BoE mulls school cost cuts

Tue, 10/21/2008 - 3:51pm
By: Ben Nelms

Implement a four-day school week. Raise student-teacher ratios to the state limit. Reduce pay for high school sports programs. Keep a new elementary school empty. Stop buying new computers and school buses for a year.

These were among the cost-cutting suggestions given Monday night to the Fayette County Board of Education by its Cost Cutting Committee. Facing a shortfall in state funding, a squeeze on local tax revenue and an uncertain outcome on a Nov. 4 education sales tax vote, the board approved only two small measures immediately.

Recommendations were placed in three categories and, excluding ongoing staff cuts through attrition, totaled a minimum of $750,000 in easily recognizable cost-saving proposals.

But it was the suggestions with no fixed cost savings that were the most eye-opening. School board members Monday night agreed to a first step by going ahead with energy-saving measures and minimizing overtime by the use of compensatory time.

Made up of 16 school system staff and administrators, the Cost Cutting Committee’s Category 3 recommendations listed big ticket items that can be reduced by attrition beginning in the 2009-2010 school year.

One idea — to cut benefits of all system employees — was downplayed even by the committee that put it on the table.

The first of the 21 recommendations was to delay the opening of Rivers Elementary if the school system cannot afford to staff it.

Another idea was to increase the student/teacher ratio to the upper limits of the state requirement. Underlying that proposal is that more students per classroom mean fewer teachers overall.

Still others recommended reviewing the viability of 235-day contracts to replace the current 240-day contracts; reducing the paraprofessional contracts from 185 days to 180 days (a savings of $50,000); suspending the 10-year Facility Plan renovations for a year; suspending computer purchases for a year; suspending the purchase of new buses for a year; consider a four-day work week for students and teachers and reducing high school athletics and coaching supplements.

Other Category 3 recommendations included allotting one media specialist per middle and high school; reviewing counselor allotments and reduce if possible; and reduce physical education positions to one at each elementary school.

Board members said they will consider the recommendations.

The first category, common sense ideas the committee said could be implemented immediately, included 32 recommendations. By far the great cost-saver would involve raising the thermostat on air conditioning systems 2-4 degrees and lowering thermostats in the winter by 2-4 degrees. Gyms’ temperatures would be raised 4-6 degrees for air conditioning and lowered 4-6 degrees for heating. This measure would save approximately $300,000, the committee said.

Cost Cutting Committee member Sam Sweat agreed with board members that school principals should be enlisted to identify and implement a range of Category 1 items relating to energy-saving measures specific to their schools. The energy-saving measures alone would likely account for at least one-third of the $1 million budget savings said by Comptroller Laura Brock to be needed during the current school year.

Other Category 1 ideas included removing the grass-cutting supplement and having custodians cut grass in the summer, a savings of $10,000; cut back 10 percent on athletic and academic field trips for a saving of $20,000; implement a four-day work week during the summer to save $40,000 ($20,000 in each fiscal year); reduce video outsourcing in Public Relations and purchase in-house equipment to save $25,000; eliminate color copying at central office ($3,000); use Open Office rather than Microsoft Office ($3,000); require food services to pay for commodity hauling ($12,000); require individuals to pay for background checks ($5,000); require administrative fees/dues to be paid by individuals ($15,000); and close the school system during the week of July 4, spring break, winter break and Christmas ($40,000).

The recommendations for category 1 items for which a price could be fixed totaled $453,000.

Other category 1 ideas carrying an undetermined monetary saving included proposals such as turning off lights when not in a classroom or office, evaluate rental fees of facilities, email the “By the Way” newsletter, educate teachers on the cost of substitutes, apply copy limits for staff in all schools, downsize secretarial staff in Human Resources, Operations and Instruction areas where feasible, use email instead of paper copies when possible, combine secretarial and clerical staff when possible at central office and Lafayette Education Center, recycle applicable materials at the various sites and remove all small appliances from classrooms and offices.

Category 2 recommendations contained six big ticket items that could be reduced immediately for an approximate savings of at least $300,000. Those included (1) eliminate positions when possible and hire based on the superintendent’s review with Human Resources, (2) minimize overtime and encourage use of comp time if overtime is needed, (3) return 1,875 leased computers in December for a savings of $300,000, (4) do not purchase text books unless students are without, (5) relax the policy on comp time and (6) reduce benefits.

The committee said a majority of members did not want benefits cut. The committee said it was in the best interest of the school system to avoid benefit cuts during the current school year, noting that the budget will be revisited after the Nov. 4 SPLOST vote.

