Family escapes fire at Fayetteville home - update

Fri, 01/09/2009 - 4:20pm
By: John Munford

Donations sought to help family, which lost everything in blaze

Fire at Church Street 1-07-09

A woman and three children safely escaped a house fire late Wednesday morning in downtown Fayetteville immediately adjacent to Allan Vigil Ford, officials said.

Donations are being sought to help the family which consists of one mother and eight children, ranging in age from 3 months old to 17 years old. The family lost everything in the fire, said the mother, Eronna Porter.

The kids’ schools were making efforts to provide clothing and other items for some of the children, Porter said. Of all the family’s needs right now, the greatest might be rental housing as it’s difficult to find a place large enough for the family, Porter said.

The family has a particular need for clothing for the four oldest children as follows:

• A 17-year-old daughter who wears size 4-5 pants, a medium blouse and shoes size 8;

• A 15-year-old son who wears size 34-34 pants, an extra large shirt and a size 10 shoe;

• A 14-year-old daughter who wears size 7-8 pants with a medium top and a size 7 and a half shoe; and

• An 11-year-old daughter who wears a size 12 pants, a small top and a size 4 and a half shoe.

There is also a need for baby furniture for the three month old, Porter said.

Donations may be dropped off at a family member’s residence on Price Road in south Fayetteville. To arrange a dropoff, Porter may be contacted at 770-885-6948.

Porter said the family would be grateful for any assistance the public can provide.

Despite heavy winds that added to the danger of the fire, firefighters were able to keep the blaze from spreading to a nearby home to the east, said Fayetteville Fire Lt. Bill Rieck.

Teachers at Fayette Middle School have responded by collecting clothes and other items for the family, which has had four children attend the school, said Principal Sharlene Patterson.

An investigation into the fire is underway and it was noted there were several space heaters inside the home though that is not an indication one of them somehow started the fire, Rieck indicated.

The first fire crew arrived within three minutes of being dispatched, but by that time flames were shooting outside parts of the home, Rieck said.

Fayetteville fire crews were able to work from inside the home to extinguish the flames. Fayette County firefighters also assisted in battling the blaze.

The fire was reported as under control just before 12:30 p.m.

Rieck said it was surprising how much of the structure is still intact given how intense the flames were initially at the scene.

The home's address was 145 Washington Avenue, which is a side street that extends off Church Street.

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Submitted by IT DONT MATTER on Fri, 02/06/2009 - 7:00pm.

I WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO THANK EVERYONE WHO DID SUPPORT US.....AS WELL AS THE ONES WHO DIDNT MAY SOME OF YOUR SOULS GO TO HELL FOR YOUR MEAN AND IRRELEVANT COMMENTS ABOUT MY MOTHER WHO LOVES US SO DEARLY. WE ARE NOW IN A BETTER HOME OF COURSE WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH FOOD,CLOTHES,SHOES,ETC. EVEN THOUGH ME AND MY MOM SOAKED FOR WEEKS OUR HEADS ARE STILL HIGH WERE JUST HAPPY THAT WE GOT OUT ALIVE AND THAT WE STILL HAVE EACHOTHER.....I DONT FEEL BAD FOR MY MOTHER FOR HAVING ALL OF US BECAUSE I LOVE ALL 9 REMAINING BEING THE OLDEST OF ALL. I DONT CARE WHAT ELSE MAY HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE IAM HERE FOR MY FAMILY. BELIEVE IT OR NOT I DIDNT WANT ANYBODY DOING ANYTHING FOR US ANYWAY EXCEPT MY FAM,"CUZ" AS YOU ALL SAY BUT THANK YOU....HATERS AND LOVERS NOW COMMENT BACK ON THAT.......

Submitted by mysteryman on Sun, 01/18/2009 - 12:55pm.

