No way they let a competitor of any kind come into that space. Good economy or bad..they won't let it happen.

Let's not say "It won't happen". Depending on the wording in the lease, Kroger may be obligated to make every effort to fill the space with another food store. I have seen this with a great number of shopping centers. Typically the replacement is never a major chain or a viable threat to the outgoing store.
Some viable options might be

A 99 cent store - before I get jumped on for this one. I can name you at least 2 dozen cities which are similar in demographics to what PTC is or use to be that they thrive in.

A Food Depot - A discount grocery store by any other name. These stores typically sell items which did well in the traditional store or can no longer be sold in one (ie. Wheaties Box with picture 2008 World Series Champions comes off the shelf in favor of 2009 Super Bowl champions)

Aldi - Anyone who has been to one knows this in no way is any serious competition.

However, I would love it if an Aldi came there. Great prices, best place for German beer and chocolates since World Market shut down. Actually it's gotten so it HAS primarily replaced Kroger as my main grocery store.

The owners of Aldi and Trader Joes are brothers.

And you're right, the lease wording will have something to do with the tenant....an anchor helps the other smaller tenants in the center greatly.

Remember the "Harry's in a Hurry" in The Avenues in what is now a book store? We frequented it and thought it was doing well, but when Whole Foods bought Harry's Farmer's Market, they decided to close it.

oh fayetteville is so far away from PTC being a whole 10-15 minutes LOL.

The last time I went there I told my daughter "As God as my witness, I will never go there again." Just mentioning Chucky Cheese makes my skin crawl. Someone not been there? It's like a noisy Vegas casino with little kids hopped-up on sugar running every which way.

CC is one of the reasons we have "wild" kids nowadays. Parents can go and chat while the kids learn vandalism among other things.

These same kids can wreck another's house and the parents do not care when they visit! Amazing.
Never have seen such laziness and ignoring of one's children!

They are not taught table manners nor how and what to eat---so they eat sweets just before meals often!

This also is to keep them busy and not require supervision
and training.
Absentee Fathers and working Mothers cause much of this. They don't want to upset the kids, what little time they dedicate to them!

Nitpicker, From reading your post would I be correct in assuming that you are some dried old prune who sits on his balcony and screams at the children playing below because they are disturbing you sitting there thinking about how pathetic your life is?
My daughter had a birthday party over this past weekend and I was amazed how well mannered most of those children were. Yes, they were loud but at their age, I would be very concerned if they sat there perfectly quiet and were not allowed to enjoy themselves. Children go to places like Chuck E Cheese to play and have a good time just as someone such yourself likes to go to Kroger and drink their coffee & eat pastries and talk with your friends about how life stinks and how much it was better in your days.
My children have friends over all the time and neither my wife or I have yet have to repair anything or get loud because they were doing things they shouldn't be.
Lastly, just because you were raised not have manners and eat properly or this is how you chose to raise your children does not mean everyone else is this way.

I've got well-mannered kids, and my husband and I have long since agreed that we will never host a Chuck E. Cheese party, and don't really like going there. Why? It IS noisy, and I think that's got as much to do with the way the building's set up. There also isn't that much supervision. It gets nuts trying to find ten little bodies going every which way when you're supervising a party there.
The jumping places have as many kids, and the noise level isn't as great. Their parties are also better-managed and supervised. You may not agree with people, but well-mannered people don't need to make personal attacks to get their point across. Attack the words, not the person!!

I won't argue with you that Chuck E. Cheese is not a great place for adults nor would I ever host a party there (for the same reasons). My child has not been to a "jumping" party yet but we have done a few spirit nights there. The big difference I see is parties at Chuck E. Cheese are done during normal business hours and it can get hectic rather quickly. Place like Jump 2 it have set party times during non business hours which makes things easier to control. I also noticed that during spirit nights parents were required to stay with their children and that also can make a huge difference on behavior.

It is hard to raise kids with the above talents. I know.

There is a vast difference in kids playing and kids hurting and destroying, and with NO table manners!
Many nowadays have rarely eaten a meal at the table because they don't know how without disturbing everybody there!

If you haven't seen it then you aren't looking!

If raised that way they continue into adulthood with ill-tempered and ignorant manners! It is your duty to do this.

Take the kids to JUMPING JELLY BEANS, 135 Huddleston RD, PTC

Is this another place to let them run wild while you yap?

