We're gonna support Barry just like you and yours have supported Bush. After all, he too was selected by voters in the USA.

I have always respected the office of the President of the USA.
Once, I was on a flight to LAX when retired President Carter came onboard. Many people came to shake his hand. The Captain suggested that Carter walk down the cabin and say hello to all and that way we could leave the gate on time. One man refused to shake Carter's hand and refused to acknowledge his presence, his tight jaws and red face showed what he felt about our ex-president. I was embarrassed by his lack of respect.
For better or worse Bush was our President. Even though he stole the vote in Florida.

Come on get over 2000 and 2004...
Every re-count showed Bush won.. so stop living in the past..
Now the pendulum has swung hard left and Barry is in...
Like MOC said we will support him just like you guys supported Bush.. The only difference will be the Media.. They'll have tinglely feelings running up their legs everyday..

jealous of the popular kids, and wondering why they don't get the same attention. Fine with me, but it's a bit humorous. True Spartans don't bitch nearly as much as what I've heard from you and the crew ever since our new president won the democratic nomination.

At any rate, I think you and your gang's main misunderestimation....misunderstanding is that the critiques of President Bush are based on his actions as President, his statements made, the people he chose to surround himself with, and their actions. I would humbly submit that his presidency is not one to use as a benchmark. But I'm so ready to move on.

SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

I don't know if Bush stole the vote in Florida. I always thought that it was just too close to call and the Court thought to call it the best they could figure it was meant to be.

I did not vote for President Carter and he was not my favorite President. I would not, however, disrespect him publicly or privately. He at least tried to serve and did the best he thought was right. We increasingly make it impossible for public servants to please anyone. Sometimes they bring it on themselves but the microscope they serve under probably prevents many good men from attempting public service at all.

If you're a construction worker you don't find your name plastered across the world if you failed to lay a floor or intern incorrectly.

The Gore Exception

A very humorous account of the judicial activism that went into the tortured legal reasoning behind Bush v. Gore
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Just watched his last speech. No doubt about it- worst president ever

Torture, Iraq, recession.

"Nothing wrong with torture, we went over there so they wouldnt come here."

Do you still wonder why democrats were elected by majority in The House and Senate, and a guy named Barack Hussein Obama won the Presidency? It might have something to do with your party's willingness to redefine who we are as a nation and what we consider "wrong." Nothing wrong with torture?

If there is nothing wrong with torture, why did Dick Cheney say Sunday before last that we never torture? Why has nearly former President Bush said we never torture? Nothing's wrong with torture, right?

Why did Judge Susan Crawford, a life long republican, admitting we tortured Mohammed al-Qahtani prevent him from EVER being prosecuted? there's nothing wrong with torture... right?

Your concern for the less fortunate has touched my heart but it's just hard to tone down an event celebrating the end of the Bush/Cheney administration.

For keeping our country safe for the past 8 years, and having the strength and integrity to not waiver in that goal and make decisions based on public opinion polls.

Aren't you forgetting 9/11 which happened 9 months into Bush's term? Clinton kept us safe just as long after the first Trade Center bombing which happened without warning (PDB: Bin Laden Determined to Strike Within the United States) and Clinton's team caught the bombers and prosecuted them.

More revisionist history.

Here are some real facts What did Clinton do?
1. Feb 26 1993- World Trade Center Attack 6 Americans killed 1000 injured
2. Nov 13 1995-Military Training center Riyadh 5 Americans Killed
3. June 25 1996-Khobar Towers 19 Americans Killed 300 Injured
4. August 7 1998- US Embassies Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam Tanzania 224 Americans Killed 5000 injured
5. October 12 2000-USS COLE 17 Americans Killed 37 Injured..
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/clinton.asp
Yep.. Clinton was on the ball alright.. His in-action made the Terrorist think they could hit us without reprisals.. and they did over and over.. Just how many terroist attacks after we hit the Taliban has there been in America or American assets?
Yep.. Clinton did a bang up job...

The perpetrators of the first Trade Center attack were caught and convicted, Saudi Arabia captured and beheaded the attackers of the Military Training Center, the leaders of the embassy bombings were captured and sentenced to life without parole

The Cole? Determination of the responsibility for the Cole attack wasn't known until after Bush took office. Here is a quote from "Hearing transcript from 2004-04-08". 911 Commission:

According to Dr. Rice, the decision not to respond militarily to the Cole bombing was President Bush's. She said he "made clear to us that he did not want to respond to al Qaeda one attack at a time. He told me he was 'tired of swatting flies'.”

The Clinton administration left a comprehensive strategy plan against al-Qaeda which was ignored. The Bush administration has repeatedly denied that the document existed even though the cover transmittal memo from Richard Clarke was leaked:

Presidential Policy Initiative Review

In “Against All Enemies” Clarke writes: “.. on January 24th, 2001, I wrote a memo to Condoleezza Rice asking for, urgently -- underlined urgently -- a Cabinet-level meeting to deal with the impending al Qaeda attack. And that urgent memo-- wasn't acted on.”

