Peachtree City's Tennis Courts at Disney Land

Hardly a week goes by when someone doesn't mention the 1-2 million dollar shortfall at that center.

Yet, no one in authority takes it upon themselves to explain how and with what it was paid! Is it paid?

How could that much money evaporate even with sorry books without at least an inkling of who got it? Was it that the payment of all the help including the Professional Instructors and their benefits was simply that much over the income?

How is it doing now? How much tax supports it? Why is all this a secret?

I suggest we don't allow one more City official to be sworn in or paid until at least one of them does a detailed explanation of the situation!

Why did our Local Police department drop the problem with the GBI? Why did the GBI say it was a local problem? Why did the Council and Mayor then ignore it until the new mayor simply arranged for it to be paid, or paid it?

We have been patient with this but it is now time to determine how to not let it happen again.

If the answer is simply that it costs that much more to have pros there, and it was anticipated that taxes would pay the bill--as it does for the airport, and the "authority," then show how that happened and be done with it!

Is the police station now without mold?
What extra did that cost us?

I have always said the a hotel will be built on the lake Peachtree behind the current library, as soon as the 35' height can be eliminated.
Maybe 50 stories of condos with access to the lake?

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Submitted by link7881 on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 4:04pm.

Does any one have to be a controlled robot to work at city hall?

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Submitted by mudcat on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 7:55pm.

You seem very distressed. I'll only address 2 of your "issues"

1. A 50 story building would be 500 feet tall and that's way outside the box.
2. The GBI problem went away because the previous police chief went away. How hard is that to figure out?

Submitted by Bonkers on Thu, 12/11/2008 - 5:06am.

Just takes a little voted relief when money is involved!

What did the old Chief leaving have to do with the GBI "problem?"

Are you saying the GBI had a problem with the Tennis Center due to the the chief? Makes no sense! Just bafflement!

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Submitted by mudcat on Thu, 12/11/2008 - 7:49pm.

The current height restriction is 35 feet. It might go to 60 feet. 500 feet is outside the rules.

The old chief was the GBI problem. Tennis Center had nothing to do with it. The old chief asked the GBI to investigate wrongdoing at the tennis center and they did and said no wrondoing by the mayor, Virgil or Council. Get over that brownclown and friends.

The real GBI investigation was about something else and since you are obviously an outsider - you will never know.

Submitted by Bonkers on Fri, 12/12/2008 - 5:34am.

Rules are meant to change! And will, eventually.

Are you mixing up the Chief's supposed preoccupation with porn on the Internet with the GBI investigation, at the chief's request, of the Tennis Center fiasco?

Talking about dense!

Only insiders know, huh? Want to bet? More rope to come!

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Submitted by ptctaxpayer on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 5:52pm.

Governor Rod Blagojevich and The Tennis Center...Rumor has it that Governor Rod was willing to trade the US Senate appointment for an appointment to the PTC Development Authority/Tennis Center Director. Said the Guv "Heck, Christian, Godfrey, the bankers and the lawyers raked in tons of cash and nobody got wiretapped or investigated. Sounds like a good gig to me." Attorneys for the Development Authority declined to return calls.

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Submitted by Don Haddix on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 4:11pm.

Bonkers, I don't have all your answers. As to why the Tennis Center debt was assumed and so forth, please ask the three on Council that took part in that action and vote. I was not on Council then, so was not privy to all the conversations.

I do remember a lot of reporting about the issues, from the Center being initially proposed to the settlement, but it was all incredibly murky. So, I don't want to go further than that. Mike, I believe, remembers as well.

As for more current budget issues about the Center, please look here and here for some additional information. There are spreadsheet attachments on each thread, so please look for them.

How it will not happen again has been handled by restructuring DAPC, putting conscientious people on that authority and, as well on other committees, etc., assigning a Council member as liaison, who is currently me to DAPC, but my term is ending soon.

Regarding the Airport, the Mayor would like me to take on that authority next year. Not sure I will and I am most assuredly not an airport expert. We will see.

As for building on Drake Field, etc., not if I can help it. Plus, in reworking ordinances, we will be voting on a revised Open Space, which that area is zoned, that will bar such development from occurring.

Concerning the Police Station, it is suppose to be mold free and remain so. Time will tell.

Hope this plus the links help a little.

Don Haddix
PTC Councilman
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Submitted by Spyglass on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 8:20pm.

Please don't take this fellow serious.

He goes by Nitpicker, dollars, etc...He's a complete and total waste of your time.

Now you know.

Submitted by Bonkers on Thu, 12/11/2008 - 5:10am.

Who is this fellow, "serious," you mention? What would he take from him?