Yes, another place that allows children to run free and enjoy themselves. Some parents do use the time to socialize just as I am sure parents did when they took you to the park when you were a child.
Try and think back for a moment what it was like when you were a child! Chances are you were left to play outside by yourself or at a friends house or the park without any adult supervision. What rotten parents you must have had to allow you to go outside and roam the streets on your own!

Fairly decent supervision, but I have a great time sliding with mine. You have to supervise your own kids at the jumping places - there's too many there to be able to depend on the teen attendants. Jumping Jelly Bean's pretty good, but they do need to refill their Jelly Belly containers a little more often;)

Jumping Jelly beans ROCKS,,,,I hope they will take over the old kroger site and make it a GIANT JELLY BEAN...

I'm in the store all the time....I have no idea what you are talking about. I recommend you continue to roam in your own area.

You must not have shopped when Janet was the check-out clerk or Robert who bags groceries. Both of them have been there a long time. They're both great. I'll miss them.

You must have moved here after Hudson's closed. It was in Aberdeen shopping center. My first job was bagging groceries there. It was a nice little store in the 70's and early 80's. Had a nice meat dept. too.

Makes you wonder what Kroger's plans are since they won't reveal them. Guess the memory of what happened last time is too fresh. Would love a Whole Foods or Trader Joe's. Kroger probably wouldn't want competition from another grocery. They sure went all out with Kedron Kroger---more wine than most wine shops carry. Didn't know there were that may wine drinkers among us.

I remember Hudson's very fondly--very nice people.

Guess we will have to wait and see.

Kroger probably has another thrift store or Goodwill lined up again and are keeping it a secret until it is too late for PTC to fight it off.

A thrift store is still better than a big empty building. And if people want to tear the building down and make a park I say go for it as long as PTC pays kroger for the building.

I spoke with the folks at Whole Foods corporate office and they concluded about a year ago that we had the wrong demographic in PTC, did not pull from enough zip codes and the retail market trend in PTC was headed down...not up. I received basically the same news from Trader Joes (although they were much more upbeat about it). Chipotle told me the same thing last winter when I looked at opening a franchise here in PTC. I guess the glory days of retail in PTC are over...bring on the Big Lots.

That's the only issue. It's a catch 22...I enjoy the low density of Fayette County in general, but we can't bitch and moan when certain stores won't even consider the area.

This town was desiged on the village concept. Everyone should have their local grocery store.
This one turned out to be a real piece of work. I can think of very few grocery stores with such bad selection and poor quality. The back row used to be an entire run of floor coolers and freezers. Now it's the place to find piles of toys and BBQ grills. I'm sorry sir we don't carry flat leaf parsley. We don't have the room. By the way you haven't bought you weekly lawn table set yet. It would help our density problem, you see.
I don't disagree on other chains feeling we don't fit their stats. I doubt we ever did. We are rather unique. However Kroger has failed us with a lousy rendition of a store. The landlord will fail us if he allows the food concept to be replaced by something different. The city will have failed us for allowing such a breach in our village concept.

You nailed it Spyglass. You can't have it both ways.
Density means enough people shop to support a store.
Less density means fewer people to support the same store.
Fewer people means less in store revenue and less in taxes.

So what do we do?

Don't confuse me with that guy.

We could have had a enough room for whole foods, but instead we have acres of empty retail space and no trees. People don't pay high dollar to live amongst empty ugly strip malls.

Teeter tried it with fancy foods here---total failure.
Way too expensive and not nearly enough fools and their money!
Even those with the money only bought what Kroger didn't have!!!

I think we should open a Bloomingdales, or a Richs, (bring en back) or a Macy's, or a Cadillac Dealership--now that is prestige!

Through out this post many people have argued against the possible success of Trade Joes or Whole foods due to the fact that Harry's and Teeter's have both failed before. I have never been to a whole foods but I have been to a Trader Joe's. Trader Joe's is a much different concept than Harry’s. It is almost specifically designed for people cooking for two. I think that concept would be great in PTC for retired people with no kids and young people like my fiancée and I with no kids. I find that it’s incredibly difficult to cook for two at Kroger and Publix. Every thing is portioned for 4 or more. Half the time when we cook it works out that it would have been cheaper to go out.

Trader Joe's is not interested in coming to PTC. I did hear they have looked at Newnan. As for smaller portions. The meat dept will cut them for you.

Greenspace with trees and wooded lots are what many people want. It is the only reason I moved here.

