Thanks Muddle for sharing what was actually said. Sad -
- but I think he felt it was a hopeful statement of improved race-relations. The feelings of distrust and anger are still to close to the surface for this to have been included in his 'prayer'. The younger,enlightened generation will prevail.. . . And we'll move on.

"...embarrassingly bad material" is an apt description. I cringed when I heard it.

It seemed to me to highlight the dichotomy between the fading of the Lowery/Jackson/Sharpton era and the more post racial era of Obama milieu.

I cringed along with you. Keep in mind, Joe Lowery is not only old guard but sort of b-list old guard at that. The Obama people no doubt felt they had to include someone of that era but I would have preferred Andy Young. I believe he's an ordained minister and I think he would have been mesmerizing without being insulting to half his audience...

I was very angry at first. I have calmed down a little. Like Cy said rev no-class/low-class is not really relevant anymore anyway.

Have a good day. It is supposed to warm up today.

Was a bit cliche but sincere for him. That is the way he feels--right or wrong.
I don't criticize poetry much. I write some and I think most of the time it makes more sense than those by so-called experts.
It is my opinion that real poets write fuzzy, deliberately just so as to make us mortals feel inferior in not understanding a thing they write, usually.

Kinda like Philosophers!
Good luck in your position hunt.

That old fool didn't write that poem on his own. The idea and some of the specific words were taken from an old civil rights chant titled "Black, Brown and White". It was written by Big Bill Broonzy. Here is a copy of the lyrics:

Big Bill Broonzy Black, Brown And White lyrics

This little song that i’m singin’ about,
People you know it’s true
If you’re black and gotta work for a living,
This is what they will say to you,
They says, “if you was white, should be all right,
If you was brown, stick around,
But as you’s black, hmm brother, get back, get back, get back”
I was in a place one night
They was all having fun
They was all buyin’ beer and wine,
But they would not sell me none
They said, “if you was white, should be all right,
If you was brown, stick around,
But if you black, hmm brother, get back, get back, get back”
Me and a man was workin’ side by side
This is what it meant
They was paying him a dollar an hour,
And they was paying me fifty cent
They said, “if you was white, ‘t should be all right,
If you was brown, could stick around,
But as you black, hmm boy, get back, get back, get back”
I went to an employment office,
Got a number ‘n’ i got in line
They called everybody’s number,
But they never did call mine
They said, “if you was white, should be all right,
If you was brown, could stick around,
But as you black, hmm brother, get back, get back, get back”
I hope when sweet victory,
With my plough and hoe
Now i want you to tell me brother,
What you gonna do about the old jim crow?
Now if you was white, should be all right,
If you was brown, could stick around,
But if you black, whoa brother, get back, get back, get back

Here is the link

He added that jab at "whitey" to serve his own selfish purposes. Keeping the flames of racial problems fanned and burning hot is very lucrative for certain groups. Some people would lose their bully pulpits and even worse the ability to say whatever they want and be excused. And you think they will let it die a deserved death? Why would they?

Here is the bigger question though. Why in the world did Barry smile or chuckle (depending on the report you read) when he said it? Was he just excusing the marginalized old fool? Or was he agreeing? What a time for him to act presidential and stand up and say I reject and repudiate that remark at the end of that prayer. What a message that would send to people of every color. I guess that "change" isn't coming yet. His silence is DEAFENING....

Well said, very eloquent.

"Your, yore, you're all idiots." (T.Floyd)

Hope everyone had a good time at the soiree yesterday, im sure all of his aides enjoyed the fact that while he was eating lunch he froze all their salarys at current levels. Hope they enjoyed the Cristal, for the march towards socialisim begins, all for one and none for all, get used to it folks, and stand ready. PEACE....

"...the march towards socialisim begins"

Rip van Winkle? Did you miss thee Bush administration nationalizing the economy?

and Barack H. Obama is it.. Socialism has worked everywhere it has been tried.. I mean look at France.. Look at what a industrial power house it is.. and North Korea.. and wow look at Cuba. They are famous for their cigars..Laos and Vietnam.. famous for their exports as well..mainly young females who have an extensive knowledge of Finger nails..
Yep.. Socialism is here.. Live it.. Love it or Leave it..

