‘Road to nowhere’?

Tue, 03/24/2009 - 4:14pm
By: Ben Nelms

Affected landowners question need for West Fayetteville Bypass

The West Fayetteville Bypass is moving closer to reality, as county officials determine the final alignment and hold meetings with the public and permitting agencies.

Not everybody is happy about the prospect of Phase 2 of the bypass project. Some Fayette residents face losing portions of their property to what one called the “road to nowhere.”

Ron Mathis bought his 2.5-acre homesite on Lee’s Mill Road in 1983. Potentially one-third of his property would be affected if one of the proposed Phase 2 routes comes his way. If the road does go onto his property, it would be within 15 feet of his garage and within 60 feet of his house, Mathis said.

“I just don’t believe it’s a necessary project that’s been in the process for 20 years. And they’ve kept the public ill-informed. It’s a road to nowhere. I’ve told the state highway department that. I don’t know whether to believe anything they say because they say something different every time I talk to them,” Mathis said. ”I told the state highway department I wasn’t interested in selling my property. But they said, ‘The government knows what’s best for you sometimes.’”

Talk about building a bypass on the east and west sides of Fayetteville originated in the 1980s and continued into the 1990s. A number of public meetings were held and the issue was incorporated into the 20-year comprehensive plan and land use plans.

The project gained impetus in 2003 and a Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax (SPLOST) to fund the bypasses and other transportation projects was passed by voters in 2005. Collections will continue until April 2010.

Fayette County Public Works Director Phil Mallon said there was a need for more north/south connectivity and a need to diminish traffic and increase safety in Fayetteville.

Mallon referenced the 2002 travel demand modeling technique report that used Atlanta Regional Commission’s travel demand model to run two future scenarios: year 2025 with improvements currently contained in the adopted regional transportation plan (RTP) and a no-build scenario for 2025.

Based on five tools used to recommend and prioritize projects, figures of anticipated volume to capacity ratios and average daily traffic county showed improvement (less congestion) on most roads with full implementation of the 2003 plan, Mallon said, adding that it would be misleading to attribute the improvements solely to the West Fayetteville Bypass since all the proposed projects were modeled together.

Once all three phases of the west bypass are completed, the results showed the 2025 volume to capacity ratios at 15-60 percent.

Mallon said the specific number of vehicles traveling the bypass will be a function of factors such as the number of lanes and turn lanes and the posted speed limit.

Also of note is Fayette’s projected population growth during the next two decades. Most current projections for 2030 envisions a population 150,000 compared to a 2008 Census estimate of 106,465.

Ginga Smithfield lives on Mallard Creek Road just off Lee’s Mill Road. She and her husband Steve have lived at the residence for nearly 25 years. She said they have a proliferation of wildlife on the property, from turkeys and skunks to deer that eat from her apple trees.

“The entire time we’ve been held hostage by the county to put up the West Fayetteville Bypass through my property. It will come through my property and take up to five of the 20 acres,” she said Saturday morning, as she and several neighbors stood on her driveway talking. “It touches my property with all three phases they have mapped out. We originally bought here so my family could be together so we could take care of each other. Everyone who lives on our little road is family, and if they cut through here, they will split this little neighborhood up, which is all family.”

What has been as many as four possible routes in the Lee’s Mill Road area has now been reduced to two, Mallon said Monday, though those two proposed routes are still not definitive.

Phase 2 of the bypass runs generally north/south from the Sandy Creek Road area to Ga. Highway 92 at Westbridge Road, positioned between Hwy. 92 and Lee’s Lake Road.

In total, the 4-to-4.5-mile Phase 2 portion of the bypass carries a $11.5 million price tag that includes crossing the Whitewater Creek wetlands area.

Regardless of which of the two current options is used, construction of the roadway will impact several homes, Mallon said.

“The routes have been modified many times,” Mallon said, noting the re-working of routes after concerns were presented by various property owners. “Once we have the revised staff alignment, we’ll present it to the public and receive comments.”

Once the final alignment is determined and public meetings are held, the county can begin pre-consultation meetings with U.S. Army Corps of Engineers over wetlands issues.

And though timelines are fluid, county Public Works officials said Monday that the alignment should be set to meet with the Corps of Engineers in late spring to begin determining the required wetlands permits.

