Fred may have, in a final act of frustration, taken the "B" and the "O" off of his keyboard, and mashed the "D" into oblivion.

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I think Fred and Diva went out on a date.
They really like each other.

front page!

I have to go and take my medicine now so I'm going morph back into my dull and moderate state.

Good night.
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They do make a cute couple.

just ask the good mayor and citizens of NYC after that little photo-op fiasco.
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Was playing, aboard Air Force One, as the boys decided to take her up for a spin, im sure plenty of King Cobra, and Schlitz Malt Liquor, were being consumed, as the next track on the cd player in Caddilac One, was an old school 2 live crew track, ill let you decide which one i mean...Hey we want some P----, to get the festivities underway.... Not very smart....Deuces..

The photo op was a success and I bet they got some really good shots. It was the PR aspect that did not do well. It seems that only the Chicken Little types were interviewed. There were probably some people that were watching and figured it was an episode of "Celebrity Apprentice" being filmed.

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The photo-op was a success..

And just how did the President respond when he heard about it?
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was to the PR aspect, which was, as my middle granddaughter would put it, "not good". Perhaps it would have gone over better if the plane had been towing a banner that read "Eat More Mangoes". Who would have been afraid of that?

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Up as a can of Colt 45. would have made a good malt liquor ad...PEACE

Man you are funny.

Who wants to be the first one to eat in a food court free from FDA inspected products and government health department inspection?

Just don't eat the peanuts.

Who will argue that our government is very good at taking hard-headed, athletic high school athletes and turning them into killing machines that can put a 50 cal bullet through a pirate's skull from a moving boat?

The government found him.

He walked into a recruitment office.

The government screened him.

Yep, he's breathing and can walk.

The government equipped him.

Except the body armour.

The government got him to the place he needed to be with mil-spec coordinates. Thank god for GPS.

I'm for giving credit where it's due. GPS is owned and operated by the Guv. All of us civilians use it for free.
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Well I guess they have to get something right every now and then.

As long as it does what it does best.
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Hi neighbor

"Basic coverage" essentially mirrors a low-cost HMO, i.e. cosmetic surgery, chiropractic quackery, stomach stapling and sex change operations are not covered. Emergency and routine (think: diabetes) medical care ARE covered.

Well that's not going to work for you. I hope you have other insurance to take care of your looks, bad back, big stomach and man boobs.

people that gave us the VA Medical system.. Look what a great system that is.. You want to see what Goverment supplied Health Care looks like.. You don't even have to go the France.. Just ask a vet..
I am sure we can trust the Goverment to get this one right..

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..

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Those Darn Moderates in Congress have good health care, now it is time to share. It is in our society's best interest to have basic health care available for all citizens, just as a practical issue. For instance, without basic health care, infectious diseases have a much better chance of being successfully incubated in individuals who can not get any help for them, not to mention the cost in lost productivity that results from a sick populace. Among other things we can close most overseas military bases, scrap the "Man in Space" nonsense, and keep the citizens in the best condition within reason, for both practical and compassionate reasons. We waste more money than a national basic health care system would cost, especially one focused on preventative measures, such as riding a bicycle for exercise and eating more mangoes. The Botox and Viagra crowd will fend for itself, and can take all of the antidepressants needed when neither one of those work out as planned.

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What is "basic" health care? Is it everything (a through z) or is it limited in scope?
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I hope it means we will get our Ears, Noses, Mouths, Hearts, Limbs all checked as we use to when we went to see a Dr. They don't even touch you now unless it is to check something you tell them you want them to check.

Health-care reform has to happen and now is as good as time as any. They can tweak it where it needs to be tweaked as time goes on. I hope they take the best health-care ideas that work for all these other Countries and apply them here.

in what Country has Socialized Medicene worked?
Canada?? They come here for treatment.. England.. if over 65 yoa you will wait over 6 months for an MRI.. Spain forget it..3-6 month wait for non life threating surgery.. France even worse.. So please tell us what are the GOOD parts???

