Fred Garvin's picture


- The Dow at a 10-year low.
- A tax cheat running the IRS
- Another tax cheat as the Chief of Staff
- A trillion-dollar plus federal deficit
- Over one-half of voters relieved of any federal tax liability
- Government mandated limits on executive compensation
- Three failed attempts and still no Commerce Secretary
- Tom Daschle rides his free limo into the sunset - after paying taxes he evaded.
- The White House performance czar turns out to be a tax cheat also
- Lobbyists hired to work for the Obama Administration
- The census gets politicized
- Double government spending in one year
- The word "freedom" fades into obscurity
- Increasing home loan mortgage rates across the board
- Millions of Americans made dependent on government
- Moving unionization-by-intimidation forward
- Welfare checks become "tax cuts."
- Illegal aliens free to work on taxpayer-funded "stimulus" projects
- Welfare reform reversed, states ordered to increase welfare roles
- Move to silence critical talk radio shows
- Selling Senate seats
- Obama books in religious sections of book stores
- More government workers, not private sector jobs
- A government bureaucracy to intrude on doctor/patient relationships
- Stage set for medical services rationing
- Annual welfare checks for middle income families
- Government mandated Section 8 housing coming to a home near you very soon.

Fred Garvin's blog | login to post comments

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Gene61's picture
Submitted by Gene61 on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 9:26am.

Palin Campaign Clothes Complaint Dismissed: Little Coverage in Old Media

Remember how everyone in the Old Media delighted in lambasting Governor Sarah Palin when the GOP bought all those clothes for her use during the McCain campaign? Remember how it was reported as nearly a foregone conclusion that these purchases must have somehow been illegal? It was even bigger news when the left-wing group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) filed an ethics complaint with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) against the GOP. The whole thing was the talk of the Old Media, as you may recall.

Well, as of May 15, the FEC ruled that there was no ethics violation and the clothing spending was deemed legal. One would think that this news concluding the story would make as big of a splash with the Old Media as the beginning of the tale did. Naturally, crickets have been heard throughout the media establishment as little notice has been paid to this story.

Ethics Complaint on Apparel Dismissed

June 3, 2009, Anchorage, Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin today welcomed news that another ethics complaint has been dismissed. This is the 14th ethics complaint filed against the governor or her staff that has been resolved with no finding of a violation of the Executive Branch Ethics Act. Those complaints contain 22 separate allegations, all of which have been found to be without merit.

The complaint, filed by Linda Kellen Biegel, a blogger designated by the 2008 Democratic National Convention to represent Alaska bloggers, alleged that the governor violated the ethics act when she acted as the official starter of the Iron Dog snow machine race in February while wearing a jacket with the name Team Arctic, a logo of the Arctic Cat Company. The complaint accused the governor of using her position and state resources to serve her personal financial interests. The complaint also alleged that the governor used state resources to promote a personal interest.

Gene61's picture
Submitted by Gene61 on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 9:18am.

Will someone tell me where to get my free government payout? Heck looking at my balance sheet, dont we qualify for bailouts ?

This is no longer your parents America, everyone on the government cash train. Geeze..

JeffC's picture
Submitted by JeffC on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 4:35pm.

Well, well, well, look who didn't pay her taxes. You'd think that after she cheated Alaska out of the money in the first place by charging per diem for staying in her own house she would at least declare it as income.

She sounds like Charlie Rangle... didn't know she had housing income.

Palin Now Owes Taxes on Payments for Nights at Home

I can't wait for Talk Radio to get hold of this! I'm sure there'll be a storm. Right?

Submitted by AtHomeGym on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 11:23am.

While I would never have filed for Per Diem while staying in my own house, note that what she did was legal at the time and she owes taxes now only because of a recent state reversal of policy, which will cause a change in her W-2 Forms.

Submitted by blazing2006 on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 11:23am.

this story was posted back in Feburary and now you are just posting this. Old news and it has been corrected and she has done nothing wrong. Nice try though. What is current, is Obamanation is selling this country to China and has in a few short months dug an 11 trillion dollar hole that yours and my greatgrandchildren will still be paying for. How do you sleep at night and support what Obama has done. You should be ashamed in yourself for being so blind. You are willing to vote democrat no matter what it costs and that is very sad indeed. Socialism here we come. And I'll just bet if we had the opportuntiy to look at your finances through every orifice we could find stuff wrong too.

