PTC Briefs 102508

Fri, 10/24/2008 - 2:29pm
By: The Citizen

Sany donation

Sany Corporation, a company based in China that will locate its U.S. headquarters in Peachtree City, has donated $2,000 towards the city’s 50th anniversary celebration next year.

The donation was announced last week by city officials.

Mayor Harold Logsdon said he wanted to thank Sany for the company’s generosity.

“We thank Sany and know they’re going to be a great corporate citizen,” Logsdon said.

Recycling bins in use

Keep Peachtree City Beautiful Inc. has acquired 10 recycling bins that will be used at special events such as last weekend’s PTC Classic Road Race.

The receptacles are designed to dispose of plastic bottles and aluminum cans.

Al Yougel, a resident helping spearhead the campaign, said that one third of all beverage containers are emptied outside the home.

Yougel also made his pitch for a recycling program for all Peachtree City residents. Currently city residents have to pay a fee each month to recycle if the company they use even offers the service, officials have reported.

Low speed study

Peachtree City officials are looking into state requirements for low speed motor vehicles, which are currently forbidden to cross state highways and city streets with speeds over 35 mph such as Peachtree Parkway.

At last week’s City Council meeting, resident George Allen said he’d like to be able to use a more direct route on his LSMV other than the golf cart path.

Low speed motor vehicles can travel faster than typical golf carts but they also have turn signals and seatbelts along with other safety devices. They are allowed to use the golf cart path system as long as they are operated on the lowest speed setting.

“When gas was $4 a gallon it was nice having an electric powered vehicle,” Allen said.

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Submitted by suhensl19 on Wed, 10/29/2008 - 9:58am.

To Cool Hand Luke... did you call Cardinal Saniation to see what their program offers or did you just go with the first line of research? You're right Cardinal does not separate the recycling at the transfer station. That's because they have already removed the recycling from a different part of the truck and separated it out at their yard where they have a bank of 4 or 5 larger bins and on some of the routes they have a truck for recycling only. If you look on their website,, you can see a picture of the bins. They do not take the recycling to the transfer station. The drivers know the customers are watching them to make sure the recycling is separate from the trash, so they are not going to risk their jobs by not following company policy. Also, the customer has a choice of a bin or a larger can to fit all their recycling. And yes, there is no extra charge for recycling. I also know they were very instrumental in helping Turin set up it's recycling program. So rather than manipulate the information from the transfer station to say Cardinal is not telling the truth about it's recycling, you might want to check more than one source.

Submitted by Coolhand Luke on Wed, 10/29/2008 - 11:43am.

I really don't want to argue. So this will be my last response. But I watched them throw the recycles away from my home. So I inquired and was feed the same line you just quoted.

Don't just blindly believe that they can pick up the recycles and garbage with the same truck and then sort later; that is not how their trucks work. If it were that simple every hauler in America would do this. I promise you they are throwing it away. I will give you the fact that they are recyling in Turin. But that is the only place; and because of that they thought it gives them credibility. Heck if you watch the WM commercials they advertise producing energy in America; but they don't recycle in Georgia (at least not were I previously lived). Back to Cardinal; every where else they pick up they are throwing it away.

Call the recycle centers yourself; where they supposedly take the commodities. They will tell you they don't know who cardinal sanitation is. (I did call the one cardinal gave me put the amount of recycling they said cardinal brings to them is probably not enough for 50 houses a week for their whole company)

Don't just blindly believe what is on their website, what they tell you, or what you read. Just investigate it yourself (if you want to take the time; and believe me that is what they are banking on). Again, don't just "believe" the drivers and putting the garbage and recycle on the same truck and then seperating at their yard and then going to the transfer station. They just dont have trucks that operate that way. The trucks only have one place to store comodities and that is in the hull of the truck. And the only place to open this up legally is a transfer station.

I am on your side though. I, like you, am a resident that cares about recycling. However, I don't want to waste my time. I don't like being told that they were going to recycle and come to find out they are chunking everything. It is not right. We, the citizens in PTC, work hard to recyle and for the most part care about recycling. But we should have it done right. Not treated this way.

So, I respect what you are saying. But I have investigated this further than just calling the transfer. I just couldn't believe that they would do this.

I imagine as more and more people find them out for scammers; there will probably be some investigative journalism going on. Until then it is the recycle centers, knowledge of how a garbage truck works, eye witness accounts, speculation, etc. etc. all versus them telling us to just believe them.

But again. I want us both to have legitamte recycling options. Honest and true programs that indeed represent recycling properly, are transparent, and watched to know that when we take the time to save our planet; that indeed it will be done.

Best of luck to you. Happy Recycling.

Submitted by Coolhand Luke on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 9:41am.

Just so all of you know. Cardinal Sanitation is not telling the truth when they tell you they recycle. They are throwing your recycles in the trash truck. They try to tell you that they seperate the recycles at the transfer station.

However, if you call the transfer station, where they go to dump the trash, the transfer station will tell you; Cardinal cannot seperate the recycles. That means the hardwork you did to seperate and store your recycled material just gets trashed. And they do this so deceitfuly. So great they give you a bin. But getting a nice bin doesn't matter if they just throw your recycles away.

Nothing is free!!! And Cardinal is taking advantage of the citizens of fayette county. They will be caught at one point and this will come back to haunt them.

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Wed, 10/29/2008 - 11:26am.

Cardinal pays to dispose of municipal solid waste in landfills. Their incentive to recover materials is to lower the number of tons sent to landfill. If the costs of segregated collection and processing plus the value of the materials sold isn't greater than the savings on disposal, they shouldn't be in the residential recycling game.

Is Cardinal using two compartment trucks? I've only seen what appar to be single compartment RELs. A two compartment truck will keep materials segregated. Although from what you describe, it sounds like they're running a "dirty MRF" -- and a dirty MRF isn't dependant on source seperation at all.

Segregated collection and the associated costs have been the biggest problem in residential recycling. I've purchased materials from Cardinal in the past, so they're recovering and selling something.

Call and ask if they're using a two compartment truck and, if not, then ask why you should source seperate for what appears to be a dirty MRF.

Submitted by Coolhand Luke on Wed, 10/29/2008 - 11:45am.

You are correct about the two compartment trucks. I checked and they have single compartment trucks that they buy extremely used from Dekalb county after the county has used them up completely.

Also, they do not have any permits for a transfer, dirty mrf, or mrf. And there is not a dirty mrf in our area to take it too. So they are not doing that either.

But again thanks

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Submitted by ptctaxpayer on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 6:59pm.

That's it? Two grand. Wow, you guys are sports.

They poured way more than that for Harold in China with the endless bottled beer.

We taxpayers, though, get the short end of the stick.

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 7:20pm.

I want to thank you for your donation. $2000.00 probably doubled the celebration fund.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."

Submitted by suhensl19 on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 3:00pm.

Mr. Yougel might want to double check his facts. Cardinal Sanitation offers free recycling with their trash service. There is no extra fee and they even offer a choice of a bin or a can with wheels to recycle with.

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Submitted by John Munford on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 7:55pm.

If incorrect, the error is mine, as I was relying on information provided from the city several months ago.

I don't believe Cardinal Sanitation has been mentioned but I could be wrong.

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