As long as they limit the funding to providing contraception to liberals, I'm all for it.

Earth could use fewer moonbats like Pelosi. This woman is dangerous.

I still remember Governor "moonbeam" - Jerry Brown. What a real........... work of art that one was.
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You are correct when you say the country is drowning. But your precious barry is not throwing us a rope, he's throwing 2000 lb anvil.

His plan to rescue the economy is nothing but a bridge to bankruptcy that will do nothing but expand the Federal government and create a bunch of people that will do nothing but suck grom the government teat until it is dry.

I hear the following as answers to our crisis:

Cut income taxes; Lower taxes; Downsize government

Let's take income taxes first. No jobs, no income. No income - nothing to tax.

Next - lower taxes. Nothing to tax, therefore nothing to lower.

Downsize government: This is a biggie! At the present, our largest businesses are announcing that they are cutting jobs because they can't meet the payrolls - businesses are failing. Our small business owners are doing the same. We have MILLIONS out of work throughout our country and those who work for American companies around the world.

The Federal Government can create jobs for the people in order to improve infrastructure, energy conservation, etc. JOBS - create incomes that can be taxed that can support services that the government provides. People working can support private businesses that provide services.

I want everyone on Obama's cabinet and all those that he is asking to submit ideas, plans, etc. to get with it NOW - and work to stop this downward spiral that (who cares when and who it started) started before his administration came to power.

We usually give a president and his administration 100 days. Some here haven't given this administration 100 hours before crying failure. We, the American people, can’t afford to fail during this crisis.

To stop this spiral, we must put our people back to work. Private business can’t do it at this time. The previous government policies and practices have failed. We cannot continue down the same road. We must give ourselves one or two years to turn this journey around towards success. Stop the bitching – and start thinking!! If you have an idea/plan/strategy to halt the mess we’re in at home and around the world – share it.

I hear the following as answers to our crisis:

Cut income taxes; Lower taxes; Downsize government.

That's right. Cut taxes, corporate and individual, so that companies can afford to run a business in America. Did you even do any research before you ansered? America has some of the highest corporate taxes in the world. How are we supposed to compete with other countries for jobs when their taxes are lower. The President's plan to raise taxes will not increase jobs, it will drive more jobs out of the country.

Downsize Government - Correct! Stop sending money overseas to kill babies and end pork-barrel spending on monuments to corrupt polititicians like Charles Rangel

Let's take income taxes first. No jobs, no income. No income - nothing to tax.

There has to be a job created (by private industry, it's not the governments job to create jobs) first before there can be income to be taxed. With the high corporate taxes and government reguluations in place in the U.S., companies go elsewhere. Barry just today proposed a measure that will make it even more difficult for car manufacturers to produce vehicles in a cost effective manner. And he expects this to help the economy?

Next - lower taxes. Nothing to tax, therefore nothing to lower.
That's strange - Obama wants to give money to people that don't pay Federal income taxes. He calls it a tax cut - are you disputing what your president states?

Downsize government: This is a biggie! At the present, our largest businesses are announcing that they are cutting jobs because they can't meet the payrolls - businesses are failing. Our small business owners are doing the same. We have MILLIONS out of work throughout our country and those who work for American companies around the world.

The Federal Government can create jobs for the people in order to improve infrastructure, energy conservation, etc. JOBS - create incomes that can be taxed that can support services that the government provides. People working can support private businesses that provide services.

Really? How many jobs, David's Mom? A ranking member of obama's Joint Tax Committee, when asked, could not even say how many jobs would be produced by barry's grand plan.

Ranking Member Camp Presses Joint Tax Committee on Job Creation

barry has claimed that as many as 4 million jobs would be created by the end of 2010.

Obama again raises his estimate of jobs created under plan

This is nothing but pie-in-the-sky thinking. What kind of jobs? The jobs to "rebuild the infrastructure" would be nothing but union construction jobs that would quickly go away after the work is completed. We need jobs for the long term, and only the private sector can create them and only if the government gets out of the way and let it work. That's economics 101, something that our dear leader fails to understand.