“We will get all the required permits (such as those from the Corps of Engineers and Georgia Department of Transportation, erosion and sediment control and national pollution discharge and elimination system, or NPDES) and we’ll have a pre-consultation meeting with the Corps of Engineers, but we need the alignment first,” Mallon said.

“Then the engineers will do the design work and prepare the right-of-way plats. Then we’ll know what permits are needed. We may not have all the permits in hand but we will know from the (permit) meetings that we can get them. We won’t acquire land if there’s an unknown pertaining to the permits. We’re not going to spend money that will sidetrack the project,” Mallon said.

Another Lee’s Mill Road resident to potentially be affected is Doug Burcher, whose property has been in his family for four generations. For Burcher, one of his concerns, both conceptually and realistically, is understanding what problems the bypass will solve.

“My great grandmother lived on the property. So it was kind of dear to me. I hate to see it come through and ruin the area that belonged to her,” Burcher said. “I do not understand where the traffic is coming from that will be using this West Fayetteville bypass. Where it comes in at (Hwy.) 54, you’ve got to go through Fayetteville or Peachtree City just to get to it, so where is the bypass? The second thing is, where it comes in to (Hwy.) 92, where does the traffic go from there? If you turn left on 92, you’ve got a problem with 92. If you continue on across Westbridge, you’ve got a problem with the hairpin curve and you also have to go onto (Ga. Highway) 138, which creates a problem. So I don’t see where it solves anything.”

Smithfield’s husband Steve was one of the group of potentially affected residents who had gathered to discuss the impending roadway project. Two of the possible four options they had been told about in previous months would chop his 20-acre property into two parts. Twenty acres or not, his front porch would be far less than 100 feet from from the right-of-way.

“We’ve lived here since 1985. The bypass, as it was originally listed is going to take between three and four acres of our property, with a 120-foot swath. What we’re going to end up with here is useless land remnants that we can’t do much with. I looked at the county records and couldn’t find any rationale for putting a bypass in this area, as to where the traffic is going and what the bypass would do in terms of relieving the traffic,” he said. “I’m hoping the project won’t go through because of all the wetlands that have to be crossed. If there was a need for traffic relief I would have a different outlook.”

Donald Fowler does not have property in the area, but he is concerned about the bypass process and the idea of taking personal property. He has lived near Sandy Creek Road since 1972.

“Even though the county is not proposing to get any of my property now, I don’t like the idea that they can just come out and condemn someone’s property for no apparent reason. They say they’re going to put a road in, but they don’t have the permits yet to do this,” Fowler said. “This whole bypass, I think, was presented to the voters wrong. They saw on the SPLOST that the bypass was to be put around Fayetteville and I don’t understand how you can call this a bypass. Sure we need some traffic elimination around Fayetteville, but if the county can’t justify that this is going to take five cars or 5,000 cars out of Fayetteville, if we spend this kind of money and only let 10 or 50 people bypass Fayetteville, then we’ve wasted this tax money that we could spend on other things.”

Jeff and Sharri Green have lived at the corner of Lee’s Mill and Mallard Creek since August 2008. About a month after the couple moved in, the previous owner brought them a letter from the county on the possibility of cutting off a corner of their yard.

“We did our due diligence before we moved here. We looked in a lot of areas before moving and nothing about the bypass came up,” Sharri Green said. “Even some of our neighbors who have lived here for 20 years didn’t know about it until they found out from us.”

The letter brought by the previous owner indicated that property owners would be contacted on issues pertaining to the bypass, Green said. But that communication has not been forthcoming, she said. From the September meeting and one in November until today there has been no communication from the county, including responses to emails she sent.

“I never heard about any of the forums or open meetings, and this runs through our yard. We’ll be looking out our front window looking at the cars go by,” Green said. “I asked (county representatives) if there was any data or philosophy behind the path of this road, because we might be able to swallow it better if it goes through our front yard if we can say it’s going to be safer, if there is some justification that makes sense.”

Jeff Green said they would hate to lose everything they moved here to gain in Fayette County. Sitting at her kitchen table Saturday morning, his wife reiterated that while they do not want to see the bypass go through their yard, the idea would be more palatable if doing so would benefit the community. But nobody from the county can tell us, she said.

