Beware of false info in healthcare debate

Tue, 08/04/2009 - 4:38pm
By: Letters to the ...

There has been a lot of false information circulating about the America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, and the media has not done a great job with sorting truth from fiction. The letter in The Citizen from Laura Lunsford last week was a good example. Ms. Lunsford’s letter is full of incorrect statements, most of which are designed to scare people away from the plan.

For example, she writes that the plan will “cut cost to Medicare by denying care to the elderly, require them to attend ‘counseling sessions’ every five years regarding ‘alternatives for end-of-life care,’ and perhaps pressure them to end their lives earlier than God intended.”

This is simply false. There is no requirement that anyone attend any counseling sessions. According to an AARP press release, “What the bill does is let physicians get paid by Medicare for counseling people about things like advance directives, living wills, durable powers of attorney, hospice care and other steps people can take to make sure their wishes are known and followed. It’s entirely up to the doctor and patient whether this counseling takes place, and completely up to the patients whether they take steps based on the counseling to put their end-of-life wishes into legal documents.”

Ms. Lunsford also states that “I can’t emphasize this enough: the government will decide what treatments our parents, grandparents, and anyone else who becomes ill will receive.”

First of all, as with the current system, you will be able to receive whatever treatment you want, if you are willing to pay out of pocket for it. The issue here is what will be paid for by your healthcare coverage.

These decisions are currently made by insurance companies, and experience has shown that they do not always represent the patients’ best interests.

Basic healthcare should be available to all Americans. This does not mean that the all Americans are entitled to have any healthcare service they want without paying for it.

She also states that we should address the fraud, waste and abuse that exists today in our healthcare system. Given that this is the primary focus of the legislation, you would think she would be more supportive of the plan.

Ironically, as Ms. Lunsford rails against any form of government involvement in healthcare she states, “Medicare has allowed people to live to a ripe old age, and to have spirit to boot. If President Obama has his way this will all be undone.”

Does she realize that Medicare is a government run healthcare program?

And yes, Medicare has allowed people in the United States to live to a ripe old age. However, we do not live, on average, to be as old as those in Canada. Life expectancy in Canada is 80, compared to 78 in the U.S. And, they spend far less per capita on health care then we do.

Ms. Lunsford paints a dismal picture of the Canadian healthcare system that I have heard before. Of course, it is not from Canadians that I have heard this dismal picture painted – most Canadians I have asked seem to be happy with their healthcare.

Ed Outlaw

Peachtree City, Ga.

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Submitted by PTC Observer on Tue, 08/04/2009 - 8:46pm.

There is no debate; the government can't even control its own house, why in the world would we want it controlling ours? They need to keep their stinking hands off my body! Has everyone forgotten the concept of personal responsibly?

Submitted by CuriousBob on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 7:36pm.

Who is it that really is behind the opposition to the health care plan?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl91YF1d3Kg

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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 8:10pm.

they spin this since it could be re-spun very easily to make the them look very bad. Remember Napolitano and her apology concerning veterans with terrorists tendencies. (eyes rolling)
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Submitted by S. Lindsey on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 10:39pm.

I guess we just can't handle anything anymore.. We need those beloved Politicians who are oh so more intellegent then we are to make the hard decisions for us...
I mean I am wetting my panties worrying so much on just how I am going to make it without Pelosi telling what is good for me..
Maybe I should give her a call.. ask her what kind of car I should drive.. Oh wait.. she already told me...
Oh where would I be without the Government to help me out??

"Any People who expect to be both IGNORANT and FREE, in a state of CIVILIZATION, expects what NEVER was and NEVER will be."
THOMAS JEFFERSON


Submitted by Bonkers on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 6:11am.

Change those panties---there are many more wettings to come!

Pelosi is a brilliant multi-millionaire!

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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 9:29am.

"Pelosi is a brilliant multi-millionaire!"

Spoken like a true progressive sycophant, or in your case maybe psycophant. Pelosi and brilliant can never be in the same sentence without the word "NOT" being present. This is the rube who said "every month without the economic recovery package 500 million Americans lose their jobs". Hard to do with the US population barely topping 300 million. And, wouldn't we all be out of a job then in that first month? Idiot.

Also, anybody with a brain knows her husband made the family money, not her. She has been in politics since college. Not that she didn't probably pull in some nice kick-backs along the way. Investments and real estate are his forte. Botox injections and stupid comments are hers.


Submitted by Bonkers on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 10:23am.

You are incorrect about the Pelosi wealth.

Nearly everything they own is jointly owned---made since they married.

Her Father was Mayor of Baltimore and he weren't broke!

She is well educated (by Catholics) and could not run the House if she was stupid as you say.

I don't particularly like her, but what has that got to do with anything?

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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 11:02am.

"You are incorrect about the Pelosi wealth."

Actually, I'm not. She came from family money. Her husband made the overwhelming bulk of their current wealth with his investments. The point was her and her "brilliance" never made them multi-millionaires. Care to share with us how her "brilliance" made them money?

"Nearly everything they own is jointly owned---made since they married."

No kidding? Is that how it works? Again, the point is who made their millions. It wasn't her and her "brilliance".

"Her Father was Mayor of Baltimore and he weren't broke!"

So what? Again, she came from money.

"She is well educated (by Catholics) and could not run the House if she was stupid as you say."

By Catholics? To quote you, "what has that got to do with anything"? She is the one who says these dumb-ass things, not me. Are you saying it wasn't her saying them? Maybe an alien imposter? Maybe that same imposter was fumbling around looking for papers in the press conference about the CIA briefings, mumbling to herself, blaming staff members, and lying her ass off? That's how liars act when caught. She's not a very "brilliant" liar either.

"I don't particularly like her, but what has that got to do with anything?"

Nothing, coming from someone who claims she is "brilliant".


Submitted by Bonkers on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 1:10pm.

She came from money and yet didn't contribute?

Actually mean, some people work together to run their families!Some don't even discuss investments with their spouse until it is done------her husband does.

Again, I doubt if you or I could possibly run the House of Representatives and attend scores of questioning sessions. Her mistakes would be few to ours!

That doesn't mean you can't hate democrats! Just say that and leave out the people.

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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 10:54pm.

"She came from money and yet didn't contribute?"

Good grief. What part of this statement did you not comprehend? "Her husband made the overwhelming bulk of their current wealth with his investments." Did I say she didn't contribute anything? Overwhelming bulk does not equal the total. Where in the hell did you teach anyway?

"Again, I doubt if you or I could possibly run the House of Representatives and attend scores of questioning sessions. Her mistakes would be few to ours!"

That may be, but we're not talking about you and me. I was talking about her. She is a US Representative. She is Speaker of the House, next in the line of succession after "The Plagiarizer". The responsibility is hers to speak clearly, recite accurate facts and figures, and correct mistakes. You guys made a favorite pasttime out of chronicling every single time Bush made a mistake speaking. Deal with it.

"That doesn't mean you can't hate democrats! Just say that and leave out the people."

As usual, you are incorrect. I don't hate all democrats. I don't agree with their policies and beliefs. But, hatred is reserved for a special few crooks and liars. That wench is as dirty as they come. Kennedy, Kerry, Reid and Pelosi set the bar really high as dirtbags. I guess you figured out I'm not planning to "leave out the people", huh?


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