PTC cutting library, Kedron hours to save money

Sat, 12/27/2008 - 1:24pm
By: John Munford

Would save $45K but be less convenient for residents

In an effort to save money, the Peachtree City Library and the city’s Kedron Aquatic Center and Fieldhouse will soon be shortening their operating hours.

The aquatic center and fieldhouse will close at 9 p.m. instead of 10 Monday through Friday and will close at 7 p.m. instead of 10 p.m. on Saturdays.

The library will open one hour later on weekdays at 10 a.m. instead of 9 a.m., and it will close one hour earlier at 8 p.m. instead of 9 p.m. — except for Wednesdays when it opens at noon and closes at 6 p.m.

That leaves the regular Sunday operating hours the same: from 1-5 p.m.

The change for the library will be effective in January while the Kedron changes won’t take effect until Feb. 13 due to the youth basketball league that’s currently ongoing, officials said.

The estimated savings for closing the library an additional 12 hours a week is $28,841. Closing Kedron an additional eight hours a week will save an estimated $16,389.

At last week’s council meeting, there was some discussion about whether closing the library earlier on weeknights was the right thing to do given that hour is popular with students needing computer access for schoolwork.

Councilwoman Cyndi Plunkett said from what she remembers the library usage in the 8-9 p.m. hour was the second highest time recorded during the week.

Plunkett said that students who participate in afterschool activities don’t get started on their homework until later in the day.

Plunkett said she would prefer having the later hour intact “because I know that’s when good kids are in there doing their homework.”

Councilman Don Haddix had a question along those lines that couldn’t be quantified by trackable statistics.
“Are they there until 9 because it’s convenient or because they need to be?” he asked.

The new hours were adopted unanimously by council, but they will be revisited at a later date to perhaps be tweaked if necessary.


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Submitted by mysteryman on Mon, 12/29/2008 - 7:05pm.

Last time at the fieldhouse aquatic center, as the kids emerged from the pool they had a certain sheen glow amongst them, upon closer review the water seem to bead of their skin kind a like a mallard or a duck, down on the shallow end a young mother had her baby in the water with nothing on but pampers, hmm. was that a snickers bar i observed a floatin in the pool. On the way out the door i handed the attendant a $20 for the wash and wax. YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK...

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Submitted by TonyF on Tue, 12/30/2008 - 11:31am.

I think you meant a Baby Ruth bar. "'s in the hole" (C. Spackler)

"Your, yore, you're all idiots." (T.Floyd)

Submitted by mysteryman on Tue, 12/30/2008 - 6:25pm.

And the fact that when you go for a swim there, you dont even get wet, with all the oil, sheen, butter, juice, floating on top of the water. You get automatic scotch guard when you dive in, dip and flip..Your tax dollars at work...PEACE

Submitted by fayettereader on Mon, 12/29/2008 - 8:04am.

Lets see, times are tough, revenues are down, so why don't we cut some of the frivilous areas of municipal costs? Things like employee travel, motorvehilce usage by non public safety personnel, or instituting green intiatives to reduce cost and save money. Better yet, as civic leaders for our community, let us give up our salaries and serve freely as part of our civic duty as council members since most of us probably have other main sources of income.

Naah..we'll just cut things like recreation and the last bastion of intellectual freedom such as the library. You know, those citizen (sneer implied) services. Shame on you PTC Council!

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Submitted by Tiger Dad on Sun, 12/28/2008 - 2:20pm.

I thought the fieldhouse and aquatic center were part of the county recreation department. If so, don't they have a say in how it operates?

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Submitted by TinCan on Mon, 12/29/2008 - 1:02pm.

Actually the Kedron pool complex is owned and operated by PTC. So we have the great pleasure of subsidizing recreation for both the city and the county. I see nothing wrong with "pay for play". Enjoy your swim.

Submitted by wildcat on Mon, 12/29/2008 - 1:33pm.

That makes sense. I have my own pool, so it was really a non-issue and I never bothered to find out what the deal was. Sometimes it's just easier to work on badge requirements at a location other than your own home. If you have kids I'm sure you know exactly what I mean!

Submitted by wildcat on Mon, 12/29/2008 - 9:23am.

I don't know if they are part of the county rec dept or not...about 5 years ago I took my Webelos there to work on a pin and it cost $1 per kid. No problem at all. Two years ago I wanted to take my girl scouts, but was informed that they each would have to join (about $40 per person) if we wanted to use the facility. Whatever.

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Submitted by abeautifulday4us on Sun, 12/28/2008 - 12:13pm.

These are tough economic times. It is time to close the Kedron Swimming Pool and the PTC Tennis Center. They are not truly open to public. Close them and let the users subsidize them. The pool hours are being shortened from 10-9 which means 9-8 because the lifeguards supposedly need an hour to clean up. This means that basically the few hours for open public swimming are reduced to near nothing. That means that the pool is just open for a few swim teams and not really to the public. The Tennis Center is the same way. Close them both and save taxpayer money.