Everyones ok the fire is out, no can we move on to more pressing affairs folks, Our property taxes are about to skyrocket, our lifestyle is being degraded on a daily basis, by the thug nation crusing our streets looking for their next score. Our schools are broke, by the clowns running them, only concerned about their own personal gain. Store are closing in droves, people are walking away from their homes. Obama is going to step up to the mike on tuesday, lets all pray nothing stupid happens. But hey its allgood..BLESS

Submitted by Davids mom on Sun, 01/18/2009 - 2:57pm.

For those who believe that Obama 'steps up' alone on Tuesday, our country will be in deep trouble if your belief is true. We ALL have to step up and make the sacrifices and changes necessary to recover from this mess. Obama never said he would/could do it alone - the saying is YES WE CAN. At this point in our history, we can't afford to allow anything 'stupid' to happen. It's not going to be easy - but yes We can!

Submitted by mysteryman on Sun, 01/18/2009 - 5:59pm.

We are all in this together, that was my point, we do not have time to continue to put each other down, no matter the situation life is to short and this misdirection is what allowed us to get into this mess in the first place, while we were busy sniping and putting each other down the theives and cons were free to rob and steal, like taking candy from a baby, lets all hope for the best, and good luck to the new cheif were gonna need it...BLESS

Submitted by Davids mom on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 4:26pm.

Thank you John and The Citizen for making the good citizens of Fayetteville aware of the need of one of our neighbors. I hope you run a reminder if assistance is still needed. The negative/hateful remarks found on this site do not represent the majority of the citizens in Fayetteville or the families of the students who attend the victims’ school and the school staff.
It is so disingenuous to praise the act of a young woman who has had a child out of wedlock as a 'blessed' event - and to criticize a woman (whose circumstances we don't know) for following her churches direction of not stopping the birth process.

Submitted by PreciousStahr on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 2:53pm.

Is the woman receiving any welfare such as food stamps, payments for the number of children, section 8 rent payments, free medical, etc.. from the government? If so, the real issue is income redistribution. That is, asking money for those who work and take care of themselves and giving it to those who don't. That's what hard working people don't like.

If it's just a matter of charitable donations and no welfare is involved, then no one should object because donations are not required by everyone. The children are her mistake. Welfare is the big issue to be discussed if the woman is receiving it. What are the facts?

Submitted by Davids mom on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 4:36pm.

Do you really think that raising 10 children does not require 'work'? There are those who feel strongly that 'children' are not a mistake. Were you a mistake? The real issue here is that there are humans in Fayetteville that need some immediate help because they lost everything in a fire. We are not being asked to support them for the rest of the year - just offer some immediate help during an extreme emergency situation. If she is receiving help from the 'government' - her needs will be met. The need to know if she is receiving government help is none of our business at this point.

Submitted by Tanisha on Fri, 01/16/2009 - 11:44pm.

IT'S FUNNY HOW PEOPLE TRY TO KNOCK PEOPLE DOWN WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY DOWN AND HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY BUT AT THE SAME TIME THESE FOLKS ARE NOT IT THE CONDITION TO TALK.... I AM A COUSIN TO THIS FAMILY, AND I DONT BELIEVE THE FEED BACK THAT I HAVE BEEN READING!!! SO WHAT SHE HAS 10 KIDS YOU DONT HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, NEITHER DO YOU HAVE TO SLEEP WITH HER TO MAKE THEM, AND IF IT WASN'T FOR THIS TRAGEDY YOU WOULD HAVE NEVER KNOWN ABOUT HER....MY THING IS IF YOU AINT GOT NOTHING GOOD TO SAY DONT SAY ANYTHING AT ALL!! SHE DIDN'T PERSONALLY COME TO YOU AND ASK FOR ASSISTANCE SO IF YOU CANT HELP LEAVE IT BE..... COMMENTS LIKE THESE SHOULD CONDEMN YOU ALL TO HELL, AND I MEAN EACH AND EVERYONE WHO HAVE A NEGATIVE OUTLOOK ON THE SITUATION.....AND WHY EVERYBODY MAKING ALL THESE WORDLY DONATIONS...HOW ABOUT I MAKE ONE...LETS SAY SINCE YOU ALL CAN POST AND VOICE YOUR NEGATIVE OPINIONS, LETS JUST SAY WE MAKE APPOINTMENTS FOR YOU ALL TO FEEL FREE TO BRING HER THE FREE BIRTH CONTROL YOU SAY THE DOCTORS SHOULD HAVE PRESCRIBED TO HER.....LETS SEE HOW MUCH OFF A COWARD YOU REALLY ARE....NOW HOW YOU LIKE THAT!!

