MacDuff tunnel a cure for Cedarcroft path woes?

Tue, 02/03/2009 - 4:28pm
By: John Munford

PTC may spend $14K to design connection, allow closing of problematic path

Drawing up a potential solution to cart path-related woes in the Cedarcroft subdivision will be up for a vote Thursday night by the Peachtree City Council.

Council is being asked to spend $14,240 to fund design of a path connection from a tunnel that would be bored underneath MacDuff Parkway to the commercial area on Ga. Highway 54 West.

Mike Rossetti of Ravin Homes, the Cedarcroft developer, indicated to Mayor Harold Logsdon that if the city would fund the design work he would consider funding the construction of the project, according to a city memo on the proposal.

Residents of the neighborhood have complained that the path is used at all hours of the night at times because it leads directly to the 24-hour Walmart store, and also that some cart drivers speed through the neighborhood and use foul language.

The recommendation is for the design funding to come from the city council contingency fund, which would decrease to $27,660 if approved.

The tunnel, if completed, would provide an alternate path to the stores.

The City Council was asked in November to allow Ravin Homes to remove the path but voted against doing so. Several council members said they had discomfort in removing a path that is so well used.

Had the path been removed, cart path traffic would have been forced to circumvent Cedarcroft and would be forced onto MacDuff Parkway to reach the stores, officials said.

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Submitted by mthom5436 on Wed, 02/04/2009 - 11:09am.

Those paths were in place when these people bought their homes. I agree that the paths through Cedarcroft were poorly designed to begin with, but that doesn't make it a city problem. If the residents alondg this path are so upset why don't they get together and foot the bill themselves. How many houses are we talking about? 10, 20 30. $1000 or $2000 dollars a piece would go a long way towards resolving this. At the very least I think they could come up with a plan to help carry the cost. Maybe we do this in thirds; the city, the developer and the residents.

Submitted by ptcmom678 on Wed, 02/04/2009 - 8:50am.

Or to get you to list your house...another can of worms. Look, if you are dumb enough to believe a real estate agent AND dumb enough not to look at the neighborhood you are thinking about moving into you deserve what you get, and I am not willing to pay for your stupidity. Yo heard of something called a future land-use plan available on-line?!? When I was in the market for my last house, there were some that I rejected mostly because they were too close to a golf cart path. There was one that was on the way to Braelinn shopping center that I didn't even tour because I knew that golf cart path would be used too heavily all the time due to the 24 hour Kroger. I wonder if these people might not be trying to sell their house, and getting a lot of people saying that the heavily-used path is one reason they don't want to buy the house. Not to be cynical or anything. By the way, for those poor Cedarcroft homeowners' benefit - 'prevaricate' means to dance around the truth without outright dishonesty.

Submitted by ATLtoPTC on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 5:16pm.

I have a real problem with this....... I don't think that the city, a city that already has serious budget issues, should have to pay for ANY of the costs associated with redirecting the cart path. While I feel badly for the homeowners who are experiencing problems with the cart paths, I also believe in the concept of caveat emptor. When they bought those homes, the cart paths were already there. I have always thought that those cart paths were entirely too close to the homes. Why on earth anyone would build a house practically ON a cart path much less BUY a house practically on a cart path? It leaves me scratching my head! The construction of those homes was an error in judgment (or greed, since the builder obviously didn't want to give up any extra land to reasonably space the houses from the paths) by the builder, and an error in judgment by each buyer. Really - did those buyers not think there would be noise and litter coming off those paths? And shame on them for believing some verbal assurance from the selling agents that the paths would be removed. Either get it in writing, or know that that verbal statement is about as good as a swampland salesman telling you that the area is normally nice and dry - yeah right.

For what it's worth, when we first moved to Peachtree City, we lived in a house with a cart path in the backyard. Unlike Cedarcroft, our house at least had a decent buffer between the house and the path. Yes, we heard noises from the path at all hours, but at least it wasn't RIGHT OUTSIDE our windows (did the buyers really think there wouldn't be noise???). I hear the trains at all hours, too, and oftentimes sirens, and so on - living in a community means there will be NOISE. Don't buy a house with a path 2 feet outside your window and not expect more than your share of *noise*. Also, we had occasional littering in our backyard. Sorry, but people drop trash - sometimes by accident, and often out of sheer rudeness. You know what we did - we picked it up. Once again - it's part of living in a community. Picking up the occasional soda can, beer bottle, and/or piece of paper didn't do us any harm.

I'll admit that it does sound like some of the homeowners are getting more than their fair share of trash and vandalism, which begs the question - have they yelled at and/or had confrontations with some of the rude teenagers on the cart paths? I neither condone nor excuse vandalism, but I do know that teenagers can be, well, awful, and if you provoke them, they are likely to retaliate - and tell their friends. "Hey, that guy at such-and-such house just yelled at me and ticked me off. Let's go trash his yard!" Is it not true, from some of your youthful days, that the dad who yelled and made a big stink about catching some kids toilet papering his house would then get TP'ed repeatedly?? It's a sad truth.

I do not think that the city should have to pay to correct the mistake of a foolish and/or greedy builder and similarly foolish home buyers. Ravin homes should have to pay to move the path if the builder wants to keep his customers happy - especially since some of the selling agents told lies about the paths being moved to "seal the deal" on the sale of the homes. The rest of us in PTC aren't having a problem getting to/from that particular shopping center on the paths, so I don't think we should have to help foot the bill to move the path. It works for me; I don't need to fix it! If Ravin homes wants to pay to move the path - more power to them, and I'll happily use the new path instead of the old path. Also, I have lived on a cart path and dealt with it - so move or deal with it if Ravin won't pay for a new path.

Caveat emptor, baby... Let the buyer beware.

Submitted by 123PTCStreet on Wed, 02/04/2009 - 10:08am.

The root of the problem here is not high golf cart path traffic, it is criminal behavior on the golf cart paths of Peachtree City. Speeding on a golf cart is against the law. Intentionally littering in someone’s yard is against the law. Vandalizing a person’s home is against the law. Throwing objects at a homeowner’s pets is against the law. To ignore this criminal behavior by blaming the victims does not solve the real problem. Homeowners should not have to feel intimidated by these criminals. To say that we should not be disciplining the offenders for fear of “provoking them” is the reason we have this problem to begin with!

I have lived in much more crowded and congested quarters than my home (located within 10 feet of a golf cart path) in Peachtree City, and not had the severity of problems that I am subject to here, and no, I don’t live in a “not so nice” area of Peachtree City. These golf cart path problems should not be dismissed as a normal part of city life.

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