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First there is no perfect health-care system in any developed Country. Every country has picked what works for them. France is ranked number 1 in developed nations. We are ranked 37th. The top ten developed nations with national Health-care are in order ranked France, Italy, San Marino, Malta, Singapore, Spain, Oman, Austria, and Japan. Canada is 30th, United Kingdom is 18th, Saudi Arabia is 26th, United Arab Emirates 27th. All of these Countries are ranked higher than the most developed Country in the World, that being the U.S.A. The Question should be WHY, WHY don't we have Universal Health-care. We do have one thing other Country's do not have and that is the Most Expensive Health-care of any developed Nation. I might also add the most amount of health-care options that are so confusing it boggles the mind.

I can only speak of the few people that I know who live in other Countries with national Health-care. I know people in Italy who say they have never had a problem with the Health-care system. Italy is ranked 2nd. I know people in Germany and even a couple who are in the health-care Field who say it works fine. Not perfect mind you but it works. Germany is ranked 26th. I know of people who live in Eastern European Country who use the health-care system frequently and have no complaints. They pay around $60 each a month and that includes medications.

A relative who lived and worked here in the U.S. and had health insurance here, had medical prolems and no medical professional here could figure out what was wrong. Tests after tests were done but nothing found. Went backt to Eastern European Country they came from and was in the hospital almost immediately and the thyroid was removed. This person is in perfect health today. We claim to be the best in Health-care bue we are not perfect, there is no such system.

The point is , we have 44 or now 48 million people and growing in this Country, who do NOT have health-care. We have to do something, the system we have is not working for alll the legal citizens of this Country. With health-care lacking for a large portion of our population, this has consequences, as our hospitals and other care providers are forced into cost shifting at the expense of taxpayers and those with private insurance. So in the end we are paying for all those who don't have health insurance. One way or the other we are paying and if this is the case then let's get those 48 million and counting on a Health-care system so they can help pay too. There will be some that can't afford anything, some than can afford a little, just like all the other developed Countries. Their systems are working for them and I know we can work out a health-care system here. And since we are suposed to be the most developed Country in the world, we should, be able to come up wtih the best Universal health-care system of all the developed Nations.

and evacuations of some buildings.

This was brought to you by the same people that want to provide nationalized health care. Right!!!!

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And wait till Gore finds out about the size of the carbon footprint of a an empty B747 boring holes in the sky for nothing more than a .......photo op. Those CF6-80C2 engines burn over 1,000 gallons an hour and there are 4 of them.

To all my liberal friends out there I'm not really picking on you or your party. It's Monday and I feel a little "naughty" this evening.
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as the medicine is finally taking hold for this durn inner ear infection. Tomorrow, Cy will revert back to his low key and boring life as a moderate.

Good night all!!!

Cy.
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I didn't know that the Air Force is going to run our Health Care system? Gosh... learn something new each day.
By the way, for the record, the FAA knew, NYPD knew, the Mayor's office knew (they just didn't tell the Mayor). Whose responsibility is it to "get the word out?" I would assume the local government. Maybe we should put the blame where it belongs, the Mayor's office for dropping the ball. If the word had been put out, people could have gathered to take photos.
At least Obama's staff took the fall. They could have blamed the Pentagon.
But at least Sean and Rush have something else to whine about.

Louis Caldera authorized it and then had to apologize. The whole thing was a bureaucratic snafu. Like I said, and they want to nationalize our healthcare. Who's going to apologize for that snafu?
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According to the latest from Fox News, the flyby was requested by the Presidential Pilots Office (U.S. Air Force) to combine a training mission with a photo op for their historic records. The White House office of Military Affairs okayed it (why wouldn't they). The Air Force obtained all required permissions. NYPD stated they were asked not to publicize it (I assume to avoid any possible attempt to shoot it down).

Caldera took the blame instead of throwing the Air Force under the proverbial bus. The confusion now lies with the absolutely foreign notion that a member of our Administration would actually acknowledge responsibility. A mark of a leader that has been lacking for 8 years.

