A morally relevant difference

I noticed muddle used this phrase to justify why some are not treated equally with others.

All three words--morally, relevant, and difference are subject to definition and can certainly be interpreted in many ways by many people.
Morally means deciding what is right in a case.
Relevant means bearing on the matter at hand.
Difference means the way one person is identified when compared to another.

I think a better simple way to define when something is a right mught be:

whether or not everyone gets "enough."

If I feel very ill I should be treated by a physician whether I can pay him or not.

If I am eating adequately a balanced diet, then I have no right to a big steak unless I can pay for it.

It is not difficult nor does it require a philosopher to explain it.

Bonkers's blog | login to post comments

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Bonkers Philosophy
muddle's picture
Submitted by muddle on Sun, 03/08/2009 - 11:21am.

Who is this that darkens counsel without knowledge?

Bonkers begins by appealing to some sort of relativism: "Morally", "Relevant," and "Difference" are subject to interpretation.

First, most will agree that there are clear cases where one may distinguish between relevant and irrelevant differences. As with my example, being paid more due to seniority or qualification or contribution is a different sort of thing from being paid more for being white or male.

Further, Bonkers apparently fails to notice that, after challenging the objectivity of moral judgments, he/she proceeds immediately to offering some. Any claim to the effect that someone does or does not have a right to something is a moral judgment. All moral judgments presuppose some sort of principle in virtue of which they would be true. Some principles are more plausible than others. Bonkers thinks that all that is required is an assertion off the top 'o the head, and suspects that any inquiry into such principles is mere gobbledegook.

It is precisely like the drunk guy who says to his buddy, "I think you've had enough tonight, Ralph. You're beginning to look blurry."

____________________

"Puddleglum" by Weatherwax (one of the Muddlings).

Jeeves to the Rescue


login to post comments
Research over
Submitted by Bonkers on Wed, 06/03/2009 - 1:59pm.

Now that eight years of total and complete failure have left us with what you now see clearly, maybe "change" will do the trick?
Gonna take years however to overcome the false, borrowed economy and war tinges.
I did my part!

login to post comments
Bonkers!
rock78's picture
Submitted by rock78 on Wed, 06/03/2009 - 7:00pm.

Glad to see you're back! As troubling as it is - I've missed our 70 year old rapper (kudos to Sniffles for the nickname.)


login to post comments
Bonkers/$, You old goat....
Cyclist's picture
Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 06/03/2009 - 6:02pm.

We thought you might have cashed those chips in. Good to have you back!
-------------------------------------------
Caution - The Surgeon General has determined that constant blogging is an addiction that can cause a sedentary life style.


login to post comments
Bonkers!
Tug13's picture
Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 06/03/2009 - 4:07pm.

Where in the world have you been? I've been worried about you! When is your book being published?

Tug Smiling


login to post comments
Bonkers...
Main Stream's picture
Submitted by Main Stream on Wed, 06/03/2009 - 3:54pm.

Hey, welcome back! Where have you been? Somewhere fun, I hope.


login to post comments
Bonkers,
eodnnaenaj1's picture
Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 6:17am.

As much as it pains me . . . yeah what they all said.


login to post comments
Heeeeeeees Baaaaaaaaaaccccck
hutch866's picture
Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 06/03/2009 - 2:29pm.

How you feeling Bonk?

I yam what I yam....Popeye


login to post comments
muddle: darkens council
Submitted by Bonkers on Sun, 03/08/2009 - 3:39pm.

Darkens council without knowledge, he says!

Since I am without knowledge I will guess at what that means. I think it means I am a dumb ass trying to talk to a smart ass!

One more dumb comment:

Seniority can mean absolutely nothing as far as qualifications is concerned--that is union talk for someone who has paid union dues for a long time. Or has "tenure." Didn't that Indian PhD have tenure?
Chances are they should not be paid more than any other qualified person unless you have a special reason to keep them.

login to post comments
muddle
Submitted by dollaradayandno... on Sun, 03/08/2009 - 1:34pm.

I read bonk's and your speech on rights.

It seems to me that he will make his way in this world in an obvious fashion and you will try the more "blurry" way as you call it!

Judgements by those in power or by those with more money or titles is contained in your philosophy every time you justify this world's shortcomings.

Even in your religious explanations, as a philosopher, you tend to separate humans into the ones with more so-called intelligence from those "others." You even stated in so many words that the changes made between the Old Testament and the New Testament shouldn't have happened since they were absolutes--I suppose in both cases?

login to post comments
Dollaraday
Submitted by Bonkers on Sun, 03/08/2009 - 3:52pm.

I noticed your comment about absolutes. There ain't no fiber in anyofem!

The cave men were deathly afraid of the lightning and thunder Gods.
Adam and Eve , or at least Eve, talked to snakes.
Cloven-hoofed creatures were rail bad fer ye.
However hundreds, even thousands of wives was OK. As many concubines as one could feed. Or, put to work.
I saw a movie where one of the tablets containing the fifteen commandments Moses found was dropped by him and thereby was created the Ten commandments! We have canoned a lot more since then.
I read the gnostic gospels once, I think that is what they are called,
and I writ em off as written by competition to the other scribs!

Now a new Covenant is gospel except fer when it ain't nuf, then the Old Guy takes over sometimes. When applicable or judged morally relevant!

login to post comments
Correction...
S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 7:33am.

He/They are all back

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..Evil

GUN CONTROL Link


login to post comments
I know what you mean
S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 7:34am.

talking to yourself is enlightning

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..Evil

GUN CONTROL Link


login to post comments
SL LOL
Cyclist's picture
Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 7:37am.

Nicely done!
-------------------------------------------
Caution - The Surgeon General has determined that constant blogging is an addiction that can cause a sedentary life style.


login to post comments
Just being my usual
S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 7:55am.

witty self..
Snif that was an observation..neither a commentary or a criticism

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..Evil

GUN CONTROL Link


login to post comments
Just hate it when I do that
S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 7:55am.

deleted AGAIN.. Fingers to fast for my own good


login to post comments
Hey SL,
Cyclist's picture
Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 8:17am.

You seemed to have developed knack for duplicate posts. I suggest morning stretching exercises. Perhaps doing a Richard Simmons tape in the morning might help. Smiling
-------------------------------------------
Caution - The Surgeon General has determined that constant blogging is an addiction that can cause a sedentary life style.


login to post comments
Fleeting fingerer or bogged brain syndrome
S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 8:25am.

Not sure which.. Rather do a Jane Fonda tape... something to really get me riled up at..

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..Evil

GUN CONTROL Link


login to post comments
Well hey SL,
Cyclist's picture
Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 8:30am.

I have some stretchy pants you can wear. I tried to give them to Git but he, for some strange reason, declined.
-------------------------------------------
Caution - The Surgeon General has determined that constant blogging is an addiction that can cause a sedentary life style.


login to post comments
Ummmm.. how do I say this..... NO
S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 8:34am.

but thanks for playing...

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..Evil

GUN CONTROL Link


login to post comments

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.