Submitted by AtHomeGym on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 7:45pm.

How pitiful. If you think you're helping, you're wrong. And if you're not capable of self-analysis to understand the damage you do, that's even more sad. All you do is reinforce what may be negative opinions of some readers. If you earn as much as you infer, then you should be able to keep the family (your kin) above the severe suffering level. Make it happen. Oh, you might want to check out "Hooked on phonics".

Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 8:53am.

I won't give you or your family a dime. This is proof that gov. handouts don't work. Instead of working hard to make something of your life, you are ungrateful and expect more handouts.

First of all I'm paying way TOO MUCH in taxes to support ungrateful people like you.

No one owes you a thing. Now get to work. Stop having kids if you can't support them, because nobody else wants to pay for them either.

Submitted by Tanisha on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 11:47am.

WHAT YOU IMBECILES FELL TO REALIZE IS THAT EITHER WAY IT GOES YOUR TAXES MONEY IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ANYBODY IN NEED, AND IF IT WAS NOT FOR THIS TRAGEDY YOU MORONIC PEOPLE WOULD HAVE NEVER KNOWN ABOUT HER!!!! AND FOR EVERY OUNCE OF YOUR STUPIDITY YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY AMERICAN PAYING TAXES....THE GOVERNMENT (FOR THE ILLITERATE ONE WHO DOES NOT KNOW THE CORRECT SPELLING)TAKES TAXES OUT OF EVERY WORKING INDIVIDUAL....I HAVE A WELL PAYING JOB AND SURVIVE EXTREMELY WELL AT MY AGE I PROBABLY GROSS MORE IN A WEEK THAN YOU ALL DO IN A YEAR (BELIEVE THAT) I KNOW BECAUSE IT ONLY TAKE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO LIFE AND JOB TO SIT HERE AND CRITICIZE OTHERS WHEN THEY ARE DOWN...SO YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT HELPING ME, YOUR HELPING HER AND HER IMMEDIATE FAMILY!!! JUST BECAUSE THE 2 OF YOU WONT HELP HER BELIEVE THAT GOD IS WORKING MIRACLES IN THE LIVES OF THE FAMILY. SO YOU ALL KEEP YOUR PENNY DONATIONS FOR YOURSELVES TO PAY FOR THE BASED ON INCOME HOMES THAT YOU ALL ARE LIVING IN, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS TAKING CARE OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES ALSO! PEOPLE LIKE YOU ALL AND YOUR NEGATIVITY SHOULD BE CONDEMNED TO HELL!!
NOW ON ANOTHER NOTE.......THE FAMILY GREATLY APPRECIATES THE HELP OF ALL THOSE WHO ARE HELPING HER, THANKS FOR YOUR PRAYERS AND YOUR DONATIONS!!!!!

Submitted by PreciousStahr on Sun, 01/18/2009 - 12:00pm.

Tanishaに、私があなたが批判したもので誰が英語が私の4番目のものの4つの言語を話します。 これのように、私にそれをあなたに出させてください。

あなたは非常に口をきかない人です。 あなたは、石鹸で洗われた口を必要としています。 あなたは明らかに甘やかされた腐った黒人のガキです。 私がどこから来るか私たちが猛烈に働いて、持っていることに感謝します。 それであなたは私のご機嫌をとります。
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A Tanisha,

Je suis l'un vous avez critiqué qui parle 4 langues dont anglais est mon quart. Le me permettre de mettre vous aimez ceci.

