County may ditch defined benefits pension plan

Tue, 02/03/2009 - 4:39pm
By: John Munford

A committee studying a defined benefits pension plan for Fayette County employees is recommending that all the plan proposals be rejected so it can continue looking at “multi-employer plan options.”

That marks a sharp reversal for the controversial pension proposal originally favored by a majority of the current county commission.

The recommendation will be discussed, and perhaps voted on, by the commission at its workshop meeting Wednesday afternoon at 3:30.

The pension plan concept has come under fire by some county residents who claim it would cost the county a significant amount of money in the future.

County officials have said switching from the current retirement plan would actually save the county $550,000 a year because it would lower the obligation the county would pay for each employee’s retirement. Employees would be required to contribute 2.5 percent of their salary to the plan, officials have said.

“The committee has taken very seriously the charge from the Board of Commissioners to critically evaluate the various proposals and to recommend a provider which is best suited to serve both our dedicated county employees as well as one which is responsible to our governing body and to the citizens they represent,” the committee’s memo said.

The recommendation to scrap all proposals submitted by vendors was unanimous among the committee, which consists of senior staff members.

Pensions are generally structured to provide a lifetime benefit based on a certain percentage of an employee’s salary at their retirement. That percentage is also based on an employee’s total years of service.

Under Fayette’s proposal, an employee will receive a monthly pension equal to 1.5 percent of their monthly salary multiplied by the number of years worked for the county with a maximum total of 45 percent. There is also no cost of living provision in the pension plan.

The county’s proposal would give no credit for prior years of service but instead employees would earn their service credit starting from the time the plan is implemented.

According to county officials, other details of the defined benefits plan include:

• Full vesting after five full years of employment with the county ... if the employee doesn’t make it five years they forfeit the rights to any retirement benefit; and retirement eligibility is reached at 65 years old;

• The monthly retirement benefit is equal to 1.5 percent of their salary for each year of county service with a maximum of 30 years;

• The maximum retirement benefit is 45 percent of an employee’s pre-retirement salary;

• The county will only be contributing 3.8 percent of salaries to the defined benefits plan as opposed to 4 percent under the current retirement plan structure;

• If for some reason the county’s contribution to the defined benefits plan increases, the county will reduce by that amount the contributions to the defined contribution plan that will remain; and

• The funds are required to be audited annually.

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Submitted by NeedtoKnow on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 7:14pm.

As a county employee and a taxpayer, I would like for them to keep the current plan. Not that they care what the employees think... they sent a survey around way back when, asking the employees if they wanted the defined benefits plan to be explored. The majority said yes... for exploration, not saying they wanted it for sure. As an employee, I don't want it because it "requires" the employee to contribute 2%. As a taxpayer, I don't want it because of the long-term obligations.

If they're looking to save, how about reducing the amount the county currently contributes to the employee's 401k? Say, from 4% to 3% or whatever?

Submitted by Bill the Cat on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 10:20pm.

First of all, as a county employee ( which I am) you are not stating the facts correctly. The question was asked if the employees wanted a defined benefits plan? 99% of all Fayette County employees answered yes. Only a hand full answered no. The plan calls for us to contribute 2.5% of our checks into the program. We will only be collecting 1.5% back plus our years. You obviously have one of those grass cutting or office jobs and feel that you don't have to worry about your retirement. Maybe your wife has a cush retirement you plan on living on. The defined benefits plan guarantees a future for the rest of us front line workers that risk our lives every day to keep you safe. We train harder than you, work harder than you, and pay the consequences by having back problems, knee problems, broken bones, and various other exposure problems. When we retire from our careers all we have is our retirement to survive on. We devote our lives to protect the citizens of this county. We miss birthdays, holidays, happy moments in our childrens lives to provide this protection. Why do we do that? We are people who care for the little guy, protect the innocent, risk our lives to help others all because we care and believe in people. For us here in the county, these people we believe in are the citizens of Fayette County. So is it to much to ask for a decent retirement that we can depend on? Sorry you don't probably agree with my comments; but you walk in our shoes and depend on our retirements alone with all the health issues we will face and tell me if you feel comfortable. Speaking for myself personally, I think I am fortunate enough to help and protect a great place. i think most of the citizens of Fayette Co. appreciate that they have some of the best public safety services in our state and don't mind us having a dependable retirement. To those people I say thank you! And to you Mr. Needtoknow, when your day comes and you need help; We will be there. We will do everything within our power to help you and protect you. I know you will never appreciate that comment until you really need us. But ask your neighbors that have needed us and we came, or the neighbors that sleep underneath the blanket of protection we provide how much they all appreciate what we do!

Bill the Cat

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Submitted by tizz on Wed, 02/04/2009 - 3:47am.

Bill, your job description sounds like mine in the military before I retired from it back in 93. We keep having benies taken away from us year after year. Lots of us old timers were told we would get free med and dental if we stayed in until retirement. Now, one has to join the "insurance plan" and most of us do not have any dental coverage at all.

Sorry for digressing. You deserve what you have earned and I wish the best for all of ya.


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