So, is this who we want running healthcare? Well, depends. At least they will stand up and be held accountable (even when they could have easily "passed the buck"). But as this forum is trying to explain, Obama's health plan is not exactly what Hannity, et.al. tries to portray it. This snafu was really the fault of local officials for not getting the word out.

Truth be told, it wasn't that big a deal. Airliners fly down the Hudson at 3000 ft. all the time on the entry to the southern runways at LGA. It was the maneuvering and fighter planes that "freaked" people out. Can't blame the people, but was it really such a huge deal that we are now blaming the White House?

By the time we pay for the additional taxes due to the "cap and trade" scheme I wonder if the economy can afford much in the way of proficiency training. Besides, those outside of the military, and for that matter flying, could mandate the use of those articulated boxes on stilts rather than the real thing. After all, they know more about your business than you because.....well because the "people" elected them.

BTW, comrade Blah is looking to take things. Me thinks that he/she bleives our pay is too much.
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You have committed the ultimate sin! You spelled "believes" incorrctly! Same word I did and Blop Blop took me to task. Get ready for the assault.

Look Blah.... AtHomeGym spelled "incorrectly" incorrectly!!! Tee Hee!

Don't Spread My Wealth.... Spread My Work Ethic

Even the President is shaking his head about the whole episode. It was a bureaucratic screwed up. As for health care angle it's the bureaucracy that will complicate things.

And I'm still waiting on Gore to chime in about the carbon footprint issue. Perhaps that's just for us little people.

BTW, I don't listen to Hannity nor Rush.

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I apologize for the "Hannity" remark. I use that tongue in cheek because they seem to represent "anti-everything." I just am amazed that the whole airplane incident is placed at the doorstep of the White House when it was really the Air Force. My point is that it was really a no big deal event being used to attempt to embarrass Obama.

I agree that bureaucracy is not the greatest choice. But no one seems to have suggested an alternative that will help those who don't have employer provided health care.

As to the carbon footprint, there is a need for pilots to train (especially the Presidential pilots). This was a routing trainer that they doubled to get some great photos of Air Force One over some of our most recognizable monuments. It was a two for one deal. It actually was set up to save money.

Are we to suggest that military pilots don't train? Even Al Gore would argue that one.

The guy who designed the Canadian healthcare system says it's in a crisis and he's now advocating private control of much of the system and we're going towards that?
The U.K. is restricting access to the use of drugs it knows it will work because the U.K. can't pay for them. There is a drug out, Tarceva It's for lung cancer. "Despite numerous studies showing that the drug significantly prolongs the life of cancer patients and the unanimous endorsement of lung cancer specialists throughout the U.K., the government has determined that a drug is too expensive to cover." (source: NICE)
If you fit into the average, well, you're going to be fine. If you are outside of the average, sucks to be you,
The WHO ranks our healthcare system 37th best in the world. The real story... The WHO cares less about the quality of healthcare than the distribution of it.
"The WHO ranking is garbage, for two reasons:
First, the study takes overall life expectancy into account. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but the U.S. has quite a few more fatal car accidents than countries where bikes and rickshaws are the main transportation options...that doesn't really have anything to do with the quality of our healthcare. Our homicide rate is also a lot higher than many countries and while that's nothing to brag about, it has no relevance to how skilled our doctors are.

The second reason we're ranked so low is because of what I mentioned earlier: the WHO looks at how, quote: "fairly" health care is distributed. But again, that HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE QUALITY OF THAT CARE -- it's just a play to make you envy the system in France; a system with huge tax burdens, forty percent co-pays, long waiting lists and DMV-style service. That sounds like fun, where do I sign up! Oh, I remember, at the voting booth next November." (Source:Foxnews/Glenn Beck)
Glenn has this one correct.. You can not use data from the WHO without looking at the source and stats used to predict the data itself.. Mortality rates are a prime example.. Others Countrys do not report the stats as we do.. thus we are ranked much lower than most..Why.. easy if you don't report stats evenly across the board then the results will be skewed to one side or the other..
UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE.. is a farce.. it is not needed in this Country it is just a Main Stream Media hyped issue that makes sure that the Democrats get another ENSLAVED voting block.. Worked for the WELFARE crowd.. and now just another entitlement program to capture another group of "ME TOOs" more please... people.

