Yikes, "Clicks" on the phone!! I would contact Ross Perot. He is experienced in matters such as this.
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"Oh, ya'll think Obama is a communist? Well, let's see, Bush sanctioned torture, opened up Gulag Guantanamo, arrested an Oregon citizen with no warrant, no charges, and no access to a lawyer, authorized spying on our emails, phone calls, and bank records, banned non-party members from all his speeches, banned protesters from lining his motorcade routes (pubic property by the way), simply announced he wouldn't obey some of our legislatures laws, ordered Federal Judges to open investigations on Democratic Politicians during elections (fired those who refused), etc., etc., etc."
Sounds like another U.S. President - A. Lincoln, did the same things to his countrymen and doggone it he was a republican to.

Obama's weapon of Choice!

and the Constitution legalized slavery and banned women from voting. But that was then, this is now.
Accountability. Accept it and credibility will be more forthcoming. Deny it and you will be recognized for your hypocrisy and lack of principles. Blaming others for your own failings is simply pathetic.

Strangely, the next day, my wife started hearing "clicks" everytime she went on her cell phone. That's right, it seems plausible that Homeland Security was now monitoring my cell phone and, no doubt, my emails.

See how much you actually have in common with Darth? I jest with Birdman but do you really think this was the creation of Bush? I remember long before Bush came in that discussions on privacy intrusion were already underway during the Clinton regime and in Democrat circles. What troubles me as a former Republican is that it was my guys than enacted the American Citizen Monitoring Act. Now your guys pandered to those that opposed it and gave it good lip service for political purposes. But you don't see them reversing it do you? Hell no... they are going to build upon what Bush enabled.

So, again, welcome to the list. It was you and your Repubs. who paved the way for it. Now WE have ahold of it!
Be careful what you ask for, you may get it. More importantly, we Democrats may get it!

This is where I'll part ways with you BirdBrain. Your Democrats / Republicans (no damned difference) are all in this together more than your feeble partisan mind can ever imagine. And yes... Stalin would be proud. His prophesies are indeed coming true. And you are one of the enabling sheep.

Question... if you Democrats are so opposed to all the "communism" crap then why in the hell isn't our president and you Democrat majority tripping overt themselves to reverse those "communist" doctrines and policies implemented under the Bush regime" HUH??? Because they love them and they desired them for many years and Bush handed it to them along with opportunity to politically capitalize on the outrage 'we the people' had toward this shift to socialism / communism. Your people have the power BirdDude... why aren't they using it re-establish our liberties? Funny.... Obama can reverse presidential orders on abortion, stem cell research, and many other issues. But he refuses to get the government out of my computer, my business, and my life. And now.... I'm classified by his own words as an extremist. Lil ole flunky butt Git....

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Actually you missed the "tongue in cheek" part of my post. You need to stop taking everything everyone on this blog says so seriously.
I really didn't think I was being eavesdropped on by HS, but it was pretty coincidental.

But the problem that I have with what you say is that conservatives controlled the government from Jan. 20, 2001 until Jan. 2007. Even then conservatives had veto power until Jan. 20, 2009. So why did this happen? Why didn't the omniscient Repubs. come out of the woodwork to control the budget, reduce govt., get out of our personal lives, etc.? Suddenly they find themselves on the outside and are miraculously finding their conservative center! But it's too late. The hypocrisy is too great and the damage done.

Now, in keeping with the theme of the last 8 years, fear is their product. Fear terrorism, fear socialism, fear communism, fear taxes, fear anything as long as you fear "them." And who are "them," well, obviously the Dems. As the Buffalo Springfield said "paranoia runs deep, into your hearts it will creep, it starts when your always afraid."

It seems that the word "communism" is being bantered about so much by Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh. But what is "communism?" Well, it's a political system. Some of it's workings include:

Suspension of Habeus Corpus,
Control of the media (like not showing flag draped coffins returning)
Political prisons
Purges (like purging Federal Judges to influence elections)
Managing crowds at political speeches
Preventing legal protest
etc.

Now, I know you think Obama is doing these things, but they are actually the practice and policies of the Bush Administration.