Weighing in on the bypass topic, the taking of private property for the project and its impact on Whitewater Creek wetlands is retired biologist and community activist Dennis Chase.

“A group of citizens, soon to be faced with forced sale of some or all of their property, recently asked for legal advice regarding what they could do to prevent the county from taking what belongs to them. The answer they received is that there is very little protection when road right-of-way is being sought,” Chase said in a recent letter to The Citizen.

“Very soon, Fayette County is going to use many of those SPLOST tax dollars to complete the engineering design for this project and when approved by the commissioners, they will direct the legal branch of the county to activate condemnation proceedings against a group of citizens for a strip of land 120 to 150 feet wide and perhaps six miles long for the bypass,” Chase wrote.

”A large group of property owners will open their mail one day and find that Fayette County now owns part of their property. Shortly after that, the county contractors could enter into front or back yards and clear all those nasty trees that are in the way. Much of this can be done without any approvals from anyone because it uses local tax dollars. It will take at least $1.5 million just for the land, more when the engineering and legal expenses are included. When all of this is complete, they will take the next step toward construction,” Chase wrote.

Referencing a conversation with commissioners in September, Ginga Smithfield came away far from impressed.

“I spoke to them about my well. When they finish this thing, if they go through my front yard on Option A, my house will be on one side and my well will be on the other side. I spoke to one of the commissioners and asked him what would happen about my well. He said I would have to be real careful going across that road with my water bucket. I asked about the runoff from the road going into my well. He said, ‘Well, lady, you’ll have to be careful going across the road with that water bucket.’ That was Mr. Eric Maxwell, and Mr. Herb Frady was standing there next to him,” she said.

Contacted Tuesday about the conversation, Commissioner Eric Maxwell acknowledged that he had made the comment for which he had apologized immediately. He said his statement was inappropriate and that he was embarrassed for having said it. Beyond the conversation with commissioners and looking at the bypass from an overall perspective, Ginga said she is more adamant than ever to have her say and stand her ground.

“I am absolutely broken hearted and I intend to fight this until I can’t fight any longer. When they bring the bulldozers in here I’m afraid I’ll have to lay down in front of them and be arrested,” she said.

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Submitted by Voice of Fayett... on Sat, 03/28/2009 - 5:41am.

Commissioner Maxwell: Rare Insight in to Government's True Thoughts

When Commissioner Eric Maxwell made his snappy retort to Mrs. Smithfield, he gave a rare glimpse in to the true feelings of the Commission--- public be damned, we are going to benefit our own investments and those of our friends. With long time buddy, fellow investor commissioner and apparent potted plant Herb Frady standing by, Maxwell's suggestion to Mrs. Smithfield after the road divides her house from her water well that she should watch her step crossing the road with her bucket is rare. Seldom are politicians that honest, that crass and that insulting. Maxwell and his buddies will cash in and show the PTC crowd how they should have done TDK.


Submitted by mysteryman on Sat, 03/28/2009 - 7:52am.

Years ago a comment made like this would have resulted in immediate protest until he was removed from his chair....It is incredible how powerless and hopeless the general public have been made to feel...When are we going to wake up and demand representation by our elected officials. Next commision meeting had better be packed with people protesting in the streets. Lets make em have to have the entire Sheriffs office on hand for crowd control at the next meeting... Due to this infidel commisioner.....BLESS THE IGNORANT..

Submitted by ginga1414 on Thu, 03/26/2009 - 3:46pm.

I would like to express my heart felt thanks to Ben Nelms, Steve Brown, Dennis Chase and Michael Meyer for supporting the West Fayetteville Bypass Coalition in our effort to protect every homeowner in Fayette County.

Thomas Jefferson, our 3rd President, once said, “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”

For the past twenty-four years, my family has lived in our second Fayette County home. During that period, we have paid an exorbitant amount of property taxes. However, that wasn’t enough. For that entire time we have been held hostage by the County with the threat they would build the West Fayetteville Bypass and route it through our property. This past August, we received a notice that stated they would indeed route the WFB through our front yard.