A lengthy discussion of the each category’s recommendations ensued, though the energy-saving measures and the comp time issue were the only ones at Monday’s meeting to gain immediate approval to implement.

A complete list of recommendations is on the school system website under the Oct. 20 board documents section at www.fcboe.org.

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Submitted by suggarfoot on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 8:45pm.

Stop developer friendly doings! How do you think these 1st graders are going to feel getting on a buss and riding MILES to a very LARGE elementary school in the middle of no where.

I bet Smola and Smith will close more small elementary schools to fill their big white elephants! But I guess it is just expected that the kids will have to put up with this to put a grinn on the developers faces!


Submitted by Who knows on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 3:35pm.

Some of FCBOE principals make very good money each year and should be held accountable for their own schools spending and budgets. A local high school a few years back had over 2200 students, now there is just 1500, so why is there still 4 assistant principals? Surely some auditor pointed this out at sometime. A secretary ordered a new office chair for several hundred dollars, who okayed that purchase? If there was a medical reason, why not let the doctor order it and let insurance pay for it, not the school. When school stores make approximately $60,000-70,000.00 a year why can't that money go towards something needed not extras? Who decides on the extras? Parking permits for students cars and golfcarts average $40.00 a year, where does that cash go? Maybe schools don't need fulltime copy makers/parapros. Who decides when teachers only teach 2 or 3 classes a day, but still recieve fulltime pay and sometimes extended pay? Lets take a hard look at athletics and other functions that require extended bus travel. I would think the bus drivers would rather have benefits, instead of the sometime extra fees. It would be a shame for the county to cut teachers,the arts or athletic programs, when some serious looks at the accounting books could probably save the schools some serious money. Most departments have refigerators and/or microwaves, so why do teachers need them in their classrooms? What a waste of energy? There again the Principals should be held accountable. Granted you should always start at the top where the most money is spent, but at the number of schools we have here in Fayette County, every little bit could mean a good amount and save some jobs. I think for the most part FCBOE does a great job, but times are changing for everyone, so we need more frugal leaders.

Submitted by Arf on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 10:00am.

This is the type of information that people have been asking for from the FCBOE. Rework the budget, look at cost cutting possibilities, tell us what’s working and what’s just costing. Justify the SPLOST and explain why it is necessary instead of just putting it out there and “marketing” it by saying that it’s necessary for the good of the students. The rank and file voters, who pay the $$$ for these programs have been lied to, cheated upon and stolen from, all the way from the top to our own backyard. We elected and trusted leaders, nationally and locally who have worked very hard to destroy our lives while they pad their pockets. My retirement plans are a wreck, my budget is being squeezed, my job is in jeopardy and my house, car and everything else is now on the line. Anyone who wants to get into MY pocket from this point on is going to have to justify it and be accountable.

If this cost-cutting committee has been active for a long time, or if anyone at FCBOE is paying attention to the financial considerations, other than buying land to build schools where nobody lives (but…build it and they will come – especially when some self-serving builder agrees to develop the surrounds), then why haven’t they publicized the NEED for a SPLOST instead of vaguely promoting the WANT for one?

I passionately support quality education in Fayette County, but I cannot support giving hand-outs to people who are weak, extravagant, or selfish stewards.

Submitted by Arf on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 9:25am.

Published: 10/22/08, 7:46 AM EDT
By JESSICA MINTZ
SEATTLE (AP) - Sales of personal computers didn't live up to expectations over the summer, and now analysts predict shoppers will cut spending even more drastically in the all-important holiday quarter.

So far, PC prices appear to be holding steady. But buyers may get better deals soon as computer companies try to avoid getting stuck with a pile of unsold inventory on Dec. 31.

Analyst Roger Kay of Endpoint Technologies said the unofficial start date for holiday PC promotions has crept earlier in recent years. This year, Kay said, computer makers are feeling panicky and wondering if they'll even make it through October without slashing prices.

"People with a lot of money are still going to come out and buy whatever they want," Kay said. "But there's a whole big pack of folks in the middle that are going to be looking at trade-offs."

Submitted by Tombo100 on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 8:27am.

The quickest way to save money for the schools is to cut the administrative head count. I bet teachers at the individual schools would love it, free them up to do some real teaching and remove the bureaucratic dead weight.

I bet the teachers would be willing to chip in and do a little bit extra work to fill in the gaps. But the Overlords in FCBOE would never go for that. It is easier to trick the taxpayers out of more money.

Submitted by notjustcomplaining on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 7:47am.

