New charge: teen texting while driving?

Tue, 11/25/2008 - 5:28pm
By: The Citizen

The wired generation may soon have the plug pulled on them, at least while they’re driving, if a proposal is approved by the Georgia Legislature next year.

Fayette state Rep. Matt Ramsey is proposing to make it illegal for teenagers under 18 to talk, text, or use email and instant messaging on their cellphones while driving.

If approved by the Georgia legislature, violators would face up to a $175 fine on the first offense and a $500 fine on the second and subsequent offenses.

Anyone under 18 who gets into an auto crash while using a cellphone, if they are determined to be at fault, will face a doubling of that fine. Such offenders will also receive a 90-day license suspension on the first offense and a six-month license suspension for a second offense.

Ramsey himself almost had a run-in, literally, with a teen on a cellphone nearly two months ago, he said.

Ramsey was traveling down Peachtree Parkway just past Booth Middle School nearly two months ago when a teenage driver on a cellphone forced him to take evasive action and drive into the median.

While no one was hurt, Ramsey said it sure got his attention as to the dangers of cell phone use while driving.

“It was a jarring enough event,” Ramsey said, that he went back to his office and researched the issue, finding some troubling data on teen drivers and cell phone use.

The bill proposed by Ramsey includes several exceptions under which someone under 18 could use a cell phone while driving, including:

• To report illegal activity;

• To summon medical or emergency help;

• To prevent injury to a person or property; or

• To navigate using a global positioning system.

Talking or texting while driving will lead to a 1-point assessment against a driver’s points leading towards license suspension, according to the proposed legislation.

The law would exempt devices such as citizen band (CB) radios, commercial two-way radios or electronic devices with a “push to talk” function.

Ramsey said the reason for the age restrictions comes from data he has discovered during research for the bill. He cited a study commissioned by Ford Motor Company which took 100 teens and 100 adults in a driving simulator while operating a cell phone.

The teens were four and a half times likely to have problems reacting to a dangerous situation on the simulator while operating the phone, Ramsey said.

In one recent year there were about 5,000 teen fatalities related to distracted drivers, and cell phone use was “far and away the number one distraction,” Ramsey said.

Ramsey also cited a recent study that revealed half of teenage students send text messages while driving.

“Unless you’re really good, that takes both hands and a good bit of attention,” Ramsey said.

He acknowledged that it will be difficult to enforce the law, but at the same time “putting it on the books as a deterrent will help.”

Ramsey said he truly believes the law would save lives.

Bouncing the idea for the law off two local teens recently, Ramsey said they endorsed the concept because they are worried about what their classmates do behind the wheel.

Now Ramsey has to sell it to his fellow legislators. He has some powerful support in those who are cosponsoring the legislation: Tom Rice, the chairman of the House motor vehicle committee to which the bill will be assigned and Edward Lindsey, vice chairman of the judiciary committee which may also take a crack at the bill.

Similar bills have been proposed in the past but were seen as too lenient, Ramsey said.

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carbonunit52's picture
Submitted by carbonunit52 on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 8:15pm.

making it a moving violation to be DWD, driving while distracted.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."


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Submitted by dawn69 on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 8:21pm.

That would make it illegal for my kids to ride in the car with me. Where do I sign?


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Submitted by redrooster on Thu, 11/27/2008 - 11:12pm.

So what's next?
How about banning drinking coffee?
Isn't that profiling? How do you determine if someone is 18, 19 or twenty?
Sounds like another way to collect revenue!

"God Bless America"


Submitted by Bonkers on Fri, 11/28/2008 - 6:09am.

OK to cell phone in a car if you are doing so and so, or so and so, or so and so, or are of correct age, and so and so!

What does the cop do, ask you a series of questions to find out why you were using it?

That is why it won't be enforced fairly and consistently---like the tinted auto windows, isn't it?

The global positioning one get me!!!!
What is the emergency to know that while driving? (The positioning manufacturers must have a pretty good lobby!)

A simple law would do: do not drive while using any type of phone.

If you find it necessary to use one and get caught, then go to court and see if the judge thinks you should be excused. That is all.

Also, tell Mommies and daddies not to use them and that if they don't tell their kids not to use then, they will be held responsible.

Folks, there are all kinds of places to stop and phone and even return calls, later. We didn't even have the things until recently for hundreds of years.

Radios requiring tuning and TVs in cars are bad enough.
Want to try and cut down the 60,000 auto deaths and I don't know how many wounded per year?
No?

As to pills, weed, and beer and liquor while driving and endangering everyone, well, I say horse whip them! Or waterboard them.

Now, those golf carts...........and horses, next maybe!

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Submitted by redrooster on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 9:15am.

If these misguided goobers that make this crap up weren't worried how many more teen's parent's they could make a buck on and if they were really worried about safety they might come with something like this...
Start the driver training at age 14. Parents keep a driving log and let your child develop driving skills by DRIVING.
Maybe it's just me but I think we have way too many frivolous laws.
How about we just start stopping at check points a show them our papers?


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Submitted by diva on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 9:59am.