Land developers will profit greatly from the seizure of our land and the construction of the WFB. When we tried to discuss that point with one of our County Officials, he said, “Those folks have a right to develop their land.” Well, Mr. County Official, private home- owners SHOULD have the right to live peacefully in the homes they worked for and they SHOULDN’T have to relinquish their property in order to provide land developers with free road access to the developers’ property.

It is a very simple concept, Mr. County Official. MORE requires MORE! The more houses you build, the more people and cars you attract to the area. The more people and cars you have, the more schools and roads are needed. The more schools and roads you build, the more SPLOST money you need to pay for them. The more SPLOST money you have, the more schools and roads you can build. The more schools and roads you build, the more private home- owners you drive out of the County. The more responsible tax paying citizens you drive out of the County, the more tax money you need. Plain and simple, Mr. County Official, you are in the process of destroying Fayette County. Fayette County is one of the smallest counties in the State and our boundaries can only accommodate so much growth before we implode.

A very few people have criticized me by saying that I am “standing in the way of progress.” Seizing the property of private homeowners is not progress. It is destruction. It is the destruction of our environment and the destruction of our rights as home owners and taxpaying citizens.

Granted, the County says they intend to COMPENSATE the homeowners for the property they will condemn through Eminent Domain. There isn’t enough money anywhere that can COMPENSATE for the destruction of homes, property, property values, peace, sleep and sanity.

This issue isn’t just about the Lee/Smithfield property. It is about Doug and Latrelle Burcher who are trying to preserve the property his great grandmother farmed on Lee’s Mill Road. It is about Sandra and Ron Mathis who are trying to protect the property for which they have worked. It is about Ellen and Michael Morley on Janice Drive who are trying to protect the registered wildlife habitat she has so lovingly built. It is about the young new homeowners like Jeff and Sharri Greene who were blindsided with their notice of the WFB three weeks after moving into their home. It is about every other homeowner along the route of the WFB. And, ultimately, it is about every homeowner in Fayette County because if the County can build a road through my front yard, they can build a road through your front yard.

During the past year, I have read numerous articles involving the WFB. All articles have been overwhelmingly negative. I have yet to read one that specifically illustrates how the general WFB layout can do anything to improve traffic. The WFB is perhaps the most despised public works project in the history of Fayette County. Nevertheless, it just goes to show how powerful county officials can bull their way through, regardless of public opinion. This is the reason nobody comes to the defense of the WFB…they don’t need to.

So, once again, THANK YOU, Dennis Chase, Michael Meyer, Ben Nelms, Steve Brown, Donald Fowler, Gordon and Gloria Furr of Tyrone, and the West Fayetteville Bypass Coalition for having the courage to fight for the protection of Fayette County’s future.

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Submitted by suggarfoot on Fri, 03/27/2009 - 6:38pm.

So says the councilman...but does he have a right to the taxpayers money to build the roads for the developers dreams?

This is wrong, it is so obvious our tax money is being spent, not for our betterment, but the developers.

Money HAS to be changing hands.
(and I don't mean from yours to mine)!


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Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 03/26/2009 - 4:47pm.

All those many years ago I was one of the trim carpenters who worked on your house and even took one of the puppies you found on your property when the temps were getting down to the teens that February, you have a magnificent piece of property and I hate what the county is doing to you. While there is little I can do to help you, I will remember this come election time and I guarantee you I will vote against any commissioner who voted for this travesty. Again you have my best wishes in your fight against our county commission.

I yam what I yam....Popeye


Submitted by ginga1414 on Thu, 03/26/2009 - 5:41pm.

Hutch, I remember you and I remember you taking the puppy. Thank you so much for your kind words. They mean more than you can imagine. I have some beautiful trim work because of you and some fond memories. Thank you for your support. I hope all is well with you and your family.

Submitted by mizmac on Thu, 03/26/2009 - 9:12am.

mizmac
Now look, Annie Ruth. Clogged traffic works just like a clogged artery. It will kill you if it's not fixed. They bypass your bad arteries to get the blood flowing and save your life. Face it, this area is never going to another Newnan or McDonough and we don't want that. However, the areas south of Fayetteville are ripe for residential development--and counties south of here are working hard to create job opportunities. A quicker way to get there from here would help. If a region takes time to sleep, one day it will wake up dead. Hope that's not where we are heading.