JeffC's picture
Submitted by JeffC on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 1:15pm.

Look at the time stamp. I posted it back in Feb, not recently. The story unfolded and I agreed that she did no wrong on the taxes.

Submitted by MacTheKnife on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 1:38pm.

I couldn't resist piling on. (Thus the 'oops too late' comment.)

Besides, mine comment so funny that I thought it was worth the rub.

By the way you guys are really really quiet about the King's policies lately. Unemployment got you down? North Korea? Increased violence in Iraq? Gitmo "detainees" (don't you love that word), come on...... your not disappointed are you?

JeffC's picture
Submitted by JeffC on Thu, 06/11/2009 - 8:07pm.

Unemployment is a result of the Bush/Republican policies and if you look at the charts the rate of increase is abating. Obama will take credit for the inevitable recovery which probably would have happened anyway but the R's gave away the issue by claiming the stimulus wouldn't work and voting against it. North Korea? Yep, I sure wish Bush et. al. hadn't let them develop nuclear weapons. Too bad they abrogated the Agreed Framework which had locked up the fuel rods and had allowed the IAEA inspectors to guard them. Violence in Iraq? Let's not even go there. Gitmo? Another Bush legacy mess for the Dem's to clean up.

On the other hand, look at the election in Lebanon. Major blow to Hezbollah! International press credits it all to Obama and his new foreign policy. Same for Iran. Ahmadinejad's in the fight of his life because of Obama's policies.

Disappointed? You're still listening to too much talk radio.

I just bought a rotisserie for my grill. Life is good.

Submitted by MacTheKnife on Fri, 06/12/2009 - 10:06am.

Come on Jeff, the rate of increase is abating? LOL Your boy lost over 3 million jobs on his watch already, more on the way, unemployement has already exceeded any maximum he promised under his (approved) 'stimulus package'. and the best you guys have is "..the rate of increase is abating"? Yea, we are losing jobs but not as many as we lost last month? lol... OR yea, he's a serial killer but he is killing fewer now than he killed last month... LOL

If you truly like graphs, why not you look at the escalation of violence in the last six months in Iraq and Afghanistan under the Obama watch. (How do you feel about reading Miranda to the terrorists we capture.... that will scare the hell out of them ... "YOU have the right to remain silent ... and YOU have the right to counsel.... " )

Look at the graphs for government spending and the national debt increases in the last six months. Oops....

Look at the number of car dealership closings .... those jobless numbers are not even in yet.

So what are you saying? Your new strategy is on the left is - "we will not take responsibility for anything negative"? That's the age old liberal strategy Jeff.

I don't get all the paranoia about talk radio. If 58 million people can conclude that 2 trillion + 2 trillion = 4 trillion, it isn't really rational to assume that they are all listening to 'talk radio', it's PARANOIA Jeff.

Besides, you should know that those of us that work for a living can't sit back and listen to talk radio.
______________ Break _______________

You will love the rotisserie. I finally sprung for a high dollar Jenn Air all stainless grill and hooked it up to our gas line. No more tanks. I must say that my initial review is "I should have done this a loooooong time ago!"

Life if VERY good Jeff. I saw the pics or your mom and dad at the McIntosh Grad. Happy to see them looking healthy and happy.
______________________________ Break____________________________

I have always liked and respected your father as a good and honorable man but always hated his policies and political bent. I feel differently about Obama. I like him on a personality level and I think he is charismatic and funny but I truly feel his character and judgement are both fatally flawed.

On a side note:

I will be out of town for a bit - bloggers keep the ideas and opinions flowing! This is an exercise of your first amendment freedoms that many have served and some have died to secure.

(Jimmy C. served - B.H. Obama didn't - maybe that's a PART of my skepticism about his phony 'new found' patriotism .... not sure.)

The Wedge's picture
Submitted by The Wedge on Thu, 06/11/2009 - 8:18pm.

What do you see as a long term shift in our economy under President Obama. If we evolve into confiscatory taxation of the upper third of Americans, do you see a corresponding destruction and unemployment in industries such as luxury shipbuilding and general aviation? What do you think the top marginal rate is going to settle at?

Submitted by kevin king on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 1:22pm.

I wanted to see how long it would go before one of their own would correct the error. These folks are so reflexive, they shoot first and check date stamps later.

