PTC trash hauler staying, but bill to spike

Fri, 02/03/2006 - 3:15pm
By: John Munford

Peachtree City residents using Allied for trash pickup can expect some springtime sticker shock.

The company has issued notice that it is canceling the “preferred provider” contract with the city, which limits the rate increases the company can impose on residents. The contact will expire March 31, but the company will continue to provide trash pickup services in the city, contrary to a news report published elsewhere Friday morning.

Mayor Harold Logsdon announced at Thursday’s council meeting that Allied customers can expect to see their rates increased.

The Allied announcement comes on the heels of council’s decision two weeks ago to stay away from making trash service a franchise, which would require all citizens to use the same trash pickup provider in hopes of staving off significant cost increases. But the staff proposal drew fire from residents, some indignant that they would no longer be able to choose their trash provider. Other residents were upset with the proposal of allowing trash pickup just once a week instead of twice a week.

Part of the problem is there’s little trash pickup competition in the city, with Allied (formerly EPI and Environmental Partners) and Republic (formerly known as All-South Robertson) being the two major companies.

Republic was far and away the lowest of the two bids received for the proposed franchise agreement, beating Allied in nearly every category. But in the face of public opposition two weeks ago, the council voted to kick the franchise concept to the curb.

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Submitted by Sailon on Sun, 02/05/2006 - 5:39pm.

Isn't it strange that Peachtre City hires someone outside to haul our trash? Seems a simple enough thing to do on our own. I know about unions, mafia organization of trash haulers, and all the problems, but we seem to get into trouble anyway paying someone to do a crappy job with trash, water, sewers, lawyers, etc.

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Submitted by livininPTC on Mon, 02/06/2006 - 10:23am.

You might want to read the article again. It is not Peachtree City who hires the trash haul service, it is the Peachtree Citizens who do!


Submitted by Sailon on Mon, 02/06/2006 - 5:19pm.

I'm sorry, but you are just out of it! PTC authorizes who is to haul the trash, and of course they get paid what the town will let them charge.
Any time the town wants, they can buy some trucks, put drivers on them and collect the trash. Might even get a better deal at the land fill.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Tue, 02/07/2006 - 2:00pm.

I don't know how much a new one costs, but looking quickly online such trucks from 1998 with about 40,000 miles on them were a little over $50,000 each.

Then you have to buy the trash containers and all the other equipment. Hire mechanics, have a shop capable of working on them, set up billing and such and so on.

Expensive venture.

So, while doable, is it advisable?


Submitted by Sailon on Tue, 02/07/2006 - 4:01pm.

Of course it is doable. $10.00 per household per month times 10,000 households times twelve months, equals $1,200,000 income per year. We build libraries, police stations, buy fire equipment, etc., at far greater expense and less payout.
It would require our paid officials to work harder to run it, however, which may be the unfeasible part.

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Submitted by PTC Guy on Tue, 02/07/2006 - 8:13pm.

Not as much money as you are thinking.

10,000 homes requires 2,000 to be serviced per day. So, how many trucks would that require?

I don't know but just throw out 10 as a number. At, say, $100,000.00 per truck you spent a million right there.

Now, just two men per truck, really should be 3, is at least 800 man hours per week. At just $10.00 per hour that is $8,000 per week and $416,000.00 per year.

Ad in gas, maintenance, mechanics, buildings and so on and that 1.2 million isn't very impressive.

The marginal return comes from having more trucks per maintenance facility and such. 10 trucks has a very poor marginal return.

So, again, doable yes, but realistic?


Submitted by Sailon on Wed, 02/08/2006 - 11:07am.

Since PTC has absolutely no interest in this headache, we are wasting our time, anyway. But if there is no money in it, why does a dozen companies want the franchise?
I'm afraid your numbers are terrible. A truck can do a subdivision of about 100 in about and hour and one-half with two men----one man can, with a special truck and designated pick-up spots at each house. Three men? You must be union or work for the town? Need about 4-5 leased trucks with maintenance agreements. I assume we already have a repair shop for emergencies? Wasn't this the place where some of the mechanics were stealing gas and parts last year? It is the same reason we don't want to run the Tennis Center and the Amphitheater, it takes work and experience, and imagination, and less coffee breaks and time off.

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