It's no secret that I am a moderate Democrate - however I believe in the value of a strong two or more party system in a democracy. I'd love to get your opinion on the article below from the Christian Science Monitor.

A Republican Comeback?

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Submitted by Silence Dogood on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 10:30am.

Ms Mom,

I've read nearly all you postings over the past couple of years. Respectully differing; you are not a moderate at all. It is amazing as to how the Democrats are starting distance themselves from the very policies and leaders they rabidly fought for.

Republicans? Two Party System?

You mean the choice between Socialism and Socialism Lite?

I have to agree with Mr. Cogo. We gain nothing by empowering the current rank and file Republicans that are 'on staff now'. Their leadership is void and their failed committments for fiscal restraint have proven their unworthiness. Where do we go from here?

Submitted by Davids mom on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 4:04pm.

Continue to monitor our 'leaders' - and continue to voice our concerns without the myths and the fear mongering. . . and look for new leadership among the young who have also had enough of this 'partisan' stuff - and are searching for the reality about what is good for the American people. History shows us that many of our greatest and most productive leaders who introduced meaningful change to this country were called 'socialists'. Labels are meaningless. It's the deeds that are important. For my family - the REAL party of Lincoln was revered - and they were Republicans for generations. Then came FDR - and his wife Eleanor - who were loved by many. (Some also labeled him ‘socialist’.) . . and many in the family became Democrats. Truman, and the integration of the military; cemented many in my family to the Democratic Party. Please don't assume that this 70 year old is moving away from the Democrats at this time. No way! The reason for identifying myself as 'moderate' is because I am a fiscal conservative - and had great difficulty understanding the Republican mantra of spend, spend, spend during a war time economy. I am a liberal on almost all social issues. I don't feel that caring for the welfare of American citizens is 'welfare' or 'socialism'. It is what the federal government is supposed to do if the citizens (states) cannot do it for themselves. Don't be fooled by honest debate among Democrats - we're not followers. My understanding is that most of the amendments to that horrific piece of legislation that came out the House were from Republicans. BUT THEY VOTED AGAINST IT. The attempt at bi-partisanship has been seen. Many are going to these Town Hall meetings and getting the myths and misinformation corrected. Hopefully our 'leaders' are listening to honest concerns - and we will be able to move on healthcare reform by the end of the year. We are nowhere near socialism as seen in other countries. And as more people get away from TV - and go to the Town Hall meetings, the scare-tactics being used by some will turn on those who use such terms as Nazi to describe our president. The truth will win – and that’s what the American people are looking for – TRUTH – from both sides of the aisle.

Submitted by MacTheKnife on Wed, 08/19/2009 - 9:22am.

Not in your wildest fantasies are you moderate David's mom.

Nice try but if you truly believe that you are a 'moderate' you really need to listen more and talk less. You are closed minded, racially divisive and a liberal in the far left category. But what do I know, I am a conservative.

((In fact EVERY state in the United States has a majority that is conservative. That doesn't bode well for all you liberals in 2010. Obama has taken a golden opportunity to show a black man can lead all and run it it the ditch.))

Sorry, but Pelosi-Reed-Frank-Obama-David's mom - are all completely out of touch.

LOL You actually read the "Christian Science Monitor"? LOL

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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Wed, 08/19/2009 - 6:47am.

Not only is it possible, it has suddenly become easier. The exposing of the socialist in chief as an empty suit way worse than anyone thought during the election has left the Dems in disarray and more importantly a huge chunk of moderates in both parties undecided and most importantly - paying attention to what is going on in the national debate over "health care"

In that enviornment the Republican Party has a clear path to take to a majority in the House next fall and an almost certain return to the White House 2 years later. It is also obvious (to me) that they will screw up this opportunity - just like so many others because they are addicted to power and large numbers of supporters (meaning groups, not individuals) - aka pandering to everyone. They are every bit as bad as the dems, plus they have weak leadership.