I'm outa here, friend. Going to smell some roses. Good luck to you and yours, and I'll see you around the neighborhood!

Fred Garvin's picture
Submitted by Fred Garvin on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 12:27pm. get a Reagan.

3-1/2 more years of this liberal socialist/marxist, radical Islam appeasing, global warming hoax, non-transparency, nonsense and the American public will make sure that the democrats are out of power for another 20 years.

It will be a long 3-1/2 years - let's just hope there is something left of America when this debacle of a "presidency" is over.

The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a
happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the
other. -- Ronald Reagan

Submitted by MacTheKnife on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 9:41am.

I suppose Governor Palin will be tapped for a cabinet position should these allegations be found to be true.

The teleprompter in Chief just loves a good tax cheat.

I guess he could put her in charge of travel since TurboTaxTimmy already has dubs on the IRS.

Oh, too late, she was cleared on all counts.

Oh well, maybe Al Franken is available?

Gene61's picture
Submitted by Gene61 on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 9:21am.

Yawn.... She was cleared of all charges and unlike the dems that Obama has slected to join his cabinet, perhaps the left shoul just shut up and pay their taxes..

Paging Tom Daschle, paging Tom D, your limo is ready..

S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 8:39pm.


""If you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world," Barrack Obama

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..Evil

Submitted by lifeinptc on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 5:08pm.

Check out the blog below.

Submitted by 1bighammer on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 5:04pm.

Well, well, well, look who can't read. You'd think that after JeffC read the article he would realize that she wasn't a tax cheat that , per the article,
At the time, the state finance director said the practice was permitted because Palin's official "duty station" is Juneau, the state capital, which is 600 miles from Wasilla.

Palin often stayed in her lakeside home in Wasilla and drove 45 miles to Anchorage, to a state office building where she conducts most of her business.

Reimbursement for legitimate business expenses is not considered taxable income under the Internal Revenue Code, tax lawyers said.

Not taxable income...therefore NO TAX WAS OWED!!

But Hey that's typical of the Liberals...Just make it up!

The article also stated the following :
Palin said many of the per diem expenses occurred while plumbing was being repaired in the governor's mansion in Juneau. She said she could have billed the state for hotel or apartment lodging but opted against that, "knowing that we're going to spend quite a bit of time here [in Wasilla], especially those months where the remodels were taking place in the governor's mansion. And we would disclose my per diem, we wouldn't try to hide it."

Yep she could have billed for a hotel, equivalent to the Governors residence in Juneau and that would have been what...$200 or $300 dollars a night? Instead she only charged roughly $54 a night! Yep..she's a cheater.

bad_ptc's picture
Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 7:19pm.

Jeff, what the article failed to mention was that Palin probably tried to submit per diem expenses for each of her kids and the dog-sled racer as they too were ‘officially invited’ to accompany her at their house during her stay.

Palin also charged the state a per diem on Thanksgiving Day 2007.

U. S. Office of Personnel Management

Official Worksite for Location-Based Pay Purposes

If the employee's work involves regular travel or the employee's work location varies on a daily basis, the official worksite is the location serving as the base for the employee's work activities as determined by the employing agency.

I give you three guesses who gets to make that determination at the Governors office.

Temporary Changes in Work Location

* If an employee is authorized to receive relocation allowances under 5 U.S.C. 5737 and 41 CFR part 302-3, subpart E ("Employee's Temporary Change of Station"), in connection with a long-term assignment (i.e., 6 to 30 months), the work location for the long-term assignment is considered the official worksite for pay purposes.

* If an employee is temporarily reassigned or promoted to another position in a different geographic area, the temporary work location is considered the official worksite for pay purposes.

A few things to consider:

“Palin often stayed in her lakeside home in Wasilla and drove 45 miles to Anchorage, to a state office building where she conducts most of her business.” If indeed that is the case then Palin should consider changing her “Official Duty Station” to where she conducts MOST of her business.

As Palin claimed that the Governor’s mansion was undergoing plumbing modifications that prohibited her from staying there in the first place her claim of “Official Duty Station” doesn’t apply. (See “Temporary Changes in Work Location“ above)

Additionally, Palin’s “Official Duty Station” is NOT the Governor’s mansion but rather the Governors Office, Alaska State Capitol, Juneau, AK 99801.