I read with interest the ideas for reduction in spending at the FCBOE. My question is......why now? Why not in the Spring when the easily-predicted budget cuts from the State level came down? Why not propose these cuts to the public then, so that they could see that all reasonable avenues were exhausted BEFORE BEFORE BEFORE a millage rate increase was approved and a SPLOST was put on the ballot....

Fayette County - - - isn't this timing a little off? Even if you never step into a BOE meeting, you should see that these "stewards" of your money are more than a little light in the fiscal management department....

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Submitted by suggarfoot on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 8:30pm.

and I know that Dr Todd had a list of things that he wanted to be considered months ago and Smola dismissed that...Yes, they may have some committee, but we haven't heard a peep about it untill it looks like Smola is gonna get her ears pinned back by Nicole File!

Seeing Nicole and her ideas, were like a breath of fresh air.

Smola was in sharp contrast, dull, arrogant, and as always a braggart. But, to most of us who are use to the condescending manner, there seemed a glimmer of fear.


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Submitted by The Crime Dog on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 7:50am.

If you knew anything about BOE ... Suggarfoot ... then you ... would ... know!

But you're just a casual critic, so I'll go back to ignoring your continuous drivel now. Thanks!


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Submitted by The 5-0 on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 7:17am.

Some schools in Fayette and surrounding counties have more than two computers per classroom! My friend teaches Kindergarten and they have two new desktops that go unused and the teachers are given a laptop to take home. They keep the units for a few years then someone comes during the summer break to replace their models for newer versions!

Don't get me wrong, I think training our children on how to use a computer is great; but should each classroom have this many if the school possesses computer labs?!

Computers are incredibly expensive (even when being purchased in bulk). I would think that reducing the numbers of computers would be a quick and effective way to cut the waste going on in our school systems.


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Submitted by The Crime Dog on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 7:48am.

Computers are also used to educate the students in other ways, exposing them to topics covered in class.

I'm glad my first grader is exposed to computers as another effective avenue to teach. He also takes accelerated reader tests on his classroom computer which encourages him to read more.

My son's computer skills are learned in a separate computer lab that the entire school shares.

Remember 5-0 that today's child is inundated at home with cable TV and video games, so having a computer as a learning aid in the classroom is only a plus! It's part of this generation whether we like it or not.


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Submitted by The 5-0 on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 8:11am.

I think computers are valuable teaching aids (I personally think typing is more important in this age than learning to write in cursive).

But...

We shouldn't rely on computers too much.
Why take a reader test on a computer when pencil and paper would suffice? If you want to prepare them for the future, slap a Scantron form on their desk. That's virtually all that high schools and colleges use (outside of fill-in-the-blank and short essay segments of tests).

P.S.- Cutting back on computers probably wouldn't effect the budget too much since the lottery supplies many of them. I forgot about that until after I had posted.


Submitted by PS1441 on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 9:17pm.

One of my clients, a private school in Columbus, has light switches with motion sensors on them. No motion in the room, lights go off. Saves them thousands of dollars each year on a single campus.

Submitted by Citizen_Steve on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 8:58pm.

The complete list of cost-cutting suggestions is here, https://eboard.eboardsolutions.com/meetings/Attachment.aspx?S=4067&AID=155709
I believe the 4-day week is for summer employees. Not sure if it'd generate any significant ideas, but I suggest we ask students to suggest cost cutting measures as well... perhaps an essay contest. I never underestimate the power of brainstorming.

Cutting benefits for our educators should be the absolute last resort. You may not know, we are getting off kind of cheap compared to the rest of the nation. Take a look at the national report for 2006, http://www.census.gov/govs/www/school06.html (pg xii). Compare that with the FCBOE report, http://www.fcboe.org./finance/docs/05-06financialsummary.pdf.

Steve

Submitted by fluffybear on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 8:28pm.

Maybe I am not understanding this one.

Kids must attend a minimum of 180 days? If we go to a 4 day school week, won't that result in the school year being extended by 8+ weeks?
How are we saving any money there?

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Submitted by chippie on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 6:53am.

I've been told there are already some school systems in Georgia utilizing the 4-day school week, due to the cost of fuel.

I'd love to see it tried in Fayette County for a year. I've thought about FC going to a Tuesday through Friday week - this wouldn't interfere with middle and high school football game schedules which are usually played on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays. In addition to the fact Mondays are used to recognize Federal holidays, so this schedule would fall in line with those holidays.

I do agree that decreasing employee benefits should be the very last thing to do try in cutting costs.


Submitted by fluffybear on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 8:57pm.

I have it figured out that going to a 4-day week would involve increasing the school day by 1.5 hours a day. I would be willing to support something like this.
I do see though how this additional time could hamper involvement in after school programs.

