PTC police report suspicious duo at Kedron tunnels

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 9:59am
By: John Munford

Residents asked to report suspicious cart path activity to 770-461-4357

Peachtree City police are asking residents in Kedron Village to be on the lookout for suspicious persons on the cart paths who have been “approaching golf carts and blocking the tunnels.”

The incidents have been reported over the past several days in tunnels located at Georgian Park, Kedron Village and Ardenlee Parkway, police said.

Rumors around town have circulated claiming that a teenager was assaulted on the path system in a similar situation, but no such incidents have been reported to the police department, officials said.

The subjects, described as two black males, are estimated to be in their late teens although age estimations have varied, police said. One of the subjects has dreadlocks, police added.

Police encourage residents to report any suspicious behavior on the cart path system and to particularly:
• Note the suspects race;
• Note the suspects approximate age, sex, height;
• Note the suspects clothing description; and
• Try to observe any distinguishing characteristics such as tattoos or scars.

Suspicious person reports should be called in to 770-461-4357, which is the Fayette County Communications Center. The suspects should not be approached, police said.

Police also are reminding citizens to be aware of their surroundings on the cart path system, particularly your location and the people around you.

Parents are also urged to talk to their children regarding personal safety and reporting suspicious incidents.

if anyone has information that would assist the Police Department in these or other incidents, please contact the Peachtree City Criminal Investigations Division at 770-631-2510 or the Crime and Narcotics Information Hotline, (770) 487-6010. Callers may remain anonymous.

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 10:11pm.

Your half (re-calibrated) baked reporting, and the resulting passionate calls for self defense that it inspired, have made it pretty dangerous for a young black male to be seen on the cart paths. The age estimates have varied huh? No more description than black males, one with dreads? That's it? This sounds to me like some local teenagers raising hell, and making up a story to throw the blame elsewhere, one that is sure to be believed in Fayette County. The devil is in the lack of details.

It's not easy being the carbonunit


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Submitted by The Wedge on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 11:21pm.

If there are actual police reports with the suspicious persons description listed above, then it is irresponsible not to report it. We have lots of young teenagers on golfcarts on these paths. They should be told what to watch for. It is common sense. Statistics do not lie no matter how you spin it - straight from the US Government DOJ-"Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 32% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 17% of Hispanic males and 5.9% of white males"
Your desire to not list suspicious activity and name characteristics of the people is short sighted and kow tows to the PC elite.


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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Thu, 07/30/2009 - 6:17am.

Your desire to not list suspicious activity and name characteristics of the people is short sighted and kow tows to the PC elite.
Where did I say that suspicious activity should not be listed, or that defining characteristics should not be named? My point is, given the near total lack of details, the brush used to paint this is too broad and the paint is too thin to yield a usable picture. Me, "kow towing" to the PTC elite? Hardly sir. I am just looking for something in the story to give me reason to believe it. In its present form, it sounds made up.

It's not easy being the carbonunit


Submitted by jevank on Thu, 07/30/2009 - 12:57pm.

With the recent article reporting that the kids made a false report, I assume John Munford will see the error he made in bringing race into this so quicky. (Not to mention the fact that it should be a possessive "suspect's race" instead of "suspects race."

The lastest news didn't mention the race of the kids involved. I'm certain that the reason Cal will cite is the fact that they are juveniles, but I am sure that their race would not give their identities away.

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Submitted by The Wedge on Thu, 07/30/2009 - 7:18am.

I guess the question really stems upon actual police reports, which admittedly I do not know if they are filed or if the information is coming from police records. However, if the description was two white teenagers, one very tall and skinny and the other a bit dumpy and fat, then it would give nobody pause.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 8:11pm.

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Submitted by Bonkers on Thu, 07/30/2009 - 3:14am.

I did on 7/29 at 1:30!

Don't worry. The constant patrolling and Biking by the PD will get em!

By the way what did they do? CWB, maybe!

Submitted by peachgal45 on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 5:41pm.

I live right near Ardenlee and Kedron tunnels, the only way for me to get anywhere is to go through the Ardenlee tunnel leading up to Kedron elementary. They need to apprehend these two males!!! I am not allowed to go on cart paths by myself, neither do I want to with these guys un-apprehended. School is starting soon, and I would love to be able to drive my golf cart to school as I have the privilege to. I will be a junior,it's my first year of taking the golf cart to school, and I really want to drive the golf cart on my first day back at school. I hope these guys stop careening around the Kedron paths and tunnels or are reported and turned in. I will be extremely sad if these guys are not caught before school starts!! *fingers crossed*

Submitted by I_LOVE_PTC on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 2:41pm.

We cant say black? why because the NAACP will start the boo hoo all over again. well when they try to cart jack some one please tell me what to tell the police brojah.....you gotta be kidding me... this all started when they moved tech woods homes into ptc because of the olympics building projetcs. THANKS ATLANTA!

NOW i cant even let my young daughter whos an A+ student take a jog down what use to be a beautiful trouble free path without following behind with a gas opperated semi automatic high powered carbine with a 30+ round capacity. GREAT! just read my latest blog and get another idea of where our city is going we even get attacked in stores now. like i said whats next STAR SHIP ADULT STORE!! GOSH!

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 8:51pm.

There. I said it for you, I_Love_PTC.

One can name 1,000 cities and towns ruined by blacks, but you'd be constrained to name even one made better.

In other news, CNN's Soledad O'Brian is already working on BLACK IN AMERICA 3, which is sure to tell you all the ways it is YOUR fault.

Enjoy.


Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 9:15pm.

This is why Atlanta has so many "exburbs". The further some of us move to get away from the crime the harder some criminals try to follow.

Like another blogger on here said get a carry conceal permit and use it! The only good criminal is a dead one!

