There's nothing to stop the State from developing a non-discriminatory way to check citizenship for voter registration. The State was using SSI and driver's licenses to purge registration list resulting in the citizens having, in some cases, to file law suits against the State to reinstitute their right to vote. The whole issue is an attempt to suppress minority votes, The practice was so egregious that even Alberto Gonzales objected and when he intervened the State under Cathy Cox, refused to make available the voters list resulting in a Gonzales DOJ suit against the State forcing Cox to provide the list:

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In places like East Timor, Togo and Venezuela every citizen is automatically registered and several months before the election the voter registration list is made public. Citizens are sent a verification letter which they must present at the polling place along with ID. All of this is highly publicized and if you don't receive your voter authorization letter there is time before the election to correct it.

In the case of Georgia, if you got married and changed your name (so that it then didn't match the SSI registration), or if you moved (so that your address didn't match your driver's license) you were purged. This affected minorities 60% more than whites and Hispanics 50% more and was ruled discriminatory.

Georgia and the Republican Party have a long and rich history of trying to suppress votes by minorities and Hispanics. Perdue is now backing a bill trying to require proof of citizenship at the polling place, SB56 I think. It will be struck down by the DOJ as sure as the sun rises in the East.

Why not develop a database of Ga. citizens and register them? Because the R's are horrified at everybody being registered. Why is the voting list secret? Why were 200,000 flagged weeks before the election?

Register everybody automatically, contact them before the election to verify the information is correct, provide photo ID for those that don't have it then require the verification letter and photo ID to vote. Problem solved. If East Timor and Togo can do it why can't Georgia? They could if they wanted to. The Republican Party won't allow it. They don't want minorities and Hispanics to vote.

Here is the basic question: why is the registered voter list not public?

JeffC this has been a game of gotcha and vote generation for 175 years. Can any party truly claim to have an ideal concerning this? Vote generation from recent immigrants, voter intimidation, and voter manipulation have been in play in almost every precinct historically. Tammany made a great machine out of this in the wards of New York. The Democrats play for a fast and loose election roll because it has historically worked well for them in democratic bastions such as New York and Chicago. Why did Gore cherry pick on 4 Florida counties to have a recount in 2000? It was because that is where the most votes could "turn up". Heavier population, more opportunity for graft. Minnesota played out similarly, but for the democratic advantage in 2008. Vote boxes magically reappear, are misplaced, or are double counted. Republicans generally try to make voter generation (or creation) harder to do because it generally happens in urban areas, with heavy immigrant and illegal populations, who generally are for government spending and entitlements-strong Democratic ideals. But seriously, after reviewing the voter logs from groups such as Acorn- with people such as Brett Farve suddenly becoming registered voters in both Ohio and Nevada (in addition to MS and WI) are you going to suggest that Democrats are cloaked in righteousness?

under The National Voter Registration Act (Motor Voter Act) is just about non existent. So what good would this database provide since the information gleamed comes from the mail-in forms?

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that Minorities are not intelligent enough to get registered or get a pic ID.. If I was Black.. DAVIDS MOM... I would be screaming at the LIBs. How else can you explain why the Libs all say Blacks are hit hardest?

""My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."- Barack Obama"

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..

with a very wide brush. Anyways, the more important news of the day is that the weather at the beach is improving. I might be able to get a hook wet this afternoon.
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Thanks. I'll chew on that for a while.

But I wonder about this:

This affected minorities 60% more than whites and Hispanics 50% more and was ruled discriminatory.

Two questions/comments:

(1) Why did this affect minorities significantly more than whites?

(2) All else equal, I do not see that the conclusion that the policy is discriminatory, in either intention or consequence, follows--at least not by default. (This reminds me of arguments that have arisen at times in the context of academia. An institution may hold, say, high and fixed admission standards, and it is discovered that members of some group are significantly less likely to meet the criteria. Are the standards thus discriminatory?)

Here is the basic question: why is the registered voter list not public?

Yeah...I like the idea. Then I can use the list to purge those Obama voters off my payroll and refer to it with future new hires. Then I can use the list to see whose kids are acceptable to allow in my house so my kids won't have be around those Democrat raised scoundrels.

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Those that say that there is no need to verify an applicant is not eligible to vote because that act is against the law should look what happen to former Congressman Bob Dornan AKA "B1 Bob". He lost his election in 1996 by 979 votes. A recount found that 624 of those votes came from non-citizens and another 124 were thrown out. But hey, do you think the non-citizens were ever brought to trial. Heck they could not be found. ID everyone!!! You have to do it to get on a flight.
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post Fred post. Run that post pattern Fred, run Fred run, go long with it Fred, long, long, long, go real long Fred, go way out there with it Fred, go, go, go, go Fred go. Show 'em Fred, show 'em, show 'em ignorance Fred, show 'em what it looks like Fred, show, show, show, post Fred post. Make 'em lose count Fred, go Fred go, you don't need no steenking counts Fred, go Fred go, go long with it Fred, real long Fred, way out there Fred, go Fred go.

It's not easy being the carbonunit

That's rich Carb.