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Submitted by The Wedge on Thu, 03/26/2009 - 9:20am.

There are many localities that have good zoning, planning, and a desire to regulate development. The risk to building it and developing it in the absence of housing stressors, is that you make the entry to ownership and housing too easy. We develop an area, stack housing, make it new and desired, and people move in and dollars shift around. Older housing and commercial areas take a hit because the demand is not there. Then you are stuck with housing and commercial areas in need of updating, but not enough funds to do it effectively. Aberdeen and Braelinn need that updating before we push more commercial and residential space in other areas absent of demand.


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Submitted by Don Haddix on Thu, 03/26/2009 - 10:38am.

The Old Growth Model says you have to keep building new and getting bigger. That has proven to be a failed model.

Smart Growth focuses on growing wisely, which means redevelopment counts as growth. It also has found adding new can actually be negative in impact.

Redeveloping communities that are succeeding have found that moving from high density Urbanized planning to Village Concept lower density are actually experiencing increases in value and livability while generating more income to city budgets.

Big Boxes, Malls and large shopping centers are being rebuilt to Village centers, meaning mixes of a shopping center with family homes within walking distance.

Some areas are even converting such shopping areas into parks, rec and other forms of green space.

Smaller stores produce more income for a city, keeps ownership and incomes local and promotes community.

So, the question is what do we want to Fayette County to be?

I, for one, who moved here 22 years ago didn't move here to see it just become another high density extension of Atlanta.

That makes the question, for me, to be is the Bypass, which is actually a corridor, not a Bypass, one that will relieve traffic issues for the betterment of Fayette or a growth corridor that will make us more like Clayton or Coweta County?

When I took on DAPC, last year, I charged them with bringing in jobs, R&D, colleges, medical, technical, etc, to allow people to work and live here. Also, redeveloping area, such as Braelinn to prevent blight. None of which require heavy commuter traffic or massive growth in size.

Just trying to say it isn't a demand of grow in size and density or die. Communities across the nation are proving that is a false notion.

Which loops back the question of will the corridor prove to be a blessing or a bane?

Don Haddix
PTC Councilman
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Submitted by allegedteacher on Wed, 03/25/2009 - 5:06pm.

What a condescending jerk! He made an IMMEDIATE apology; gee, what a guy. More ammo for my OUST THE INCUMBENTS campaign.

Submitted by mizmac on Wed, 03/25/2009 - 12:36pm.

mizmac

Does anybody else remember when Georgia 400 and Camp Creek Parkway were "roads to nowhere"? Hundreds of thousands of jobs and the growth of both the north and west sides of Atlanta eventually came from those roads. Yeah--politicians and developers all made fortunes off those roads--but the commercial and residential development that came off them was vital to the overall growth of the metro area. Like it or Not.

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Submitted by The Wedge on Thu, 03/26/2009 - 11:58am.

This is not an area that I want to emulate. I don't want the business establishments, the crime, the traffic, the schools, etc. If we carve up a bunch of land, and put high density housing on it--trust me, it will be desireable to some and will fill up. Then we will have reaped what we've sown. crime and dislocation. This model exists in so many places with the same result, why do you want to replicate it here?


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Submitted by matt.barnes on Wed, 03/25/2009 - 12:43pm.

Do we want that kind of growth? Why would we want to become similar to camp creek and 400? I moved here because I wanted to live in a small town with no traffic. I like the bubble and I think there are a lot of other people who like the bubble as well.


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Submitted by grassroots on Wed, 03/25/2009 - 11:06am.

To me a bypass is for 18 wheelers and traffic that wants to go around the center of town and not through it to save time. Ask Mr. Mallon if 18 wheelers are going to be allowed down this 'bypass'. If not then call it what it is described in the title: The ROAD to nowhere. Good article Mr Nelms.


Submitted by Save Fayette on Wed, 03/25/2009 - 10:35am.

This is called progress. Do you want Fayette County to be like the North Side with all of there traffic problems. All of the highways in Fayette County go right down the middle of Fayetteville. This road will reduce the traffic problems that already are here in Fayette.
I made the same complaints when the county got some of my property on hwy 54 when it was made into a 4lane.
The one item that I have found missing from every bodies comments is how much the county is paying for the land they are taking. I know that they are paying top appraisals prices for the properties they need.
The road is needed and the East by pass is also needed. Face it people, Progress is here and just because the economy is down we do not need to stop building and put our head in the sand and not think it is going to happen. I would rather have a road in now that we the citizens can have some input as to the design and other aspects than to face the problems that the North Side has.