Vous êtes une personne très muette. Vous avez besoin de votre bouche s'est enlevé avec le savon. Vous êtes évidemment un marmot noir, pourri et gâté. Où je viens de nous travaillons dur et apprécie que nous avons. Donc vous embrassez mon âne.
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Soy el uno usted criticó que habla 4 idiomas de que inglés es mi cuarto. Permita que mí pongalole quiere esto.

Usted es una persona muy muda. Usted necesita la boca lavó con jabón. Usted es obviamente un mocoso fatal negra estropeada. Dónde yo vengo de trabaja duro y aprecia lo que tenemos. Así que usted besa mi asno.

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Sun, 01/18/2009 - 12:45pm.

Wow, you can swear in three languages, albeit with incorrect syntax for French.

Stay classy.


Submitted by Davids mom on Sun, 01/18/2009 - 12:10pm.

Don't you realize that those programs that 'translate' are a joke? Cal, this guy is using foul (inappropriate) language in more than one language.

Submitted by MYTMITE on Sun, 01/18/2009 - 12:01am.

Please, please share with me where I can get a job like yours? Is experience necessary? age? do you have to remain in an upright position all the time? I never had a 'well' paying job--did have several good paying ones but never, never one of the magnitude of yours. I wish I had known of that type of job and salary when I was much younger. If I had, I would be able to bail out the whole country with one check. See, I am charity oriented--just haven't had the bigh bucks to spread. When I had those good paying jobs, paying my mortgage, bills and feeding and clothing my children and myself took quite a bit and then that darn old Uncle Sam ( who is pretty charitable himself--at least to some people!) took a big chunk. Guess he thought I wasn't capable of deciding just where I should spread my wealth and being the good guy he is decided to do it for me. So now, I'm old, not broke but a little bent and could really use some of those greenbacks you collect every month. Forget all these mean and nasty people on this site who do not appreciate you and your silver tongue--no pun intended--I am willing to be your very bestest friend ever if you will just share with me.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 6:45pm.

If you can find the time between tirades maybe you can fill us in on what she has now and what she can still use, I have a microwave she can have if she still needs one and can maybe dig up some girl clothes if you can supply some sizes.

I yam what I yam....Popeye


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Submitted by JeffC on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 5:01pm.

which is my favorite sentence.

1.WHAT YOU IMBECILES FELL TO REALIZE IS THAT EITHER WAY IT GOES YOUR TAXES MONEY IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ANYBODY IN NEED, AND IF IT WAS NOT FOR THIS TRAGEDY YOU MORONIC PEOPLE WOULD HAVE NEVER KNOWN ABOUT HER!!!!

This is high on the list. Claiming that we are “imbeciles” and not knowing the difference between “fell” and “fail” is priceless. Don't'cha think?

2.THE GOVERNMENT (FOR THE ILLITERATE ONE WHO DOES NOT KNOW THE CORRECT SPELLING)TAKES TAXES OUT OF EVERY WORKING INDIVIDUAL.

Well, they certainly take taxes out of me. Sometimes it gets bloody gruesome too.

3.I HAVE A WELL PAYING JOB AND SURVIVE EXTREMELY WELL AT MY AGE I PROBABLY GROSS MORE IN A WEEK THAN YOU ALL DO IN A YEAR (BELIEVE THAT) I KNOW BECAUSE IT ONLY TAKE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO LIFE AND JOB TO SIT HERE AND CRITICIZE OTHERS WHEN THEY ARE DOWN.

I'm not sure that technically this is a sentence. However, if she grosses more than we do she must surely be very good at what she does? Imagination runs wild but I'm guessing that she is not an English teacher.

4.SO YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT HELPING ME, YOUR HELPING HER AND HER IMMEDIATE FAMILY!

Almost had a good one there; blew it with the “your” instead of “you're” though.