Clarke's first meeting on terrorism was four months later with Paul Wolfowitz, "I began saying, 'We have to deal with bin Laden; we have to deal with al Qaeda.' Paul Wolfowitz, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, said, 'No, no, no. We don't have to deal with al Qaeda. Why are we talking about that little guy? We have to talk about Iraqi terrorism against the United States.' "And I said, 'Paul, there hasn't been any Iraqi terrorism against the United States in eight years!' And I turned to the deputy director of the CIA and said, 'Isn't that right?' And he said, 'Yeah, that's right. There is no Iraqi terrorism against the United States."

Clarke writes about the CIA: "George Tenet was saying to the White House, saying to the president - because he briefed him every morning - a major al Qaeda attack is going to happen against the United States somewhere in the world in the weeks and months ahead. He said that in June, July, August."

The first Bush administration Cabinet level meeting on terrorism (which the Clinton administration had been holding weekly) can one week before 9/11.

Have you ever read Eleanor Hill's (staff director for the joint House-Senate inquiry into alleged intelligence failures ahead of the Sept. 11 attacks) report?

The report details a July 2001 briefing for senior government officials that said a review of five months of intelligence information indicated "that [Bin Laden] will launch a significant attack against U.S. and/or Israeli interests in the coming weeks... The attack will be spectacular and designed to inflict mass casualties against U.S. facilities or interests."

Hill's report also said the National Security Agency, which monitors communications worldwide, reported at least 33 communications between May and July 2001 suggesting a "possible, imminent terrorist attack."

August 6, 2001 PDB: “"Bin Laden determined to attack inside the U.S.,"

Every terrorist attack which happened under Clinton was met with reprisals until they stopped with the Bush administration's negligence after the Cole attackers.

You can't rewrite history.

You forgot to mention that Clinton passed up more than one change to take out Bin Laden himself.

Clinton: 'I Tried and Failed' to Get Osama. Bold face lie. But thats nothing new for Slick Willie. Clinton refused to kill bin Laden 8-10 times. The hard fact remains that each time we acquired actionable intelligence about bin Laden's whereabouts. The CIA argued for preemptive action. By May 1998, after all, al-Qaeda had hit or helped to hit five U.S. targets, and bin Laden had twice declared war on America.

Every terrorist attack which happened under Clinton was met with reprisals . Again false and its revisionist history.

"The notion somehow for eight months the Bush administration sat there and didn't do that is just flatly false and I think the 9/11 Commission understood that," Rice has said over & over again.

"We were not left a comprehensive strategy to fight al-Qaida," she told the newspaper.

Clinton in 8 years allowed Osama to bcome stonger while repetedly ingnoring the ever escalating terrorist activities. While only in office for 8 months we now know Bush was already formulating plans to remove Osama and his men.

His liberal psychology precluded him and his staff from seeing and tackling security issues related to terrorist and other threats against the US . Their mindset always will.

And the world community reads news papers and knows that Clinton did not have the necessary components to take any decisive action to ensure US security and treated him accordingly. Contrast the cooperation that Yemen gave Clinton with the total support Yemen has given Bush.

Because of our involvement in Vietnam (given to the US by Pres Johnson and Robert McNamara !), his mistrust of Intelligence and Military establishments , Clinton as a war protestor would not allow any intelligence or military actions take place to reduce or delay the inevitable escalation of terrorist attacks by Osama and others.

He could not lead the nation and drum up support for what need to take place... a war to stop terror.

As a side note: I don’t know if any of you are old enough to recall a man named Mohmar Kadafi the Libyan Dictator.

While Regan was president it was determined that that Kadfii had killed a US servicemen in a Berlin disco bombing and that Kadafi might be behind the Locker bee TWA airplane bombing. Reagan’s response was decisive, quick despite worldwide condemnation he bombed Kadafi’s house! France would not even allow US planes to land for refueling. Reagan did not submit months or proof to the UN and begin begging for Worldwide support for action to stem the escalating tide of terror against the US he acted UNILATERLY.

To this day we have never had another single instance of terror from that man or regime!

Jeff read on..

The Attack on the USS Cole

The establishment media helped the Clinton administration put on a good face in the aftermath of the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen in October 2000. 60 Minutes aired an interview with Clinton's "terrorism czar" Richard Clarke, who was responsible for counter-terrorism at the National Security Council. He told Lesley Stahl that the U.S. was trying to determine who staged that attack, and suggested it may have been committed by Osama bin Laden. He also warned that terrorists have infiltrated the U.S. and that it was just a matter of time before American territory was the site of a nuclear, biological or chemical attack. If this was true, it was because Clinton had allowed such a situation to develop. But that's not the conclusion Stahl came to. Bin Laden took credit for the attack on the Cole but no retribution was ever exacted for that. Mylroie says Iraq probably assisted in this attack.

