford Expedition, also ran at least one vehicle off the road, the eyewitness said.

Local law enforcement officials are mum about the chase. All comment on the incident is being deferred to the federal Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agency.

Peachtree City police did confirm that a minor motor vehicle crash was caused during the pursuit but that crash did not involve any law enforcement vehicles. That crash occurred at the intersection of Peachtree Parkway and Hwy. 54.

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Gene61's picture
Submitted by Gene61 on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 10:08pm.

They have a wide range mission....

http://www.ice.gov/investigations/

http://www.ice.gov/about/index.htm

Gangs : http://www.ice.gov/pi/investigations/comshield/


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Submitted by Gene61 on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 9:57pm.

If ICE was along with local enforcement, this wasn't an minor incident as they would have you believe... They will not comment on the investigation until they have finished it and we'll never know some details. I suspect drugs and maybe this cold have been soneone who was operating as a "Coyote"or some weight of drugs were involved.. . Most likely in the pounds range..

As for the person who questioned whay the gun was drawn by the offeice, the vehicle was and is considered a lethal weapon, thus its SOP for an officer to have his weapon drawn given where he was posotioned to stop help create an enviroment for a felony stop...The suspect was at the point of the chase considered armed and dangerous.

And as someone posted, no they don't have account for why they have any weapon drawn. As a former law enforcement officer, no way would I feel the need to expain my actions and policy concerning SOP for these type situations, and events unless asked to do by a CO or higher. If you're interested in further details, wait and go get a copy of the incident, which is a matter of public record.


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Submitted by Buck on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 10:11pm.

and we didn't need to know. What is this constant need to know what's up with the blue lights. I understand if its current and in your neighborhood, then maybe there's a need to know. If it happened two days ago and no press release has been made then we must not need to know. Probably using the guy they popped as an informant. The new Sheriff seems to play his cards close to the vest.


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Submitted by Buck on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 10:19pm.

It's only gonna say "See Supplemental" and the Sup is not public record. Gene, spell check or change your mon, mon.


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Submitted by Gene61 on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 10:27pm.

Wow the spell check police...lmao....

I'd tell you to go play and screw yourself, but thats not my style. lmao...

Have a GREAT day!


Submitted by Dondol on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 8:29pm.

What about the chase on Robinson Rd in PTC Saturday about 6:25. I was run off of the road by a dark colored midsize car heading south with 3 patrol cars in Hot pursuit. I was approaching the Methodist church and if their driveway had not been there I would have been in the ditch. Is this part of the same?

Obama's weapon of Choice!

Submitted by Dondol on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 8:28pm.

What about the chase on Robinson Rd in PTC Saturday about 6:25. I was run off of the road by a dark colored midsize car heading south with 3 patrol cars in Hot pursuit. I was approaching the Methodist church and if their driveway had not been there I would have been in the ditch. Is this part of the same?

Obama's weapon of Choice!

Submitted by Bonkers on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 3:45am.

Oh no, it was reported that the chase ended at Fayette Hospital. or near there.
What you probably saw was a Mexican roofer being chased by the FBI.

He hadn't called the code office to get his re-roofing checked out twice by the code people--who don't do it anyway--just want to be notified, and they called in the dicks!

I think there were 4-5 "handymen" also, in the car with the Mexican, who were unlicensed in PTC!
The FBI happened to be in town checking on some of the 400 Georgia banks who still will probably fail soon. They don't want the owners to skip town with what cash there is.

A cartel of builders and developers has formed to try and simply go and rob the 400 banks of the cash before it is sent to the Islands, and then finish building their started homes on their financed lots and sell them to the bail-out people.
So a couple of them were helping run down the roofer!

Real facts in tomorrow's paper!

Submitted by Dondol on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 7:58am.

I needed a good laugh this morning, that was great!

Obama's weapon of Choice!

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Submitted by abeautifulday4us on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 5:13pm.

High speed pursuit; deputy on side of road-- why does he have his gun drawn? If he wasn't going to shoot at the motorist (to which I would not object) why is the gun out of the holster?

Someone in law enforcement explain that to me.


Submitted by Elizabeth68 on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 7:42pm.

Excuse me, abeautifulday4us, just you do you think you are? Why should law enforcement have to answer anything to you? What arrogance! When you are willing to step in front of a moving vehicle, then you can questions them.

Submitted by Bonkers on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 3:26am.

"just YOU DO you think you are?"

I DO think I are asking questions!

Personally, I think it was a rather stupid thing to do to stand in or near the road with a pistol drawn trying to stop a speeding auto with a probable felon inside! I might shoot a tire from behind a tree!!

A road block with several cars might have made some sense if several were available---if not, let him zip on and follow.

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Submitted by Buck on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 7:06am.

was a stupid idea. It was a nieve move of intimidation. Probably saw it in a movie and thought it looked like a good idea at the time.
But think it through; if he aims the car at you, a speeding bullet is not going to stop a 55mph two ton piece of steel.

supid is is supid dos


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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 9:38am.