I heard it was quite a solemn holiday for those turkey cousins of yours. Anywho, I am a complete believer in sensible laws and no more than are necessary, but I do see a need for the law to evolve. There was a time when there were no speed limits. That's because cars were not fast and roads did not support excess speed. But then we bigger, better, faster - chanting Americans made faster cars and wider roads. Then we found the need to regulate the behavior of thrill seekers like me. I know myself well. The few times I have been places without speed limits, I pushed the go pedal until it wouldn't go anymore. Not safe, but it was a hellofalotafun.
Now we bigger-better-faster Americans can't buy phones without keyboards. And dangit! It better be a QWERTY key board at that! I've been literally run into the dirt by people two-handed texting. I've had my phone (ironically) ready to dial 911 on a drunk and weaving driver only to see them texting. Now, this doesn't seem smart to me. I would like a law to limit or possibly eliminate this behavior so that my only recourse isn't bringing it up in court during a vehicular homicide case involving my friends or family. do you disagree with the age? Do you think we all should be hands free by law,or that texting and driving while smoking that Lucky should be A okay? Again, this just doesn't make good sense to me, and I unfortunately have first-hand experience avoiding these drivers. Remember, there are people who would drive around at night with no lights if it was legal.


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Submitted by redrooster on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 8:00pm.

I burned my finger on my Weber grill cooking sheep this thanksgiving, I'm really surprised their still legal.

Baaabaaabaaabaabaa


Submitted by Spyglass on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 12:58pm.

for push to talk.

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Submitted by opustv on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 11:38am.

I moved here from DC where there has been a "hands free phone" law on the books for years. Unfortunately the statistics don't lie. The number of car accidents and car/pedestrian accidents have not gone down in the nations capital during the past 3 years...they have gone up 17%. A distracted driver is a distracted driver no matter if it is a teen with a cell phone or a soccer mom yelling at her kids in the back seat (far more common in PTC), fiddling with your radio or putting on lipstick (I see that every day here). The only thing the law in DC did was increase revenue for the Metro police and increase the case load for the courts. Solid driver education for teens (where is the mandatory drivers ed program?) that includes reinforcement of common sense guidelines about driving while distracted is the solution.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 6:38am.

and kills a 13 year old. The truck driver was on his cell phone.

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Submitted by A1226 on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 1:08am.

Okay: Teens are more into text messaging, it's true.. But people of every age are involved in talking on the phone while driving... i am one too.. it can be dangerous since it usually provides only one hand to drive with. Has anyone ever been waiting at a red light and just watched all the people making left turns?? about 80% is chatting with their phone in their hand..
However, I believe that talking on the phone is as dangerous as hearing your favorite song on the radio or listening intently to a talk show on the radio.
I say, ban text messaging while driving and only allow hands free talking while driving.
But not from just teens because I see tons of soccer moms in PTC on their phones.. most likely talking to other soccer moms.. and they are NOT thinking a thing about cars around them..

Submitted by Arf on Mon, 11/24/2008 - 10:00pm.

Why pick on teens?

We are all cell phone idiots these days. Yes, I'm guilty too although I try to avoid using the phone while driving (I'm over 60, so don't need added distractions.) But...I have observed many other drivers of all ages, many, many times using cell phones and not paying any attention to the road or other drivers.

Applying make-up on the way to work should be outlawed also.

Hell, let's just outlaw everything. Maybe then we'll all behave.

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Submitted by dawn69 on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 1:55am.

"Maybe then we'll all behave."

That reminds me of one of my many favorite quotes:

"The more like angels we act, the less government we need. The less like angels we act, the more government we need."

- Jack Anderson, Washington Post

Very true. Often legislation needs to be passed because the masses are either ignorant, inconsiderate, or both. That's why they still have to print warnings on cigarette packs. Unfortunately, I am one of those ignorant smokers.Smiling


Submitted by Arf on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 7:08am.

Good quote and of course "the law thing" really works, doesn't it?

It usually makes me more angelic... 'Scuse me. I'm going out to have a cigarette now. (Are there really warnings on those things?) A store clerk the other day said "I think you're over 45, so it's okay if I sell them to you." Guess the law might catch up to me one day!

Have a good day...

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Mon, 11/24/2008 - 9:06pm.

I almost got creamed on Highway 74 about two months ago by a guy who I THOUGHT was drunk...I passed him and was getting ready to call 911 when I realized he wasn't drunk, he was text messaging someone while driving.

I am in favor of banning any sort of typed communication (email, text messaging, IM, etc) while driving at ANY AGE.

I do not, however, think banning cell phone usage from teens is the way to go. Either ban it for everyone or no one. And I have a gut feeling you're not going to see a great deal of support for a universal cell phone ban in cars.


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Submitted by aliquando on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 1:13am.

If not us, then who? I actually agree with you on this one. I dislike cell phones. My wife made me get one so she could find me.


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Submitted by Voice of Fayett... on Mon, 11/24/2008 - 9:52pm.

Matt Ramsey "Let's pass a law" sounds like a Yankee Democrat, just like Janet Smola.