The Clinton administration's handling of the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia became a subject of some controversy in the media. Bin Laden was suspected of bankrolling this terrorist incident, which left 19 American servicemen dead and scores injured, and which was reportedly carried out with Iranian government support. The evidence connecting Iran to the plot was the subject of a report by John McWethy of ABC World News Tonight, who cited overwhelming evidence of Iranian involvement. He said the evidence included U.S. intercepts of Iranian communications and admissions of Iranian involvement by the bombers themselves. McWethy said the bombers were recruited by Iran during a trip to an Islamic meeting in Syria, took religious training in Iran, and terrorist training in Lebanon. Kenneth R. Timmerman has also cited evidence of an Iranian link to the Khobar Towers bombing. However, Saudi Arabia was reluctant to provide evidence on the Iranian role, and the Clinton administration put the blame on Osama bin Laden. Still, no retaliation was ordered. The August 2, 1996 USA Today identified a network of 11 different terrorist-training facilities in Iran, citing classified U.S. intelligence documents. Yet no U.S. action was ever been taken by Clinton against those camps

and you are correct.. you can not re-write history.. but you can ignore it and insert your own reality.

Yes, I know the talking point. Right wing claptrap. The idea that Monica took so much of Clinton's time that he couldn't do anything else is silly. Even with Viagra you gotta call the doctor after 4 hours.

I've got a huge list (which I will mercifully omit) of all the Republican's denigrating Clinton for attacking bin Laden's base with cruise missiles in their "Wag the Dog" scenario. Do you have even one example of actionable intelligence that Clinton received and then ignored?

Aint it cool, oh yeah..I like cruise missiles, especially the ones with the Alpha and Omega symbol on the side of the warhead....PEACE..

as the democrats hosed him down in his jail cell?

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Do you have even one example of actionable intelligence that Clinton received and then ignored?
I would ask you a simular question.. Do you have any evidence the Bush knew that there were no WMDs and he just Lied to everyone and gullable as Congress is just believed it..?
Wake up and smell the coffee.. They both screwed us.. your just to screwed into the Democrats rectums to recognize it...as for your question read on..
BIN LADEN GATE By Cliff Kincaid

Several Clinton administration top officials appeared on television to express their surprise and anger over the terrorist attacks on New York City and the Pentagon by agents of Osama bin Laden. But just two years ago, they were accepting help from bin Laden in NATO's war on Yugoslavia. They were assisting the Kosovo Liberation Army which bin Laden was assisting with fighters trained in his camps in Afghanistan.

A story by Jerry Seper in the Washington Times on May 4, 1999, reported, "Some members of the Kosovo Liberation Army, which has financed its war effort through the sale of heroin, were trained in terrorist camps run by international fugitive Osama bin Laden—who is wanted in the 1998 bombing of two U.S. embassies in Africa that killed 224 persons, including 12 Americans." Seper said that newly obtained intelligence reports showed that the KLA had enlisted Islamic terrorists in its conflict with Serbia and that bin Laden's organization, known as al-Qaeda, had both trained and financially supported the KLA, which had been labeled a terrorist group by a Clinton State Department official.
Despite that, General Wesley Clark, who was NATO's supreme commander during the war in Kosovo, said in a September 14th column in the Washington Post that the U.S. must use decisive force against international terrorism. He had worked closely with the KLA during the war, implementing a Clinton policy that ignored more serious human rights problems in other parts of the world. The Clinton administration, for example, remained largely indifferent to the persecution of Christians in Sudan, where an Islamic regime has killed almost 2 million people and was, for a time, Osama bin Laden's home.

Want more I got it...Bin Laden flew and Clinton knew...

Many people argue here but few refute my facts.

Clinton's Bin Laden-gate because bin Laden supposedly trained the KLA? The first US support that bin Laden got was from the Reagan administration to help fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. Covert aid was funneled to bin Laden and the mujahideen in March 1985 by Reagan authorized by National Security Decision Directive 166. So what? The covert aid continued the Carter administration policy and the policies were correct, the Soviets at the time being vastly more threatening than Islamic extremist then or now.

Your 1999 article faults Clinton for: “The Clinton administration, for example, remained largely indifferent to the persecution of Christians in Sudan...”. Exactly so. I couldn't find Jerry Seper's followup article about how the Bush administration had solved that problem.

I wasn't particularly fond of many aspects of the Clintonistas foreign policy. However, the charge that Clinton dropped the ball on combating terrorism and Bush kept us safe is a pure denial of history. I can post example after example (see above) of Bush ignoring intelligence and I noticed that you choose not to respond to my Clinton/actionable intelligence question.

As to partisanship, yep, my side does it better. Now it's time for my guy to prove it.

if it lasts four hours I'm not the one who's going to need the doctor. I heard the yellow ones last three days, those are for the democrats. Republicans can't stand to lay in bed for three days.

You should meet some Democratic women. You might change your mind about what you can stand.

So So So true......

Let me see if I can write some garbage like Garvin did and not crack a smile, or bust out laughing!