"Obama, in a weekly radio and Internet address, sought to inject a positive note into the economic outlook by releasing a report from his economic advisers that broadly estimated the jobs that could be created with his stimulus plan.

The report noted, however, that at least 5 million jobs, and probably many more, will have been lost during the downturn. So even if Obama's most optimistic projections bear out, unemployment in December 2010 will still be higher than it was in December 2007."

I want everyone on Obama's cabinet and all those that he is asking to submit ideas, plans, etc. to get with it NOW - and work to stop this downward spiral that (who cares when and who it started) started before his administration came to power.

I agree. But they also have to do the RIGHT thing, and it appears that the president is trying to rush this pork-laden anvil through congress. He has given a timeline for getting it passed without doing due diligence by ensuring that the stimulus would in fact help the country and not sink it further into the recession. When someone in his own staff contradicts his claim of 4 million new jobs, you have to question the logic.

We usually give a president and his administration 100 days. Some here haven't given this administration 100 hours before crying failure. We, the American people, can’t afford to fail during this crisis.

Are you suggesting that we just let the president do whatever he darn well pleases without speaking up? Do you let your house burn to the ground before you call the fire department? No, you speak up and call the fire department so that they can come and put out the fire before it spreads. Americans must speak up against this 2 trillion dollar plan if they think that it will sink the economy into a depression. We cannot afford to be silent while the president and his administration wrecks our country.

To stop this spiral, we must put our people back to work. Private business can’t do it at this time.
YES THEY CAN!!! But only if government gets out of the way and reduces corporate taxes so that companies can afford to hire more people!! Face it, government can't even run Social Security, so what makes you think that they can create jobs?

The previous government policies and practices have failed. I agree. So why is Obama trying the same things that have failed in the past? These FDR policies that he is trying to claim as his own failed in the past, just as they will fail now.

We cannot continue down the same road. We must give ourselves one or two years to turn this journey around towards success. Stop the bitching – and start thinking!! When you say 'stop the bi***ing' are you saying that we should just sit here silently? Are you saying that we should not speak out if we see a train wreck coming? Why do you and barry want to squelch opposing points of view?

If you have an idea/plan/strategy to halt the mess we’re in at home and around the world – share it.

1. Reduce Taxes - permanently - individual, corporate, and capital gains. Puttin money back into the pockets of people that earned it will stimulate the economy like you have never seen. If the government would suspend Federal income taxes for 3 months, it would have a dramatic effect on turning this economy around.

2. Reduce government spending - get rid of these unnecessary pork barrel projects. Admit that the war on poverty has been lost and end welfare.

It's not rocket science, DM. Politicians cannot solve the problem, but America can.

40% of the current plan is tax reduction. The rest is a mixture of supporting existing state and local government spending to meet the needs of their citizens. Persons are still sharing ideas - and leaders ARE listening. You are America! Some of your solutions are included in the package. If this doesn't work - I'm sure we all will be demanding taking another course. I don't think anyone trusts the current corporations and financial institutions that were 'helped' with the first government payment to put money back in OUR pockets. If state and local governments don't get help - more people will be out of work. Americans need help from their government TODAY! Our private business and politicos have failed us. Our elected government knows we're watching; we're involved; and we are willing to take the necessary steps to KEEP WORKING!

I know you mean well.. and sometimes I go after the jugular on some of these issues..
But DM the Goverment did this to us.. specifically Chris Dodd and Barney Franks.. Please I implore you to look up their role in this.. Yes some of our banking institutions went wild.. but only after being told "Don't worry we will cover it" The Goverment pushed them into sub-prime loans and then acted indignant when they failed..
I won't bore you with all the details, but look it up and you will find that they were involved heavly in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac..
Which is/was at the root of this debacle.

and others who were involved in the Freddie/Fannie debacle. I, like you, have read the details. Everyone was riding high with the high interest rates, etc. We've learned. No one - including you and me - complained when we were earning high interest rates on our savings, our homes were appraised at more than we knew they were worth, etc., etc., etc. We did it to ourselves! Now times are bad. Not as bad as the 20's and 30's - but do we have to wait until it gets THAT bad before we take meaningful action? We know where the train went off the track - and we are insisting that our leaders get us back on track. One stimulus was tried - and we put that money in our savings accounts or paid off debts. The economy continued to falter. Another package is being presented which includes tax reductions and help for our state and county governments that are laying off citizens and cutting services. What is wrong with trying this approach?