What's he gonna ban next--- eating a sandwich while driving?

Real Republicans don't pass a bunch of laws every time they feel like it. That's what Democrats do.


Submitted by letterman on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 7:19am.

Just imagine "Momma" as a disease-infected crack-addicted prostitute, and "Jesus" as her Hispanic drug dealer, and you'll never hear the phrase
regards,
Total Cleanse

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Submitted by diva on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 10:28am.

"Matt Ramsey "Let's pass a law" sounds like a Yankee Democrat, just like Janet Smola."

1. Are you happy with the number of people injured or killed by distracted drivers?

2. Do you think "Yankee Democrats" passed the indoor smoking laws in Georgia, PTC, and Fayette County which were designed to save lives?

3. Are you suggesting that only democrats would consider laws which save lives?

Help me understand your point. K?


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Submitted by Voice of Fayett... on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 1:31pm.

1. Are you happy with the number of people injured or killed by distracted drivers?

THAT IS A TRULY ASSININE QUESTION. OF COURSE I CARE ABOUT FATALITIES. IF AMERICA TRULY CARED ABOUT FATALITY DEATHS, THE DRUNK DRIVING LAWS WOULD BE AS STRINGENT AS SOME EUROPEAN COUNTRIES. OR, PASS A CURFEW FOR ALL TEEN DRIVERS.

2. Do you think "Yankee Democrats" passed the indoor smoking laws in Georgia, PTC, and Fayette County which were designed to save lives?

SMOKING CLEARLY CAUSES CANCER. CELL PHONE USE IS ONLY ONE FORM OF DISTRACTED DRIVING (SEE BELOW). DEMOCRATS PASS LAWS AT THE DROP OF THE HAT AND OVER REGULATE AMERICA AND CAUSE THE REMAINING BODY OF LAW TO BE DILUTED AND DOWNGRADED. YANKEE DEMOCRATS ARE THE FIRST TO SPLASH A WHOLE BUNCH OF MEANINGLESS LAWS THAT INCREASE GOVERNMENT, REDUCE LIBERTY AND REDUCE THE RESPECT FOR LAW.

3. Are you suggesting that only democrats would consider laws which save lives?

DEMOCRATS WET THE BED, CRY ABOUT SOME TRAGEDY AND PASS A LAW WITH SOMEONE'S NAME ON IT. THE LAW USUALLY HAS NOT REAL EFFECT-- IT JUST MAKES THE DEMOCRATS FEELE GOOD. IN THIS CASE, BANNING CELL PHONES ON TEENAGERS ONLY IS DISCRIMINATORY AND HAS NO RATIONAL BASIS. I AGREE WITH SNIFFYER ON THAT. THIS JUST WEAKENS OUR SYSTEM OF LAW.


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Submitted by JeffC on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 2:14pm.

"DEMOCRATS WET THE BED, CRY ABOUT SOME TRAGEDY AND PASS A LAW WITH SOMEONE'S NAME ON IT. THE LAW USUALLY HAS NOT REAL EFFECT-- IT JUST MAKES THE DEMOCRATS FEEL GOOD."

Like all that Terri Schiavo stuff.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Mon, 11/24/2008 - 9:45pm.

Delphi Corp. has announced an agreement with in-car Internet provider Autonet Mobile to develop new platforms for Internet driven technology products. The technology, based on Autonet's network architecture, essentially turns vehicles into secure WiFi hotspots. Passengers would be connected while the vehicle is moving, allowing online access to weather reports or traffic conditions. As of mid-July, Delphi employed approximately 4,000 in Kokomo. The facilities specialize in automotive electronics.

I know it says passengers but what will prevent drivers from utilizing it?

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Submitted by Davids mom on Mon, 11/24/2008 - 8:48pm.

Is there a law in Geogia that only hands free phones can be used while driving?

Submitted by jmatute on Mon, 11/24/2008 - 7:18pm.

Why stop at users under the age of 18? Just because they cannot vote? There are plenty of reasons to ban cell phone use for all drivers. Many states have already done so. Can you just imagine trying to enforce this rule? How do you determine if a driver is under 18? You have to pull everyone over who looks young...and that could be anyone under 25....or 26...or a young-looking 30. Cell phone use while driving is not safe....in any state...on any road....under any condition. Make the law so that it applies to all drivers...period!

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Submitted by The 5-0 on Mon, 11/24/2008 - 5:50pm.

Hands-Free Phones shouldn't be allowed either.

It's the act of engaging in a conversation which distracts the driver the most. Texting is incredibly dangerous as well. I worked an accident where we proved that a girl was texting as she pulled out in front of a vehicle. She was completely oblivious to the other cars on the road!

I read a report from Georgia DOT which stated with some people, talking on the cell phone is as dangerous as driving while intoxicated.


Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 10:01am.

It's the act of engaging in a conversation which distracts the driver the most.

I agree - but do we need to 'outlaw' conversation while driving?

Submitted by wheeljc on Mon, 11/24/2008 - 5:29pm.

This will no doubt save many lives! Great work and initiative!!

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