Submitted by lion on Sun, 12/28/2008 - 5:22pm.

PTC should not reduce hours at the Library or the Kedron Recreation Center.

PTC is an affluent community by almost any standard. Its citizens can afford to fully support its library and recreational programs. These are two of the very few public facilities in PTC.

And a community that prides itself on its educational system should be embarrassed by the idea of making its library less accessible to its students and other citizens.

Submitted by Spyglass on Sun, 12/28/2008 - 12:58pm.

Just boggling.

Submitted by Bonkers on Sat, 12/27/2008 - 4:28pm.

I would like to see the $45,000 saved by closing the library and pool!

Where will it come from? Will people be laid off? Or moved to someplace else?

I have never seen this work anywhere.

Submitted by dollaradayandno... on Sun, 12/28/2008 - 8:41am.

Municipalities don't work like corporations as to budget preparation!

They can claim savings in one department and spend it all in another---yet, still claim the savings.

You can't even tell by looking at the bottom line of expenditures as compared to last year----they have methods of covering it up such as "authorities," reserves, shuffling, overtime pay, donations, drug money, fines, state grants, federal grants, use of attrition, revision of values, changing the mil rates, and of course contract work.

Submitted by flip212 on Sat, 12/27/2008 - 2:01pm.

How nice to hear in a time of budget and economical depression our City Council is taking away form the citizens but recently gave to themselves....a pay raise. How thoughtful. Maybe they will rescind the pay raise due to the current financial situation...NOT!

Submitted by fluffybear on Sun, 12/28/2008 - 12:16pm.

August 2007 is ancient history! If they did this in August of 2008, I would be just as angry about it but things were different in August of 2007.

Submitted by PTC Avenger on Sat, 12/27/2008 - 4:24pm.

Is this true?

Submitted by flip212 on Sat, 12/27/2008 - 6:49pm.

PTC Council raises approved
Thu, 08/16/2007 - 6:45pmBy: John Munford
Council also votes to avoid appeal of GRTA suit

The Peachtree City Council tonight narrowly approved doubling the salaries of the mayor from $9,000 to $18,000 a year and of council members from $6,000 to $12,000 a year.

And after an executive (closed) session, council voted 4-0-1 to decline filing an appeal of the city's lawsuit against the Georgia Regional Transportation Authority, according to city spokesperson Betsy Tyler. A Fulton County Superior Court judge had ruled against the city, which sought to overturn a GRTA requirement to make the bridge over Line Creek for the extension of TDK Boulevard four lanes instead of two.

Council has since voted to abandon the road extension project, which would have linked the city to unincorporated Coweta County and ultimately to a 3,100 home subdivision Coweta has approved.

Councilwoman Cyndi Plunkett abstained from the vote, which was approved by the rest of council.

The raises, approved in a 3-1-1 vote, will not take effect until 2010, which means that none of the current council members will get that raise unless they are re-elected to office. It does mean, however, that anyone elected to council this November would get the raise in the middle of their term.

Council members Stuart Kourajian, Cyndi Plunkett and Steve Boone voted in favor of the raises and new councilman Mike Harman, in his first meeting, voted against the measure. Mayor Harold Logsdon abstained from the vote, saying he was willing to go along with the wishes of the rest of council.

The salary increase will cost an additional $33,000 a year compared to the current amount budgeted for city council and mayor salaries, officials have said.

Only four citizens spoke on the issue: two in favor and two against. Resident Robert Brown said he thought the raises resulted in too large an increase.

Brown also noted that the unintended consequence of raising the salaries is that it will also double the qualifying fee which each candidate must file in order to run for office. Plunkett has said she wanted the salary increases to encourage a wider variety of citizens to run for office because it will make it easier for them to afford working in the part-time position.

Another resident, Beth Pullias, told council that after attending a number of council meetings, she thinks council is “worth every penny” of the raise.

Logsdon noted that he has been silent on the issue because he has been focusing on finding new revenue streams for the city in the past 10-11 months, and he appreciated Plunkett taking charge of the issue and doing all the research.

The city had not changed the salary of mayor and council since 1985.

The motion approved by council included a provision to allow city council members to participate in the city’s tax deferred 457 retirement plan, which will cost the city nothing because the city does not match contributions to that plan. Harman tried to convince council to forget about raising the salaries and only allow council members to join the 457 program, but his effort fell on deaf ears.

Harman noted that having served as a volunteer on the city’s Water and Sewer Authority for some time, he felt uncomfortable voting for a raise of the mayor and council salaries even though he felt it might be the right thing to do.

Submitted by PTC_factchecker on Sat, 12/27/2008 - 7:09pm.

So, Council raised their own salaries? one who voted for the salary increases would get the salary increase unless they get re-elected.

So, who benefits? The double-D's (Don and Doug). Let's see if they raise the issue to have the raise rescinded.

Way to yell fire in a theater, flip!

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