5.JUST BECAUSE THE 2 OF YOU WONT HELP HER BELIEVE THAT GOD IS WORKING MIRACLES IN THE LIVES OF THE FAMILY.

Skyspy, a question if I may? Why aren't you helping her believe that God is working miracles?

6a. SO YOU ALL KEEP YOUR PENNY DONATIONS FOR YOURSELVES TO PAY FOR THE BASED ON INCOME HOMES THAT YOU ALL ARE LIVING IN,

This part was a little confusing. “Based on income homes...”? The house that I bought was determined to a large extent by my income and that down payment thing. I forgot for a minute that Carter implemented the CRA and Clinton modified it so that whole “income” part is obsolete. Still, I don't think I should be criticized for having a “based on income home”. That was the rule when I bought it.

6b. (after the comma) BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS TAKING CARE OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES ALSO!

Oh my, a thought almost too terrible to even contemplate. Skyspy is on welfare and he has multiple families? Wait 'till Git Real finds out where his tax dollars are really going!

Regardless, the Porter's are in need and apparently her uber-wealthy cousin is not stepping up to the plate. I urge everyone to help that can.


Submitted by Bonkers on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 7:02pm.

No sich person exists

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Submitted by Git Real on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 6:08pm.

It's so unlike you. LOL! Sometimes the temptation is too irresistible to ignore some posters, isn't it? I always enjoy characters like Tarnisha signing on just to show us how intelligement they beez wif their superior edumacated status. It's such a hoot to poke 'em in the ribs a bit and then watch 'em come unglued. It's kind of like going over the Alabama State Line and grabbing one their residents, dragging him over to our side, putting shoes on him, and then turning him loose while watching them buck until they get used to the shoes.

But I'm actually very thankful for Tarnisha and the fact that she earns in excess of over $20,000,000 dollars a year. Her tax contributions alone should take care of cuz very comfortably and keep white trash like Sky Spy and myself off the streets and fed.


Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 5:13pm.

This is tanisha's brain on drugs. Just say no to drugs or this could happen to you.

Life is hard work with some miracles sprinkled in between the hard times.

Also I'm not on welfare, because my parents taught me that hard work never killed anyone. I worked 2 jobs for many years after college to get where I'm at today. Was it fun? NO! Of course not. If I did it anyone can.

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Submitted by JeffC on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 9:05pm.

Tanisha was pretty certain that you were and her argument was compelling and eruditely expressed. Who am I supposed to believe; someone who makes more money than all of us combined or some welfare bum with multiple families scattered all across the county?


Submitted by Chow on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 4:49pm.

So Tarnisha says she makes more money than all us stupid people. A useless government job paid by taxpayers no doubt? How much cash savings do you have excluding your pension? People like you think that government is God and takes care of everyone. Tarnisha you are a communistic socialist! You think everyone is a stupid imbecile. Based on IQ’s there are three kinds of ignorant people; imbeciles with IQ’s from 75-80, Morons with IQ’s from 65-74 and Idiots with IQ’s below 65. Based on your ignorance, you would be classified as an Idiot. That makes all us imbeciles and morons smarter than you.

And for your statement about other people’s spelling, here is your English lesson. You used “fell” for fail, not “take people”, but takes people, not “your helping”, but you are or you’re helping is correct English. The woman you criticized about her spelling speaks 4 languages and English is not her native language, but English is your native language Tarnisha.

You also contradict yourself by saying, “you are not the only American paying taxes”. Then you say, “we all know the government is taking care of you also”. Well, I do pay useless, down the toilet taxes, but I never received any government help and don’t want it. By the way, I’m already condemned to be in hell, living in a welfare State. But you are going to be in hell on earth as soon as the depression puts you on the unemployed list. One more thing, my home is not based on my income, it’s based on savings that I used to pay for it in full. Your over-mortgaged home will be foreclosed on when you lose your job in the depression.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 2:03pm.

we have a live one here.
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Submitted by Git Real on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 6:10pm.