My family was very political.. My father was on the Governor's staff in Alabama under George Wallace and Lurleen Wallace.. I actually was on the campaign staff for Don Seigleman and got Christmas cards from him.. up until he went to Prison for bribes and etc.. So my faith in the Goverment has dimmed somewhat.. They refuse to control their spending.. I mean look at the TARP money.. 200 Million going to STD reseach and contraceptives.. How did that stimulate the economy.? How much more of the money was "re-directed" from where it was supposed to go.. I just don't want them touching anymore of my money.. I can spend it better then they can.. I mean really do you care about the sex life of the african bullfrog, 100 million spent.. How long does it take to cook the perfect egg.. 300,000 spent. Why do people cheat at tennis.. 250,000 spent and the list just goes on and on..
We give them a TRILLION more and they will give money to study the effects of whale crap in the oceans... Well you know what I mean..

Money for contraceptives may teach millions how to use them and prevent unwanted pregnancies, which as you know cost us billions per use in their upkeep! Savings is as good as not spending isn't it?

This is called "long term" planning with which being from Alabama you may not be familiar!

The curing of severely crippled and suffering people seems to me to be a Jesus thing! He did a lot of it! Not just in the lab however.
Medicaid also pays out zillions for these crippled people!

All that research you mention (.000001% of the budget) is what has caused us to leave the caves and get things done!

Maybe they don't in Alabama! Sorry, just couldn't resist it!
I know politicians like such talk to get ignorant votes!

Money for contraceptives may teach millions how to use them and prevent unwanted pregnancies, which as you know cost us billions per use in their upkeep! Savings is as good as not spending isn't it?

This is called "long term" planning with which being from Alabama you may not be familiar!

The curing of severely crippled and suffering people seems to me to be a Jesus thing! He did a lot of it! Not just in the lab however.
Medicaid also pays out zillions for these crippled people!

All that research you mention (.000001% of the budget) is what has caused us to leave the caves and get things done!

Maybe they don't in Alabama! Sorry, just couldn't resist it!
I know politicians like such talk to get ignorant votes!

Adjective:bonkers

irrational, crazy

You are too funny.. you know digging on Alabama and all.. sad to say they rate higher in education then does Georgia..Course only by 2 slots.. Sad but to true.. but after reading some of your postings.. it is not really hard to believe.
However my original point (which you failed to comment on) remains the same.. I'll try this in slang and maybe you can understand.. Da Gubnent dont spend our jack to well..deys be waste it and all dat. I dont trust them Gubnent fellas much tat all.

I do understand your perspective. I'm joining the majority of the young people in this country - and holding Obama's feet to the fire to make his administration as transparent as possible without harming national security; joining McCain in stopping the pork; including oversight in our finance legislation; etc., etc., etc. These young people are still involved/watching Obama move on campaign promises, working to restore confidence in American leadership around the world; providing SERVICE in their local communities. If they become jaded, I feel we are lost. It is their enthusiasm and Americanism that has me involved at this point in my life. Believe me - I have 'suffered' at actions of government - but with the blessing of being able to travel the world - I know that there is NO PLACE LIKE AMERICA for a woman or a minority! Your experience and distrust actually will help all of us - for you will be looking for actions that take us off the track; you will be vocal; and hopefully, you will be heard.

What do you think? These are 'their' answers. (All benefitting the businesses that are failing now - even with the outsourcing, etc., because no one is buying! No one has an income!!) Now that really doesn't take rocket science to figure out. It's a little late to implement your tax concerns when our citizens have no income! End welfare? Thank God we have unemployment protection in 2009 - or we would have food lines today. Have you read the 'bailout' plan of the current administration? (Not the interpretation of left/right/ journalists) We can read, comprehend, and think for ourselves - right?

This IS what I think. If I pulled my words directly from a conservative website, then please provide a link. You might want to stop drinking so much of the obama Kool-Aid. It's starting to affect your rational thought.