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Submitted by suggarfoot on Fri, 03/27/2009 - 6:45pm.

I take 74 ..every morning...and it is bottled from Parots funeral home to 85 ...EVERY MORNING!

If you put that by pass in, from Peachtree City to 74/85...will be a parking lot!

I've started taking Tyrone Rd to 85...to avoid the traffic!

It is horrible...but a lot of developers/ and who else? will make money. They will use our tax dollars ..TOTALY...for the developers to make more money.

Now who's side, or pockets could they possibly be in..EXCEPT.. the developers!


Submitted by Okie on Wed, 03/25/2009 - 6:38pm.

Maybe you got top dollar for your property on HWY 54, but we're on a dirt road. Anything we get will not even compare to what they will be doing to our piece of mind. They waited until the economy stinks and real estate prices are down. Personally I wish they would buy our house so we could move up to the mountains, but that's not going to happen. Maybe if they use the same appraiser they use at the Tax Assessors office..... Our taxes have gone up 15% every year until last year when they should have gone down. Did they go down, NO! Will they go down this year? Probably not. Will they go up when they pave the road, more than likely. I gave my input about the road at the first meeting. They just laughed. One commissioner assured us that it would never be a four lane, yeah right! Then why buy the land for it. I'm just totally disgusted with the whole thing. We sat on our front porch the other day looking at all the big trees that will be gone. It's depressing, very depressing.

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Submitted by cowtipn on Wed, 03/25/2009 - 3:36pm.

This is just a land grab by the county to build more shopping centers, banks, and traffic lights. All the current businesses along 85 will have to move or expand to the new road and pay more taxes to stay viable and it will be just as bad traffic-wise. Jimmy Carter Blvd was supposed to do the same thing for Gwinnett and now most sane people wouldn't go there during rush hour to save their grandmothers.

The only "traffic" they are concerned with is retail traffic. Hooray for eminent domain!!!


Submitted by Okie on Wed, 03/25/2009 - 8:27am.

I used to think that if you had property on a road with a number like Hwy 92 or something like that, you would one day loose part of your land to the road. Gee, who knew it would be a single lane dirt road in the country that would be taken for a By-pass! Personally I like pastures, trees, creeks, and wildlife. That's why we moved here. If we wanted nothing but subdivisions and more traffic, we would be on the north side!

Submitted by forteiii on Wed, 03/25/2009 - 8:16am.

Shouldn't we open our golf cart "bridge to nowhere" across the railroad tracks on Hwy 54 that's been ready for God only knows how long now, before we start on a new road to nowhere?

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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Wed, 03/25/2009 - 6:53am.

Let Horgan handle the comedy for the commission and you stick with building useless infrastructure. How anyone can think that this bypass is useful, needed, wanted or a good use of taxpayer money is beyond me.

This is a case of government doing something because it can. It has no value whatsoever. I almost believe the Steve Brown evil developer explanation since there is no other logical - or illogical - explanation.

Kill this off and focus on something else. Or let's get some single-issue candidates running for county commission. The single issue would be to kill the bypass.


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Submitted by black flag on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 8:58pm.

Eric, nice comments to a poor woman whose property is being taken from her against her will. You are a class act Sir.

I can't imagine how it would feel to have the county come along and help themselves to my property and then to be belittled by a county commissioner?!?!

How Un-American.....it's a tragedy when those in public office appear to have limited education, restraint or understanding.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 8:58pm.

advocated in his transportation plan.
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Submitted by tortugaocho on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 8:57pm.

Typical dopey Maxwell comment here. But then, this is the clown with the "I SUE" license plate. We elected him folks. While he and his buddy Matty have something cooking in east Coweta, it would not surprise me if the all of the commissioners have some vested interest in the development that will come from this road.


Submitted by mysteryman on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 9:04pm.