But let's assume they fix all that in a few months. All they have to do is 3 simple things and they are back in charge:
1. Move away from the lunatics on the far right who want to control your life through religion (and your body as well if you are a woman). People in the center who are not rabid about anything think the whackos on the right are as bad as the Dems on the left who want to control you with excessive government and taxes.
2. Recognize that no one actually cares about the Republican Party itself, but many - the majority of the country in fact are conservative in nature, and would vote that way if they saw some conservative leadership in the Republicans or even a third party. So to attract from the middle of the spectrum - get a decent conservative message. Something like the Contract with America from 1994, but stronger and dedicated to common sense opposition to the nutty ideas the Dems will still be pursuing about health care.
3. Get a sexy cornerstone issue and get united behind it. Fair Tax could work. Expanding Medicare for those without insurance (surely a smaller number than Obama has been spouting and certainly cheaper). And of course tax cuts to stimulate the economy - oh yea, and a pledge to not spend all the stimulus money that is scheduled to be spent in the year of Obama's re-election bid. I always thought that was pretty transparent and was surprised no news organization reported on it.

And of course there is another thing, probably the hardest of all - the Republicans need a strong candidate for President and it is not Sarah Palin. She's fine as VP - after all Joe Biden has set the bar so low, but the Presidential candidate needs to be as good a candidate as Obama was - albeit with a message more specific than "Hope and Change"

Nice if it could happen, but it won't.
That's my fantasy and I'm sticking to it.

Submitted by Bonkers on Wed, 08/19/2009 - 7:20am.

Might I suggest what the Republicans do to win an election:

1. Pick Sarah Palin as Vice-Presidential candidate.
2. Platform to include: Once pregnant, always pregnant.
30% sales tax at once, immediately.
No corporate taxes of any kind.
No health plan for nobody.
No federal or statereglations
No small business govt work rules
No Air Quality dudes
Let Rush announce rest on radio.

What with the no limit donations to candidates by corporations, it would be a shuein!
It doesn't matter who you pick for President. Huckelberry will do.

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Submitted by Mike King on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 3:02pm.

Until the two parties figure out that they simply cannot serve the best interests of the nation while they place personal interests ahead of all else, I welcome none of them back. Neither party has graced itself with anything worthy of much more than public ridicule for quite some time now.

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Submitted by S. Lindsey on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 3:08pm.

3rd party viable now?

"Any People who expect to be both IGNORANT and FREE, in a state of CIVILIZATION, expects what NEVER was and NEVER will be."

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Submitted by cogitoergofay on Wed, 08/19/2009 - 8:13am.

GOP Comeback a Fantasy ??? I agree. In fact I agree with all four of the posters above (which right now are Morgan, Mike King, Bonkers and Lindsey). Many middleaged white guys like me are not interested anymore. And, after only 8 short months I will still give President Obama a chance. I am not hoping he fails. If he fails, America fails. I did not vote for him but he is my President. And the GOP has made me very skeptical and doubtful.

Does anyone recall Newt's "Contract with America" ??? What a huge bust that was. Very few members of the House and Senate had the courage to try and uphold "The Contract". One was Oklahoma Senator Tom Coburn. He was bullied in private caucus that "we need to go slow", which translated into "special interests will dictate the actual deal".

I refuse to call myself a Republican anymore. There are phonies at every level. Our Congressmen, rather than laying down in the tracks kicking and screaming, are doing nothing other than feed at the trough. And locally, every politician is doing everything they can to tax and spend-- more new taxes and more new projects. When I see the bumper stickers for "2010- The Second Revolution" all I can think of is that it is yet another onslaught of special interest and dullard Congressmen feeding at the trough of self indulgence. No thank you--- I'll pass this time.

Finally, the Bush II Presidency was ultimately so devoid of values and credibility that it will rightfully earn a spot in the bottom 5 worst Presidencies of all time.

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Submitted by Mike King on Wed, 08/19/2009 - 8:48am.

Could it be that our elected officials could actually be held accountable when espousing policy over principle? A few decades ago a little event called "tar and feathers" with a subsequent ride on a rail might have been in the offing for such elitism.

Could it be that we may be headed toward a government that is filled with those who truly understand the concept of service? Even those dastardly tea party types carry signs promoting term limits that we impose upon state and local officials, so why not members of congress.
Surely an infusion of new blood couldn't be any worse.

Alas, but I dream of better days. He is my President, and I do support him because should he fail, America fails.

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