Now then:

One of the most intelligent, wonderful Presidents of the USA is retiring next Tuesday. He will get on the big plane maybe for the last time and head for Tecksass.
Whomever got the two term law passed did us all a great disfavor in this particular situation. Good law for Clinton however; no wars much, surplus budgets, free love, and who could forget the welfare reductions? Shameful stuff.
What I am suggesting however is that we allow George the Great (as opposed to Sir Ronaldo's, title) be allowed to make suggestions to our new President when it concerns war or budgetary items. Also, advice as to how to avoid recessions and depressions, and just how far to allow business and banks to go with credit!
He could also be useful as to what to do with left-over federal prosecuting attorneys.
Intelligence and torture usefulness was another of his strongest points.
If the new president doesn't listen and do the suggestions, I suggest we impeach him.

Your name suits you well..

You have reestablished Integrity, Class and Dignity in the White House.
I will be eternally grateful to you for keeping my family safe.
I have always felt pride and trust with you as our President, will always think of you as a true example of "Country First".

You are a good man and I know that when barry screws up you will be privately laughing your head off but in public you will be a gentleman.

In a generation where gentlemen are outnumbered 10-1 by opportunistic sleazy brats, you are a lighthouse.

Let us hear from you now and then,sir. And God bless you.

I guess none of your family members are in Iraq fighting Bush's war. Those are the brave people keeping you safe. Your ridiculous post is unbelievable. What a stupid, disillusioned, pathetic Republican. I pity you.

Would you mind explaining just how having troops occupying Iraq is keeping me safe?

How many of the 9/11 terrorists were Iraqi?

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They are there fighting and dying not here. You get it now?

The people who are fighting us because we are occupying their country would come attack our country using the air force and navy they do not have if we were not in their country.

The Al Qaeda types who still hate us would come here using the air force and navy they don't have if only we were not in Iraq. So, my brilliant military tactician. How would Al Qaeda, in the current environment, come here and kill us?

A. The Santa Maria
B. One of those Richard Branson globe-orbiting rocket capsules
C. Tickets on Pan Am?

Would they use the new customs fast pass?

The Democrats voted for "Bush's war".. They screamed loud and proud to go after Saddam... and just how many votes have been taken to remove our troops? NONE Your Democrats talk a good game, but when it's put up or shut up time.. The silence is deafening.

Worst. President. Ever.

I think that's three sentences, but I get your drift. I voted for him his first term, lost a large percentage of my net worth during his second. I should add however, that I had one of those .21 percent mortgages during the Carter administration so my jury is still out on "Worst president ever."

I like the acronym you created though...what would that be? WPE!!!!

Something stinks alright and it was the Carter years.. Clinton was'nt much better...
and except for the war on Terror this one was'nt great either..
"Worst. President. Ever." nah not even close...

Worst. President. Ever.

and they are usally full of it too... but ain't America great..We can sit here and type out our frustrations.. without having the Gestapo coming to get us.. have to go someone is beating on my door and I

You almost had us there for a minute or two. You are good! You really had us believe you were not writing tongue in cheek! Way to go--I needed a good laugh today.

"You have reestablished Integrity, Class and Dignity in the White House." The world, plus 70+% of our own country, hate him. He has "reestablished" zilch, you kool-aid drinker.

"...you are a lighthouse." Yes, he is the lighthouse that our country followed, right off the cliff.

Hey Fred, pass the bong, you've had enough.

Historically, the Friday and Saturday before a new president is inaugurated is when the outgoing president issues a blizzard of presidential pardons.

I wonder how many pardons the Decider will issue?

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I think there were 47 people that Clinton didn't pardon because they were already dead or missing. Those that were involved with Whitewater, the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case, the Morgan Guarantee scandal, the numerous sex scandal(s) folks and other various crimes, etc, etc, etc.

I guess we can count on some more dirt nap stories, now that the third Clinton administration is about to start.

I'm not sayin'. I'm just sayin'. You know what I'm sayin'?

“Every time you vote Democrat God kills a kitten.”

I will let history decide if President Bush was right about Iraq and the war on terror. Unlike the past President, we didn't have to sut down abd explain to our kids why say Slick Willie can lie under oath and not be in jail like you or I would be in the same situation.

As he prepares to leave the White House after eight monumentally eventful years, what's the right standard for judging the performance of George W. Bush?

The basis for answering that question has changed radically over the course of the last seven years, very much to the president's detriment.

After the devastating attacks of September 11, 2001, and Bush's almost instantaneous rebirth as a determined "War President," most Americans expressed clear ideas of what they expected of the commander in chief. The conventional wisdom of the time declared that his presidency would rise or fall based on his ability to keep the nation safe.

If the United States sustained a series of crippling new attacks the world understood that history would judge Bush as a failure. If, against all odds, he succeeded in turning the tide against our terrorist adversaries and managed to keep the nation secure from homeland assaults, then the president would emerge from his terms of office as a successful, and probably heroic, chief executive.

No matter what party is in office, thats our PRESIDENT, he deserves our respect.

and always will. There are just too many reasons to hold judgement on respect for the person who currently holds that title.

I cannot see why some people continually bring up the Clinton/ Monica argument for anything said against Bush. As I have said before, while I don't condone his actions, nolives were lost in that situation.

It was called Mogidishu.