Question: Was it ever verified that the $150,000 worth of clothes got ‘donated’ as promised?

Cyclist's picture
Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 4:52pm.


S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 4:51pm.

and you would be too.. if the IRS changed the law after you had already paid your taxes.. and by the way it goes for all the State employees including the Legislators themselves.. They owe back taxes as well.. I know you saw that part of the story too.. Right?

"During her first 19 months in office, Palin charged the state 16,951 dollars in "per diem" allowances for spending 312 nights in her home. The allowances were intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while she was traveling on state business.

The state this week reversed a policy that had treated the payments as legitimate business expenses under the Internal Revenue Code, said state administrator Annette Kreitzer.

Payments to employees charging "per diem" expenses to stay in their own homes will be treated as income subject to taxes, Kreitzer said, and the state will update the employees' W-2 forms."

Hey Jeff.. she owed the Money only AFTER the law was changed.. So your pal OBAMA is still way ahead.. Keep digging though you will eventually find something that makes Barry look good..

diva's picture
Submitted by diva on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 5:27pm.

So, you guys are splaining why a government paid official can ETHICALLY TAKE per diem from the taxpayers while living in their own house? Next you will explain why it was okay for her to take her family for free on official functions. If you are going to be champions of accountability, why compromise yourselves now? Oh, I know... for political points.

Cool with me.

S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 8:41pm.

Just wondering???

""If you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world," Barrack Obama

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..Evil

Submitted by baroombrawl on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 4:50pm.

These types of people (Palin) of the religious far right, known as ultra conservative, no excess sex, and much better than anyone who is common (liberal), are always violating much of what they preach!

However, thjey also believe that forgiveness is in their blood and that it is OK. Over and over.

There is no one on the face of the earth who would think that they are owed per diem from anybody for staying at home. It was her choice to travel to and from work! Take the kids to the Capitol! She wanted to be Governor.

With husbands like hers, and daughters like hers, and with shooting animals from helicopters, and a weird VooDoo church, I have seen all I need to see.

S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 5:00pm.

Lucy you got some splaining to do...

Wow you got some hate bottled up there.. try to let it all out.. I am sure you can disparage her parents.. how about the State itself..
Come on Liberal.. you can HATE better then this..

diva's picture
Submitted by diva on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 5:29pm.

I did not see you use "splainin" when I used it above! Creepy isn't it?

S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 5:31pm.

Unfortunately it also shows our age...Eye-wink

hutch866's picture
Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 4:45pm.

It just makes her eligible for a cabinet post. Not owing anymore then she does, she can always have the equivalent of Geithner's job, what else is available?

I yam what I yam....Popeye

S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Wed, 02/18/2009 - 9:30pm.

at a pack of dogs and the hit ones always yelp..

Submitted by 1bighammer on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 4:02pm.


diva's picture
Submitted by diva on Wed, 02/18/2009 - 6:12pm.

To imply this all happened in the last three weeks.......

Submitted by lifeinptc on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 4:29pm.

it did all happen in the last three weeks. But remember he had six weeks to prepare to do it. It took everyone else six minutes to realize it has all been a mistake.

S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 4:39pm.

You can have it printed on parchment paper and signed by GOD.. and it would still be disbelieved... No amount of evidence that Obama is a Socialist and those around him are at best inept and at worse corrupt will convince the Choir that their Preacher is anything but a Saint.. It's part of the "Bush Derangement" Syndrome.. the hatred has so blinded them that the Truth can not possibly be recognized.. You know "anybody is better then that last one" mentality.. be careful what you say here.. you'll be called a NAZI for saying it in no time at all...

diva's picture
Submitted by diva on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 5:31pm.

Now I suppose you'll do the pig singing thing?

S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 5:34pm.

Just like the next guy..Shocked (Australia's Outback)what were you thinking.. and I am too tired for singing lessons today.. Been on the road too long and really just want to get an adult beverage and veg...

diva's picture
Submitted by diva on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 5:53pm.

A few miles west.... About 2000 your time I'll tip the bottle up, and toast to you and all who have a bit of cleaning up and insurance adjusting to do. Cheers, and good luck!

Submitted by MrBeef on Wed, 02/18/2009 - 10:26pm.

hmmmm, thinking you must have the small brain, this list looks pretty good to me, and yes, most of it happened in the last three weeks. Do you not watch the news? Or do you just believe the Bull they feed you on MSNBC.