You state that our citizens have no income. This implies that everyone is out of work instead of just around 7-8%. I'll try to explain this again. If corporate taxes are cut, companies that are in business can earn a profit, grow, and then hire more employees. Putting the money into government projects will not grow the economy - it will weigh it down even further.

Second point - Unemployment does not equal welfare. Unemployment is for the short term and is needed to help people until they can get back on their feet. Welfare is for lazy, good for nothing brood mares that do nothing but produce babies and suck off of the government teat. They have no intention of ever getting a job.

I will admit that I haven't read all 400 PAGES of this beaurocratic nightmare that barry and the libs have written, however I have read enough to know that it will no produce the results that barry is hoping for. It is nothing but a massive government growth program that will hurt our great country.

Plenty of citizens have income.

Let's discuss this on Monday.

Plenty of citizens have income. The unemployment rate is still way below Great Depression levels and it still had 3 out of 4 people with incomes. If they would do away with my payroll taxes (I wont get SS anyway in 2037), then I would have enough money to install hardwood floors this year. That is true stimulus. I admire your enthusiasm David's mom, but you trust the government to do the right thing with money. Government doesn't earn money. Government takes money. We can mandate that we buy only American goods. That would be called Smoot Hawley II. Maybe the 2nd time is the charm.

We have this foolish idea that the government is the answer to get out of a recession/depression. Many times governmental policies cause a business downturn, but neverthemind. Many point to FDR and his programs for recoevery from the great depression and jobs creation. Let's look at the numbers. Stock Market crash in 1929. In 1929 the unemployment rate was 3.3%, By 1933 when FDR took office, the unemployment rate was 24.9%. It fluctuated a small bit, but the unemployent rate in 1939 was 17.3%. Even with the entire New Deal package, FDR couldn't stimulate the economy with government spending. It wasn't until the US was preparing to enter WWII that the rates went down. Full warfare brought full employment. During the same time period, the federal income tax was at 69% at its highest margin and FDR's government raised it to 79%. The government spending money will not get us out of this. Don't think that it did so in the 30's either.

Full warfare brought full employment.

We had better come up with a better solution!! We are in TWO wars now! . and according to reports, certain private businesses have benefitted. We don't have the 'public' working for the war effort - and that is what brought us out of the depression - and put food on the table, and provided incomes to be taxed. Our people were WORKING. Yes, the government spent money to put people back to work - the war effort. Don't you think the government spending money and putting people back to work on projects other than war will help solve this problem? There are economists working now on plans that once we have people back to work - we can return to basing our economy on lower taxes and private enterprise. WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER - I don't care what one's ideology is today.

Let's be honest David's mom, WWII mobilization and warfare was far different than today. It affected everybody. Not just volunteers who serve (like I did) and those upset are upset for other reasons than how it impacts their lives. The two wars we are involved in do not engage the majority of our combat brigades now. The problem with the governmental spending of money is that it has to be made up somehow. Right now they are raising the money supply (ie printing money) that has no backing. The more that is out there, the less it is worth. For the past decade or so, China has been buying our bonds. If we devalue our currency, they will balk at buying more. And guess what, they are already starting to balk. How will the government pay its debt without taxing 1/2 of what working people make. Most people work less hard when they are taxed at 50%. why bother

The problem with the governmental spending of money is that it has to be made up somehow. Right now they are raising the money supply (ie printing money) that has no backing.

Economists are working on the 'somehow'. One way to earn money is to work. Create income that can be taxed. Without 'working' there will be no income. Budgeting wisely is another way of creating wiser spending - more usable income. Producing products for global distribution, etc, etc. Our economists and leaders are working on the issues as we 'type'. Many of us are doing this in our own cities, counties, and HOMES. But without jobs - nothing works - and we know that printing money is a no-no.

Because we have the intelligence, expertise, and leadership to tackle these problems. When we make mistakes, we have the ability to correct those mistakes and continue moving forward. Sitting back and saying 'it' didn't work before - and nothing will work now is playing right into the enemies hands. Join us Wedge - and help us out! What will work? Share your expertise today!!

and watching as my country spends its way into oblivion. This isn't a party issue. Both parties are doing it. It happens everyday in a lot of homes. Eventually, when you spend 120% of what you earn, people will stop allowing you to borrow money. Right when they recognize that you will not repay it. Then countries do the tried and true formula of nationalizing industries and refusing to honor its debts. And good luck selling those bonds in the future.

