The Fascist Speaks

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barry spoke on "Meet the Press" over the weekend -

"I think the important principle, because sometimes when we start talking about taxes, and I say I want a more balanced tax code, people think, well, that's class warfare. No. It turns out that our economy grows best when the benefits of the economy are most widely spread. And that has been true historically."

He's not talking about EVERYONE paying taxes, which would actually be balanced.
No, he's talking about taking more from producers and giving it to the lazy non-producers. That's barry's idea of "balanced".

" ...part of what I'm hoping to introduce as the next president is a new ethic of responsibility where we say that if you're laying off workers, the least you can do when you're making $25 million a year is give up some of your compensation and some of your bonuses ... That kind of notion of shared benefits and burdens is something that I think has been lost for too long, and it's something that I'd like to see restored."

So barry is going to mandate ethics (his definition, anyway) and let government determine how much CEO's sould be making.

barry is a fascist

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Fred:This is the correct spelling of fascist.
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Submitted by DarthDubious on Mon, 12/08/2008 - 2:36pm.

I submit that the entire federal goverment is fascist in nature. There are clues all over the place if one knows what to look for, and where to look for it.

One example: Do a search for an image of the speaker's rostrum in the House of Reps.

On either side of the rostrum hang two devices in relief. Its a bundle of wooden dowels, wrapped in leather, with an axe head protruding from the the side at the top.

These are termed as fasces, or fasci, a Roman device that has, for the past 250yrs or so, represented the international fascist movement.

The mace carried by the sergeant at arms in front of the President of the U.S. before the annual state of the union address, is a fascist symbol, or device.

If you want to attack the fascists, attack all of them, and stop wasting my time with your misspelled terms.

In Liberty,

DarthDubious


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???? Darth
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Submitted by Fred Garvin on Mon, 12/08/2008 - 3:07pm.

What are you talking about?? - what was misspelled and what the heck does it have to do with the price of tea in China?


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Fred:Be big enough to admit a spelling error...
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Submitted by DarthDubious on Mon, 12/08/2008 - 5:58pm.

(you spelled it F-A-C-I-S-T originally) instead of correcting it AFTER the fact has been pointed out, and then claim it never happened. That's as bad as Chaney et al claiming they never said they knew exactly where the WMDs of Iraq were located. A pathetic attempt at revisionist history.

What does fascism have to do with it? Well, if you really want to know, we are livimg under a soft form of fascism in the USA right now. You see Mussolini referred to this soft form as corporatism:

Nazi Germany took control of (for the benefit of the people of course) all manufacturing, agriculture, transportation systems, education, and the press in order to stifle, and control the people. This would not happen here in the same fashion, as the armed public would not allow such a thing. So, how are they doing it here?

The opposite has taken place: the banking cartels, and global corporate interests have taken over the government. Banks and big corps fund both sides of all elections so that when the smoke clears it makes no difference who wins: both sides do what they are told by their sponsors.

The game is rigged man, open your mind please, and stop falling for their left/right propaganda, they all have the same economic, and foreign policy, you will not see any "change" other than faces.

In Liberty,

DarthDubious


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Fred Garvin - CEO's and bonuses
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Submitted by dawn69 on Mon, 12/08/2008 - 2:06pm.

Years ago, at the all-knowing age of 19, I did purchasing for a chemical company in Norcross. We were a subsidiary of U.S. Chemicals and U.S. Steel. My annual salary at that time was 18K, not bad for a young lady working to put herself through school, living in a small apartment, eating beans for dinner every night. It was 1988 and the week after Christmas I was laid off. All purchasing was to be centralized out of the Tampa office. This small cut in labor would save the company, despite giving our CEO a 3 million dollar Christmas bonus the week before.

At the time, I couldn't understand the 'unfairness' of it and was too naive to realize just how expendable labor really is. Now that I'm older and WAY so much wiser, I know that the bonuses these CEO's receive are based on their ability to keep a decent bottom line. If they can keep profits up and labor down - they get that big bonus.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that ethics and big business are a paradox. And while, yes, it is unfair that some are compensated so extravagantly while others who work for peanuts are expendable, it's those 'big wigs' that provide a work force for the rest of us. Without them, we would all be unemployed. Any tax increase on big corporations, or any penalties applied to them will result not in less bonuses for the CEO's, but more little people unemployed.


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