“Every time you vote Democrat God kills a kitten.”

Only over 1000 Americans in his 8 years and over 3000 on 9/11..

"The world, plus 70+% of our own country, hate him. He has "reestablished" zilch, you kool-aid drinker."

Who looks like the real kool-aid drinker here, making up and posting asinine statistics like that? You.

Care to post some real proof of those estimates? I didn't think so.

The whole world hates him? I guess somehow you would know that for a fact.

70+% of our country hates him? He got a little over 50% of the vote last time. So you'd have us think 20% who voted for him now have hatred for him? And you'd have us think that every single person in your party hates him? You and some of your blowhard buddies on here hate him, no doubt. Most might not like him or disagree with his politics like we did your boy Slick Willie. But, hate? That is a strong word even for a blowhard like you.

Looking forward to your boy Barry and every little screw-up he has. It's gonna be fun to butch(sp) and whine like you have for the last eight years....

"Care to post some real proof of those estimates?"

"Bush had been averaging a 29% approval rating for the last quarter of his presidency..." - Gallup

His approval rating has consistently been below 30% so, that sounds like about 70+% that disapprove of him, or maybe just hate him...who knows. But there's a statistic for ya. Feel better now?

However, his approval rating has edged up slightly to 34%, an increase probably due to the fact that he is about to leave office. Oh happy day

"Bush mainly has members of his own party to thank for the fact that he is ending his presidency with an approval rating above 30%. Republicans' approval of him rose from 67% in mid-December to 75% in the current poll -- their highest rating of Bush in nearly a year. By contrast, approval of Bush remains extremely scarce among Democrats, and continues to fall under 30% among independents."

LINK

"Looking forward to your boy Barry and every little screw-up he has."

So glad to see that you put country first, oh ye of little faith.

Ahh, nice backpedaling there. So you were just transposing disapproval and hate then? Or is that the same thing to you? We all know what his approval rating has been. What does that really mean? How much of that is emotion driven? Either way, his approval rating has been consistently higher than that do nothing, useless Congress you never seem to blame for ANYTHING. I could care less whether you or "the world" approves of his effectiveness. That is nothing but opinion. Everyone has the right to it, but it is actually meaningless. But, you take it a step further and let it become emotional and morph into hate. Here is the definition of both words. Maybe this will make the difference clearer for you:

Main Entry: dis·ap·prove
Pronunciation: \-ˈprüv\
Function: verb
Date: 1614
transitive verb
1 : to pass unfavorable judgment on
2 : to refuse approval to : reject
intransitive verb
: to feel or express disapproval

Main Entry: hate
Pronunciation: \ˈhāt\
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English hete; akin to Old High German haz hate, Greek kēdos care
Date: before 12th century
1 a: intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury b: extreme dislike or antipathy : loathing

2: an object of hatred

Oh yeah...."So glad to see that you put country first, oh ye of little faith."

I guess the nasty things you have been calling Bush and saying about him have been you "putting country first" all this time??? Pitiful little hypocrite....

There's no backpedaling on my part, moc. The hatred people feel for Bush is quite obvious by reading and hearing comments, opinions, letters, etc. on every media outlet, from cyberspace to print. So, pull your head out of the sand and scrape the "Bush '04" sticker off your car.

Bush had my full support after the towers fell on 9/11. Our country, and most of the world, supported him going into Afghanistan to hunt for Bin Laden and his thugs. This, my friend, is putting country first and standing behind a President regardless of their political affiliation. We all looked to our President and trusted him to make the right decision back then and bring Bin Laden to justice, dead or alive. But Bush squandered that trust, took his focus off Bin Laden, and invaded Iraq instead. And for what?! For oil? To go after the man (Saddam) who threatened his daddy? It was all a lie. Yes, Bush had our trust, and most of the world was behind him, and he betrayed our trust.

I'm not hypocrite, moc. I stood behind our President, putting aside differences in political beliefs, put my country first, and he slapped us all in the face. Good riddance.

This was your original statement:

"The world, plus 70+% of our own country, hate him. He has "reestablished" zilch, you kool-aid drinker."

I called you on that asinine statement and defied you to prove that ridiculous percentage of people who hate Bush. You came back with this:

"His approval rating has consistently been below 30% so, that sounds like about 70+% that disapprove of him, or maybe just hate him...who knows."

You either don't know the difference in disapproval and hate or were just making things up. Which was it? Either way, it proves how FOS you are. Free hint for you here.....the "maybe just hate him...who knows" in your statement was the backpedaling.

Then you treat us with this statement:

"The hatred people feel for Bush is quite obvious by reading and hearing comments, opinions, letters, etc. on every media outlet, from cyberspace to print. So, pull your head out of the sand and scrape the "Bush '04" sticker off your car."

We've all seen the websites and trash you read by the links you post here. Maybe you should pull your head out of somewhere else and read other more "mainstream" ideas from all sorts of people, not just from left-wing fanatical nuts like yourself. You might get the idea that there are some who agree, some who disagree, some who think he can do no wrong, and some who are haters like you. Either way, your original statement is complete BS.