Submitted by skyspy on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 3:44pm.

They covered it yesterday from 11am - 4pm.

diva's picture
Submitted by diva on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 11:33am.

If the list looks good, help me out with it:

Tell me about the "move to silence talk radio critics."

If a cowardly GOP Senator offers himself for Sec of Commerce, then loses his spine, what does that have to do with PResident?

Did millions of people just now become dependent on government due to an instantaneous economic change, or a downturn that started over a year ago, although it was denied for a year by fiscal conservatives?

Politicized Census? Do you think that under the previous administration they did not pick and choose whom and what to count, wrt illegal aliens? Really?

Medical service rationing? When, where, and how did it start?

Welfare to middle income Americans? Well, what did you call Pres. Bush's 600 stimulus gift?

Help me out mr where's the beef

Submitted by skyspy on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 3:42pm.

There is a big difference, he didn't quit until he saw all of the "no plan plan" then he decided to quit. Who could blame him?

There are some people who don't see socialism as a solution for anything, except prosperity and quality products.

I have to get back to work so all of the socialism parasites can continue to sit back and scratch themselves and do nothing.

diva's picture
Submitted by diva on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 5:48pm.

Lifeinptc, I trust you've cleaned up on aisle three after searching the internet for those Palin photo shops.

To the point though. Amoebas don't analyze. They react to stimuli.

If you run anything anti Obama up the flagpole, you will always have a faithful group who react before they even analyze whether they are saluting truth or political hogwash.

Case in point, I ask follow up questions, but all of the replies sans skyspys are up at my amoeba line. Why no point by point answers? Let's dig in:

Skyspy, what changed in the week between Judd Gregg offering himself in the spirit of bi-partisanship and his withdrawal? Don't just make stuff up. What changed? Y'all have been telling us that President Obama is a "socialist" since he was an Illinois Senator. Did Gregg not get those memos? Was he just "sitting back scratching himself" and not paying attention? What are TAXPAYERS paying him to do? Not influence policies?

The politics of census taking:
The census has been politicized since 1910! Are conservatives just now admitting this? this started three weeks ago? That is a laughable and FALSE assertion.

Medical service rationing? When, where, and how did it start? Tell us. Don't just cut and paste internet fodder.

Millions of middle classers "dependent on government?" Why? When did this happen? Was it an instant? A process? Tell us.

Hand outs of welfare to America's middle class? What did you call the previous administration's $600 checks? And if you call it welfare, how did that start three weeks ago?

Guys, if you want to ever be the majority party ever again, you might actually consider bringing forth ideas; or not. I've made it clear that it suits me fine that you champion abstinence for thee but not me Palin and sit on the sidelines watching your party's "no" votes trampled by democrats and bi-partisan republicans.

Just don't expect us all to fall in line with what you guys "liberally" refer to as TRUTH.

Middle class welfare just started?

Fred Garvin's picture
Submitted by Fred Garvin on Fri, 02/20/2009 - 8:50am.

Great Cartoon...


Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 02/20/2009 - 8:15am.

It's easy to see that he does not like obama's full plan. There is nothing to make up.

He said in one of the press conferences that once he saw the whole plan he could not go along with it. So he did the right thing and resigned instead of staying on and acting as a detractor to the president.

Have a good day.

diva's picture
Submitted by diva on Fri, 02/20/2009 - 4:07pm.

Lifeinptc: I smelled blood. The posts were reflexive, amoeba-like reflexes to that smell. Whatchagonnado?

Sky: Beat this horsey dead did we? On a weirder note, why would anyone ever give a chimp zanex?

Why would you kiss a chimp on the mouth?

Why would you get a chimp drunk?

That has to be the strangest story I have heard in years and years, and now the woman needs a face transplant?

Friends don't let friends give monkeys anti depressants.

hutch866's picture
Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 02/20/2009 - 5:07pm.

A few years ago I went on a service call at the end of Redwine Road and this guy in addition to his horses had an ape of some kind, not a monkey but not as large as a chimp, there I was working on the a/c when I saw what I thought was a kid at first climbing over the gate to his fence, it turns out to be his ape who he promised wouldn't hurt me. Well the little devil didn't hurt me but as we were leaving the back yard the little sob reached out and grabbed my foot and tripped me, like I need help looking foolish. Needless to say I would have been glad to put the devil to sleep myself

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Tug13's picture
Submitted by Tug13 on Sat, 02/21/2009 - 10:38am.