Whatcha wanna bet her home was probably foreclosed on recently? Eye-wink


Submitted by winer on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 1:46pm.

If you make more in a week than all "us" people make in a year, I suggest you step up to the plate and take care of your family. I just took a break from going through closets searching for shoes in the correct sizes. Now it is a permanent break! I was looking for clarification of what to do with the donations.

There have been times in my life when I could have used a little extra help. I could have asked family members but chose not to do that. I didn't want to be obligated to listen to their unsolicted advice. And the little digs and comments that get worked into the conversation over the years. Family can be like that - you have to take the good with the bad. I guess when the community is asked to step in to help with a tragedy, we shouldn't be surprised if some advice comes along for the ride. Your family has my prayers.

Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 12:03pm.

This is why I gave thousands of dollars to the humane society and none to charities for people this year.

The animals are grateful for what they receive and don't display a negative attitude.

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Submitted by diva on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 12:13pm.

My littlest animal just ate my favorite pair of leather gloves, which were the perfect balance of soft yet durable after three years of breaking in!!!!!!! Guess that's her way of saying don't leave me in a kennel ten days!


Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 12:29pm.

Jezzz, serves you right! 10 days???

My animals are fat and sassy as usual.

You are right about this other topic. I tried to lay low until tanisha started in. Thats when I lost it. I don't think this whole count to 10 thing is working for me today. I'll have to chill. I'll concentrate my anger at our politicians and criminals. Wow, did I just put politicians and criminals in 2 seperate categories. Ok, I'm definitly losing it.

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Submitted by diva on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 12:33pm.

You're not losing it...... you're getting it Smiling


Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 12:42pm.

By the way I'm still in the middle of my project. I have heard that 4 out of 5 Dr's recomend sanding cabinets as good therapy for broken fingers. Seriously. I will gladly pay you in adult beverages for your help.

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Submitted by diva on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 12:56pm.

And know the permanent flipping off is purely an unfortunate, yet temporary condition.


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Submitted by Git Real on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 12:25am.

I think you just blew it in regards to soliciting monies for your cuz. After reading your trash comments it'll be a cold day in hell before my family gives a nickel that the gumament hasn't already taken from us to support insane mental cases such as you and your compost producing and baby making cousin.

NOW GO AWAY AND STOP ACTING LIKE SOME CLAYTON COUNTY GUMAMENT EDUMACATED DROP OUT. Smiling


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Submitted by diva on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 12:11pm.

Git: Personal responsibility. No one speaks for you but you. No one speaks for me but me. To somehow condemn the victim of this fire as a "compost producing and baby making cousin" because of "Tanisha's" words is a very, very low blow from a man I respect so much. Skyspy says count to ten. That's a good idea.

Sky, again; these are not the words of the fire victim. The fire victim has not asked us for any handouts. The victim is just trying, I'm sure, to keep her very real children alive and fed. We can't turn the clock back. These kids exist. I thought conservatism was pro family and, in general, anti-abortion.

People have kids when they have relations. Outside of China, reproductive limits are not set generally. The pros and cons of living in a free country are readily apparent, but I don't think the answer is to beat up moms of multiple kids that we know very little about outside of them being victims of a fire.

TANISHA: STOP YELLING AT US! I, from the first moment this story broke, have been very sympathetic to this family. So many other people have expressed good will and sympathy as well. You are defecating on that good will Tanisha! I agree that there have been ignorant posters on this story. Address them personally. But to unload your shotgun of misspelled insults on the entire blogosphere does not help you or your cousins.

In essence, we all have failed here. This is a quite embarrassing blog which does not represent any of us well. Hopefully we will all learn from this FAILURE.

WWWMD?

ps. Git, sorry I missed you 4 Jan. My violent habits came back to bite me Sad (my left middle finger in particular). Where's that Universal Healthcare anyway????

pps. Tanisha: You very obviously know nothing of Git or Skyspy's personal or financial lives, so it's probably best not to make yourself look any more, well.... ignorant of facts.


