No bailout $$$ for us ...

Tue, 03/17/2009 - 4:16pm
By: Ben Nelms

Feds, governor say we’re not poor enough to qualify for extra school funding this year

Fayette County Board of Education members got a glimpse Monday night of how federal stimulus dollars might impact state education and the local school system.

For Fayette, they were told, there may not be much to see, since Fayette has few residents below the poverty level. And further out, other funds will not be available until 2010-2011.

Fayette County School Superintendent John DeCotis said Fayette is the only school district in the state not receiving Title I funds. When asked for an explanation, “They can’t explain it, but they say we don’t qualify,” DeCotis said, obviously not satisfied with the state’s response.

Recognized from the floor at the school board meeting Monday night, Sandra Watson, Fayette director of elementary schools and title programs, said she had spoken with someone in Washington, D.C., and had been told that a total of four grants might be available through the Title I funding in a second round of funding, called Flow II.

She said she was told that the school system could likely apply for only one of the four grants because Fayette County’s poverty numbers are less than 5 percent, based on 2007 estimates derived from the 2000 Census.

That reality makes the possibility of Fayette receiving some Flow II dollars somewhat tenuous, she said.

“They say our poverty (level) is 4.7 percent,” Watson said. “So you can challenge, but they said it probably won’t do any good.”

As for funds for disabilities programs that might be received through IDEA, the reception of those dollars is contingent on approval through a grant application process, DeCotis said.

The stimulus money is expected to come in two “flows,” DeCotis said. The amount that can be expected in arrive in Georgia and be passed through to public education by Gov. Sonny Perdue is currently unknown, he said.

What is known, through information received by state school Superintendent Kathy Cox from U.S. Dept. of Education Commissioner Allen Duncan, is that the federal government would like to “send this funding to the states just as soon as possible to save programs and create jobs” and to “improve student achievement.”

Based on the information provided, DeCotis said that in Flow I, 81 percent of the funds will be used in 2010-2011 to shore up state education funding rather than in the FY 2009 school year, a decision made by Gov. Perdue.

DeCotis said school systems had also been told that the funds targeted for facilities, roughly 18 percent, would be going instead to law enforcement.

Flow II funds are destined for disadvantaged students through Title I (poverty-based federal funding) and IDEA (Individuals with Disabilities Education Act) and are in addition to Flow I funds.

State Title Program Coordinator Barbara Lunsford said the Flow II funds will come quickly, with Title I receiving stimulus money based on poverty and on needs improvement. DeCotis said some of the Flow II money could be earmarked for this year, though that eventuality is not yet known.

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Submitted by g8trgrl on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 10:50am.

The Coweta Board of Education told their teachers to not worry about pay cuts because they have enough $ in reserves for 2 years! There will be no lay-offs of teachers in Coweta & the teachers take no pay cut! Wonder what that BoE did to manage this? Oh yeah! Probably put some money in reserves in the good times to cover the bad times. FCBOE buys land all over town, pays to be told how to redistrict & says no thanks to that, and does not save their $. Amazing... I can honestly say I did not vote for Smith, Smola and Wright & I hope more people have those bragging rights the next go around!

Submitted by hometownmedic on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 3:42pm.

Based on 2007 estimates derived from the 2000 Census, not based on how many of us are trying to borrow from peter to pay paul and not get the power turned off. Not taking in to account that the FCBOE has built schools that were not necessary, that we are laying off teachers, that we a re "helping to educate" those from neighboring less fortunate counties.

I am thinking about home schooling my children.

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Submitted by redrooster on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 8:40pm.

Good Answer!

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 8:56pm.

At the rate you're going with the schools, you'll trash our dear county soon. We're going to get those disadvantaged school funds sooner or later. Keep trying!!!

Vote Republican

Submitted by mysteryman on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 8:41pm.

He will set it right with one wave of his staff....BLESS

Submitted by MacTheKnife on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 8:20pm.

.... wow..... but of course we don't qualify. If they give the money back to us ... they won't be redistributing the wealth. You silly middle and upper middle class working people just don't get it do you.

Your money funds all the social programs and give-away programs for those who will vote for the socialists who will give them your money. In other words, your money buys the votes of the ignorant, easily fooled, and lazy.

Now, don't you feel stupid for faithfully paying that mortgage all those years?

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Submitted by kew96692003 on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 2:47pm.

People like you seem to forget that your wonderful king of all morons "W" caused this 11 Trillion dollar debt you speak of by blowing our surplus on a war he created in his on mind. Yet for some reason you folks can't admit that HE is the cause of all that is wrong in this country today. I bet your proud to say you voted for someone who can't even manage to keep thier own household running w/o little bastard children being born in to it. It is quite comical to me to hear you assuming that all the people that wanted Obama as President must be poor, unemployed, non-homeowners, & oh let's not forget "lesser" people than you. We all know what they say about that lovely word "assume" now jump down off of your soapbox, you are no where near as "good" as you think you are!

I read a bumper sticker the other day on an elderly lady's little truck she was driving through Fayetteville that had a pic of "W" and it said very simply that "somewhere in Texas a village has lost it's idiot", I believe we can now say the same for what ever village you crawled out of.

Fayette county schools certainly deserve these funds as well, especialy if we have to house Clayton counties kids at our expense but we will never get anywhere with the kind of negativity that emanates from people like you.

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Submitted by The Wedge on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 5:48pm.

