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can someone help me understand. Michael Vick flipped off fans, did drugs, ran a dog fighting ring and who knows what else; was fined, went to prison for a short visit and now will be back playing NFL again!?! What kind of message is this sending to our youth? You can do whatever you want to do, you may get your hand slapped, but you can come right back on top!!!! Whaaaaat?!

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Submitted by FayetteFlyer on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 3:36pm.

to our "young" is the same that has always been sent. Justice is for those who can afford the best representation. The only difference is now Black people have risen to an economic level where they, too can exploit the judicial system. As for Vick, he's done his time as was precribed by this fair and impartial court system. So don't worry for our children, jane. They understand life's hypocricies alot better than you give them credit for.

Submitted by MacTheKnife on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 11:42am.

Some NFL teams have linebackers that are murderers that any competent prosecutor could have proven. Several (alleged?) rapists and thugs make up a league commonly referred to as the NBA.

Rules in America just don't apply to celebrities.

Whether it's Doc Gooden, Daryl Strawberry or Steve Howe's cocaine use in baseball or the rapes and murders of NFL and NBA athletes, celebrities don't suffer the same consequences as the rest of us .... until they are no longer celebrities that is.

I'll chime in my two cents for Michael Scumbag Vick.

Vick should be chained to a tread mill with weights around his neck running WAO for six hours a day and made to take steroids until it turns him in to the same freakazoid killing machine he attempted to make out of those dogs.

Then he should be starved to lose weight down to about 60% of his natural weight and put in a cage to fight to the death with others that have committed inhumane crimes.

If he loses he should be beaten, shot or drowned. Sound like fun Mikey? That's what you did to hundreds of dogs.

Yea, I know what you are thinking and yes, humans are indeed worth more than animals. Humans actually have a choice - he made his - his dogs never had that human privilege. Besides, a human with any sense of decency doesn't prey upon helpless animals in the most cruel way possible. "As you treat the weakest among us ... yada yada yada".

Virtually ALL serial killers have animal abuse in their background. He's a pot head and a thug. Remember the two piece bottle he tried to sneak through the airport? the idiot has millions of dollars and pounds of dope in his house and he is trying to sneak a few grams past homeland security? Hello? That alone deserves a serious butt whipping.

Anyway, for him to ever be in a position to have kids look up to him and wear his jersey so they can be like him would be perverse.

I for one will boycott any team that hires him.

He needs to get a job working in a humane society non-kill animal shelter cleaning dog poop up and feeding and bathing dogs for the next twenty years - not being a glory seeking multimillionaire playing a kids game and living like a criminal. Let someone of better character have that dream job.

How's that for two cents worth?

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Submitted by G35 Dude on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 10:39am.

I really don't care if Vick ever plays in the NFL again or not. But to call what he lost just a handslap is ridiculous. His thug lifestyle cost him 100's of millions in fines, penalties, and income. He's so far in debt that he'll probably never be able to pay even what he is supposed to under his bankruptcy proceedings. Not to mention almost 2 years in jail. What penalty would be enough? The chair? Life in prison? To not be allowed to ever earn a living and pay back his debts? Should the message that we send to our kids be that you can never recover from a bad lifestyle?

Don't get me wrong. If a NFL team signs him I'll pull against that team. I'm glad he's no longer a Falcon. I'm no fan of his but if you remove emotions from the equation I think you'll see that he's paid a pretty high price for his stupidity.

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Submitted by The Wedge on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 11:13am.

Even if Michael Vick was banned forever from the NFL, he still would be able to earn a living. Pete Rose was banned for life from baseball, yet he still is able to "earn a living". The question truly is will he ever be allowed to recover to the financial level that he had already obtained. The short answer to that is no. That money is gone, although there were so many millions that magically disappeared in the four months before incarceration that we may never know how truly bankrupt and destitute Vick is.
The two years in jail did not allow him to fulfill his NFL contractual obligations, he was suspended pending finality of judicial punishment, but there really was not a suspension by the NFL- Leavenworth kept him from his chosen vocation-that and his own personal choices.
Let's keep the kids out of it. "Should the message that we send to our kids be that you can never recover from a bad lifestyle?" Michael Miliken was a Wall Street hotshot in the 80's that was convicted of insider trading and incarcerated for longer than 2 years. He is forever banned from plying his chosen trade-securities- due to his felony conviction. He now has changed his life and helps run nonprofits and charitable institutions. This to me is a better example for our kids- perservering through adversity even though your desired profession has been forbidden to you. I will not weep for either man, Miliken or Vick. Both got themselves in their chosen messes

Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 2:37pm.

"Should the message that we send to our kids be that you can never recover from a bad lifestyle?

I certainly hope not. We don't have rehabilitation in our correctional institutions - and most criminals in jail just come out 'better' criminals'. It takes persistence, integrity, and community support for one to recover from a bad lifestyle - but if Vick can show that he can do it - he will be a role model - and an inspiration to those who feel they cannot overcome a terrible life mistake.

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Submitted by The Wedge on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 3:00pm.

My point of the post was that no one is keeping Mr Vick from earning a living. He may be barred temporarily from his chosen profession, but he can still earn a living and by making better choices, can be inspirational. I feel that we should treat him no better, and no worse, than any other felon who was convicted for RICO type offenses. Another message that we should be sending our kids is that our actions have consequences, sometimes entirely outside of any perceived fairness for the crime. A prison term does not necessarily pay a "debt to society". Society sometimes decides if they are ever going to forgive that debt. I guess OJ would be a case in point for a person (before the armed robbery conviction) who was given no criminal culpability, yet society never considered that debt paid.

Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 4:02pm.

He may not have an opportunity to play football again - but he can become a contributing citizen.

Submitted by Spyglass on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 8:47am.

over what happened to him.

Submitted by AtHomeGym on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 7:28am.

Jane, you're right about it being a bad example, but I'm betting he will never "get on top"---hell, he never was to start with. Plenty of raw talent, but bad attitude and no leadership.

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