Main, there is also an assumption that God is a man. Maybe her name is Rosebud - wait, that was a sled wasn't it?

No, I don't care what religion our President holds in his heart. That has never been an issue for me. I saw the interview with Stephanopolis and know that Obama's words were twisted and used out of context by the media. Why doesn't this teacher know this? Teachers need to leave their personal politics at home.

BTW: A funny thought struck me today about the icons used to represent our two political parties. Mules are stubborn and an elephant never forgets - together they would make a perfect woman.

Main Stream, regarding that "Obama is a Muslim" teacher ("Mrs. C") at Booth...there are only three teachers whose surname starts with a "C" and if it's who I think it is, you'll be pleased to know that this teacher will probably be soon taking an unplanned leave of absence, assuming Judge Sams throws the book at her when she appears in his court for the SECOND time on charges of abusing dogs.

Although anything is possible in Fayette county courtrooms!

(Funny how certain court cases never make it to the pages of the Citizen! God bless the person who posted that link to the Fayette court calendar!)
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How this has been a well kept secret. The second time?? Do you know when this will go to court?

Sorry about this, I initially read the summary docket.

When I went and looked at the detail, I saw she pled guilty on November 13, 2008 and was sentenced that day.

Didn't say what the sentence was.

But all 3 teachers who's names start with "C" at Booth were at work on November 13, 2008 when you "claim" this Guilty Plea was admitted...

Glad to help.
1. Go to the Fayette county clerk of the court's website LINK
2. Click CRIMINAL SEARCH
3. Type in the teacher's last name.
4. You'll see about 60 cases for people with that last name. Scroll down until you see the teacher's first name.
5. Click on the case.
6. Marvel that the court record states she was in court on 11/13/2008 for sentencing just like I "claimed"
7. Then come back here and apologize to me for ever doubting me.
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Just because you provide detailed steps as to how you think you've gained your data, doesn't make your data factual.
I on the other hand work with these wonderful teachers you slander with your pompous gossip and know who is here at work each day and who is not.
Oh, just to amuse myself, I went to your link and entered the names of not only the teachers who's names began with "C" but also all employees here who's names began with "C" (15 names) and SURPRISE, found no one!
Upon reading some of your other rantings about the school system in Fayette County, it has become clear to me that you have way to much time on your hands, an over-inflated opinion of yourself, and that maybe we would all be better off if you considered moving to another school district.

(I'm laughing as I type this reply 'cause you are less than 30 feet away from me seperated by one thin wall. ain't technology grand)

I went home for lunch to watch the whole thing because, despite my feelings, it was history in the making. I didn't see much I was not expecting.

As to "keeping racism alive": Yes, we (and the whole world) will be shown just who it is that won't let racism die.

"Your, yore, you're all idiots." (T.Floyd)

My thoughts, exactly, Tony. (About the 30-feet away thing...)

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Let's not use the same broad brush that the archaic Rev. Lowroad used when referring to others.

It appears to me that the 'content of their character' comments by Dr. King were lost by Rev. Lowroad. Many of us have moved beyond his shallow rantings. Most who rejected Obama did so for political reasons, not racial reasons. Clarance Thomas was certainly not celebrated, nor was Michael Steele or J.C. Watts, I assume because of political bent and not race. I think you have had a glimpse in to Rev. Lowroad's bitterness.

On the other hand - I appreciate David's mom and her comment below - but I would ask her not to be afraid to say he was flat out wrong and you reject him and not just that Dr. King would not have said it. We must all be willing to reject racism when we see and hear it and recognize racism is not confined to any single group of people.

I was hasty in my response. By "they", I meant the group of racist, hate-filled 'activists' and 'preachers' who cry foul at every alleged injustice against black people, yet who preach hate themselves against "whitey". I failed to clarify- thank you for pointing that out.

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I understand your anger about the STUPID STUPID STUPID prayer like rant of Rev Lowery. The White do right line was an embarrassment to blacks and a slap in the face to whites. But why all this broad brush "they" and "them" stuff? How often do blacks come up to either of you and say "you owe me X because I'm black." Let's make a deal: I won't invoke broad brush generalities or curse your names or likenesses when a white person does or says something stupid/criminal. And please show your blogging buddies the same consideration.

I'll give you an actual example: I commented and linked here about two events where white police officers shot unarmed black men.