Question for you? Are we a muslim nation? Our president just said so. He also said we are not a Christian nation. Well... if the Christians in this country WAY outnumber the muslims in this country then how can we be a muslim country and not a Christian country?

I just don't understand you librul people's math. Hmmmm.. no wonder I can't understand how pissing away hundreds of billions of dollars on propping up the least productive businesses, financial institutions, and people in this country is going to strengthen our foundations. They aren't are they?

But it doesn't matter to you does it? Just mock my post and make fun of the daily news issues Fred posts rather than refuting intelligently each story. Me is beginning to think the real issue here is that you can't. After hearing you guys chant We Can, We Can over and over I think it's starting to dawn on you characters that you really can't.

Hmmmm... Listening to the Democrats scold the GOP over the last few years was acceptable in my books. Knowing deep down that their scolds were mere 'Read My Lips' moments has been sooooooo prophetic. One thing about the Dems...... when you guys one-up the Repubs you most certainly know how to put them to shame.

God help us all.....

Continue on with your 'Fred Bashing'

You forgot to throw these in..."Lies, Lies.... Fred Lies, Fred's a liar".

Carb...it's time for you to change you tag line buddy. Might I suggest this for you? "Who needs facts when you have ideology?"

Don't Spread My Wealth.... Spread My Work Ethic

dig through.

Since you chose to bring up this:

"You forgot to throw these in..."Lies, Lies.... Fred Lies, Fred's a liar".

I promise to only ask you one question. I hope you answer it.

When the blogger who calls himself "fred garvin" said this:

Submitted by Fred Garvin on Fri, 10/10/2008 - 8:49am.

At least I have the guts to put my real name on my blogs.

How would you characterize that statement, Gitreal?

In my life and line of work, we only have our word. You prove to speak falsely, and you are absolutely done. Hate to see you making excuses or minimizing something as basic as honesty.

With that, I'm going to keep my word to someone more important than any blog.

Good day, and Good luck.

Cheers.

Like I'm going to say anything about anyone not using their real name?

As far as Fred's statement goes.... if it is not his real name then he shouldn't have said it. Period.

In my life and line of work, we only have our word. You prove to speak falsely, and you are absolutely done. Hate to see you making excuses or minimizing something as basic as honesty

Do you apply that to Nancy, Obama and the DNC as well?

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You might want to recount that Kevin.

We'll wait....

Oh Bah Ma Oh Bah Mah Oh Bah Ma Oh Bah Ma Oh Bah Mah Oh Bah Ma Oh Bah Ma Oh Bah Mah Oh Bah Ma

.... still counting?

I understand why you clung to my feeble attempt at humor while ignoring the lie of "fred". You believed it . Didn't you say this?

"Either one makes anyone who believes his BS as gullible as the White House Press Corps."

Dude, are you one to talk?

Good luck with your losing Denise-Conner-like political ideas. At least it will give you something to do besides wallowing in job envy

Cheers

and as such I look at this comment "You prove to speak falsely, and you are absolutely done. Hate to see you making excuses or minimizing something as basic as honesty." I cannot really argue that point, I just wonder if that means that Michael Vick is now truly "done" No doubt that he told some whoppers for lies. Do you think that he is "done" as well? Just curious. I do not like to compartmentalize character issues and traits.

I'll try to keep it pithy and hold back on the rubbish.

I only post items that I find important and issues that are buried by the mains stream press.

I can't believe you can even count after all the koolaid you've drank. You must have someone else doin' it for you. Now that's funny. Hahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep the truth coming Fred. There still may be a glimmer of "hope" for Sniff.

stop with the counting... you guys are clogging up the stream and pushes many post off the thread..many of us want to discuss some of the issues related there in.. This constant counting of Freds blogs is trival at best.. I do not believe anyone cares but you two.. Letum post as many as he wants.. you do I do, we all do.. WHO THE HECK CARES!!!

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..

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Coffee, tea or Fredie G, baby.

You've put me in a bind here, S. Lindsey.

Yesterday you criticized us liberals for not responding to one of "Fred"'s incessant blog entries in a timely manner.

Today, however, you're upset that we're trying to respond to "Fred"'s blogs in a timely manner.

Please help a brother out here. Thank you in advance.

I commented on "no comments" I criticized all the counting going on.. Them thare r what we call FACTS.. you know basic truths.. that thing you say I know nothing about..

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..

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So you are of the opinion that there is a difference between the concept of "commentary" and the concept of "criticism"?

Well whaddaya know!

My understanding was that "criticism" was a logical subset of "commentary", heck, I've even used the word "criticism" as shorthand for "critical commentary".

I guess they teach things differently in Alabama.

if you were not so pig headed (criticism) you would understand what I meant (commentary)..

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..

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Are you an illegal? You seem to know very well how it all works. And I know you are a member of the Citizen.com "rat pack" who like to call people names when they don't agree with you...so have at it. I don't care. BTW..It isn't "Yes We Can" anymore...It's "Yes We Did." Now, you may continue your madness or your obsession with President Obama, yours and Fred Garvin's favorite word. According to you everyone has the obsession sickness, except you and he.