. .first - we (the American public and government) are stopping the spending of 120% of what we have. (We don't have it anymore) We can't borrow any more money. We have to EARN it. Our citizens have to work, I’m glad you're working - I'm horrified when I read about men and women who have worked for 15-20 years being laid off. No one is talking about nationalizing our industries - we're asking our industries to shore up their budgets, make a product that will sell - so that they can employ citizens to produce and buy the product. (Ford introduced this theory to the world) We're asking our financial institutions to be ethical and transparent in their business practices. We're asking (demanding) now that there be oversight of public monies. I believe we can do it. Keep expressing your concerns, because I'm sure that these concerns need to be addressed. The answer is not IT CAN'T BE DONE. Everyone, including government workers for Obama is taking a cut or having their salary frozen. EVERYONE! The only label that matters now is American. WE must produce for America, buy American, etc. This will be difficult because previous administrations have outsourced us to the hilt. However, it’s my understanding that this is a global problem - and hopefully the leaders of the world will work together on this problem.

Barack Obama: "If we don't get this done we (the Democrats) could lose seats and I could lose re-election. But we can't let people like Rush Limbaugh stall this. That's how things don't get done in this town."

See DM? barry is not concerned about doing what is right for America, barry is all about doing what it takes to stay in power.

He wants to retain the power so that he can use it to buy votes of people who don't pay taxes using the the tax money that hard working people earn.

He then goes on to demonize Rush Limbaugh in the process? This is pathetic. It's amazing how insecure barry is.

This is going to be a long 4 years.

The last thing Obama wants is Rush on his side. Now that Rush has joined bin Laden in his desire to see Obama fail he only further alienates patriotic Americans.

There's a great article in Human Events supporting Rush and trashing McCain campaign manager Rick Davis for suggesting that the Rep. Party should be more inclusive:

Blaming Rush Limbaugh and Conservatism for Republican Woes

I love this line: “In spite of being despised and belittled by people like Davis, Crist, and Fiorina, there were still quite a few conservatives in the mix of 55 million Americans who voted for McCain. But as Limbaugh pointed out, even many of these were voting against Obama more than they were voting for McCain.”

Right! So take out the people voting against Obama and the losers have even less of a constituency. Yet Rush applauds this trend. So do I.

“(Colin) Powell and (Bush speech writer Michael) Gerson -- and too many other phony conservatives -- are the problem, not the solution. It was by their philosophy and political strategy that the Republican Party ended up abandoning conservatism in favor of McCainism.”

“Governor Charlie Crist: RINO of the Year (so far).”

WorldNutDaily jumps in too:

RINO careerists: Nothing more than traitors

What a GREAT article! I can just imagine you nodding your head in agreement with it Fred.

How low have they sunk? Check out this line: “That's why conservative intellectual Michael Savage...” Mike Savage a conservative intellectual? HAHAHA. They've got to be kidding! Mike Savage is what passes for an intellectual in Limbaugh's Party? That is SO funny! Savage is about as intellectual as a rabid bat. How embarrassing.

Obama doesn't want Rush anywhere but in the opposition. He's playing you like a violin and you don't even realize it.

"Friendly advice."
It looks like the conserves would have gotten a clue by now that most of us think you are nuts for making people like Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, Boortz, etc., influential and wealthy in your domain.

These people helped to destroy the republican party forever. Get rid of them. They took you for a ride!

I didn't miss a thing Jeff, and that statement just goes to show how egotistical, shallow, and condescending a person that barry is. He has no intention of working with senate Republicans. He's all talk and nothing but a liar.

The fact that he brings up Rush Limbaugh's name in a meeting with the Senate shows how insecure barry is.

This country is in big trouble with a weenie like Barack Obama running the show.

