And yes, no attitude would be nice.

"no up front costs to the city". If the fence is going to come down, I think that is an up-front cost. Why would it need to be fenced at all if it is a public park? Oh, me-thinks there will be costs, no question about it. You can bet your little man-toys on that.

We just don't have enough little play areas for all the PTC man/boyz, yet, do we? How about the skateboard ramps and BMX trails a couple hundred yards down the same road? No cost there, right?

Let's just see what how much of the next three year's rec. dept. budget this little piece of fantasy land eats up.

I can't see how improving it will hurt PTC at all. Obviously, you disagree.

Volunteers or not, once people are allowed access to this property, the city will have to spend money on it. Where will the money come from? We don't even have enough to pave parking lots at city hall and fire stations, obviously.
Why not keep the property as is till the economy shows improvement? Then, properly budget funds to operate it as a public park.

I think it is just a lot for these guys to play with their little cars!
They will probably sign a paper as to insurance problems?

A few people have raised the liability question on this issue. How bad could liability insurance on an RC park really be? Especially when you compare it to jungle gyms, bmx tracks, pools and other things the city already has?

Personally, I don't really see the point in having a RC park. This is a beautiful peace of property on the lake. It could be turned into a very nice picnic park at very little expense.

it would be a nice site for just as you say.

Why not attend the next city council meeting and make suggestions on what you beleive they should do with the property?
Also, I think they are always open to volunteers woh can help supervise the property or raise private funds to do something else with the land.
This might be a great time to pitch in and help.

Will it have: paved parking; grandstands; toilets; water; sewer; be locked up; open at all times; supervised; allow drinking and eating (with garbage collection); pass EPA "wash" standards; have any grass--mowed; what will eventual capital and annual costs be to city?

Who carries the insurance?

And obviously, what are you willing to work yourself on? As these people have agreed to help get it started, etc..right now, the property is an eyesore, anything of improvement would be nice.

Sounds like a good oportunity to propose an ice rink.

Do you think the "IceMan" may have changed his tactics and is now going for a remote vehicle park? Or will the rv operators be skating while operating these toys? Anyway you slice it, if Peachtree approves this we will be skating on thin ice. No money to repair all the things that need to be repaired---borrowing money to cover those expenses=raised taxes. If there is money in the treasury to cover whatever the city would cover then that money should go to other needed repairs or to help facilities now open, i.e., longer library hours, etc.

Maybe this is Dar's new secrect strategy. Pitch an idea that is so silly that people will think his ice rink idea is a great idea just by comparison.

Or even better, the city council could re-zone the property and sell it to a developer who could then build a low-income lakefront apartment building.

That is a great observation!