Those of us that are true patriots of this country find this disturbing. Those of us that actually fought for those Stars and Stripes find it vulgar and disrespectful to emblazon it with the image of the new puppet in charge. Regardless of political affiliation, it spits in the face of those that still have pride in their country. And, putting it on a Fourth of July cocktail napkin is inexcusable as well. There are many of us (military, police, EMT, etc) that wear this badge on their uniform as a sign of pride and nationalism. The code was put in place for a reason. However, the courts allow for those that have no respect for it stands for. It's the people that are generally the one that just want attention, and feel that they need to desecrate the very honor of those that have served to provide us with the blanket of freedom under which we sleep. The flag is a symbol of the freedom. It is the very freedom which allows you and Fred to argue on this website. Try not to let it hit the ground.

“Ignorance can be fixed. Stupidity is forever”

You don't know very much about the law, do you Jeff?

United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, 176 - Respect for the Flag

“The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.”

§176. UNITED STATES CODE TITLE 36 CHAPTER 10 - Respect for flag

It was you who specifically cited Title 4, Chapter 1, Section 3 of US Code, not me. Read it. It's not my fault if you cited the wrong law.

As I said, in any event the Obama people were not using a flag. Read the Supreme Court ruling in United States v. Eichman and a slew of others. It's a representation at best covered by free speech. Nobody would look at that and think it was an actual American flag.

There 13 Stripes and 50 stars in the FLAG in the picture. (Maybe it was 57 stars since it's a barry-flag).

If that doesn't qualify as a flag then I guess nothing does in liberal land.

If you think its an American flag the you should sue them. You'll be laughed out of court just like those people who claim that Obama doesn't have a valid birth certificate.

Do you ever wonder why people can march around with that "flag" and not get arrested? Its not because America is "liberal land". Its because y'all are nuts and don't know what your talking about.

You present them with facts and quote laws that they don't agree with, and they have nothing left but to resort to calling you names.

Nice come back Jeff! That was a real zinger!!

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I can't believe that I've wasted this much time trying to educate you. This started when you posted a story alleging that Obama supporters were desecrating the flag. To that end you referenced a specific law which was totally inapplicable as I pointed out.

Then you changed your argument to cite Title 36 apparently without reading it either. Here's part of the preamble:

“The code is the guide for all handling and display of the Stars and Stripes. It does not impose penalties for misuse of the United States Flag.”

“While the Code empowers the President of the United States to alter, modify, repeal or prescribe additional rules regarding the Flag, no federal agency has the authority to issue 'official' rulings legally binding on civilians or civilian groups.”

The Code you cite is a guide not legally binding on civilians. Its purpose is not to define criminal activities but rather to set guidelines so that people will know what the specific customs are for respecting the flag.

As I correctly posted in my first entry, the Supreme Court decision in United States vs. Eichman flag desecration case (as you wrongly allege to the Obama supporters) clearly and unambiguously ruled that the banner thingys like the Obama supporters are carrying is not a US flag.

Since you obviously did not read the case here is a relevant part of the argument before the Court:

“One fundamental problem with a flag desecration law would be the simple definition
of a flag. Flag emblems are printed on shirts, coffee mugs, sandals, napkins, and even boxer shorts. When would a flag emblem or representation count as a flag that could be
desecrated? Would a proud patriot who wore his favorite old, ripped T-shirt with an
American flag on it be guilty of physically desecrating the flag? Would a war veteran who
wiped his mouth on an American flag napkin at a Fourth of July barbeque, crumpled it up,
and threw it away be guilty of desecrating the flag? These people would be physically
damaging a representation of the flag, and under the law they could be convicted of flag
desecration.”

The Court ruled “No”. These things were NOT flags.

Then you come back with it has 13 Stripes and 50 stars so: “If that doesn't qualify as a flag then I guess nothing does in liberal land.”

No. Just because it has stars and stripes it doesn't qualify as a flag as I have repeatedly shown citing the law as interpreted by the Supreme Court. What you think qualifies is irrelevant.

Now you claim that “libs” when presented with your bogus “facts” (each of which I have shown not to be facts at all) and quote “laws” (which I have shown not to be laws but guidelines not binding on civilians) have nothing left.

Here are the facts: according to the real US law as determined by the Supreme Court, the Obama people were not carrying a US flag and therefore were not desecrating a US flag and all the kooky claims to the contrary don't make one whit of difference.

BTW: Here's what a real US flag looks like:

Flag of the United States of America

Have a nice Obama inauguration day.

It is a code. What is a code you ask?

"The United States Code is the official, subject matter order, compilation of the Federal laws of a general and permanent nature that are currently in force."

Now, you are correct that there are no penalties involved, however I never stated that any laws were broken.
"This code is the guide for all handling and display of the Stars and Stripes. It does not impose penalties for misuse of the United States Flag. That is left to the states and to the federal government for the District of Columbia. Each state has its own flag law."

I do maintain that to put the chosen one's picture on the flag constitutes desecration.

Alright yall the final countdown has begun.. High noon fast approaching, stay alert, be aware of your surroundings, be prepared...PEACE TO ALL, GOODNIGHT AND GOODLUCK....

"Venezuela's Chavez says Obama has "stench" of Bush

"I hope I am wrong, but I believe Obama brings the same stench, to not say another word," Chavez said at a political rally on a historic Venezuelan battlefield."

REUTERS

My side was led to believe that the entire world will love us as soon as that meany President Bush left office. I know he only has like 12 more hours, but I'm starting to panic here. Either Hugo failed to agree to that or was left off the cc's at the bottom of the memo to the world. Else, he wouldn't have said....."frayed ties with Washington were unlikely to improve despite the departure of Bush'.

Biden, Pelosi, Reid or somebody had better contact the law offices of Gary Martin Hayes and have them tell Hugo.....we mean business with this change thing!!!

burns the cross. What's up with that anyway?