Supreme Court ruled in favor of the firefighters - Ricci.

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Once that process has been established and employers have made clear their selection criteria, they may not then invalidate the test results, thus upsetting an employee's legitimate expectation not be judged on the basis of race," Kennedy wrote. The court's four other conservative justices joined Justice Kennedy's opinion

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Story - Ricci v. DeStefano

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Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:44pm.

What the city did was unfair to those who passed the exam. The 'Rev.' s in the 'black' community need to spend more time making sure candidates are prepared for the tests than threatening the city fathers. Kudos to the 'white' firefighters who used what blacks and whites marched for- the color blindness of the law. If you noticed the TV announcement - there were firefighters of 'color' who supported the New Haven firefighters. There are 'blacks' that have passed firefighter tests in the past - and will be in the future. If anyone who is not a minority feels they are the victim of 'reverse discrimination' they have the law on their side - and need to stop claiming they were passed over because they are white/male/ whatever. The days of male/white dominance or the GOB's club are over. If a minority or a woman gets a job/passes a test - it is because they are BETTER - and deserve the recognition of their accomplishment. I agree, the days of reverse discrimination are over. If anyone feels they have been discriminated against – don’t complain – go to court!!

Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 7:01pm.

for your comments. I hope the healing can begin. Is the question of ones race relevant on any application form? Let's hope that question is dropped from all applications so that we can heal as a nation.

Submitted by AtHomeGym on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 3:39pm.

DM, that's a pretty sensible post. What a shame the court system has to be used to solve what local leadership should take care of. The citizens who elected them are being cheated.

Submitted by AtHomeGym on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 3:46pm.

POTUS has called for the re-seating of the former President of Honduras. This was NOT a military coupt; it was the military carrying out an order of the Honduran Supreme Court. The former president tried to circumvent their constitution by calling for a General Referendum to move towared a "Constitutional Convention" with the purpose of changing the Constitution so he could become "President For Life." He was called on it by their Attorney General and the Supreme Court. The military simnply did their duty by removing him from the country. The Congress dutifully selected a successor and declared that elections would go on as scheduled in November for a newly elected President. POTUS joined Castro and other leftists in supporting the ousted President. How shameful.

Submitted by head_ragg on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 8:49am.

This was way over due.

There has been a lot of deserving blacks, but there have been a lot that got their jobs only because of the reverse discrimination. Once there, they wouldn't work and would dare someone to fire them.

I personally hope that with this new law, the CEOs grow some balls and hire the most capable and also fire the ones that have had a free ride. I also hope when all undeserving get shown the door for not doing their job, as well as an attitude, the NAACP sues and goes broke doing it!

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Submitted by Fred Garvin on Mon, 06/29/2009 - 9:32pm.

As Justice Kennedy explains in the majority ruling, federal civil rights laws prohibit two different types of discrimination:
"disparate treatment" and "disparate impact." The plaintiffs in Ricci were plainly the victims of disparate treatment, which is prohibited by the plain language of the 1964 Civil Rights Act:

It makes it unlawful for an employer "to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise to discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of such individual's race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

"The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a
happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the
other. -- Ronald Reagan

Submitted by Bonkers on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 10:37am.

Need a little info---if you know?

Did every black "fail" the test, and if so what kind of questions were on the test? (you know: what color are your skin-colored band-aids, etc.?)

And, did every white pass the test?

Or did several pass and several fail? Of each race?

When the blacks were hnired did they pass a test then, if so why did they change it? Due to a promotion, maybe?

Can they only be low ranking firemen (only save part of the people)and can high ranking firemen save all of the people?

Then the Chief should be able to walk on water, should he not?

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Submitted by Cyclist on Mon, 06/29/2009 - 8:05pm.

about her earlier decision during her conformation hearings. I still believe that she will seated that is, unless she self-destructs.
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Submitted by Fyt35 on Mon, 06/29/2009 - 7:37pm.

Kudos to the Supreme Ct; another example of lower courts scared of addressing reverse discrimination issues as if it is taboo to do so, sickening!

"The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is".
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Submitted by cmc865 on Mon, 06/29/2009 - 7:05pm.

It was a very simple case of discrimination or as some like to say Reverse discrimination. None the less, it was an easy case that should have NEVER gone this far. Trying to right the wrongs of the past on today's generation is wrong. The old saying of two wrongs don't make a right. Everyone who took the test had the same opportunities and study materials required for the test. When the emergency tones drop you want the best, most qualified, person to handle the situation. The fire will not discriminate why should we? Placing a less qualified person in a position of supervision just because of race is criminal in my eyes. Especially if that individual makes a decision that could get a person hurt or killed. This job is not doughnut making or pushing paper and requires tough decisions made by trained and skilled fire officers. Believe me, you want the most qualified making those decisions.

Submitted by skippy875 on Thu, 07/02/2009 - 12:49pm.

I hear ya on this one old friend!! " The best, most qualified, person to handle the situation." Ring any bells? No, not alarm bells for you individuals that don't comprehend my rhetoric!! The placement of any individual into a position where there are more qualified and trained persons is criminal in itself. Would you not agree? A lesson learned here, maybe others are listening? This profession is without a doubt a calling, no doughnut makers or pencil pushers will ever understand that!! What a pity!!!!!!! Oh, I believe ya friend, honestly it rings loudly to those that know!!!!!!!!!!!

Submitted by eldergent on Mon, 06/29/2009 - 6:26pm.

If my fire alarm goes off in the middle of the night I won't be thinking about the race, gender, religion, politics or sexual preference of the fire fighters. I want the best qualified to be in charge even if that person is a one-eyed, left-handed, gay or lesbian who swears in church, chews tobacco and spits in public and is married to a first cousin.

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