Obama has reversed ALL of these!

Now, we were spun into economic hard times by the policies (or lack of) of a totally Repub. Govt. Yet for some reason you and too many still find it totally the fault of the Dems. Simply NOT true (not that they didn't contribute).

I do not "follow blindly." I research my facts from a variety of sources (yes I even watch Fox News). During the last 8 years NOT ONE SINGLE REPUBLICAN mentioned "balanced budget," "fiscal responsibility," etc. During that time we doubled the deficit, started an unnecessary war, severed all diplomatic efforts to solve issues with our enemies, allowed Iran to emerge as a major and nuclear power, allowed North Korea to emerge as a nuclear power, alienated too many allies, sanctioned torture, arrested people with no charges filed nor rights to see council, etc. And where was Rush, Sean, Ann, Glenn? Well, they were busy worrying about Gay Marriage, or Rev. Wright, or simply just blaming "liberals."

Anyway, I ramble. As to your comments "he refuses to get the government out of my computer, my business, and my life. And now.... I'm classified by his own words as an extremist." Didn't seem to bother you when Bush was in your computer, business, life. Don't remember you calling "foul" as Bob Barr did (but I may have missed your posts). Why now? Oh, Obama has called for the closing of Gulag Gitmo, repeal of the Patriot Act, ending of torture. So he is actually "reversing" those things. But it is Rush, Sean, Ann, and Glenn who are attacking him for doing exactly what you want him to do!

By the way, exactly why were you classified an "extremist"? But don't despair, I was classified as a "terrorist lover," "Saddam lover," "communist" (that one by you), and, I suppose by extension, an "extremest." But I'm still here. I expect that you will not feel any retribution for whatever "extremest" activity you engage in.

You know what, just 'cause Rush or Sean say it, doesn't make it so.

Actually you missed the "tongue in cheek" part of my post.

Actually I didn't as your references of "clicking" on you phone as if you were being monitored caused me to roll my eyes a bit. Regarding the clicking.... this isn't the days of Dragnet when you would hear clicking when they connected the alligator clips to the wires leading to your house. Rest assured you would never know you were being listened into. So tongue in cheek or not I realistically dismissed that part of your blog. Tell me though... did you approve of Joe The Plumbers life being monitored while the government sifted through his life and records after he was no longer in the presence of your messiah?

But the problem that I have with what you say is that conservatives controlled the government from Jan. 20, 2001 until Jan. 2007.

No Bird...Conservatives didn't control the gumament... Republicans did. And they failed to show leadership in halting the erosion of our civil liberties and just like the Democrats.... gave it's opposition lip service while allowing the government to intrude into our lives.

Why didn't the omniscient Repubs. come out of the woodwork to control the budget, reduce govt., get out of our personal lives, etc.?

Why do you think I am a former Republican???? I have said this one or more times: The ONLY reason I may vote for a Republican in an election now is that their leadership embraces socialism at a much slower pace than that of the Democrats. And with that said.... there were many blank spots left unchecked on the the last ballot I cast as I refused to vote for many of the Republican clowns the GOP propped up on the ballot. You continue on with lumping me in as a Republican and pointing your scrawny bird finger at me while shouting Republican all you want..... Your demagoguery lasts about as long as those fart smells that linger about after you open your mouth while spouting such nonsense.

Now, in keeping with the theme of the last 8 years, fear is their product.

Don't give me that crap. How do you think Obama got elected silly!

It seems that the word "communism" is being bantered about so much by Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh. But what is "communism?" Well, it's a political system. Some of it's workings include:

Suspension of Habeus Corpus,
Control of the media (like not showing flag draped coffins returning)
Political prisons
Purges (like purging Federal Judges to influence elections)
Managing crowds at political speeches
Preventing legal protest
etc.