Am I to "seriously" believe that Mr. Haddix doesn't know exactly what went on and is going on? He is there.
Does one have to be a controlled robot to work at city hall?
We need a Barney Frank there!

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Submitted by dawn69 on Thu, 12/11/2008 - 8:47am.

Barney Frank?

Laughing out loud Laughing out loud Laughing out loud Laughing out loud Laughing out loud Laughing out loud

Submitted by Nitpickers on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 5:16pm.

It is as clear as deep mud!

I couldn't even open the "attachment." Will require buying "Excel."
Good way to hide it from average citizen!

What is the 2.7 million you mentioned?
Do we still owe this much?

I can't understand why you, an official, can't see this stuff and tell us!
Is it not the taxpayers business?
Are some threatened by lawyers? Want a donation to hire a lawyer?
How about the one who used to be on the authority?

I know there is a group who feels that these venues need to be supported even above the hotel tax with further general tax for "importance" purposes.
Not the point! Is it?

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 6:41pm.

"Good way to hide it from average citizen!"

It was apparently good enough to hide it from you although my 10 year old could figure it out.

Cry baby, go here and download the Excel viewer application, for FREE!

Good thing your computer came with IE or you would "B" to Microsoft about it.

What a dweeb.

Submitted by Nitpickers on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 7:05pm.

Would you mind having the ten yr old explain it to me? They can do it right here!

Even Mr. Haddix says it isn't there to figure out! It is hidden and isn't discussed among those left from the fiasco!

By the way has he explained it to you yet?
I have a feeling you don't want to know!

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Submitted by Don Haddix on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 5:36pm.

Download OpenOffice for free and set to Word and Excel as defaults. Then it will all open at no cost. Handy and very complete program.

You can also do an open records request from City Hall. Then Staff will dig it all out. But that is a long process and does cost some money.

Ask The Citizen. Maybe they already have it on file. Not sure.

But in the little questioning and research I did on this issue, it is a tangled up mess to dig into.

SIt is very, on the loan, convoluted and involves Tourism, Tennis Center, PTC Brick and Mortar and other budgets. It is not all in one location.

Yes, the Brick and Mortar is about 2.7, but it includes some other loan issues such as Fred and other work, which are not split out, but one lump loan. Would take an accountant to even being to give any idea how much belongs to the Center, exactly, but it is a majority chunk.

To me how we use the H/M is the point, as you saw in the links. I don't like using money one place that can be mused better elsewhere.

Wish I could give better answers. But being in the minority, on Council, does not give me a lot of maneuvering room.

Good luck talking to those who use the be on the Authority. Some got off when they saw it was not good or legal and were not there for worst of it. The rest don't talk about it, really.

Don Haddix
PTC Councilman
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Submitted by Nitpickers on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 7:41pm.

It is beyond me why everyone seems afraid of "authorities" and the particular bank who made the bad, unauthorized, loan!
I take it that we do still owe 2.7 million for the authority's commitments?
Don't see how that was even legal.

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Submitted by borntorun on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 8:56pm.

The city never agreed to pay back $2.7 million. It was actually $920,407. Here's the story in the Citizen when the agreement was announced.

The City Council of Peachtree City will consider approving next week a nearly $1 million payment to a bank and two contractors to settle a long-running lawsuit about the city-owned Tennis Center, according to a city news release Wednesday.

The $920,407 settlement will eventually be paid out of the city's treasury by means of a complicated revenue bond issue and lease-back arrangement with the city's Development Authority, according to the news release.

The initial yearly payment will start at $75,000 in 2008 and increase to a high of $135,000 in the final year, 2017.

Rather than sit and froth at the computer over this, all you have to do is what Don said and enter "Tennis Center Debt Payment" in the site search block on this site.

Submitted by Bonkers on Thu, 12/11/2008 - 5:01am.

Is Haddix correct at 2.7 million for the authority, or is this paper article and you?

What does the interest run until 2017 on the million? Does it make it two million?

Who signed that loan for the city?

Aren't you interested in anything ( as opposed to Chicago's dealings) or do you know all the details and think they should be secret?

I searched all this stuff before: it says nothing really except that it was fabricated to be confounding!

"Authorities" are evil!

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Submitted by Mike King on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 8:38am.

My sentiments exactly. Paying a city debt of approximately one million bucks and remaining closed mouthed for nearly three years, at least to me has the appearance of trying to hide something. It seems as we, those whose money actually paid the debt, have no say. It would appear that the Mayor believes he knows what is best for the mere citizens of Peachtree City.

The Mayor did run on his experience as a financial planner. Perhaps we know why he decided to change career fields.

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