Nope, sorry but that's not me. Just curious what she solicits though... Have nothing to do with WHS, I'm just someone who read an article in the newspaper where the Whitewater girl's coach made the statement that it's hard for her team to play down to the level of some of the other girl's teams in the county and was disturbed by her apparent lack of class. Real winners don't have to rub salt in the wounds of teams after they beat them and I though her comments demonstrated not only a lack of tact but an arrogance that I hope she isn't instilling in her team. As a coach resposible for shaping these young women not only on the field but off of it as well she should know better. Again kudos to the girls and they deserve alot of credit for their accomplishments. Nothing but great things to say about the talented players!

... but apparently wildcat is not aware.

From the day the school opened I have seen all of the other local high schools try very hard to be as friendly as possible but in return they have been on the receiving end of "only real cat in town" attitude and the nasty, arrogant, derogatory and condescending comments like you mention over the last several years.

The bad news is that nothing will change until and unless the people who work there and the administration team all realize that they indeed have a problem. Truly it is at very minimum a perception problem.

Remember those "county champion" shirts Whitewater wore even though Sandy Creek beat them in football? Examples abound. Considering that all of those kids attending WHS would have either been at FCHS or SMHS I fail to see why the arrogance is so pervasive. Of course, many of the athletes have been from Clayton Co as well. Some declared homeless and lived with coaches who were dismissed for soliciting sex from students. After all, they do in fact lead the county schools in students on special permission and out of district for the fifth straight year.

In other words, every school has multiple examples of how they have been insulted and demeaned by this same group of teachers and administrators. It remains the hope of the community that whitewater will simply begin to teach sportsmanship by modeling it.

The administration and coaches have to start the transition by setting the tone and example and shutting down a nasty run-through or tempering an arrogant coaches comments.

Can you imagine a cheer leading run through at McIntosh that portrayed a drunk female administrator in a golf cart or a football coach texting a female student to solicit her for sexy pictures?

We would never allow such poor sportsmanship or derogatory comments in our other schools yet for some reason (Dr. DrCotis' child attends WHS) we have tolerated poor sportsmanship at WHS.

The good news is, the Whitewater kids, when properly guided, seem to be much better sportsman than the coaches and sponsors. Change WILL come either through humility or a long overdue change in the administrative team at the school. So, Lisa, just disregard the fervent (nearly rabid) attacks that you will have to endure for calling the wildcat coach out for her irresponsible and immature statements that belittle the other student athletes in our county high schools.

Lisa Presley and JMartinez, your screen names obviously not your real names.
You have taken on what is a favorite sport around here, attacking WHS with old accusations that have been beaten to death, old news is no news. Lisa sounds like a bag of sour grapes, anything you say is hard to believe the way you show so much hatred and despise in your comments.

Unless you have a child in every sports program in every school in this county, how in the world can you say that WHS has issues with arrogance on coaching staffs? I have news for you, this goes on everywhere! You guys state that ” It remains the hope of the community that whitewater will simply begin to teach sportsmanship by modeling it”, what a broad comment, what do you know about modeling sportsmanship when your post itself baseless and derogatory at best; what a sham! Oh yeah, I didn’t know you were a spokesperson for the community. You base this on the personal comments of one coach? People like you two waste no time in airing WHS’s laundry, selective memory I must say. Did you forget about the drunken cheerleaders and drug bust at McIntosh H.S.? Or the sexual predator teacher, (or was it two) at Starr’s Mill, or how about the gang related beat downs at FCHS?

You two must be bored! Oh, BTW, “the only cat in town” mural came down over a year ago; get your facts straight and update your info JMartinez before you point fingers. The real good news is that the WHS students are better individuals that JM and Lisa, talk about “pouring salt” in wounds; funny at best. If I come across angry, guess what, I am. It gets old when some folks in this county out of shear boredom decide to revive the attacks of WHS; very pathetic. Look at your own school and try to solve your own problems before point fingers.