Oh, one more thing. You were definitely right about Iraq being attacked for oil. You can tell that by the free gasoline we enjoy here now. Gosh thanks "W"!!!

Some use the word hate (like me), others use "loathe", "disapprove", "worst ever".... whatever. Just keep hangin' on to that Bush-loving delusion, moc and lindsey. We'll keep a spot open for you here when you decide to return to planet earth.

This says it all:

1,594 Reasons

"Some use the word hate (like me), others use "loathe", "disapprove", "worst ever".... whatever."

Now that was some exhaustive research there. Your source is "1000 Reasons....News and Views from the Left"???? What do you think they would say there? That was my point to you earlier about where you have your head stuck. Thanks for proving that point too. I was wondering where you had picked up that talking point. And you guys talk about Drudge, Rush and Hannity? Amazing.

If you want to hold on to your idea that disapproval and "worst ever" equals your hate, then you just show your ignorance. Bottom line, you were FOS when you said...."The world, plus 70+% of our own country, hate him." You don't have to admit it......I proved you can't quantify your own statement.

...calm down before you pop a temple. I realize your love affair with Dubya is coming to a close, so I'll try to be more sensitive to that notion and use softer words like "disapprove", "betrayed", "disgusted", "sickened", "nauseated", "failure", to describe the feelings that the majority of American's have for our outgoing Prez.

Are you done with your tantrum now?

My love affair is with the truth, not Dubya. You post statements with obvious indefensible lies and I pounce on them. It's a free service I provide. Here is your source.....disapproval ratings near 70% which is the true part. But then you try to claim that all 70% of those who disapprove actually hate him. That is a ridiculous stretch to be kind and complete BS to be frank. You pull those descriptive words you wrote above from lunatic left-wing sites that you like to frequent like that dumb-ass "News and Views from the Left". You try to make everyone believe those nuts words are representative of all those who disapprove. Like I said, don't bother to admit your BS. It is right there for all to read. Thanks for playing though....

I predict that Obama will maintain his sky-high approval ratings right up until the time that he makes his first decision as President.

I always read your posts 2 or 3 times looking for the booby trap.

Having said that, it will be interesting to see how long the honeymoon lasts. Hopefully for all of us Americans he will deliver. Reality can be a cruel bed fellow sometimes.

Glad to see you have a handle on your emotions.

Funny stuff here bro.

I love seeing how bad the democratic-controlled congress' ratings are, yet America left them in the majority.

I do believe your arguments in defense of the departing president's legacy will mainly serve as entertainment to us FOS libs. And I've got my popcorn; Orville Redenbacher with extra butter.

Thanks man.....

You know how I roll from our past conversations. You want to keep it without grenades, I'll play. You toss grenades, I love to play. Just don't cry if my grenade is bigger. Either way, glad you were amused.

About Congress and their stellar numbers, according to the Gallup polls:

PRINCETON, NJ -- Newly elected members of Congress are being sworn in on Tuesday in Washington at a time when Americans are very negative in their views of Congress. In Gallup's most recent reading -- based on interviewing in December, the final month of the previous Congress -- only 20% of Americans said they approved of the way Congress is handling its job, and for all of 2008, congressional approval averaged only 19%.

The congressional job approval average for 2008 included the all-time Gallup low point of 14% in July. The general pattern for last year included slightly higher ratings as 2008 began, a bottoming out in the summer, and a slight improvement as the year ended.

The current low ratings of Congress are down from the already-low averages of 27% in 2007 and 25% in 2006. Ratings for Congress were higher in the earlier years of the decade, including a 56% average in 2001 and a 54% average in 2002, both of which reflect at least in part the generally positive way in which Americans rated governmental institutions after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Gallup January 6, 2009

Hard to argue with those facts. Guess America cares less about Congressional approval ratings than Presidential approval ratings????

One more thing, are you and Main the same diva or did you just lump yourself into the FOS lib group? Just kidding you man. Later....

Here ya go, Bush's record 69% disapproval rating, as reported by the Gallup polling organization.
LINK

I believe you now owe Ms. MainStream an apology.
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I believe you need to reread the thread and see what she said. Her original claim was that the world and 70+% hated Bush. Not disapproved.....hated. Or do you think they are the same too??? Geeeeez, is this the Twilight Zone here??????

I did a little more research, and found out that of the 69% of people who disapprove of "the Decider", 53% "strongly disapprove" of his performance. LINK

I think you can make a strong case for equating "strongly disapprove" with "hate". So you are correct, only a little more than half of America hates Bush. Probably the most intelligent half, I suspect.

Can you recall any other verifiable instance of a President so universally disliked upon leaving office?
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Carter's job approval was 34% in December 1980. In the latest CNN poll his approval rating has increased to 64%. George H. W. Bush's approval rating was 34% jut before the1992 election and has risen to 60%. Bush's approval rating is now 27% just as he leaves office.