I knew that little Monkey, and his name wasn't SOB. Sometimes it should have been though. Eye-wink

Hope you and your family are well!

Tug Smiling

hutch866's picture
Submitted by hutch866 on Sat, 02/21/2009 - 10:49am.

Do you know what kind of ape it was? Strong little thing, although not so little actually.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Tug13's picture
Submitted by Tug13 on Sat, 02/21/2009 - 10:56am.

Spider monkey.

Tug Smiling

zoes's picture
Submitted by zoes on Fri, 02/20/2009 - 4:13pm.

"Friends don't let friends give monkeys anti depressants."

Now THAT is a good tagline!


"Never love anything that can't love you back."

Submitted by lifeinptc on Fri, 02/20/2009 - 7:26am.

My posts were a joke intended to chill everyone out. There are alot of people in this venue who take their opinions, and themselves, way too seriously. It's bad for your health not to laugh every once-and-awhile. It also makes you appear more human.

Submitted by MrBeef on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 9:45pm.

You OBVIOUSLY are one of the Obama is the masiah lovers, he will save us as only government CAN save us.

We all need to fall in line behind you and agree that Bush and the Republicans screwed up our economy and the government is the solution.

As we have been told by Palosi and Reid, THEY WON, get over it.

Years from now, when all this spending has not worked on top of all the spending they are yet to do, people like you will STILL be blaming Bush for our problems.

You obviously are a diva, you can't handle the beef baby.

Submitted by Davids mom on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 12:03am.

What will you do when some of these ideas begin to work? Are you still going to cry foul? I wonder what is going to happen to those Republican leaders who refuse the money from 'government' to create jobs, keep teachers working, etc., etc., etc. What is your plan for Main Street America - without 'government' money? Mr. Beef, that money is OUR money - and we need it to get this economy on the rode to recovery. Obama has an ability to appear to reach across the aisle. Republicans are being viewed as obstructionists and uncooperative - since they have not offered to support the ideas that the Governor from Louisiana stated are 'Republican' ideas i.e. tax cuts, energy improvement, etc., etc., Obama has stated that his plan will hopefully cut the deficit in four years. Do the Republicans want to do all they can to make sure he doesn't achieve this? Hmmmmm.

diva's picture
Submitted by diva on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 10:30pm.

Answer ANY of my questions.

Show me where ANY democrat has referred to President Obama as the "messiah."

Show me where I blamed "it all" on Bush. Heck! Half of this stuff doesn't even have substance. How can it be blamed on anyone?

Show me where I said fall in line. What I said was Don't make stuff up.

Big difference.

Beef, you said the list looked good to you. Can't you give any references to support your claims? Can't you answer my straight forward question? Support your claims. Commooonnn!

Again, I repeat. There are REASONS your way of thinking has lost two national elections.

Please continue to ignore those reasons.

Fred Garvin's picture
Submitted by Fred Garvin on Tue, 02/24/2009 - 12:46pm.

Diva: "Show me where ANY democrat has referred to President Obama as the "messiah."

Here's one....Farrakhan on Obama: 'The Messiah is absolutely speaking'

It could be argued that this fruitball was referring to Obama as "O gracious God" Townhall Video

The United States of America
July 4, 1776 - Jan 20, 2009
Rest in Peace

S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 7:24am.

Editor of Newsweek Magazine.. "He is above America.. He is above the World.. in many ways He is GOD"

Do you wonder where the RIGHT got the Messiah tag line here you go.. Another example of MSM in the tank toking on the pipe and drinking the koolaid..

Obama is GOD Link

""If you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world," Barrack Obama

I will not lower my standards.. So UP YOURS..Evil

Submitted by merrilyn on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 9:24am.

And he said tell the "blogger bully" S.Lindsey that his meds are ready for pickup at Wal-Mart. That wasn't President Obama, in case you wanted to ask.
It is hard to get in to say anything because it's so clogged up with your nonsense. So I am entertained from outside the room by the clown. Why don't you do as one of your friends asked you to do....leave the rubbish out and make your points with decent and respectful posts? And most of all stop lying.
Your standards couldn't get any lower, so you can easily see what is up yours. Wow...that was good.