Special note for people who object to others defending their lives. You can only use your gun or deadly force if your life is threatened. If your life is threatened, defend it. These people don't sound like productive members of society. It's time to cut the cancer.

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 9:23pm.

Sweet, loving David's mom, whom I admire so greatly, lend unto us please your skills of racial peacemaking. Please position yourself at the Kedron tunnel and keep a sharp eye out for two black males looming about -- evidently one has dreadlocks. I am absolutely positive you can save them from the horrors of life in the Bubble. No doubt they are fine, upstanding men undeserving of our obvious racial animus. Please direct them to what you described on this forum as a city that proves blacks make things better -- The City of Atlanta.

Thank you in advance.

Love and kisses,

EE


Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 9:29pm.

I needed that laugh. It's been a long week.

Submitted by rmoc on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 9:06pm.

It is the black urban no responsibility culture. The one Bill Cosby has been silenced about. It is about the N's not the blacks.

Submitted by Bonkers on Thu, 07/30/2009 - 3:26am.

Right, our recession is about the goons, not the whites!

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 9:17pm.

She's an octoroon looking to be a mulatto.


Submitted by Bonkers on Thu, 07/30/2009 - 3:31am.

Octoroons and mulattos?
I thought she was Irish-Puerto-Rican! (one-third black, one-third Spanish, one-third white Irish.

One day we will all be a Dukes-mixture.

Submitted by juliacleath on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 2:39pm.

This is something we don't need on our cart paths! Rather than trying to note a suspicious persons age, sex, height, clothing and race... why not just take a picture with your cell phone? Seems a picture might be helpful.... that is if your phone isn't swiped from you! Cerfew is a good idea, if it comes to that, but too bad paths can't be monitored by security cameras. The paths are one of the best things about our city, but also could be a really bad thing one day if we all don't do our part in watching out for one another.

Submitted by Chez on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 11:16pm.

I normally handle this situation by tooting the horn, putting the pedal to the metal and yelling "GET THE H$LL OUT OF THE WAY FOOL". Have yet to put any scuff marks in the front end of my cart.....

Submitted by PTC Observer on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 10:52am.

Protect yourself from predators

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 8:49pm.

Let the distinguishing mark be made by whatever you shoot them with.

I myself welcome strangers. Usually with .45 ACP or .357 SIG.


Submitted by Spyglass on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 11:55am.

I've never had to even think of using it, but I will tune someone up with it if I have to.

Submitted by MYTMITE on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 4:57pm.

Are you fiddling while PTC burns??? You crack me up. I have to be careful, it must not be good for someone so old to laugh so hard. You always brighten my day.

Submitted by AtHomeGym on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 5:59pm.

Word on the street is that Spy's bow is bent and he's a plucker!

Submitted by Bonkers on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 12:31pm.

Well it won't be long now until someone gets knocked over the head and their gun stolen!

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Submitted by Liferfrom65 on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 11:51am.

I'm with ya.


Submitted by Cobra on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 3:09pm.

Hope I never have to use it on anything but a paper target.....it's nice to be prepared, though. I've been in a situation where I needed my cannon and didn't have it. I never knew how much I appreciated that cannon until then.

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Submitted by ilockemup on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 10:18am.

The Solution Starts with a Curfew....I have long said that policing the cart paths in PTC will be a nightmare. And this is long before the inevitable arrival of MARTA. A curfew would be only one of several fundamental steps that would curb cart path crime. Remember, it is too easy to pull this off and most cart riders are holding some cash, credit cards, ipods or other stuff worth a quick grab and dash in to the woods. Step Number Two would be regular road block license checks. Step Number Three would be plainclothes officers checking id's.

It won't happen though. Why not? Blacks will complain about profiling. Munford will probably get criticized for even mentioning the reported race of these assailants. The parents of rich white kids who don't make their kids get jobs will also complain will say that their babies are being hassled. Finally, the libbers will complain about freedom.

Final result--- those of us in law enforcement will be blamed for the assaults and robberies by snatch on the paths. I pity the PTC PD. Good luck.


Submitted by AtHomeGym on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 3:42pm.

a good idea. I'm sure there are some reported times that this supposed "blocking" has happened. I would hope there is a plan to put a Golf Cart mounted plainclothes cop out there in those timeframes but not just to check id, but with the intent to apprehend and arrest.

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Submitted by G35 Dude on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 1:48pm.

You are correct. As evidenced by the Gates case. The caller is being called a racist because some people thought she identified the men that were suspected as breaking into the house as black. They were black. Even though they were not breaking into the house. But how was she to know? Seems the safe thing to do now days is to turn your head and report nothing. That is why I do have a permit.


Submitted by MYTMITE on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 5:04pm.

I don't think they should say a person has grey hair, is short or fat, ugly, has stretch marks or talks with a lisp. All would be profiling and I don't want to be stopped every time a short, fat, ugly,grey haired person with a lisp commits a crime. Let's hope they don't notice the stretch marks.

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Submitted by G35 Dude on Wed, 07/29/2009 - 6:38pm.

Hey now I see your point!!!!! *LOL*


Submitted by PTCD on Thu, 07/30/2009 - 9:48am.

Facts are Facts....The reports are not yet released to report on. Yes there where 3 boys that were jumped. 2 got caught (one with severe facial injury), one was lucky enough to escape. Some Thugs looking for easy money praying on easy, smaller and younger kids. Maybe just maybe it was the same guys that where throwing bricks at carts at the same tunnel a week before. Long story short the paper did a great job of getting information out so people are aware and look around the tunnels before they enter. As far as being black, white, yellow or purple it is not an argument of race only stating that they where black with dreadlocks in the discription.

Submitted by Bonkers on Thu, 07/30/2009 - 1:16pm.

Seems the cops are now saying that it didn't happen!
What are your "Facts?"

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