"The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is".
Winston Churchill

Something said must have hit close to home! FYT35 we all know that there are problems at every school in the county, but you got to admit...the arrogance comments regarding Whitewater are hard to ignore. My kids have been involved in sports in Fayette county for years, football, wrestling, baseball, cheerleading, and soccer, trust me when I say its not JUST soccer that you get it from.

I'm glad to hear the mural is gone, it never should have been up in the first place, but hey, its Whitewater, what do you expect? Any other school in the county would have been chastised and ordered to remove it as soon as the first Whitewater Fan/Parent/Teacher/Administrator saw it.

before you accused me of attacking the entire Whitewater High School athletic program? I clearly stated that Whitewater is an excellent school and was only mentioning one specific person who happens to work at Whitewater. If this incident had happened at any other school and I was familiar with it I would have certainly pointed it out as well. I agree with you that this kind of thing does happen at other schools too, but rather than lump everyone at Whitewater together as you have accused me of doing, I was discussing one specific incident. I wasn't aware that my comments showed hatred or "despise" as you put it, although I'm not quite sure what that is supposed to mean. Perhaps the word you were searching for was "spite"? I guess JMart was right in one regard that there would be "rabid" reactions to my comments and that is a shame. Perhaps your comments would seem a little less like histrionic if you had taken the time to really read and comprehend what I wrote before you commented.

I certainly do not wish to take anything away from the players who worked so hard and did so well. I'm not attempting to trash the entire school either, but as a representative of WHS the coach chose her words poorly and like it or not it reflected badly on the program (which happens to be at Whitewater high school).

By the way, although I'm not related to Elvis (unfortunately) Lisa Presley is my real name and I have no reason to hide who I am. After all that's part of being a grown-up - being accountable for the things you say. My parents and my coaches taught me that.

Lisa, thanks for your reply.
Here is the problem I have with your post; if you want to praise the accomplishments of any high school team regardless of what school it is, please do so, I’m there with you! However, you did the WHS girls a disservice by chastising their coach in the same breath and JMart came along adding all this other trash that had absolutely nothing to do with your initial comment on the great season these girls had.
That can be done in a separate post, I would hope.

I use my real name here (which I am beginning to think is a mistake)but clearly you do not. I cannot speak for Lisa P. but apparently you think that you can.

It is obvious however that you have heard many times what I stated as FACT and I feel certain you are aware of your school's problem - again be it real or perceived.

It's wonderful that you have finally painted over your arrogant gym slogan, (although it made a comical background to some of the photos when you played FCHS that I saw in the paper) now if you can just stick a cork in some of your coaches mouths and paint a few banners that don't degrade other school's (like the run through I saw at a SM/WHS football game) and teach your fans how to not throw things from the stands at FCHS fans like they did at a football game two years ago that I attended then you will begin to move in the right direction.

Of course, you can show what an arrogant pompous ass you are by remaining in denial, accusing schools that are not the topic of this blog of like behavior and pretending that you are outraged by the same comments that you have been hearing for years.

And yes, 1bighammer, I did hit a nerve and it was REALLY easy to do.

states " you can show what an arrogant pompous ass you are by remaining in denial".
How sad that you fail to show the same class your demand others should have, did I hit a nerve here? Humorous!

Don't stop mid-sentence. The ENTIRE quote is:

Of course, you can show what an arrogant pompous ass you are by remaining in denial, (and here is the part you left out, and I REALLY like this part)accusing schools that are not the topic of this blog of like behavior and pretending that you are outraged by the same comments that you have been hearing for years.

You hypocrites always seem to leave out some of the most pertinent portions of a persons personification. Cute.

...thanks again for making my point, beautiful!

Ignorance is indeed bliss. Your happiness is insured.

Hey, by the way, I learned today from a friend of mine at SMHS that the SMHS girls won a region or area championship in every single spring sport. Has that ever been done before? I know we haven't done it at NHS.