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..

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Concerning people from other Countries and Health-care. Those I know and perfect Strangers I have asked this Question. Would you give up your National Health-care system? Their answer, NO WAY...

Once you get on a Goverment entitlement program you never want off.. No incentive to do so.. WELFARE is a prime example.. Does anyone ever say WELFARE works that WELFARE is great.. No.. but let someone talk about ending it.. and people scream..
It's a drug.. It's SLAVERY in another form.. and IT IS A GUARANTEED VOTING BLOCK FOR THE DEMOCRATS Once you get on the program.. become dependent on it.. you have to come back for more or at least keep voting them in.. They are your supplier now... Sounds just like a drug addiction to me..

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But the projected US federal debt just after 2011 will be greater than than the nation's GDP.

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Obviously, government spending is way out of line. I believe we should cut other budgets to fund this initiative and not have the issue of health care held back by budgetary constraints. This requires a shifting of priorities, which will be the biggest obstacle.

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Spending is getting out of line. Where would you propose we cut back? I don't think you'll have much luck cutting expenditures in a Democratic administration, particularly after 8 years of what was essentially Republican neglect.

I propose, for starters, that we scrap the SDI/"Star Wars" program in its entirety. I feel it's become a DOD contractor black hole. Savings: $26 billion per year.

Secondly, I propose drastic cutbacks in our nuclear submarine programs. Submarines have not been "mission critical" to the United States since the collapse of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s. What exactly is their mission nowadays? We have 85 nuclear subs. How many do we really need? Savings: Who knows? Classified info. Suspect around 5-10 billion/year between construction and maintenance?

Third, I propose dropping any and all food production subsidies to agribusiness. Period. Savings: $16 billion per year minimum.

Those are three suggestions of mine, I'd welcome hearing others suggestions.

The President's 2010 budget is about 33% more than the anticipated receipts or $1.172 Trillion in the red. While your numbers are a start it only represents 4.5% of the Defense budget. In order to achieve budget equilibrium a cut of 33% from each budgeted item - with exception of interest paid - is necessary.

Now where do we began?
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You know they are getting some so "ME TOO".. We have become an entitlement people.. Some want something for nothing.. Well NEW FLASH GANG..AIN'T NOTHING FOR FREE Someone is going to have to pay for "FREE HEALTH CARE" When did it become my responcibility to pay for someone elses healthcare??? I am responcibile for mine and my family.. But those that don't pay taxes over 50% of Americans now do not.. Well sure gimmie some of that too.. The taxpayer has become a Buffet line with more and more people piling more and more on their plates.. and as long as they don't pay for it well who cares?? I DO..

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..

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If the war in Iraq could pay for itself, why can't this? Wait... I'm getting a text... Iraq wasn't free? Ummm.... uhhhh...never mind.

Buffet line! I got to stay away from them!!!!
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So many choices and only one stomach.. Never thought I would be jealous of a bovine..??

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Margaritaville City BABY

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Don't forget...sunscreen.

To ugly to burn.. to old to care

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..

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Almost everyone pays some kind of tax. Property, Sales, Income, Cell phone, Electric, Gas, GAS, Car TAGS, on and on. Taxes, taxes, everywhere, no matter, in one way or another everyone pays some kind of tax. You can't take it with you so what is the difference. You can save and save all your life and something pops up and away goes your money.

A friends in-laws saved a goodly sum from many many years of working. They both in their late 80's and early 90's had to go into a nursing home. At $10,000 a month for both their savings didn't last very long nor did their house which also goes to the nursing home. Yes, there were things they could have done to pass on some of their possessions to those they loved but they chose not to do that. After the nursing home uses all their money and sells their house then their care falls to the taxpayers.