But guess what? It is all congress's fault. If they actually took their jobs seriously, deliberated effectively, and actually passed a declaration of war, then perhaps we will be a bit more circumspect before we commit troops. Instead Congress, including most of the dems (not Obama as he wasn't holding office yet) passed an authorization for hostile conflict. All of the serious standard bearers of the democratic party voted for that bill. Spare me from Kucinich (he couldn't even govern Cleveland effectively). It is laughable to blame Bush for the Iraq war when the opposition marched lockstep into the conflict with him. And why stop there. Why did the Army deploy into Bosnia under Clinton and had rotations into that region for a decade after? What national purpose was served there? Trust me, for every conservatard (for sniffles) that writes legislation there is a Chris Dodd looking to protect bonuses for AIG and Freddie Mac. Their golden calf is the almighty dollar and the power that their position provides. Ask Nancy the next time she boards a C141

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Submitted by JeffC on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 10:07pm.

Your argument is right out of talk radio and is as bogus as can be. The bailout money is going to Lehman Brothers, AIG, CitiGroup and the big auto companies not to the people you're describing.

Submitted by MacTheKnife on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 11:16am.

I don't listen to talk radio but apparently you do. Maybe they listen to me - a middle class hard working tax payer? Perhaps that's why they are so popular? Or, maybe they are just drawing the same conclusions that I am. Imagine that - people arriving at a common realization without a democratic think-tank issuing talking points to a group via the Internet. But I do thank you for your opinion and the unthoughtful discounting of my feelings on this matter. I wouldn't expect anything less from a Carter.

I think a lot of hard working Americans will draw those same conclusions in the next few years though JeffC. The expansion of government and government spending is completely out of control and has been for several years. I know how you Dems love to rant on deficits.... but not now that it is the highest in history....why not now? Of course, we can both agree that we went from the ridiculous in Bush to the sublime in Obama as far as spending on government programs go....right? Unlike most democrats JeffC, I am not a socialist first but rather call it on all the political hacks like I see it. Bush was bad - Obama is much worse. At lease Bush's spending spree included a strong military and not massive cuts in the military. I digress.

I for one am sick of "Bailouts". I did not support the first one under Bush (unlike both candidate Obama and McCain) and I don't support the current (ongoing) ones by Obama either. No company is "too big to fail' in my opinion. From its remnants will rise a smaller, leaner, more efficient company if the need exists. If the need does not exist, then our government has just adopted a quagmire of endless expense with no benefit to the taxpayer and is prohibiting those who would find, train and fill jobs in other areas from doing so.

No JeffC I am simply an Adam Smith kind of fiscal conservative who HATES to see a growth in government at the expense of liberty and capitalism. Now there is something I am certain we could never agree on. By the way - I am pro choice, support same sex marriage and the legalization of marijuana .... all of which involve LESS government intrusion in our lives. I bet you and the (group) think tank you work for aren't as consistent. Regardless, I will not call your opinions "bogus" so criticize my opinions all you like. I know how much I pay in taxes and I know where most of it is going - and it sickens me. Regardless, I prefer not to address people personally since this is a place to post thoughts and opinions - not to discount and denigrate people personally. So, I will continue to post when I feel like it and you can keep me updated on talk radio - it really sounds very interesting. I think they may be on to something.

Wow! Hey Jeff- just added this...take a look:

Looks like you have a lot of idiots to argue with. You better hope this doesn't continue to spread. Must be a bunch of talk radio listeners.

Have a good Day JeffC.

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Submitted by kew96692003 on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 2:49pm.

Of course you overlook the fact that "W" created more Government tahn this country has ever before seen. Wonder what all he heard you say on his wiretaps?

Submitted by Incognito on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 3:17pm.

File this under "so what, who cares" or "Who is John Galt?". President GW Bush expanded the government and blew up the budget. President BH Obama blows up the budget by an order of magnitude more and don't you think that he is gonna expand the government even more? It is a pointless argument because at the end of the day and for the past 60 years, the government has gotten bigger and bigger, more intrusive and more intrusive. As power is more and more centralized and the people become more and more like Roman citizens demanding their circuses and bread, are we really going to pound our chests and say the last guy sucked so bad that good times are on our way now that we have changed presidents? GIT REAL. It is more of the same in better packaging

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Submitted by kew96692003 on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 3:47pm.

I agree with you for the most part but yes, the last President sucked so bad that the outcome is very bleak. We in the spirit of optimism should at least give this one a chance to suck before we all scream that he is the same.

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Submitted by S. Lindsey on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 7:46am.

Most of the funds that were given to AIG.. went to overseas banks.. Sounds like a money Laundering scheme to me.. The American Taxpayers are bailing out Banks in the UK, France and Germany.. Why?

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS.. Evil


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Submitted by suggarfoot on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 6:44pm.

we ...HAD...the money...You spent it! No one, is going to feel sorry for us!.. or put more money in your hands!

If we hadn't bought all that land, or built schools we didn't need, we would not be here, hoping for a handout.

We don't qualify! It is just that simple!

Let the money go to those that need it most and will spend it wisely!

And, our voting monoply that never get it right? Well you don't need more to experiment with!

Our well is dry and the Feds don't have confidence in you!

Suck it up Smith, Smola, and Wright! No swimming pools! and No astro turf! Oh My God! What to do?

I guess you will just have to budget and save for dreams, like everyone else.

Seems ashame you drug us down with you.

I for one, am tired of morons trying to validate their identity by serving on the BOE.

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Submitted by kew96692003 on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 3:48pm.

Some truth, thank goodness!

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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 5:58pm.

even with students coming from Clayton County we still can't qualify. I'm shocked.
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Submitted by deadeye on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 5:08pm.

Yes sir, the messiah is gonna save us all...blah, blah, blah.

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