Let's just bulldoze the empty shops, and plant trees. We could make it festive. Have a citizen planting day. Working together we could get our city back.

You know I've always said if I won a big lottery I'd love to buy up some areas around town and make them parks. I say big community garden - free tomatoes and peppers in exchange for help in planting them! It'd never happen but it's nice to daydream about.

say when.

Now we need a few more people who like trees more than empty stores.

Stop the commercial developments that are empty. Ahh so frustrating.

If Coweta County doesn't want it - bring it on! You could park at the Chinese place, put your order in, walk down to the Starship Superstore, pick an order up and be home and done with dinner and dessert before Idol! Heck yeah!

That's an excellent idea, but sadly, the site is too close to a Peachtree City fire station and you know how easily corrupted those firefighters' morals are...
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corrupted. Guess you know our local firemen better than I do or is it speculation--or tongue in cheek? I am just glad they are there when we need them--I personally haven't needed their services, thank goodness, but it seems they respond in a timely manner and that is a good thing as Martha would say.

What is your beef with the firefighters?
Your comment is way off base and an insult both professionally and personally to every member of the department. Bet you wont be questioning their morals when they come to save you; a family member or your property.

I think a sex store and corruption fits the Police Department's M.O. a little better.

Yes it really wasn't the place to comment about the PCFD. Instead of driving the $500,000 fire truck a quarter of a mile, they will have to drive it up to Kedron or Braelinn to sort out dinner for the boys.

The changes that you will have to save that man from a fire are about the same chances that Obama will become a republican although I applaud your efforts.

They take the equiptment so when they are buying their supper if they get a call they can come save your house. Everyone want's to bash police and fire until they need them. Bash the idot's who want to put us so far indebt our greatgrand children will still be paying the bill.

What truck? What does it have to do with Kroger closing?

Actually, those trucks need to be run a couple of time per week if you are talking about firetrucks.

Keeps the engine oiled and the battery charged!

Might be good though if one drove it and the other shop!

Just for saying that about the PCFD. What are you doing but blogging? I hope your house burns down. You really need to watch what you say. That was really mean. These guys are giving thier time to help others.

I'm sure he meant it as a joke! He meant it was too close to a town employee!!!!

What on earth do people have any business griping about adult stores, nail parlors, pawn shops, title loan stores, sex shops, prostitutes, Goodwill stores (good to have now to fill Kroger store to pay taxes, don't you think?), liquor stores (oh, those are OK, I forgot), tweezer (roach) and pipe shops, Fortune tellers, Astrologers, Bars, smoking places, wing stores, car washes, gambling houses (except Sonny's), night clubs, crematoriums, hydrogen sulfide factories (we once had a chlorine producer expeller here), 500 foot smoke stacks, millions of cell phone towers, (OK), massage parlors (both kinds), chiropractors, dog kennels, dog pounds, cat cages and leashes, (all cats should be on leashes, per law), and pizza places next door!

I'm sure he meant it as a joke! He meant it was too close to a town employee!!!!

What on earth do people have any business griping about adult stores, nail parlors, pawn shops, title loan stores, sex shops, prostitutes, Goodwill stores (good to have now to fill Kroger store to pay taxes, don't you think?), liquor stores (oh, those are OK, I forgot), tweezer (roach) and pipe shops, Fortune tellers, Astrologers, Bars, smoking places, wing stores, car washes, gambling houses (except Sonny's), night clubs, crematoriums, hydrogen sulfide factories (we once had a chlorine producer expeller here), 500 foot smoke stacks, millions of cell phone towers, (OK), massage parlors (both kinds), chiropractors, dog kennels, dog pounds, cat cages and leashes, (all cats should be on leashes, per law), and pizza places next door!

I would welcome a starship and other novelty stores that support a younger demographic of people. Unless PTC lets up on there laws for retailers you will never get the choice stores and everything that goes along with it. You want a trader joes you have bring in younger home buyers. The only way to do that is to have things for younger "DINKS" to do. Dinks stands for "double income no kids". Pretty soon you will have no one wanting to move here and there go all the tax dollars.

Nightlife is practically non-existent, totally non-existent for teens, the only stores geared towards younger people are some of the clothing stores at The Avenue. Although Gypsy Warehouse, while not a novelty store, is a pretty decent mix of merchandise for younger people and older too. It's next to Plumyumi next to The Avenue. I think PTC is starting to lose the kids - they grow up here, go away to school, and never return.

I've seen them in there buying groceries many times.