Fayette BoE finds use for empty new school

Tue, 06/30/2009 - 4:17pm
By: Ben Nelms

Built for 600, school will house programs for 40 specials needs students grades K-12

A just-built elementary school will have at least a few students this fall — about 40 children to populate the $10.65 million project.

Fayette County School System’s Mainstay special needs program currently housed at Lafayette Educational Center (LEC) and the Special Education Department at East Fayette Elementary will be relocating to the new Rivers Elementary School when the new school year starts in August.

The new school was built to hold 600 pupils.

A component of the school system’s Exceptional Children’s Services, the Mainstay program generally serves approximately 35-40 K-12 students on a temporary basis until they are ready to return to their regular school, according to Superintendent John DeCotis.

Rivers will also be the new home for the school system’s Special Education department, along with its hearing and vision-impaired teachers, assistive technology and records staff. In total, said DeCotis, the department has approximately 50 staff, including the 10 Mainstay staff. DeCotis said Special Education department staff will also help with front office duties at the new school.

DeCotis said Mainstay’s move to Rivers will provide needed space at LEC. Mainstay needed more space and a playground facility, DeCotis said, adding that the move will accommodate an increase in space for the Alternative School expansion and for additional classroom space for Gordon College and Central Michigan University.

Significant roof damage more than a year ago at LEC accounted for the move of a number of school system departmental programs to East Fayette after Inman Elementary opened its doors.

Pertaining to the future use of the soon-to-be empty old East Fayette Elementary, DeCotis said the school system had been contacted in the spring about a potential sale of the school property to a healthcare company but has not heard back from them.

DeCotis said energy conservation measures at Rivers will be in place in the areas that will not be used by Mainstay or the Special Education department.

The school board in February, amidst lengthy conversations on system-wide, multi-million dollar cost-cutting measures, decided to mothball the new $10.65 million elementary school and to explore other potential uses.

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Submitted by redrooster on Fri, 07/03/2009 - 7:47am.

Too bad any child has to go to a public school.


Submitted by Tyrone92 on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 7:45pm.

This just goes to show once again that the board could care less about what happens in Tyrone. We need a bigger voice. The kids from East Fayette deserved that new school and now we should be next in line. But, since our school is majority low income and a large population of Spanish speakers they figure that we won't make much of a fuss and just keep us overcrowded. This is ridiculous. Come on Burch parents! We need to band together and take on this issue. Our kids have had to deal with overcrowding for too long. And no, they can't move any to Tyrone because they are at capacity due to sewer issues. We need a new board who will actually listen to our problems and come up with solutions instead of opening a brand new school for 40 kids. And yes, I do agree with the post about giving the special needs kids their own space, however, unfortunately the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, although it doesn't seem so in this case.

Submitted by mamadutt on Mon, 07/06/2009 - 12:52pm.

exactly! we have got to have bigger voices! we pay same taxes as all these other people and they choice to avoid us on the north part of town! put the special needs in Burch! then move our precious children who deserve new facilities to Rivers. Same buses etc. no change in bourdaries, all teachers move etc. what do we have to do to make them listen? this is absolutely ridiculous!

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Submitted by suggarfoot on Sun, 07/05/2009 - 8:56pm.

to go...

Maybe they wanted to close Tyrone Elm, so they could open Rivers. A lot of people complained. They do not have enough kids to get federal money if they keep all the schools open...so...maybe...to open it for the 40 kids is a ruse...so you will squawk and say they should close Tyrone Elm or Birch to open Rivers.

They, the 3, are laying it out for you to do their dirty work.

The big deal is to open that school and help the developers that bought the land around it.

Why else do you think they would have done this? Use your brain and don't be their parrot...money is the name of the game...not kids..


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Submitted by suggarfoot on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 9:36pm.

As I understand it, you have to have a certain number of kids to teachers. Under that, and you don't get federal funding. That school was built on speculation that there would be more students due to the developers building on the land around it. If they take kids out of Tyrone Elm and Birch and put them in Rivers, as I understand it, there wouldn't be enough kids and they would all be under the quota to get government money in all of them! Birch is the only one crowded and that is due to the closing of another elementary school that should have been left in place.

They have made a mess, this is true. When I say that I want to make sure that everyone knows ...I do not mean Ms Key, nor Dr Todd. They have been out voted and bullied by the others. They are the only 2 with the right background for the job. It is a pity. Smith's husband owns a large plumbing company and has been, and may still be in a development, as in new homes, company. Wright works for Delta, go figure. Smola, says she is a free fund raiser. The only ones with teaching background and no ties are Key and Todd, but, they are out voted.