I use race only for clarification, because these acts were not indicative of the training, thoughts, or beliefs of all police. As a matter of fact, I gladly bought two of New York's finest foo foo lattes at a Starbuck's at New York's JFK airport last weekend. Why? Because they earn their uniforms everyday. And they don't deserve to be under the shadow of another officer's words or actions.

I don't want to be under Rev Lowery's shadow. I could not disagree with his words more. Know what I mean?

Cheers.

and that little comment, it hasn't seem to attract much media attention. Is that by design or is he no longer relevant?

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It's kind of like how the Dems crucified Joe the plumber for owing 1200 bucks in back taxes, yet where is the uproar about Geithner and his nearly 50,000 in back taxes and penalties.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

What a bunch of bovine manure.

AP
But it wasn't until two years later, days before President Obama tapped him to head Treasury last November, that Geithner paid back taxes he owed for the years 2001 and 2002.

I suspect he knew that President Obama was going to tap him on the shoulder so he came clean. That's our our next Treasury Secretary. (Eyes Rolling)
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I personally am looking forward to my government sponsored classes on how to "fudge" ooooopppppps I mean, "accidently overlook" my taxes, and the bills due.

We all will be offered free classes on how to cheat......oooopppss....I mean "accidently overlook" our tax bills...right??? This is getting good. Just when I thought this new president didn't care about me...

I think this stuff about him being the only person able to solve the Sec. of The Treasury post is pure bunk!

People like him not paying their proper taxes, especially to Social Security, is what causes many others to cheat deliberately.

Anyone in business knows that their employer pays the exact same amount as they do into their SS! A total of about 15% of gross wages.

There are those workers however who don't realize that their company does pay the same amount they do. It is a big bill for most companies.

This excuse stuff of International companies paying him as a contractor, it appears, would be all the more reason for a sophisticated person such as he to make sure by hiring professionals!

Just the kind of preferred benefits some get that caused our current economic problems.

Turn him down. There must be innumerable others able to supervise the top job!
The Pros (civil Servants) will do exactly what they are made to do!

Geithner’s problem most likely came from his using TurboTax, which he admitted he did during recent congressional hearings.

When you use a computer program like this to prepare your income tax return, you answer a bunch of questions and the answers produce your return. At the time, he worked for an international agency that was exempt from collecting Social Security taxes, and it seems that TurboTax did not allow for this unusual circumstance in its questions.

Sometimes it is better to prepare one’s income tax return by hand. Geithner might have been better off today if he had.

How soon we forget. Remember Zoe Baird and Linda Chavez? The precedent has been set. Or do the rules not apply to Obama because 'We Have A Black President' ?

Baird - NannyGate I

Chavez - NannyGate II

Gov. Patterson's office is leaking like a sieve today. According to the NYT, taxes and a nannygate thing are the reason Ms. Kennedy has withdrawn from consideration for Clinton's Senate seat.

And it wears a non-partisan face. But then again the Kennedy's did earn their wealth via unscrupulous and illegal means. So why should we expect Carolyn to be any different? We have simply become a corrupt nation.

You aren't gonna get a Raptor?? Re think this, man!!! That thing is sweet! But I do like the Rhino.

Geithner, or however you spell it, should be tubed! I pay my taxes with turbotax and Taxcut. And then I print out the full forms and review them. If this guy can't do that, he doesn't need to be anywhere within arms reach of our nation's finances. I am hoping he spares himself a beating and takes the Carolyn Kennedy way out. Maybe he has a sick step nephew or something he can blame the "for personal reasons" withdrawal on..

I think the Raptor will have to wait until after the Goldwing Trike and the economy picks up a bit. The natural biz cycle will kick back in before long and I'll hurry up and make my purchases before rampant inflation sets in due to the several trillion dollars of worthless money that is being printed and dumped into our money supply.

Geithner.... He does need to go. Nothing partisan about it. If Obama can't get that one right then we are in for a bad start indeed. I say that respectfully.....

In the mean time I'll have to stick with the Rhino and hope I don't flip it going airborne over terraces and cattle trails.

He was at it again. I commented on this last night, but I' still angry.

What if Pastor Rick Warren had said in his prayer "let's hope the black man will do the right thing" ???