And be enlightened as to the names of the owners or et-al holding companies who stand to prosper form this endeavor, at the cost of the taxpayers. One of which is the B.O.E just to wet your appetite. Wars have been fought over less.....PEACE

Submitted by mysteryman on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 8:46pm.

Are we really to think that the county cares about the watershed, the only water the county cares about is their mouths watering over the windfall in new taxes to be reaped by all the new developements this road will enable, once the economy recovers, it will be a field day for the developers, and select few land barons who control the vast parcels conviently adjacent to the proposed routes. And to think a commisioner had the nerve to tell a resident, "BETTER BE CAREFUL CROSSING THE ROAD WITH YOUR WATER BUCKET." Excuse me why is this person still employed by the commision????? Anyone???? Next election you know what to do... And lets pettion to have a recall ballot on SPLOST and put an end to this monster.. VOTE NO CONFIDENCE next election if its not too late by then.. Recall the county commision send em packing.....PEACE P.s Unless they plan to build a bridge across the entire Whitewater watershed, there is no way they can conform to N.P.D.E.S. BLESS....

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Submitted by Steve Brown on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 8:25pm.

There is no doubt that the computer traffic modeling used to determine the projects for the Transportation SPLOST contained false data.

In essence, the county made the computer tell them what they wanted the outcome to be by using skewed data.

Commissioner Lee Hearn was in charge of Public Works at the time and he knows the numbers were distorted.

The West Fayetteville Bypass is nothing more than free infrastructure for developers who will seek increased housing density on the land in the area.


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Submitted by mudcat on Thu, 03/26/2009 - 4:56am.

Sounds like we have a new candidate for city council coming out.

Although this time he is probably correct. The tools on county commission are very growth and developer friendly. This stupid bypass can only be for the benefit of more rezonings along it's corridor.

Munford should be able to request the skewed data from the county and do an expose in The Citizen. Maybe some of the other columnists can help.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 7:58pm.

But what is needed is a bypass to get around PTC.
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Submitted by hutch866 on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 8:02pm.

A while back Steve Brown said the only reason for the bypass was to make it harder the PTC folks to get to I-85.

I yam what I yam....Popeye


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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 5:43pm.

I suspect even Ben doesn't read the entire article.


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Submitted by Shoebox on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 5:32pm.

You're gonna get bulldozed down by money and power in the name of Government and we all know that Government gets what the heck it wants! I've already been through this once! We lost our house and our property. Did you people know that you voted for this project when you voted for SPLOST? NEVER vote for more taxes. We're already being double taxed and for what? Stuff like this?


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Submitted by Voice of Fayett... on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 7:43pm.

County Government Bulldozes the landowner again. It is interesting how Lees Mill Road is mentioned. All you have to do is look at the water tower at the corner of Lees Mill and 92 and you can see where the county stuck in the behind of Dave Williams (I think that is his name). He paid taxes on that property and yet the county took the position that it was county property, took it and did not pay him a dime and did not refund his taxes. Now with the Bypass its BOHICA. Here you have Chamber Sycophant Jack Smith saying "Because we said so." We are in a depression and we are wasting money like this? We get what we deserve.


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Submitted by Gene61 on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 5:11pm.

A giant waste of tax funds or good planning for the future? This project is 20 plus years in the making, personally I don't see how we need to take on this project, when if it was such a needed one, we've managed 20 years without..

I see this as a giant lang grab for the county. do not understand where the traffic is coming from that will be using this West Fayetteville bypass myself.

I agree with this statement from the article,

“Even though the county is not proposing to get any of my property now, I don’t like the idea that they can just come out and condemn someone’s property for no apparent reason. They say they’re going to put a road in, but they don’t have the permits yet to do this,” Fowler said. “This whole bypass, I think, was presented to the voters wrong. They saw on the SPLOST that the bypass was to be put around Fayetteville and I don’t understand how you can call this a bypass. Sure we need some traffic elimination around Fayetteville, but if the county can’t justify that this is going to take five cars or 5,000 cars out of Fayetteville, if we spend this kind of money and only let 10 or 50 people bypass Fayetteville, then we’ve wasted this tax money that we could spend on other things.”

Takethe SPLOST funds and keep the countys debt down and make sure we the tax payers don't face a large jump in new taxes in the future. Hell , repair the roads we have now!


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