Tyrone Elementary has no sewer problem. That is a flag that has been raised on more than one occasion to try to get sewer run through the town so, again, developers could build more houses along there. Again a lot of that land is owned by people waiting to make some money.

People in Tyrone have been watching this for many years. A lot of us hoped with the last election that the voters would wake up! They didn't....like pigs to slaughter.

Apathy is a cash cow in Fayette county!


Submitted by mamadutt on Mon, 07/06/2009 - 1:02pm.

Burch has actually been overcrowded for a couple years now and not due to closing any schools! There have actually been school openings close by! Cleveland and Crabapple schools are not overcrowded, but due to demographics will not accept any of the overflow from Burch! There are 4 buses that go to Landmark Mobile Home park holding almost 200 children!!! This consists of primarily Hispanic and low income families that the other schools do not wish to have!! Face the facts that the board does not explain to the rest of Fayette Co. The teachers at Burch are amazing at what they have to endure with teaching a large number of non-English speaking students. We are neglected here in N. Fayette. I pay taxes like everyone else, but do not get a new school for my child. If we move our Burch staff and children to Rivers and Mainstay to Burch, maybe more people would want to move here and fill up the "empty" desks as we are told there are. Burch is way overcrowded! We would fill up the new school and possibly trailers! Please help us outnumbered parents to get board to listen to us! Our children deserve better education than this. And they say they want Fayette co. to stay the best? How can we in crowded spaces. Burch kids need nice playground and facilities also. Possibly more so then the 40 kids they plan to put in a new school!!!!

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Submitted by suggarfoot on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 9:45pm.

don't get sucked into one of those 'email trees' some have. If you want to know about Tyrone Elm 's sewer problem, or lack of problem, ask anyone on Tyrone's town council. They will tell you the truth.


Submitted by allegedteacher on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 7:16pm.

Dear Fayette County Employees, thanks to the ingenuity of your leadership, the new Rivers Edge Elementary School will be home to 40 students and 50 employees! The costs of operation will not pay themselves; watch for your health benefits to be cut,come open enrollment in January.

Submitted by 2pugs4u on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 7:51am.

While it may seem like a logical location and great use of excess space, why are Special Needs students and the Special Ed Department being relocated to the Rivers campus? Almost sounds like a separate but equal civil rights violation. Remember Brown vs Board of Education? Children with exceptional educational requirements need to be integrated into regular school environments, not isolated and segregated to a special campus. What if they moved all Spanish language students, Bible club members or other unique group out there on their own? Better amend those plans to move some regular ed students, staff and faculty out there.

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Submitted by suggarfoot on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 2:14pm.

As a person who had a special ed person in their family. I think this will be good for them. They are often shy and need a friendly environment to open up. Kids are not often friendly nor nice to them.

But, this was not what the school was intended for. What happened is they built that school because developers own the land around it. They built on pure speculation, not the best interest of present taxpayers. To be more blunt, the present taxpayers are footing the bill for new schools that the developer's clients should have to pay for when they move in. that won't be the case.

They talked about the overcrowding at Birch which was caused by the BOE. They could have waited to close the other elementary...but they didn't. They wanted to make Peoples seem as needed as possible.

Now, if they take kids out of Birch, Tyrone Elementary etc, to fill up Peoples, then they will not have enough kids in any to get federal funding. Tyrone is under comp and some of the kids could, and still can, be sent from Birch to Tyrone Elm.

It was an ugly bet with taxpayers money and kids. They lost, and now only the taxpayers and their children suffer the consequences.


Submitted by mamadutt on Mon, 07/06/2009 - 1:04pm.

Burch and Tyrone are on the north part of town and peeples in south Fayette. Where are you going with that concept?

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Submitted by suggarfoot on Mon, 07/06/2009 - 4:46pm.

my bad, I was referring to Rivers, but said Peoples.


Submitted by ohmygosh on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 6:22am.

OKay this comes to $266,000 per kid. That can fund an entire education at a private school from Kindergarten up through senior year, and still have room left sor a few semesters of college. What I would really like to see is the operating costs for this - what are the utilities alone going to cost us, as taxpayers, to educate 40 kids at a large building? Surely they aren't going to turn the power on in just ONE portion of the building. I can see the money better spent renting a storefront somewhere and converting it into a classroom or three. There are several empty ones even in the Avenues. This was a very very poor choice and a blatant misappropriation of our monies, all to say that they "have found a use for that building". Amazing. Next thing you hear will be a vote on moving the Atlanta Homeless shelter down here to join them....