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Submitted by Git Real on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 6:16pm.

"compost producing and baby making cousin"

Just stirring the pot my friend and lighting the fuse of this nutcase to set her off. Eye-wink


Submitted by Davids mom on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 4:46pm.

To somehow condemn the victim of this fire as a "compost producing and baby making cousin" because of "Tanisha's" words is a very, very low blow from a man I respect so much.

There is a special place in heaven for you Diva. God is not through with me yet - I have NO respect for the likes of 'this man'.

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Submitted by Git Real on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 6:17pm.

Pfffffffftttt.... Smiling


Submitted by Brandi on Wed, 01/14/2009 - 1:04pm.

Some of the comments that I have read shocked me. Yes, there is a father in the house. However, being that he is more concerned for his family welfare he does not ask for anything. And the joke on the Birth control is a little too late. She can not have anymore children. When I received the call last Wednesday, I was in shock, I rushed there to find everything that family worked for gone. I would like to thank Allan Vigil Ford and the woman who was at Allan Vigil who put aside what she was doing to help someone in need. In times like this I would like to see people working together and not making ASSumptions and insinuations.

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Submitted by Fred Garvin on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 12:36pm.

???


Submitted by risky on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 7:19pm.

Just because there are 8 children in this family does not mean they have different fathers. And it has been indicated that the FATHER is a member of the household. So don't be so quick to judge others!

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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Tue, 01/13/2009 - 7:27am.

Heard this on Imus when Ray Charles died.

Apparently Ray Charles had 11 children with 7 different women and he was not married to most of them. Imus' producer pointed out that "He would have been one great NBA player with a record like that - if he hadn't been blind"


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Submitted by Fred Garvin on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 9:14pm.

I was not insinuating or implying anything.

"Donations are being sought to help the family which consists of one mother and eight children, ranging in age from 3 months old to 17 years old."

No FATHER mentioned as part of the household.


Submitted by 1bighammer on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 4:13pm.

Fred,
OBAMA's going to be there Daddy now! Didn;t you know he's goin gto be all things to all people?

Submitted by 1bighammer on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 11:44am.

for the EIGHT kids. Hopefully Fayette will be generous. How about a doctor donating the mother some PERMANENT BIRTH CONTROL!

Submitted by msgapeach420 on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 6:06pm.

Why does it matter where the father(s)are? This fmily lost everything and all people can think about is the fathers and birth control. Those aren't the issues right now. The issues are helping this family in any way we can.

Submitted by Bonkers on Tue, 01/13/2009 - 8:23am.

Help the six kids with food, clothing and shelter. I;m sure the Red Cross, Salvation Army, and Welfare Department have already started to help. That will only last a while however.

Every time I see another family in South Atlanta. who has somehow allowed their apartments to burn down, speaking into the TV camera asking for help, and the fact that they have nothing, have no food, have no money, have no shelter, and feel as if they are "owed" everything, I think maybe somehow they could have avoided at least part of their troubles!

It is the same with every shooting of teenagers, or younger, in the same kind of interview except their is a circus going on of supposed mourning in the background---not understanding why it happened to them! "Not understanding," why it is as clear as a sunny day what went on!
The community "protects" these thugs as best they can, claiming they just need another chance! Yet, they will be allowed to run free all night and day---knowing they are up to no good, just to get them out of the house where no Father or disciplining exists!

Yes, we can do both! "Both" meaning cooperation from all of the parent or parents and the neighborhood attitude about such lack of control!

The spokesperson in front of the TV camera always is saying," he was a good boy, yes he was--I don't know what happened!"
"He goes to school at least half of the time--that is pretty good--and would work some if somebody gave him a job!"
Or, "my daughters didn't have them babies by themselves, they had hep."

Yes, we can solve the problem with full cooperation!

Submitted by USArmybrat on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 7:15pm.