CNN poll

President Bush can probably look forward to increasing poll numbers as his term gets a little historical perspective. In 10 or 20 years, we'll know the impact of the Iraq war. A good outcome will surely elevate Bush, an Iraq aligned with Iran probably will not. The economy was the major obstacle in Carter's poll numbers. President Bush will have to go through a historical debate over the torture, Guantanamo, rendition, etc. issues which I suspect will hinder his poll numbers for longer than the average ex-President.

Popularity-wise, Bush and Carter share a couple of traits which affect their numbers; both were disliked by their own party members, Carter for not being liberal enough and Bush for not being conservative enough. Also, because of that, both have had their terms defined almost exclusively by their enemies.

I am one of those that would say that I strongly disapprove of many of the Bush policies. I think he is a man of conviction, but I also believe his decision-making is seriously flawed, in many matters, especially how he has handled this financial "crisis". I believe that the War on Terror could and should have been handled better. His beliefs and attitude about illegal immigration infuriated many Americans and alienated many in his base. He never seemed in command of his inner circle, with all the disagreements between the moderates and right-wingers. There were so many mistakes and mis-judgements. Was he the best man for the job? No. Was he better than Gore or Kerry? NO question! Do I hate him? No, but I am SO disappointed in his eight years. True hate is a very different emotion, Snif.

Richard Nixon (R) had higher disapproval ratings when he resigned. But, then again, it was during the Vietnam War (crazy hippie liberals abound). He was in the process of ending the war, and getting busted for this little thing called...umm, let me think...oh yeah, Watergate!

So what illegal activites did Bush partake in/of? Please don't say wire tapping. Especially when the Constitution backed him up.

“Ignorance can be fixed. Stupidity is forever”

You could have just stopped at "I stand corrected". You were.

Yes MOC it is...
and has been since 2000.. they live in a different world.. and like the zone it's a little freakie....

Lets see.. the media does'nt like Bush.. 96% of them vote Democrat..so I wonder which way their opinion goes? Lets face it the old argument BUSH LIED BUSH LIED.. does not hold water and you know it.. If Bush lied then so did Bill and Hilery Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Reid and the rest.. as well as.. Briton, Franch, Germany, Russia and a host of others... and anyway he used WMDs on his own people. He killed 1000's with Syrin gas.. Biological weapons are WMDs just to let you know...
So I again say GET OVER IT... My God.. THe hate Bush syndrome is a disease with you people.. Between the media and you libs all chanting the same mantra what do you think "poll" numbers are going to say.. At least his numbers are not lower then the Congress's numbers which is single digits.. and who controls Congress? By the way where is that oil we went to war over?

Could not have said it better.. There it is...

Thanks for the definitions. I tried to get this point across with my previous post/reply with regards to approval ratings. I appreciate you solidifying my comments. One would think that President Bush's response to 9/11 would be putting "country first". But, I guess many have forgotten that dreadful day. My personal approval rating for Bush is around 93%, simply because there haven't been any planes flying into New York skyscrapers for the last seven and a half years...But that's just me.

“Every time you vote Democrat God kills a kitten.”

"The Caine Mutiny". A great Bogart movie from about '54 or '55. Had Fred MacMurray and Van Johnson in it. A must-see.

"Your, yore, you're all idiots." (T.Floyd)

What are the approval ratings for the Democrat controlled Congress again? Are they still in the single digits?

It looks to me like someone else is taking a hit off of that Philly Blunt, and it ain't Fred.

“Every time you vote Democrat God kills a kitten.”

So what you are saying, Ms. Pitts, is that barry is no diferent than any other politician from the past.

That is not what she is saying. What is happening is that the American people are celebrating the classy and peaceful transition of government. McCain's speech after the election will go down in history as a speech by a strong leader who put country before 'person'. The Bush's have shown how American leaders support one another for the good of their country. If one wants to attend the 'balls', they are paying from $200 to the tens of thousands OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKET. For those who plan on standing while watching the swearing in - they are doing so because they want to celebrate as so many Americans have done in the past. Money is being spent for the safety and security of American citizens as they celebrate another democratic election. The current president, Bush, is still in control - and in charge. He and those in his administration, as he said, wish the 'new' administration success. Change has to come - for if we continue in our current direction, America fails. Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Conservative, Liberal thinkers want change. It appears that the Obama administration will begin to effect change on January 20. All America wants change - but it won't occur BEFORE January 20. . .you certainly learned this in your civics class - right?

While Obama and the rest of the politicos spend us into the dirt.. Change is all we got. In the worst economy since well the Carter years would'nt it be true leadership to say enough spending.. tone it down and for once practiced what they preached.. but I guess that is just asking too much..
Carter said wear a sweater... Gore says to tighten our belts and ride a bike.. Obama now says we have to spread the wealth..
Heck.. I guess I need to be a bike riding, sweater wearing sitting on my butt waiting on check liberal... It's all good.. Change is coming..

. . . and we see where that got us. We need JOBS!! When some of you on this blog lose yours - you'll sing a different tune. Can't lower taxes - when there is no income to tax; can't change the way income tax is figured when there is no income; I don't understand why that is so difficult to comprehend. The bringing back/providing jobs for AMERICANS is one necessary step towards getting us out of this mess.