During a peaceful event that brought everyone of every race together that old racist couldn't drop his hate for one day. We will never be healed with idiots likes lowery and john lewis running around race baiting and reinventing the race card.

The only bright spot is they are both old and hopefully their hate will die with them. The problem is they have already poisoned so many people with their hate. They have taught a whole generation that the whole world owes them a living and everytime something bad happens to them it is the white mans fault.

This is the kind of hate I have encountered since moving to ATL 18yrs ago. Atlanta is not too busy to hate they pander to the like of rev. RACIST lowery. Being in Atlanta surrounded by this kind of rabid behavior has taught me what hate is. I see this at work all of the time. Everytime they are failing in training they pull the race card to stall for time.

Thanks Atlanta for teaching me to hate. That was a lesson I failed to learn up north.

I know what you are talking about. Blacks where I come from, even more South, don't act like this. We get along much better and care for each other as people.

I've lived many places and was puzzled when I moved here. It seems that some have turned it into a cottage industry, occupation/money.

My thoughts were, why is Atlanta like this?
These are my thoughts...

Any place that is known as a 'mecca' for one group...draws all. Those that can make it there...AND THOSE THAT CAN'T MAKE IT ANYWERE...
of that group...this one being Black....go.

It brings the best, and the worst, those that can't make it at home..nor Atlanta, nor anywhere.

I think Atlanta has more than it's share of bad Blacks who come here with a chip on their shoulder. They hate whitie.

It is really sad, because a lot of us whities...don't hate you. Just think of people like skyspy...who came here with nothing like that one their mind...and you tainted them.

I feel there are a lot of good Blacks here, who are overshadowed by those still looking for revenge for something that never happened to them.

Both Diva and David's mom are just as appalled as we are.

It was a sad way to end a ceremony.

Life will go on. Like I said he (lowery) is old hopefully his hate will die with him. He is a sad advertisment for ATL.

ATL has turned into an ugly thug ghetto. She could have been a beautiful southern gem. It is a shame. Living in ATL has opened my eyes to the kind of bigotry and hatred I did not see growing up in the north.

Where I grew up most people's ancestors were immigrants from europe. My family was in Germany when this country went through a civil war. I don't feel like I have to apologize for my ancestors. They weren't here and did nothing wrong. Less than 1% of the white population was responsible for the horrendous act of slavery on our shores. Yet the hate by a small few is directed at all whites equally. I still love the south and will retire here. The good outweighs the bad.

. . the good that comes from this realization of hate within others and ourselves is that we can begin the process of healing this debilitating emotion within ourselves. Hate and fear are related. Let's HOPE that what this younger generation is demonstrating is contagious! Everyone who has reported the emotion experienced on the mall at the Inauguration is saying it was LOVE! That report came from white, black, Native American, Asian - EVERYONE! What upset you about Lowrey's comment - has also upset others when directed towards their particular race, gender, ideology, etc. His comment, IMO, lacked respect for all of those who are identified as 'white' who worked so hard for the realization of Obama's success. MLK would not have made that comment.

Thank you. I hope that we can all work together and move forward.

When I saw you had replied to this, I was sure it would be a "black thing" I wouldn't understand type of answer. As I continued to read, and got to the last sentences, I realized "change" had come when you didn't defend this slap-in-my-face just because the one who belched it was black. Now, about the Bush taunting: any comments?

"Your, yore, you're all idiots." (T.Floyd)

about the Bush taunting: any comments?

I felt the same angst that surged when I heard the Obama taunting during the campaign.

Just Obama taunting. Shameful wasn't it? (Eyes Rolling)

Eyes rolling because I indicate that I didn't like either Bush or Obama taunting? Geez.

I've read your postings for years and not only have you never displayed your "angst" towards Bush or Republican bashing, you are one of it's staunchest participates. Fact is I haven't seen a Republican yet who you haven't criticized.

Please refresh my memory so that I can express my angst.

Do a Youtube search for "Jay-Z", "Young Jeezy". These fine and outstanding Rap artists appeared at one of many inaugural parties. I will not post that link due to the rather graphic language. YOU ARE WARNED!
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And Bust a RHymes, for house speakers.. PEACE...

Coming from Virginia.. I too see it here more then anywhere else I have been..