Here today gone tomorrow, we all have to pay taxes that is just the way it is. We are a caring Country. There are always going to be people who have and have not.

I'm not going to get into those Politicians who forget what our tax dollars are suppose to be spent on and that is the people and to make life better for all of us U.S. Citizens.

"Almost everyone pays some kind of tax. Property, Sales, Income, Cell phone, Electric, Gas, GAS, Car TAGS, on and on. Taxes, taxes, everywhere, no matter, in one way or another everyone pays some kind of tax. You can't take it with you so what is the difference. You can save and save all your life and something pops up and away goes your money."
Well Boo that's my choice.. we all make choices., some great some not so great.. When has it become my respocibility to fix someone elses poor choices..
I did not benefit from lifes lottery..(sic).. I had a HS education worked 10-12 hours a day (no healthcare) put myself thru school and basically pulled myself up by the old preverbial boot straps.. If I did it others can too.. It is only about choices and the willingness to sacrifice a little.. While my friends went to Daytona and partied hard.. I worked.. and worked... and well worked. I made the sacrifices required to get me here today.. I made a choice..
I know it sucks to be poor.. been there and had the credit score to prove it.. but make a few sacrifices make a few better choices and anyone can make it in the USA..
But sit on your lazy butt with your hand out wanting a hand out and there is no incentive to make a better choice.. You just sold yourself to another form of SLAVERY.. controled by just another MASTER.. THE GOVERMENT.

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By reading your posts I suppose you'd also prefer to let the elderly who have also worked all their lives, raised families, and also paid into the system, but are now practically penniless but unable to work due to health and aging issues just be left on the street and not receive healthcare because they can't pay for it. I am not in favor of socialism, but I do believe that in order to have some liberties and privelages in this country it's take and GIVE. Granted, I'm not about supporting the unwed mom who continues to choose to have children by many different fathers and collect her check every month. But there are some in this country who deserve a little help. I don't think I'd want to see your parents or mine laying in their bed crippled with pain because they can't afford healthcare. Since when was America "all about me"

is for. Unfortunately, it might run out of money in about 9 years.
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Medicare, Family, Local Charities etc.. Those that truly need assistance no problem, but Peach you are missing the point.. When we are talking about Socialized Medicene.. aka.. National Health Care we are talking about the average Joe Blow with a job and yes including the WELFARE MOMMAS OUT there... the lazy bums you see walking the streets at 2pm and 9pm.. the drop outs and the drop ins.. all get it.. That is how our Goverment works.. You see in this life no one promised to make good on your poor choices.. You make minimum wage.. have a family and 2 kids and no healthcare.. sorry sucks to be you.. They should have thought about that before getting someone pregnant while working at Micky D's.
Healthcare is not a RIGHT.. It is a priviledge much like driving is.. You don't have a RIGHT to drive and you don't have a RIGHT to Free Healthcare.. As long as someone else has to pay for it.. it is not a RIGHT.. it is WELFARE and just another hand out to the entitlement crowd..

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and to make life better for all of us U.S. Citizens

That's another component of the debate. Is it reserved only for US citizens? This whole thing touches the issue on how we control illegal immigrants.

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Definitely limited in scope to what is needed to keep the society functioning and wholesome, with a big emphasis on prevention and a large dose of compassion. Personally, I would like to see a major push to have organically grown mangoes made readily available to the carbonunit, for medicinal purposes.

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Definitely limited in scope

Will be there be some form of rationed care?

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That is already being done by the HMOs, PPOs, and all the other Os involved in health care at the moment. An example of rationing: I went to a psychiatrist and he told me that I was crazy; when I stated that I wanted a second opinion, he said that I was ugly too.

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A "hair" doctor told me the same thing.

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I belong to an Aetna HMO called "Open Choice" but I can see my Primary Care Physician or a Specialist when I want, as long as they are in the Aetna Network.