The point is that there are eight kids with their Mom that have lost everything but each other. I talked to the mother today and she said that they would appreciate anything but they really need things for the home now. You can drop off donations at the Fayette Middle School.

Submitted by PreciousStahr on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 6:30pm.

There is nothing wrong for someone asking the whereabouts of the father(s). Or to suggest for a doctors to give her birth control pills samples along with some other stuff. At this bad situation, just incase the father(s) will ever showed up, she cannot afford to add another baby. Besides, she's probably already on her 40's. So everyone when you send your donation, don't forget to throw few packs of birth control pills or rubbers in.

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Submitted by diva on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 8:10pm.

Ahh, the ever so predictable and cynical message of "pro family" *conservatives.

Birds of a feather, or should I say, cells of similar pathology obviously flock together. "Stahr," I replied here because I don't no dat u cood find ma post fi aye puted it anywear elst.
You make BPR look like a poet laureate with your brutal assault on the English language.

Some pointers for you and the refuse receptacles known as hammer and counterfeit "fred" to ignore:

- The dynamics of this family in need is absolutely none of your business.

- The needs of this family are REAL, and if you don't choose to help, so be it, but to sit in blind judgment of this woman while knowing no actual facts of this family's life makes the three of you, quite amazingly, look more like anuses than I thought humanly possible. Could it be you aren't actually human, but actual anuses that have been trained to type, because that would, in a strange way, explain quite a bit.


Submitted by 1bighammer on Tue, 01/13/2009 - 8:58am.

I never made a comment about NOT helping this family because there was no father involved. I simply asked about the birth control as a means of reducing the hardship on this family later. One mother Eight kids...for Gods sake, we know they aren't Catholic or Mormons.

As for your ANUS comments Diva...Well it takes on to know one!

Submitted by PreciousStahr on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 9:52pm.

Soorry if i brutali salted the english language. Butt u r welcome to re-wright it 4 me. Thanx..

Pms: U r so perfeque and very classy. I wis u happenis.

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Submitted by diva on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 10:07pm.

Judging from your "contribution" to this family which was as follows:

"So everyone when you send your donation, don't forget to throw few packs of birth control pills or rubbers in."

You might save all of your wishes for yourself. Me thinks you could benefit from some personal home improvement. But can't we all?


Submitted by USArmybrat on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 8:55pm.

Can you tell me what was so predictable and cynical about my comments, as I am a "pro-family" conservative, also? I think people from both sides of the aisle can post things that are not very thoughtful, huh?

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Submitted by diva on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 9:02pm.

directly to mine.....

I rest my case.


Submitted by USArmybrat on Tue, 01/13/2009 - 9:47am.

Anytime you decide to lump all conservatives together as being uncaring and cynical, I will call you on it. I also knew you would agree that the important thing is to help these kids. You know, liberals and conservatives both can care about the same things.

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Submitted by diva on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 12:23pm.

I went after *conservatives. I have blogged about *conservatives often. I guess you forgot that there is a difference between *conservatives and conservatives. Which one are you?

*Some restrictions apply. Moral outrage is situational depending on party of offender. Patriotism conditional on party of critic and or criticized person or persons. Presidential deference limited to present or past Presidents who are members of the GOP. Attacks on war veterans will not be allowed unless such war veteran is currently in or seeking a political position as a registered democrat, at which point, regardless of limbs lost or medals won, said individual's character, patriotism, and literal love of country is "fair" game. Abortion is always to be referred to as "killing babies," yet babies of non-affluent women (particularly those on government assistance)are to be berated, denegrated, and used as political fodder to advance cause of lowering taxes and ending social programs.


Submitted by USArmybrat on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 6:16pm.

I thought we were talking about these kids and their loss. Where did all that come from, Mr. Diva? Remember you can drop donations off at Fayette Middle School. They really need items for home if any of you guys can contribute.

Submitted by mysteryman on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 8:01pm.

So should she have another kid, she will have to upgrade to an Excursion. BLESS..

Submitted by PreciousStahr on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 6:27pm.

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