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Submitted by suggarfoot on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 6:54am.

so this, and a lot more to come, is what you get. You had a chance to get rid of Smith and Smola in the last election and you didn't. People were shouting from the roof tops they were wasting our money and would waste more. But you didn't do anything about it with your vote.

Our taxes are higher, we have SPLOT,SPLATT and SPLOST and the waste goes on.


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Submitted by mapleleaf on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 3:53pm.

The discouraging thing is that these dumb voters are our neighbors, Suggarfoot. The same people that have TEA parties vote for SPLOST.


Submitted by jwoo on Thu, 07/02/2009 - 12:00pm.

Come from Canada

Submitted by pomsmom on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 6:32pm.

YOU ARE ONE OF THE DUMBEST PEOPLE I HAVE HEARD. JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE GO AT CHANGE IN A WAY THAT YOU DON'T HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH DOES NOT MAKE THEM DUMB!! WHY DON'T YOU COME TO ONE OF THE LOCAL TEA PARTIES AND SEE WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ARE THERE. OR MAYBE YOU ARE AFRAID THAT SOME ONE MIGHT TAKE YOUR PICTURE AND ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS WOULD SEE YOU. OR BETTER YET OUR WELL EDUCATED PEOPLE IN OUR HOMELAND SECURITY DEPT MIGHT GET A GLIMPSE OF YOUR FACE AND THINK THAT YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT AMERICA AND THEREFORE YOU ARE A DOMESTIC TERRORIST.

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Submitted by zoes on Thu, 07/02/2009 - 9:50am.

Please stop shouting

ZoeS

"Never love anything that can't love you back."


Submitted by pomsmom on Thu, 07/02/2009 - 11:25am.

I KNOW THAT CAPS MEANS SHOUTING WHEN YOU ARE TALKING TO TEENY BOPERS BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL ADULTS HERE. BELIEVE BE IF I WAS SHOUTING AT YOU IT WOULN'T SOUND LIKE TYPING. I GUUESS YOU WON'T BE MY BFF ANY LONGER OMG. LOL

Submitted by Spyglass on Thu, 07/02/2009 - 12:41pm.

But like the blogger below says, maybe you are something special.

Submitted by jwoo on Thu, 07/02/2009 - 11:59am.

Normally a computer has a button clearly marked CAPS. So you want the world to conform to your way of thinking rather than going along with the rest of us on this simple etiquette. YOU THINK YOU’RE SOMETHING SPECIAL?

Submitted by pomsmom on Thu, 07/02/2009 - 10:11pm.

YEAH I AM SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL

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Submitted by mapleleaf on Fri, 07/03/2009 - 7:10am.

The term "special people" is a euphemism that describes our fellow citizens with mental handicaps or deficiencies. Pomsmom is indeed very special. I am glad to see pomsmom acknowledge it. It is a point we can all agree on.


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Submitted by S. Lindsey on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 3:58pm.

Run FOREST Run...

You want to prove that point... Didn't think so..

"When the person who in possession of a government, shall say to a nation, I hold this power in 'contempt' of you, it signifies not on what authority he pretends to say it is..but an aggravation to a person in slavery"..Thomas Paine


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Submitted by suggarfoot on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 6:55am.

in Fayette county!


Submitted by mamadutt on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 5:46pm.

that is absolutely ridiculous! We are going to use a state of the art new school for 40 kids! We are at Burch and using trailers for our children. What is wrong with this picture? This is making me really second guess our board once again. My child has to endure having 200 kids too many at an old school, while 40 children will be able to roam the new school! I guess my taxes paid are not important or good enough to get a good education for my child! I am extremely upset and hope more parents will join me and protest this. Not that anything we do or say will help change our board's mind. Our teachers and children at Burch deserve this building and I cannot understand why our 600-700 children cannot attend the new school and the 40 LEC children go to Burch building. But of course that makes too much sense. I am outraged at this decision and will make my voice louder! Parents please join me!

Submitted by FayetteFlyer on Thu, 07/02/2009 - 12:28pm.

That solution just makes too much sense! That's why it'll never be considered!

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Submitted by suggarfoot on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 9:58pm.

on this one. The 3 amigos make one blooper after another, the only problem is, we pay for them. I would love to hear their reasons. It has to be a dilly. But, again, I don't find issues with the special ed kids having something, but the whole thing is never thought out.

You should have gotten them out when you had the chance. Now, everyone is still paying for their blunders. It will get nastier. I promise.


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