(The bringing back/providing jobs for AMERICANS is one necessary step towards getting us out of this mess.)
How do you do that?? Do mean the 600K jobs Obama is putting on the taxpayers dole? Businesses must have capital to invest in their infastructure (employees) Taxes take away capital..ie.. no new jobs.
In your post you said:When some of you on this blog lose yours - you'll sing a different tune. Can't lower taxes - when there is no income to tax; can't change the way income tax is figured when there is no income; I don't understand why that is so difficult to comprehend. ????????
You want more jobs, but everyone is out of work.. ask yourself why?

Some folks haven't taken Economics 101. Nor, have they been exposed to macro or micro economics. They just sit at home and bash what they don't comprehend.

“Every time you vote Democrat God kills a kitten.”

True too true..
and by the way I know what JAFO stands for... Funnnny

Do you like the avatar too? It's supposed to be General Bonkers (no relation to the other wacked out bonkers on this site). The headline reads; "Cat general now says that the War On String may now be unwinnable."

“Ignorance can be fixed. Stupidity is forever”

What is your solution to unemployment, loss of homes, unaffordable health care?

It certainly is not more Goverment medaling... The Free Market will correct itself if only the Goverment will get out of the way.
The Goverment does not create anything Capitalism does.
I have pointed my finger at several here for not answering pointed questions so I will..
What I would do.. here it is... DUMP THE IRS.. for a start.. revamping the IRS and instituting a Fairtax or even a flattax will free up capital for industry to grow..
Lower or elimanating the Capital Gains tax... Same effect.. Why do you think all of our business goes overseas or south.. Our corporate tax structure is the most restrictive in THE WORLD. WE have a Congress that wants to take away the Profits.. if THEY THINK IT IS EXCESSIVE. Why would business want to stay here or come here..
You want regulations.. how about regulating the Unions.. They take a mile when an inch is all that can be given.. The recent exposure of the troubles with the big three automakers is a classic point...Everyone was asked to take a cut, but not the Unions they refused to give anything back..
These are a couple of ways we can fix this without the Goverment..

I have pointed my finger at several here for not answering pointed questions so I will..

Thank heavens we have leaders who are taking the time to answer 'pointed questions' without the 'knee jerk' ideology vs. common sense answer. Lindsey - we are in the worse global economic mess since the '30s - and you want to 'heal' this mess by regulating unions and dismantling the IRS! Brilliant! NOT! Regarding the IRS - we have some common ground there - but I believe a better strategy is MEND it don't END it. I believe that if you wanted to take the time, you could provide answers that are useful in this critical time. Try it.

air-fay ax-tay ucklehead-knay.
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How do you mend something that is totally broke.???
Do you realize that the tax code has now gone over 11,000 pages.. When you call the IRS and ask a question you have a 68.5% chance of getting a wrong answer.. and when you do.. you still are penalized and have to pay interest. We now have to pay accountants to do our taxes because it is so complicated that no one can figure it out... Even the people who wrote the dang thing can't figure out how much taxes they owe..How the heck can we do it..?
And your little shot across the bow about how I would "heal" this mess.. Did you read any of what I said or did your fingers just start typing... I said it would be a start.. I did say we do not need the Goverment to "FIX" this.. They caused it... Why in Gods name would I want to trust the security of my family to the same people that just robbed me.
But ok.. I am a thinker.. What is your solution or do you just critcize.. poor David!!

And you could sure buy a lot of chicken and beer, not to mention fill up the caddy a few mo times a month. Boy i bet everyone would run on down to the Caddilac man, and picks em up an Escalade, not to mention all the chrome you could stand. I bet it would not be long after the fair tax went into effect, that someone would be riding around in a solid chrome hummer, i mean no paint all chrome, looking like something out of Star Wars. Yeah thats what im talkin about, that sho nuff would be some economic stimulations.....NO DOUBT

but, you kinda sound like Archie Bunker. Those who shop on Old National or Cascade Road have their world and their culture. We have ours. Have you ever gone to work wearing one blue sock and one black, then spend the day worrying about if anyone laughs about it. Dance to the music you hear and let others do the same as long as it doesn't interfere with you.

I paid my penance, and moved away from their world and culture, like most of us in this county did back in the late 70s and early 80s. Now i have no problem with each and everyone of us doing our own thing, but please, it interferes with us all when the locust descend upon our village. Old national hwy was Fayetteville back in the day, I can remember when Camelot was the place to be especially among the Delta and Eastern Crowd, this used to be our world and culture and we gave it up to them, and fell back to here. So my question to you IMSIO is where you gonna run to now, the invasion is well under way. The only thing holding the line is that we do not have public transportation in this county for if we did, bring down the flag and fall back. Im sure that if you had your house appraised, you might be in for a suprise to find out how much interference you have already experienced. PEACE...P.S. By the way just so you know im black...Since you are white be blessed, theyre are some of us who appreciate life without rap music and big loud cars, and actually made something of ourselves..GOD BLESS...