Funding still issue for 54W path bridge

Fri, 04/24/2009 - 3:56pm
By: John Munford

Stimulus money could come into play for long-delayed project

The long-awaited completion of the cart path bridge spanning the CSX railroad tracks on Ga. Highway 54 West in Peachtree City is continuing to slug its way through state government bureaucracy.

City officials were informed last week that the Georgia Department of Transportation, which has committed to a grant to finish the project, has not yet determined how it will be funded.

The DOT is considering using funds from the federal stimulus package, but may decide instead to use available DOT funds, officials said.

Meanwhile, the city is waiting on a few other items before DOT can issue its approval, including the right-of-way certification, re-certification of the environmental documentation and a few minor items, said Director of Developmental Services David Rast. Once those are complete, DOT is expected to approve the project, sending a contract to the City Council for approval before funding can be authorized, Rast said.

The bridge and the tunnel underneath the highway are in place, thanks to DOT including them as part of the highway widening project that was completed in August 2006. The project has remained incomplete since then, as there are no paths built to link the bridge and tunnel.

In December city staff reported that the city could ditch the grant process and build the approaches on its own for a cost of about $200,000. Under the grant program, however, the city is only on the hook for $50,000, staff reported at the time

It was also noted in December that without the grant it would take about 110 days to start construction but 220 days to do so with the grant funding.

Since then the bridge has remained unused because the paths have not yet been built to connect the bridge with the tunnel. Once complete, the system will allow path users to travel under and along Hwy. 54, linking the Best Buy shopping area with the Marketplace shopping center and The Avenue shopping center.

The bridge has gained the moniker of “bridge to nowhere” among city officials who are frustrated with the lack of progress on the project due to continual delays.

Part of the problem was that the bridge construction and the path approaches are considered two separate projects by the DOT, city officials have said previously. The path connection project grant comes from the Liveable Centers Initiative which encourages communities to design and build neighborhoods where residents can live, work and play.

At one point the pending path approach project was on hold for months as the city awaited a DOT permit certifying the path wouldn’t adversely affect air quality. The only vehicles allowed on the path system are electric powered and have no emissions. The path system’s other patrons — bikers, skaters, joggers and walkers — in some cases improve air quality by ditching their gas-powered autos for short trips that can be accomplished on the paths.

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Spear Road Guy's picture
Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Sat, 04/25/2009 - 11:44pm.

My gosh people! I could do the blasted path myself if I had the tools.

Nothing makes me think Mayor Logsdon is incompetent more than that stupid and expensive bridge just sitting there for 3 or 4 years.

How he kept from getting recalled is a mystery to me. Are there any leaders on the city council???

Vote Republican


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Submitted by Don Haddix on Mon, 04/27/2009 - 8:17pm.

This project was already derailed before Sturbaum or I came on Council.

The bridge was not installed at the approved height. How and why I do not do not know.

But once derailed, it became locked into State and Federal requirements being redone and reprocessed. Processes that can take 2 or more years to complete.

Add in the funding becoming questionable and it all was made worse.

Been a frustration for me from day one on Council. More so when no way to make it move forward more quickly.

EPA, GDOT and some others do not move quickly. And often are the source of many frustrations, for all levels of government.

$200,000 is too much to spend just to speed it up in good times. In these times it would be irresponsible.

But it will be spent if that is ultimately what it takes to finish it.

Don Haddix
PTC Councilman
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Submitted by Spyglass on Mon, 04/27/2009 - 9:11pm.

Why not just say that, instead of trying to deflect blame from you and your clone?

Oh yeah, I'm not so sure about the mug shot. Smiling

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Submitted by yellowjax1212 on Mon, 04/27/2009 - 8:54pm.

OK, this project has been tied to the DOT since the beginning (in the planning stage for years). How is it possible that this is being blamed on Harold Logsdon? You people amaze me.
And thanks Don for clearing up the situation by letting us know that the project was already screwed up before you and Doug took office. Wouldn't want anything negative to rub off on you now would we.


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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Mon, 04/27/2009 - 10:18pm.

Sure Councilmen Haddix and Sturbaum get less of the blame since they’ve only been around a couple of years.

I do lay the blame on the mayor’s shoulders. He told us he was going to be a leader and heal the relationship with the state transportation people. Liar!!!

I’m not the only one wondering how this city council got so helpless. Haddix and Sturbaum do end up on the losing side of a lot of 3-2 votes, so I can’t say they haven’t tried. But the mayor is useless and the butt kissing from Boone and Plunkett just make things worse.

