AIG - Bailout, Bonuses and, Contracts.

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400 individuals at AIG will split $220M ($55M already distributed last December) between them as required by legally binding contracts. The average works out to $550K each. Any thoughts out there?

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Submitted by alanman on Wed, 04/08/2009 - 12:02pm.

Well, you can't mess with an employment contract but in this specific case I do think these money are way too much. What does a man has to do to earn all these money? I don't think we can talk about compensation here...

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Submitted by DarthDubious on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 7:20pm.

to draw our eyes away from the TRILLIONS the Fed/Treasury is shoveling into the banks, and of course the banks are buying up other banks consolidating even more of OUR wealth into THEIR hands.

I could care less about what's already done, let's stop them from doing any more!!!

In Liberty,

DarthDubious


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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 8:18pm.

Perhaps that is so. But talk about wealth, I've seen some estimates/reports the market contracted a staggering $11 Trillion during this current "bear" period. Now that is a lot of wealth that just simply evaporated.
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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 6:32pm.

Dodd insisted that tax cheat Geithner's Treasury staff wanted language in the bill that created a loophole for AIG to exploit. Tax cheat Geithner said that the Treasure staff staff was working closely with Dodd's staff. Dodd said he inserted language that permitted payouts of any executive bonuses because the administration asked him to. Puzzled

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This is why a few of us believe the less "Guv" the better. They can't even get this right. This is so disgusting.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 6:59pm.

Someone that is good at public relations.
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Submitted by mapleleaf on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 5:00pm.

Of course, I have comments.

When you enter into a legally binding contract that does not turn out, your first step is to endeavor to renegotiate it.

You explain to the other side what the consequences of not renegotiating might be. And you present the choices available. One choice might be instant employment termination, followed by an investigation of what the employee might have done that could be subject to prosecution (civil or criminal) and attendant publicity. (If the employee sues to recover the bonus under his contract, there could be some counterclaims.)

One other choice might be an extension of the contract with new terms which cut down the bonus and leave open the possibility of better pay in the future if and when conditions get better.

Whatever it is, you don't just stand there, wring your hands, and do nothing as if you had no choices whatsoever (which is what current managers are doing). There are choices for people who look for them. And nobody is indispensable.


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Submitted by yardman5508 on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 3:25pm.

years and years ago when i was teaching in a private school the first year i moved to GA, i started putting my money into a VALIC plan...i believe that stood for Variable Annuity Life Insurance Company...rather than sending my money to the Social Security System...something that was allowed for teachers at that time. Over the years i contributed money to my plan to prepare for my "golden years". The company was eventually bought up by AIG. Today {actually between 8/1/08 and 9/30/08} my retirement account lost 60% of its value.

Now this is not written in support of AIG and its shoddy investment procedures. I feel as outraged by the fantastic sums sucked out of the bailout funds as the next guy. I can only hope and pray that AIG continues as an investment company so that my retirement, as meager as it might be now, will retain ANY of its value. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport


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Submitted by Cyclist on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 5:36pm.

Today {actually between 8/1/08 and 9/30/08} my retirement account lost 60% of its value.

I can certainly appreciate that. Having gone through the "Lorenzo years" at Continental Airlines I lost all my retirement. Those years I worked for them and the benefits that was assured me by a "Legally binding contract" went down the toilet when the "contract" was thrown out by the bankruptcy court. See, there are contracts and there are them "other" contracts that are untouchable. Like AIG.

Good hearing from you.

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 1:39pm.

My comments: {{{EDITED FOR STRONG LANGUAGE THAT DISPARAGES THE WHOLE FINANCIAL SITUATION}}}

It's not easy being the carbonunit


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Submitted by yardman5508 on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 3:27pm.

Now that is not something i would expect a good central Pennsylvanian to utter in public...getting censored for heavens sake....tsk,tsk, tsk

Even a dead fish can go with the flow.


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Submitted by dawn69 on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 4:01pm.

What did you teach? And, what type of private school did you teach in? I've been looking at Montessori schools for my kids. I love Marie Montessori's ideas for education but just can't come up with 7 - 10k a year for the priveledge.

"That it will never come again is what makes life so sweet."
- Emily Dickinson


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Submitted by yardman5508 on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 4:59pm.

i taught at Flint River Academy in Woodbury. Taught social studies (mainly government). I have known some students who were products of Montessori schools and they were generally good, self-motivated learners...but then that is what Montessori schools are all about...developing self-motivated learners. My son was a product of Fayette County schools, but got into the Gifted Program early and was blessed with teachers who did not mind if he read when he finished his work, as long as he was not disruptive. He was always a self-motivated learner, but that was in-born. Keep the faith.

Democracy is NOT a spectator sport


Submitted by mysteryman on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 5:06pm.

Stands for ALL I GOT....How ironic....BLESS

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