BTW muddle...I love Eric Clapton too. He will come to Atlanta soon and I want tickets. He will always be awesome.

muddle's picture
Submitted by muddle on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 8:19am.

This is wrong.

Eric Clapton is God.

eodnnaenaj1's picture
Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 8:53am.

Now there is something we have in common, Eric Clapton. Sad to say, I remember Eric Clapton and the Cream . . .durn if that doesn't say how old I am. On along trip driving out west listened to Clapton all the way out there and back, like to have worn that cassette out . . .oops another age clue.

Hope y'all are doing well. How was that Florida trip?

muddle's picture
Submitted by muddle on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 9:58am.

Have you seen the recent work Clapton has been doing with Steve Winwood? I caught some on PBS a few evenings ago. Terrific! (Derek Trucks is a part of the lineup in the linked clip.)

The Florida trip was great, as usual. We return for round two in a couple of weeks.

eodnnaenaj1's picture
Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 10:03am.

Yes I did catch some of that program, yes, really terrific.

Florida again in a couple of weeks! How very nice for you.

Submitted by MacTheKnife on Tue, 06/09/2009 - 9:30am.

Not that I was ever a fan.....

JeffC's picture
Submitted by JeffC on Tue, 02/24/2009 - 5:05pm.

The only time Farrakhan tried to join a political party it was the GOP.

Farrakhan bid to GOP

S. Lindsey's picture
Submitted by S. Lindsey on Tue, 02/24/2009 - 5:14pm.

I mean really.. you really want to assert that??

JeffC's picture
Submitted by JeffC on Tue, 02/24/2009 - 6:19pm.

The only time he tried to join a political party is was the Republican Party. Robert Novak wanted him in but was overruled.

Here's an interview he did with NBC:

NBC interview with Min. Farrakhan

He doesn't like Clinton or Lieberman and he wants to break the link between blacks and the Democratic Party.

TR: Black Americans voted overwhelmingly, nine out of 10, for Bill Clinton.

MLF: Yes.

TR: Is that a good thing?

MLF: No, it is not. I feel that our people, who were once Republicans, were very loyal to the Republican Party because of what Abraham Lincoln did. When Franklin Delano Roosevelt came up with the New Deal during the Depression and Black folk found in him a person who was sensitive to the needs of the poor, they left the Republican Party and became Democrats. Now, Black people are taken for granted in the Democratic Party and not even sought after in the Republican Party. But there is a substantial vote that must not be taken for granted by either party, and we hope to break up that as well.

He's a Republican.

He and Fred are fellow travelers.

Fred Garvin's picture
Submitted by Fred Garvin on Tue, 02/24/2009 - 11:15pm.

Jeff - Prove the Calypso Louie is a Republican. You can't.

However, I would be very surprised if Farrakhan didn't vote for barry, which would make him a Democrat.

After all, Calypso Louie was the one that Barack Obama's Church of 20 years honored.

Face it, there are many libs out there that think that he is the messiah. They are so easily decieved.

The United States of America
July 4, 1776 - Jan 20, 2009
Rest in Peace

JeffC's picture
Submitted by JeffC on Tue, 02/24/2009 - 11:30pm.

I don't have to prove anything at all. Farrakhan tried to join the Republican Party. It was widely reported. I've cited the records. You were the one claiming that he was a Democrat contrary to all of the available documented evidence. The burden of proof is entirely yours to back up your assertion. He's just another example of a Republican or Republican wannabe claiming Obama is the messiah. Just like you do. It seems perfectly logical to me that y'all are birds of a feather flocking together.

We're still waiting for you to produce a Democrat that has claimed Obama is the messiah.

Another statement that you can't back up.

We're getting used to that.

Fred Garvin's picture
Submitted by Fred Garvin on Tue, 02/24/2009 - 11:37pm.

Again, if it makes you feel better, go ahead and go on with the dillusional thought that Calypso Louie votes Republican. You dems seem to like living in a fantasy world, the kind where people think that government spending taxpayer money can solve all of America's problems.

Just remember, barry was a 20-year member of the hate-filled, racist church that honored Farrakhan.

The United States of America
July 4, 1776 - Jan 20, 2009
Rest in Peace

JeffC's picture
Submitted by JeffC on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 12:04am.