A SUMMARY OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO

1. Abolition of private property.

2. Heavy progressive income tax.

3. Abolition to all rights of
inheritance.

4. Confiscation of property of all
emigrants and rebels.

5. A Central bank.

6. Government control of Communications
and Transportation.

7. Government ownership of factories and
agriculture.

8. Government control of labor.

9. Corporate farms, regional planning.

10. Government control of Education.

Hope this helps dude. None of this is new to me and as evidenced HERE in October of 1996 I think you will find that I have always had a reality grasp on what communism and socialism consists of. Now tell me which tenets Obama fights to oppose and I'll freely admit to you the many that Bush enabled. Wanna go over the list together dude?

Now, I know you think Obama is doing these things, but they are actually the practice and policies of the Bush Administration.

Obama has reversed ALL of these!

I am NOT denying Bush's role in enabling socialism in any way, shape or form. But If you can sit there and tell me that Obama has "reversed ALL of these then you Sir are a damned liar. Read the Summary Of The Communist Manifesto and point by point prove to me where Obama opposes or reverses these communist / socialistic tenets. Do it Birdman. Prove it or shut it already. You can't and you know it. And deep down you either embrace these ideas or are too stupid or in denial of the facts because of your pure partisan hatred of the man named George Bush and his wishy washy party and supporters.

Now, we were spun into economic hard times by the policies (or lack of) of a totally Repub. Govt. Yet for some reason you and too many still find it totally the fault of the Dems. Simply NOT true (not that they didn't contribute).

Full of crap again. There was no "Totally Republican Govt." for the last 2 years of Bush's reign. And even with a majority GOP house and senate many economic bills were passed as compromise measures for your librul buddies. Why the hell the GOP didn't lead rather compromise is beyond me. Hence my jumping off that sinking ship.

Not that I do not attribute our economic demise as being "totally the fault of the Democrats" as you state. I have said it once and I will say it again... both parties bare equal responsibility in our economic demise.

At last you speak words of truth and honesty when you say "not that they (Democrats) didn't contribute". Perhaps there is hope for you yet my scaly legged partisan hack.

I do not "follow blindly." I research my facts from a variety of sources (yes I even watch Fox News). During the last 8 years NOT ONE SINGLE REPUBLICAN mentioned "balanced budget," "fiscal responsibility,"

Bull crap BirdBoy. I can name you several who are staunch defenders of fiscal responsibility and I can name you many who give it lip service because it wins elections for them. Many who originate right here from Georgia such as Isackson, Chambliss, and the Georgia Pork King him self.... Jack Kingston. Dude..you don't research the facts.... you listen to the news and to what you are spoon fed daily. So don't pee on my feet and try to tell me it's raining outside. Sheesh....

During that time we doubled the deficit,

And Obama's wreckless waste of monetary resources has reduced this in what way?

started an unnecessary war,

Which was backed by many Democrats and several of the clowns on his current staff.

severed all diplomatic efforts to solve issues with our enemies,

We should negotiate with our enemies much like our current DA has negotiated with child predators before. Yup.. a few photo ops with Chavez and Ortega...what a gift to them. Some nice propaganda photo ops. LOL!

allowed Iran to emerge as a major and nuclear power,

Yup... those "diplomatic efforts" really worked here didn't they? (eyes rolling)

allowed North Korea to emerge as a nuclear power,

Oh really now? And which president gave them the technology to develop this nuclear power? And since war isn't a solution for you BirdDude what is you answer? Offer up more technological secrets?

alienated too many allies,

Ohhhh.... did it ever occur to you that their weakness, stubbornness and political agendas might have contributed to this "alienation"? Perhaps because we refuse to model their failed policies?

sanctioned torture,

Yeah whatever... blah, blah, blah. Next time I vote we take no prisoners.

arrested people with no charges filed nor rights to see council, etc.

You call them people. I call them Islamo Fascist Murdering Terrorists that need to be put to sleep like the rabid killer bulldogs they are. Sound harsh? So be it.

And where was Rush, Sean, Ann, Glenn? Well, they were busy worrying about Gay Marriage, or Rev. Wright, or simply just blaming "liberals."

OMG YES...YOU HIT RIGHT ON THE HEAD.... Just like your side was doing the exact same thing. And while our politicians and media had us going at each other's throats over these issues our Ivy Leagued Privileged Class was raping and pillaging the economic strength of this country to benefit themselves and to secure even more power.