Is that why you women at WHS are so angry? FCHS and SCHS beat you all winter and then SMHS and MHS beat you all spring so you feel you have to tear down others by saying 'it's hard to play down to the competition in the rest of the county'?

Jealousy is such an ugly emotion. Lisa P. is right

Let me clarify that it’s Mr.Fyt35 to you bucko.
Second, it is a great accomplishment that the SMHS girls reached that level of competition, congratulations to them!
I don’t speak for WHS or their coaches, that the coaches problem, not mine. Check your spring sports information, Starr’s Mill and WHS girls advanced to the lacrosse playoffs, did NHS do so?
Lisa P is right, Jealousy is such an ugly emotion, and you keep showing it with every post. If you have a contention with the soccer coach at WHS, why don’t yo send her an e-mail?
Te cortaron los huevos?

So now we are back to the original post and you are in agreement with me and Lisa P. that the arrogant coaches are creating a problem.

Gee, that was a long way around about for nothing.

(So, if I am now Bucko does that make you Buckette?)

are you asking for a date now? Bucko and Buckette?

rub your earlobes and say "WOOSAAH" a couple of times. Fyt35 I see where you are coming from about praising the girls in the same post that I criticize the coach in but my point is that no matter how much you want to focus on the positivity of the girls achievements it winds up being tarnished because of the coach's actions. It is unfair to the players after they worked so hard to have their coach ruin it for them by her arrogance. That is where I am coming from. Seems like the grownups ruin it for the kids in most sports these days because the parents and coaches can't act like they have some sense. JMart -appreciate the solidarity brother. Now, both of you throw your your anger sharks some food and let's call it a day. "Nuff said.

As a WHS parent (and also SMHS and FCHS parent at one time)I felt the need to reply to your post. It appears as though you fail to realize that these are schools and rivalry exists as it has for years and years. FYI, the only real cat slogan was painted over as so many found it offensive (it wasn't meant to be). Sexual offenders slip through the cracks at all schools, or have you forgotten the FCHS teacher that had all kinds of porn (including animal sex) on his computer, the SCHS PE teacher that was caught performing unmentionable acts at school in front of his webcam, the SMHS English teacher that was having sex with a student and the RSMS teacher that was busted last year? It happens and it's not the school's fault, these people are usually masters at hiding their true nature. The special permission kids at WHS is a problem and we all wonder why that happens. WHS is over capacity, so why do they continue to take kids that are slated to go to FCHS, which is where the majority of them come from and since FCHS is under capacity it just doesn't make sense. Yesterday I rode in with my kid and we parked next to a car with a WHS permit and a Clayton County tag! How does that happen? One of my kids has a class in a trailer and she told me that a FCHS special permission kid had her schedule changed because her mother didn't want her in a trailer. Is this the school or the county?

by the administration of the school. I would love to know how many "special permission" students are also athletes... Andre I am also a parent of children in Fayette County schools and you are right that these things happen at schools everywhere. Whitewater HS is an excellent school and I can remember my high school days where we had fierce rivalries between different schools in the county. I also remember our coach telling us that win or lose they expected us to act like champions. There wasn't a bunch of trash talking and rubbing it in the face of the loser if we won but rather, a recognition of the other team's effort and that with a slight change in circumstances we could have been on the losing end. If there was even a hint of arrogance, our coach was quick to correct it because that's not the attitude of a champion. You can understand trash talking to a degree I suppose from high school kids, but in this case the COACH was the one doing the trash talking and quite frankly that's not the example that I would want set for my daughters. I would expect the coach to demonstrate maturity and humility in handling a win or a loss so the girls will know how to handle it as well. I think the point I was trying to make in this particular case was that while winning is great and the team should be proud of their achievements, the COACH should be setting the example for these girls on how to behave like a true champion and unfortunatley that didn't happen. The girl's deserve better than that and so do the WHS soccer fans.

I don't think any spec permission kids are athletes. If I'm not mistaken that would be against GHSA rules (the bona fide move section), but you can go to their site and check for yourself.