Submitted by hsh87 on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 10:17am.

I'm not sure fuel is actually a concern, though it should be - not sure about buses for students very close to some schools(within walking distance) but there are buses going miles out the way to pick up students that a bus traveling the same direction could stop and pick up and save fuel as well as overtime - some driver's aren't concerned with the fact they could help save on fuel by picking these students up, they don't pay Fayette county taxes anyway.

Submitted by fluffybear on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 9:06pm.

I see buses leave the school yard which are no more then half full. Let's reconfigure the routes so that we can fill up these buses.

IS there a reason why older children (Jr. High & High) can not have a a set locations for pick-up rather then having buses cruise through development and down our streets just so we can pick up a child near their home? When I was young, I rode the school bus and no one picked me up outside my house or at the end of my street! I had to walk almost a mile to a stop. The kids are all going to the same school so why not have the bus just make one stop in a general area and pick the entire bus load at one time?

Submitted by winer on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 9:15am.

leave the middle and high schools. The routes and pick up locations should be re-evaluated from time to time. But when you see a bus leave the high or middle school at 3:30 and it is only half full, it is because it is the first load.

Half of the buses start at either the high school or the middle school. They are the first load, then they go to the other school to pick up the rest of the kids from a particular route. So the full load is after that second pick-up around 3:45. Pick up and drop off from "paired" schools at the same complex probably go faster than the Booth/McIntosh or Fayette High.

More middle school kids from a route would ride the bus, especially in the afternoon, than high school. On a typical day, ridership is higher in the morning than in the afternoon due to after-school activities, and that affects more HS than middle school age.

While you may be annoyed at the bus coming into a subdivision, the drivers on the main thoroughfares appreciate the buses not stopping traffic in both directions. It is often safer for loading and unloading if it is done on the secondary streets.

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Submitted by The Wedge on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 9:19pm.

In order to do this, the state would have to convert the 180 days into hours. Then they would craft the schedule so that the same amount of hours would be covered in 4 days as they were in five. In effect, as industry does it, going from an 8 hour 5 day a week shift to a 10 hour 4 day one. It would involve changing the law to allow districts to covert the days into hours for this purpose. They explained it in the open forum a couple of weeks ago that very few people bothered to attend.


Submitted by PS1441 on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 9:15pm.

The local board can petition the State BoE to waive the 180 day requirement for various reasons. I think it was coweta that requested it due to fuel costs. Same applies for times of natural disasters and/or weather.

Submitted by notjustcomplaining on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 6:56pm.

I have been unable to attend school board meetings since the price of Pepto-Bismol increased. I heard from a respected facility member that Lee Wright a school board member wanted to threaten Dell computers with bad publicity in order to blackmail them into donating 6 months of free computer usage in order to aid the school system in its cutbacks. Can someone tell Mr. Wright that Dell is a for-profit company responsible to its shareholders and not a government agency?

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Submitted by The Crime Dog on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 7:51am.

So you're in favor of taxpayers getting MILKED for six-year-old computers???

Give me a break! Dell isn't going to do anything but recycle those machines because they're older than dirt.

Hooray for Lee Wright for applying some leverage to nibble down the budget. If all our board members would do that with some vendors we could perhaps have some real savings!


Submitted by Citizen_Steve on Tue, 10/21/2008 - 8:28pm.

I didn't attend either so I cannot characterize any comments made at the meeting but playing hardball with vendors to cut costs can be extremely effective. I wouldn't hesitate to include shrewd negotiations with Dell.

Submitted by notjustcomplaining on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 7:24am.

I'm all for hard-ball negotiations!
The suggestion to coerce a for-profit
company into cost-cuts by getting the
media involved simply shows how ill-suited
Mr. Wright is for this job!

Submitted by Next_ on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 7:18am.

Why do we bus kids in area's that ajoin the school. We do we even OFFER a bus? Let kids walk to school or hey maybe ride a bike. Stop buying buses and use those we currently have for those who truely need a bus. To many lazy kids/parents.

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Submitted by The Wedge on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 8:15am.

PTCDiver,

The schools are following state rules around busing and walking. And remember, just because the elementary is next to your subdivision and the kids walk to it, the middle school is too far away and the state mandates busing for those students. And do you really want a bunch of elementary school bicyclists to cross the busy Robinson Road, or McIntosh Trail? I have enough trouble with adult bicyclists violating the laws of the road, do we want to throw school age commuters into the mix?


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Submitted by The 5-0 on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 7:38am.

A lot of parents are afraid that their children might get hit by a car walking to school (we're hardly a rural community anymore) or they're worried about sexual predators abducting their kids.


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