Keep your postings current and make sure that at least some of it is true...The things you blah, blah, blah about are what the American people didn't buy (NOVEMBER 4). Remember?

As for the "New Black Panther Party"? Do you want to join or something? You should apply...they may take you. You might have more in common with them than you think.

All people of Hispanic heredity are not "illegal". The mere fact that you are unaware of this shows your level of ignorance and lack of multicultural awareness. (In other words - you aren't even a good liberal.)

No, I don't want to join the Black Panther Party or I already would have. I wasn't aware that you were in charge of membership for the local wanna-be-chapter. What I actually want is to see you serving them cookies and grape kool-aid in an apron with a bow in your hair. And kneeling at their feet until they send you on your next errand.

Which brings us to three things:

1) Learn to spell my name if you want to call me out.

2) Have something to say with some relevance to the topic of the thread.

3) Care to argue any political points in any of my dozens of posts because this little name calling exchange is for the mentally bankrupt and politically ignorant like you but the topics I have posted are meant to be commented on by the intellectually astute like me.

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Yes you did yes you did yes you did yes you did yes you did Yes you did yes you did yes you did yes you did yes you did Yes you did yes you did yes you did yes you did yes you did Yes you did yes you did yes you did yes you did yes you did.

I'm not a racist bigot. You did exactly what I said you would.You called me names. Here's the mirror...look in it....what do you see? If I had a level of ignorance it couldn't hold a candle to yours. If what you say and do here is called multicultural awareness....I'll pass on that.

I like cookies....I don't drink kool-aid (too sweet)...my husband may like the bow and apron idea, but we won't go there. Kneeling to anyone isn't an option for me, sorry.

Which brings us to three things:

1) I purposely left the "R" from your name.

2) Everything I said pertained to your blog above.

3) I never argue with anyone. I actually like hearing different sides of all topics, when they are based on truth and when people can agree to disagree without becoming mean, ugly and vicious. I think it is possible to do so. I am open to opinions that make sense. I didn't call you a name, but you in your response called me, racist, bigot,ignorant,mentally bankrupt,and suggested that I should wear bows and an apron kneeling at the feet of the Black Panthers (to run their errands??). YESSSSS that is definitely what YOU would consider intellectually astute...like you. I'm sure that your past and future posts will be so evident and filled with your personal definition of astuteness.

Is there some sort of joke behind that? Are you making fun of the way that you think hispanic people speak? I am really curious about this one as I am sure you are much more enlightened that that...

No joke and I would never ever make fun of the how any nationality speaks and I wouldn't want it done to me either. I have read posts here that poked fun at the graduates who spoke at the HS ceremonies in Fayette County, calling them "ebonic." I asked the question of that poster, "who speaks like that"? I knew I wouldn't get an answer and I didn't. I left it alone.
I am a minority twice over. But I can tell by reading his post's what would ignite JM's rant against me. Something as simple as leaving the "R" out of his name. he feels so superior here in blogsville.

He may not have remembered me from last week, being so engrossed in himself, but I commented on some of the scary and hate filled things that were being posted and he preceded to put my name in big bold letters and belittle me as a (in his words) "nutcase." Just because of my comment. Give me a break.

I wouldn't have changed anything in my post. I said what I wanted to say as he did and without personally insulting him. Now...I hope I answered your curiosity (not that I really had to explain myself) and you are correct...I am very enlightened as to what is good for the goose is definitely good for the gander and MONKEY's don't count. Have A Great Weekend!!

.... and she can't change her blog so she is left with "I did that on purpose".

She was caught and called out for her predjugemental racist views of Hispanics and backpedaled as fast as possible by imitating my retort in an attempt to appear more intelligent.

I assume that in 'Monkey see Monkey do' situations the 'Monkey do' is also quite proud.

'Merri-do'

I enjoy your posts by the way.

This Merrilyn character really doesn't bring much to the table, does she?

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Will choose the table of which I would like to bring my discussions. I wouldn't feel welcome nor do I desire to sit at yours on any topic. I remember a past conversation with you when you had the picture with the painted black face.

That was enough for me.

I remember a past conversation with you when you had the picture with the painted black face.

Yes... and you didn't bring much to the discussion at that time either did you? Wanna revist the reason WHY GIT REAL HAD THE PICTURE WITH THE PAINTED BLACK FACE? I'd be glad to go there with you again you ignorant bigot defender.

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Schmoochie to ya.

The Black Painted Face Picture Is In Honor Of Merrilyn And Her Bigoted Defense Of White Painted Faces

Table metaphors have never received such shoddy treatment.

Can ya eat while standing, lady?

Watch me now....

I have been reading your blogs for quite some time now. I like them. But, with all due respect, you aren't really regarded as one who makes understatements ... no thing bad intended ...but Git, that might well be the understatement of the year.

No offense intended.

Back in a couple weeks...flying out tonight with laptop in tow but the Mrs. might well limit my connectivity since I have work open on the other pages of my browser

Why are vacations so stressful?!?