The only way to get the mayor moving is to turn in a plan for a big box store or serve 1/2 price drinks.

Vote Republican


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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Tue, 04/28/2009 - 4:38am.

That would be Brown. DOT would not meet with him or take his calls after his arrogant and immature behavior in the first meetings - or so I am told by an ex-city employee who was at all the meetings.

You have seen examples of how vindictive DOT can be against people who oppose them unreasonably, haven't you? The golf cart guy in the hole across from Best Buy is a classic example. There are many others.

Logsdon has mended fences but there is more to be done.


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Submitted by Don Haddix on Mon, 04/27/2009 - 9:12pm.

Why should anyone want to be blamed for something they are not responsible for? That would not make sense.

Nor did you see me blame Mayor Logsdon in this matter either.

Don Haddix
PTC Councilman
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Submitted by yellowjax1212 on Tue, 04/28/2009 - 9:18am.

No, Don you didn't outright blam the Mayor and the other council members but you only attempted to deflect blame away from yourself and Doug.
How hard would it have been to be totally honest and said the bridge problems began long before any of the current council members were seated instead of just recusing yourself and your second vote?


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Submitted by DarkMadam on Mon, 04/27/2009 - 6:33pm.

But I am hoping the election in November will yield a few good ones!


Submitted by ATLtoPTC on Sat, 04/25/2009 - 1:55pm.

This project has now gone way beyond ridiculous. I can't even fathom how many levels of incompetence have resulted in this 3 year delay. I am disgusted.

Submitted by Spyglass on Fri, 04/24/2009 - 5:14pm.

duplicate

Just look what they've done to I-85 south right before the Hwy 74 exit. For some unknown reason, they have barrels in far right hand lane, that is an EXIT lane going to Hwy 74. The part they have closed IN WAY EFFECTS the work going on south of Exit 61.

Submitted by Spyglass on Fri, 04/24/2009 - 5:14pm.

as stated so well below.

Just look what they've done to I-85 south right before the Hwy 74 exit. For some unknown reason, they have barrels in far right hand lane, that is an EXIT lane going to Hwy 74. The part they have closed IN WAY EFFECTS the work going on south of Exit 61.

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Fri, 04/24/2009 - 11:06pm.

I can't figure it out. Why are the barrels there? There is no crew, no work being performed. Nothing.


Submitted by PTCGOIL on Fri, 04/24/2009 - 5:07pm.

THIS MORNING AT 10:17AM, HAD A BUCKET TRUCK #4200518 PARKED ON THE CART PATH NEXT TO THE CONTROLLER BOX? The same one that had two DOPES (yes, it is a common GDOT job classification-look it up-it pays about 80K a year with bennies)standing at the open controller box shooting the s**&% with each other. The fatter one turning toward the traffic to spit repeatedly on the ground every time he finished a sentence was the more attractive of the two. (I'm sure had the most seniority, also.) As I sat at the light watching this waste of money (how long do we sit at that light? I was the first one in line), not ONCE did either even look into the controller box, much less do any work. Since I had a few minutes to spare I went east on Hwy 54 and did a turnaround into the (now closed) Kroger pkg. lot and came back around onto 54 west to turn left onto Peachtree Pkwy again. Lucky me, the first in that line, too. The conversation was still going strong and more spit was coming out-very attractive, I must say. Then, the skinnier one stuck his head int the box and hit a switch and the lights went nuts and then went off and then we lucky ones in the left turn lanes on Hwy 54 got to sit thru a whole new cycle of red lights for the turn lane. More time to observe the do-nothing duo. Didn't bother me, but 3 cars in the eastbound left turn lane got po'd and laid rubber getting out of those lanes and going eastbound instead of waiting. I did a u-turn across from Ruby Tuesdays on the Pkwy cutout and came back to them two marvels of GDOT workmanship in the right turn lane. I called the skinnier one over to the car and asked him what his big mission was to be accomplished there before the weekend had come and gone. He had to repeat my question back to me since it was difficult for him to grasp having to explain verbally what on God's green earth he had been so technically trained to do. The answer--to replace the controller in the box. As I drove on my merry way, the time was now 10:29am. How long they had been eating up dead time on the clock before I got there, who knows. Boy, the old adage, how many GDOT employees does it take to screw in a lightbulb was right in front of me there....
Yeah, lets take another 6 months to make the HUGE decision as to whether to use stimulus money or GDOT funds to finish this now going on 3 year old unfinished eyesore. Be sure to promote these two DOPES a couple more times and give them cost of living raises while you're at it. Let's wait for pigs to fly, too.

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