This officer is standing in the road with this oncoming 'piece of human debris' bearing down on him in his speeding vehicle which, at that moment, was being used as a weapon; and this officer didn't utilize his training and put a few well placed rounds through the drivers side winshield????? WTF folks???? Are we not training our officers better than that????

Obama.... The Bernie Madoff Of Washington


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Submitted by SLUF on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 9:20am.

I guess you meant Naive...just busting your chops because of you busting Gene's. Nobody is perfect

quit whining


Submitted by Insayn on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 9:08am.

Or this didn't happen as the news has reported.

Submitted by panther1962 on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 5:40pm.

From a friend who lives next door to a unidentified Coweta County cop .... 41 lbs of coke flown into Falcon Field in a 10 seater Cessna with no pax buts lots of bags.....let the chase begin!!!

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Submitted by Cyclist on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 8:05pm.

why is ICE involved?

This is sure going to be a good story when it's released. We'll have to put our best "man" on it.

Bonker$, get going and find out what the heck happened!! The suspense is killing us. Smiling
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Submitted by Bonkers on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 3:34am.

Well, Hawk 1 was overhead with stinger missiles and should have fired and blown-up the speeding dope car, but didn't for some reason!
I think that cop with the drawn one-shot pistol (Barney) was in the line of fire.

So, it is Hawk 1, 0, felon, 1!

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Submitted by The 5-0 on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 5:34pm.

There is no law and no S.O.P. (standard operating procedure) that tells an officer when he can and can't un-holster his weapon. I wasn't there during the chase, so I can't say what the specific Deputy was thinking.

Personally, I would have done the same thing. If someone is driving a vehicle towards me, they are using that vehicle as a deadly weapon and I have full right to end the threat.

Maybe the vehicle was moving too fast for the Deputy to make a shot, maybe there was a passenger in the vehicle, maybe there were fellow officers or civilians standing behind the vehicle who could accidentally get shot... There are too many variables to take into account.


Submitted by Insayn on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 5:31pm.

The news is not always accurate.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 4:22pm.

I'm curious about the ICE angle. Since state laws were broken I would think the perpetrator would have to stand charge for that before he was turned over to Feds. This story will be interesting.

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Submitted by The 5-0 on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 4:36pm.

You would think that, but nope.

Fayette County and ICE work VERY well together.
If Immigration hears that we have illegals in our jail, they are deported and flown out of the country.

Of course, they'll hold off deporting them if the charge is serious.


Submitted by Bonkers on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 5:15pm.

"Fayette County and ICE work VERY well together."

Could you provide some numbers for just how many illegals Fayette County has jailed and then ICE deported?

I don't know what you mean by "work very well" but deporting is the only thing that helps!

It has been my understanding for years that Fayette County does NOT pick up illegals and jail them they say due to ICE not wanting them!

They certainly don't hunt for them.

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Submitted by The 5-0 on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 5:25pm.

I dunno how many have been removed from the jail. The last time I asked a jailer, ICE or their liaison with the Sheriff's Office comes by once every couple of weeks to pick up our illegals.

Let me get this clear from the start- there are no law enforcement agencies in this county that are specifically going after illegal aliens. The ones that ICE picks up are generally (in my personal experience) illegals who we've arrested for driving without a license.


Submitted by Bonkers on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 6:12pm.

How do the cops determine at a car stop whether someone is illegal or not?
If I were stopped and asked to prove I am legal.. all I got is license and insurance card!! They would have the same or even if they didn't they wouldn't necessarily be illegal. You really can't tell illegals any more by "looking."

I don't yet understand this "work very well together!"

By now I think we all know that every cop of every ilk within a hundred miles work very well together! We are told every day. I suppose they do like each other but that is not results, is it?

Deportation is!

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Submitted by The 5-0 on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 6:34pm.

How do we know? We ask to see a driver's license and they give us a Mexican ID. Then we ask if they have some sort of U.S. driver's license. If they don't have one we ask how long they've been in the U.S. (after a set period of time, people from other countries are not allowed to continue to drive on their home nation's driver license and must get a U.S. driver's license in order to drive).

To state what I said before, we aren't arresting them because they are just illegal aliens.


Submitted by Bonkers on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 3:13am.

How do we know?

"See a driver's license" Oh, yeah, here is one I bought in Gwinnett County, OK?

"How long have you been in the US?" Oh yeah, my back is still wet, man! Not long.

They show a Mexican driver's license???

I still don't think the cooperation with ICE is "very good"---no significant amount are being deported---jusr wasting time.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 4:39pm.

But this one was far from being in jail.
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Submitted by atlantapeach on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 2:32pm.

We were in the middle of it while driving to dinner Saturday night, and kudos to the police as they were able to drive swiftly yet safely to apprehend the perpetrator.

Submitted by Spyglass on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 11:58am.

Just saying

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