I was classified as a "terrorist lover," "Saddam lover," "communist" (that one by you),

Really now... Did I? Show me the post. I'm not denying it. Show me the post BirdDude so we can examine the context of where I called you a "communist". Let's clear this one up. If an apology is in order I will most certainly and humbly provide you with one. If not.... my response is a simple 'bite me'.

), and, I suppose by extension, an "extremest." But I'm still here. I expect that you will not feel any retribution for whatever "extremest" activity you engage in.

Yeah, yeah.... whatever....

You know what, just 'cause Rush or Sean say it, doesn't make it so.

You know what? I agree. And dittos with Obama and CNN.

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think Obama is a communist, he has told us so himself on many occasions. He was still elected, in part because many voters were convinced that all you have said above about W. is the unmitigated truth AND that the conservatives in this country are all mindless robots who will behave exactly as leftist politicians and the media characterize them.
The other overriding reason he was elected is so much simpler and more ominous, however, and I think it has little to do with our beleaguered former president.
At the risk of sounding insulting, I'd say YOU, Birdman, epitomize the new Obama electorate. It's apparent that you believe everything you are told, so long as it satisfies the underlying criteria that your idealism demands.
Now, you aren't alone in this, and you are a part of a bipartisan movement, "The Open Mouth/Brain Dead movement".
The sad fact that no conservative, myself included, wants to acknowledge is that the majority of the voting public wants a move toward socialism in this country. Even I have to admit that the promises that the government will take money from those who succeed and actually have extra money to give the rest of us a safety net... Well, it's an alluring concept, especially when those same elected officials have done everything in their considerable power to ensure that we will need that safety net.
The majority of the voting public doesn't want to take the time to study history and come to the conclusion that the elected officials are completely full of crap and the government doesn't do anything efficiently or cost effectively. This is the, "Gimmie" generation. Promise them the world, and if you can effectively lie to the American people, the world is your oyster.
Unlike some of my fellow conservatives, I don't try to say that Bush didn't lie. Of course he did, but I'd say that most folks like yourself need a serious reality check.
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"All I ask for is a little common sense. Apparently that's too much to ask for."

Really? Did you consider Bush a "communist" for his policies that suspended rights, political purges of Federal Attorneys, setting up of a political prison in Gitmo, unwarranted spying on citizens email, phones, bank records? Sanctioning of torture? Managing only "friendly" crowds at speeches and rallies? Banning of legal protests of presidential motorcades?

Exactly when and how did Obama "tell us" he is a communist? Socialist maybe. But your fear of "socialism" is due to a lack of info. It is being used to strike fear in your hearts, and it is working. In reality what we are seeing is more control of the economy being exerted, something many of us think would have prevented our credit meltdown. Propping up the financial institutions, painful as it may be, will keep credit lines available to business. Without this short term credit, many businesses wouldn't be able to buy inventory, make payrolls, etc. That would not help our current economic situation.
Now, National Health is socialistic. As is Social Security. Those are subjects for a very long discussion. Will you refuse your Social Security on the principle that it is "socialism?" I somehow doubt it.

"Gimmie generation" of course. But it was a "gimmie" attitude that created Bernie Maddoff, AIG, Citibank, etc. I didn't see you complaining the last 8 years when the "gimmie" people were CEO's, Oil Companies, Haliburton.

"Reality Check?" I suggest the conservatives need a "reality check." It is the abysmally failed policies of the last 8 years that brought us to this. If the leaders of the Republican Party would acknowledge their part in this instead of being simply a "blame the Dems" and say "no" to everything group, they would have a chance. But since they gleefully supported the last 8 years they have lost any hope of credibility. Until they see that they will fail.

One last thought, if Obama is successful then you will see even more Repubs out of Congress. They would be well advised to work WITH the President instead of only AGAINST him.

But I do agree, "a little common sense. Apparently that's too much to ask for."

Could start by you showing a little more "common sense" and layoff the insults and try some open and respectful dialog.