My sorrow was because of your fundamental misunderstanding of the facts.

Instead, you drag out the sad old worn out guilt by association argument gain. Obama's church did something and so Obama is, ipso facto, in lock step agreement despite his statements to the contrary. Suits me if that's the leg you're trying to stand on since the overwhelming evidence is that the vast majority of the American never did and never will buy that losing argument.

Are you giving up trying to prove your claim that Farrakhan is a Democrat like you said or are you just waiting for enough time to pass for us to forget you ever made it.

Fred Garvin's picture
Submitted by Fred Garvin on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 12:14am.

The issue is that there is a person, Farrakhan, probably a democrat based on his speech claiming the Obama is the messiah.

You have failed to prove that Louie is a republican, so I really don't have to prove anything to you. His words seem to indicate that he is a democrat, and that is good enough for me. If that bothers you, then too bad.

The fact that Obama was a member of the hate-filled racist church is even more relevant now because it gives us insight into why he wants to turn America into a Socialist country.

The United States of America
July 4, 1776 - Jan 20, 2009
Rest in Peace

JeffC's picture
Submitted by JeffC on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 9:52am.

Why would I care? I'm used to these circular arguments from you. You fabricate a claim that Farrakhan is a Democrat to bolster one of your arguments, then when you're called on it we've now gotten to the, “... so I really don't have to prove anything to you... “ stage from you again, which is what your arguments typically degenerate to.

I'm fully willing to accept that. However, it would be refreshing and astonishing if just once you could prove one of your claims with some type of real evidence.

Fred Garvin's picture
Submitted by Fred Garvin on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 1:20pm.

"Oh God" Heard From MSNBC Set As Gov. Jindal Appears for GOP Response

As Louisana Gov. Bobby Jindal approached the camera to deliver the GOP response to Pres. Obama last night, someone on the MSNBC set whispered "Oh God." But the whisper was loud enough to be heard by all 3 people who were watching MSNBC.

The United States of America
July 4, 1776 - Jan 20, 2009
Rest in Peace

Main Stream's picture
Submitted by Main Stream on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 1:49pm.

That "oh god" uttered was the overall opinion from most who viewed Jindal's response last night. Poor guy looked so frightened and scrawny as he channeled Mr. Rogers with his goofy childhood stories. It was embarassing.

Really? Jindal is the "Great *non* White Hope" the Repub's are trotting out to the masses? He's just another tool.

Oh, this is going to be fun! Laughing out loud

JeffC's picture
Submitted by JeffC on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 4:10pm.

This is the hope of the Republican Party??? That may have been the worse political speech I've ever heard and I've heard a few. It was awful, awful, awful. I nearly fell off my couch laughing about his Katrina remarks. Just simply cringe invoking embarrassingly bad.

Submitted by Davids mom on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 12:43am.

Farrakhan quoted in context during his speech, said, "Sen. Obama is not the Messiah for sure, but anytime, he gives you a sign of uniting races, ethnic groups, ideologies, religions and makes people feel a sense of oneness, that’s not necessarily Satan’s work, that is I believe the work of God."

Submitted by MrBeef on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 10:55pm.

I did not say the Democrats said he was the messiah, his supporters and followers believe that. He IS their savior.

And your right, half of this stuff doesn't have anything to do with bush, the stuff on the list says "change we can believe in" it's a joke, many of the things they say Bush did wrong, are continueing and other changes are for the worse.

lost two national elections? I would guess you are referring to democrats regaining control, for now, in 2006.

The democrats took a bigger majority, NOT because people are against the republicans, most of these races were narrow wins and these democrats rode the coat tails of Obama supporters. Here is where I get called a racist, the black supporters that put him over the top also got those democrats in. I give you proof, 600,000 African Americans were registered to vote in FL for the last election and none of them voted, this time they did, why, for one of their own, and in doing that across the country, they got more democrats elected. If it had been Hillary and NOT Obama, your party would not be in power today.

yardman5508's picture
Submitted by yardman5508 on Wed, 02/18/2009 - 9:02pm.

you really got fred pegged with that amoeba comment. Keep the faith.

carbonunit52's picture
Submitted by carbonunit52 on Wed, 02/18/2009 - 8:15pm.

in addition to absurd fixations equals one loyal rightwinger.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I become more lovable every day."

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.