Why should He work with Republicans? If the American people so dearly wanted Republican input they wouldn't have voted OVERWHELMINGLY for DEMOCRATS in the last election. So get used to it. I understand that it might be difficult for Republicans, after the last eight years, to adjust to the NEW, intelligent, competent, scrupulous DEMOCRATIC leadership.

"Why should He work with Republicans?"

Why should he? Because barry he said he would. However, I guess it's a lot to ask for a liberal to keep his/her word.

By the way, why did you capitalize "he" in your question. Do you think that barry is some sort of deity?

Nice avatar - typical lib. If you don't agree with the messenger, refer to them as a nazi.

“If you don't agree with the messenger, refer to them as a nazi...”

Must be talking about Rep. Paul Broun:

Obama Derangement Syndrome

Or this guy:

adolph obama

Or this one:

Democrats are fascists

Maybe this one:

Barack the Black Hitler

Or maybe that nut on Fox news:

Tom Sullivan compares Obama to Hitler

SO many more to pick from Fred. You're going to have to narrow it down for us.

I don't think so.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Yes, the addition of 21 house seats and 8 senate seats is an overwhelming victory.

Let's face it.. the " I am going to bring America together" speech was so much BS.. We are further apart then ever.. and Jeff Palin500ad??? President Obama has not,a least not yet, gone out of his way to acomplish it .. has he?
For a sitting President to call out a private citizen and basically tell the Repubs it's either my way or the hwy is too much.
We need to pull together.. we can have ideological differences, but if they can't do it in DC.. how in heck can we get out of this mess..
Just a pondering...

Not surprising you am I?

We just happen to live in that small part of the country that represents the most conservative Republican faction. We're about the only place where Congressmen like Paul Broun liken him to Hitler. In the rest of the country, Obama is overwhelmingly popular and a bipartisanship is prevalent so far. Here every tiny thing is blown up to vast proportions so that it can be used to criticize Obama.

As for calling out Rush, tough. He's a big boy making a living catering to the fringe bashing Obama. He can take it.

And telling the Republicans it's either my way or the hwy is too much? Man, y'all have been preaching it's my way or the highway for eight years.

Jeff.. you yourself on a previous post said.. The repubs would roll over as usaul.. and they did.. Bush and the rest have been reaching across the abyss since day 1.. Bush even let Kennedy write the education bill.. and then was slapped in the face after they wrote it.
Nancy P just changed the rules in the house to prevent Repubs from voting to change a bill or even offer a new one.. That's fair?
We have a 2 party system.. and the demos do not speak for all of America..
If you look at the election results.. factor in 3rd party which took repub votes.. and then look at the stats they say somewhere between 8-12% of Conservatives refused to vote for McCain and stayed home.. Obama did not so much win as took it by default.. Bedides Obama was the one who said he was going to be inclusive..
So far I do not see it.. I just see another Clinton term..

Remarks linking Barack Obama and Adolf Hitler:
On November 10, 2008, one week after the 2008 presidential election, Broun drew national attention[8] when he criticized President-elect Barack Obama's call for a civilian national security force, suggesting that Obama might use it to establish a Marxist dictatorship.

In an interview with the Associated Press, Broun said, "That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did. When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist." Broun later clarified his statement by saying, "We can't be lulled into complacency. You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential of going down that road."

Broun was merely comparing Barack's proposals to the ACTIONS of Hitler, not the man himself. I think it is fair to say that he is showing signs of being a Marxist since one of barry's mentors was a Marxist and barry's "spread the wealth" comment during the election.

barry's pick for the White House National Economic Council just yesterday stated that there is a possibility that the Bush tax cuts would be repealed this year as Nancy Pelosi is requesting because "we simply can't afford it".

I'll tell you what, I simply can't afford it either. It's insane to think that raising taxes in the middle of a recession is going to help the economy. It's hard to believe that they are actually considering this nonsense, but then again, barry is the most liberal President in history.

When my salary gets hit, I simply spend less to make up the difference. What does the government do? They spend more.
We have a President in office now who thinks that he can spend his way out of a recession and I truly fear he will destroy our republic in the process. It's also frightening that we have a President that feels that it's o.k. to send our hard earned tax dollars overseas for abortions.