After listening to the guy I could understand why they wanted to kick his tail around like that. He is no doubt an obnoxious smart a$$. Assuming he is telling the truth then in no way are those law enforcement officials justified in that sort of abuse. I would have resisted the search too but I wouldn't have gotten mouthy with them. I can see me zapped and slammed too in the future. It's coming.

And the scary thing is that there are a lot of law enforcement individuals that would have no problem at all escalating their aggressiveness towards people who stand up for their rights.

We have an extreme and I believe irreversible divide taking place in this country right now that is going to lead to perhaps some very violent times regrettably. God I hope not. Even the tones of blogs across the country support this increasingly uncivil divide. It's not going to be long before this all starts breaking loose. I suppose the sides have have chosen by each of us. We know Hack is ready to saddle-up and back our increasingly oppressive government. I know others hear that are ready to defend their rights along with the country and government that is rapidly slipping out of existence. Quite frankly.... it's getting very scary. Americans have been pitted against each other in a horrendous way. I guess freedom truly does come at an expensive cost and the individual responsibility it takes to support it is rapidly dying off too.

Well... I certainly expect to see more violent outcomes from our government toward each of us. Dang it... to lay down let them walk over my rights and freedoms or do I stand up too? I never thought I'd ever face this question in this country. Especially in my life time. I've already told my daughters they would never experience the libert or opportunities that I have as the live out their lives. And looking back.... I am convinced I'm right on this.

Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death! Yikes... hope my house doesn't get straffed by a Warthog.

PS. I truly hope this guy doesn't become some sort of cult hero after all this is said and done. Although... what if we don't speak up?

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The U.S. Govt. has several of these and they all work for the current President.

or did this guy strike them as fitting the Timothy McVeigh sort of profile?

There's something to be said about being fat, over fifty, and bald. I'm harmless.
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(both right and left wing extremists) was that the right wing extremist and law abiding citizens share some of the same beliefs. Also, it appears that only the left wing extremists are capable of cyber attacks. (Does that make the left smarter than the right?) The other thingy I found interesting was this footnote in both reports:

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Funny, I just finished reading the "Right Wing" report before checking back in here.

I guess I see why there is a flap over it, but, quite frankly, I think it rings true. My own limited perception is that there is a significant number of people off to the right who are disgruntled and entertaining revolutionary ideas. Even here, the "One World Govt" stuff has been cropping up. And I have actually heard people talking about the possibility of "armed resistance." Texans are talking secession and Chuck Norris reports--and apparently endorses--right-wing nutjob groups.

Like Git, I could easily fit much of the profile when the list of characteristics is pulled from the context of the document. That extracted list almost makes it sounds as though the DHS, and, by implication, the administration, favors moving towards a One World Govt, etc. (it even uses the phrase--ominous to paranoid ears--"New World Order" more than once), and so those right-wingers who are opposed must be put down. But the point of the document is that there are wild conspiracy theories and not a little paranoia spreading about involving such things (indeed there are!), and these may incite some fanatics to violence.

It is in fact true that abortion remains a hot button issue that actually has, in the past, driven some to commit acts of terror. This is why it is mentioned. For now, I have no fear that my pro-life position will invite close governmental scrutiny or worse. I am, at present, holding my weapon of choice for this culture war, and I will give up my laptop when they pry my cold, dead fingers from the keyboard.

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to this administrations report and you know it.. The report you site mostly covers cyber attacks from ELF and ALF.. DHS report covers almost everyone.. including the Military.. Don't try to soft sell this one.. you can't.. it speaks for itself.. and BUSH DID NOT WRITE IT.. This was concocted under Obama's watch.. so stop blaming Bush.. Obama is doing good enough for everyone on that front..

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..

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It was the fourth report in a series and it started under Bush. So what? It's obvious there's a bunch of right-wing kooks out there, secessionists, survivalist, neo-nazis, FEMA concentration camp believers, Obama birth certificate weirdos, tea baggers, etc. There's also the talk radio industry stoking their paranoid fantasies. Denying it doesn't make it less true.

Regardless of under whose watch it began, the Obama people released it. So be it. I don't have a problem with it.

Was supposed to go here. Hmmmmm... a blonde moment.

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